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| xgerman_ | o/ | 14:00 |
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| yushiro | Hi fwaas folks :) | 14:00 |
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| SridarK | Hi FWaaS folks | 14:00 |
| njohnston | hi all | 14:00 |
| SridarK | njohnston: hi | 14:01 |
| yushiro | #startmeeting fwaas | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 7 14:01:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yushiro. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: fwaas)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fwaas' | 14:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 14:01 |
| yushiro | #chair SridarK xgerman_ yushiro | 14:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: SridarK xgerman_ yushiro | 14:02 |
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| SridarK | yushiro: xgerman_ can one of u run todays mtg | 14:02 |
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| amotoki | hi | 14:02 |
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| xgerman_ | sure | 14:02 |
| SridarK | i will need to step away soon as family member health issue | 14:02 |
| SridarK | so on PTO today | 14:02 |
| xgerman_ | ok | 14:02 |
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| xgerman_ | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| SridarK | i will hang around for a few mins | 14:03 |
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| njohnston | SridarK: hope everything goes well | 14:03 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:03 |
| SridarK | njohnston: thx | 14:03 |
| amotoki | SridarK: take care of your family! | 14:03 |
| yushiro | SridarK, Oh, boy. I wish your family's condition would be better. | 14:03 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:03 |
| SridarK | thx all | 14:03 |
| annp_ | +1 | 14:03 |
| xgerman_ | They are merging PTG and summit again | 14:04 |
| SridarK | +1 | 14:04 |
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| SridarK | will make things on budget issues easier on our employers | 14:04 |
| SridarK | going to 4 events in a year has been a challenge | 14:05 |
| * njohnston realizes he has to catch up on his openstack-dev mail | 14:05 | |
| xgerman_ | yeah, that | 14:06 |
| xgerman_ | s the intent + many are also attending kubecon | 14:06 |
| amotoki | xgerman_: I think it is not a decision yet... while there are various discussions | 14:06 |
| yushiro | yeah. And next next summit will be in Denver? At that time, PTG and summit will be combined or not.. | 14:06 |
| xgerman_ | yes, it’s Denver twice | 14:07 |
| yushiro | amotoki, yes | 14:07 |
| amotoki | yushiro: PTG is in Sep and summit is in Apr 2019 | 14:07 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:07 |
| yushiro | amotoki, Thanks | 14:07 |
| annp__ | +1 | 14:07 |
| amotoki | I visitied the convention center at the last PTG. The big blue bear is nice :) | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | Denver is happening for sure | 14:08 |
| njohnston | I assume Berlin is still happening as well in Nov? | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | It is the PTG's after Denver that might nort happen | 14:08 |
| mlavalle | Yes, Berlin is happening | 14:08 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:08 |
| amotoki | CFP for Berlin is open now | 14:09 |
| xgerman_ | gotta come up with something | 14:09 |
| SridarK | +1 | 14:09 |
| yushiro | Aha, CFP! | 14:09 |
| * mlavalle would like to discuss one point in the Open Agenda section of the meeting | 14:10 | |
| xgerman_ | k | 14:10 |
| xgerman_ | R-2 is this week | 14:10 |
| xgerman_ | https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 14:10 |
| amotoki | let's move on | 14:10 |
| SridarK | xgerman_: one other quick note | 14:10 |
| amotoki | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572666/ is a patch of Rocky-2 deliverables | 14:11 |
| SridarK | reached out to chandan - He and Sarath will join next week so we can get updates on Horizon | 14:11 |
| xgerman_ | sweet | 14:11 |
| SridarK | they are tied up on internal release | 14:11 |
| yushiro | +1 +1 :) | 14:11 |
| xgerman_ | #topic Rocky | 14:13 |
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| xgerman_ | We need to fast track | 14:13 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571331/ | 14:13 |
| xgerman_ | I think client freezes before everyhting else | 14:14 |
| xgerman_ | and do we have more client changes? | 14:14 |
| amotoki | xgerman_: the client freeze happens at the same time as for the server side. | 14:14 |
| xgerman_ | yeah, but release is a week befire RC | 14:15 |
| amotoki | that's true. | 14:15 |
| xgerman_ | so we have with client until 7/23 but server 8/6 | 14:15 |
| xgerman_ | just putting it on the front burner and if there are more client changes needed we should get the patches in sooner | 14:16 |
| yushiro | xgerman_, Currently, there is no more patch for client except 'remote_group_id' work. | 14:16 |
| xgerman_ | yes, I think address group isn’t ready? | 14:17 |
| yushiro | xgerman_, Ah, no. I think it's not ready. | 14:17 |
| amotoki | honestly it would be nice if you include more information which explains feature dependency in the server side (in the client patch) | 14:18 |
| amotoki | it is sometime difficult to track the dependencies during client reviews. | 14:19 |
| xgerman_ | ok, will add a depends-on… it’s my first client patch in a long while | 14:20 |
| amotoki | xgerman_: is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/571331/ ready in the server side or is there any dependency? | 14:20 |
| yushiro | amotoki, +1 Adding 'Depends-On' topic is more easier to track. | 14:20 |
| amotoki | plus blueprint or bug links would be helpful | 14:20 |
| xgerman_ | amotoki: the plugin works — just need to get the driver going | 14:20 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521207/ | 14:21 |
| xgerman_ | driver | 14:21 |
| amotoki | I think we can evaluate the progress around R-3 if the feature has not completed then | 14:21 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564888/ | 14:21 |
| xgerman_ | amotoki: +1 | 14:21 |
| amotoki | if it is highly possible to land in RC phase, we can land a client patch if an API/DB patch has landed. | 14:22 |
| xgerman_ | yeah, DB/API are done | 14:22 |
| amotoki | my understanding is same. I hope the driver stuff lands soon :) | 14:23 |
| annp__ | +1 | 14:23 |
| xgerman_ | :-) | 14:23 |
| yushiro | +1 | 14:23 |
| njohnston | +1 | 14:23 |
| xgerman_ | ok, logging — is this still landing in R? | 14:24 |
| xgerman_ | spec | 14:24 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509725/ | 14:24 |
| xgerman_ | the spec is merged — will we get the implementation? | 14:24 |
| yushiro | Yes, I think it is possible to landing in R with L3 side. | 14:24 |
| xgerman_ | great | 14:25 |
| annp__ | yushiro, +1 | 14:25 |
| yushiro | s/landing/land | 14:25 |
| amotoki | the spec covers both L2 and L3 side. L3 side only? | 14:25 |
| yushiro | amotoki, Spec covers both L2 and L3. In this cycle, we're trying to support L3 logging(FWG on router) only. And L2 will be added in Stein. | 14:27 |
| annp__ | yushiro, +1 | 14:27 |
| amotoki | yushiro: okay, so should https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/extend-logging-to-fwassv2.0 be targeted to Stein? | 14:28 |
| amotoki | this is just a question from the project management perspective. | 14:28 |
| yushiro | amotoki, Ah, yes. You're right. | 14:29 |
| amotoki | thanks. there is nothing to block to land L3 stuff in Rokcy :) | 14:29 |
| yushiro | Yas | 14:30 |
| annp__ | amotoki, yeah. thanks. | 14:30 |
| yushiro | oops, sorry. It is mixed 'Ya' and 'Yes' | 14:30 |
| amotoki | seems a new version of 'yes' :) | 14:30 |
| yushiro | Haha | 14:30 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/557137 | 14:32 |
| xgerman_ | that’s the address group sepc | 14:32 |
| wkite | I am confused about the l2 drivers without iptables. | 14:33 |
| xgerman_ | l2 is ovs | 14:33 |
| yushiro | +1 | 14:33 |
| wkite | by odl rules? | 14:34 |
| xgerman_ | neutron migrated fro linux bridge -> ovs and we only made an ovs version | 14:34 |
| yushiro | wkite, by OVS flow rules | 14:34 |
| wkite | i see | 14:34 |
| wkite | I have been very busy recently, so I have no time to study this. | 14:35 |
| xgerman_ | ok, I think we need to merge the spec first — is there a deadline we need to hit so we cna think Rocky or would it better to defer that feature to Stein-1? | 14:36 |
| yushiro | wkite, annp__, and chandan are good teacher about that :) | 14:36 |
| xgerman_ | aka is there a spec freeze for neutron? | 14:36 |
| * xgerman_ will need their help, too | 14:37 | |
| annp__ | yushiro, :) | 14:37 |
| wkite | yushiro thx for remind | 14:37 |
| yushiro | wkite, I was busy too. I'm sorry I couldn't review your SPEC. But I will do it!! | 14:37 |
| annp__ | wkite, If you need some help free feel reach out me :) | 14:37 |
| yushiro | annp__, +1 | 14:38 |
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| wkite | annp__: thank you | 14:38 |
| annp__ | wkite, you're welcome. :) | 14:39 |
| xgerman_ | amotoki: do we have a neutron spec freeze? | 14:40 |
| amotoki | xgerman_: there is no deadline for specs. doublle-checking to mlavalle | 14:40 |
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| mlavalle | no deadline | 14:41 |
| amotoki | we have only feature freeze as usual | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | yes | 14:41 |
| yushiro | Thanks | 14:41 |
| mlavalle | but we process specs as they come | 14:41 |
| xgerman_ | ok | 14:41 |
| xgerman_ | so I think address group is very ambitious for R — but we will see… | 14:42 |
| xgerman_ | I think that’s all we have in flight — | 14:42 |
| wkite | xgerman_: The time of Rocky is a little short. | 14:43 |
| xgerman_ | reminder for the cores: reviews, reviews, reviews | 14:43 |
| yushiro | xgerman_, Nice reminder!! | 14:43 |
| SridarK | For AG - even if we can start the implementation in R - that is good | 14:43 |
| xgerman_ | wkite: yep, I think so, too - Stein is more realistic | 14:43 |
| SridarK | xgerman_: +1 | 14:43 |
| xgerman_ | SridarK: +1000 | 14:43 |
| wkite | xgerman_: +1 | 14:44 |
| xgerman_ | #topic Open Discussion | 14:44 |
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| xgerman_ | mlavalle: you have the floor (and I have something to go after) | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | Thanks! | 14:44 |
| mlavalle | Yesterday I sent this message to the ML: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131252.html | 14:45 |
| mlavalle | I am implementing multiple port bindings in Neutron. Port's port_binding in the DB model is becoming an iterable | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | and its name is changing to port_bindings | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | corresponding change to binding in the Port's OVO is happening | 14:46 |
| mlavalle | I did check with codesearch in FWaaS and thought there won't be impact | 14:47 |
| mlavalle | but I would like this team to double check | 14:47 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: +1 - I too think we are ok but need more thought | 14:47 |
| yushiro | mlavalle, Thanks for your information. | 14:47 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | I will hold the change until the end of next week | 14:48 |
| xgerman_ | that raises the sorry state of our tempest tests… | 14:48 |
| SridarK | But will be interesting to check out the live migration use cases at a broader level | 14:48 |
| SridarK | xgerman_: +1 | 14:48 |
| yushiro | SridarK, +1 | 14:48 |
| xgerman_ | +1 | 14:48 |
| amotoki | the easy way to check is to run neutron-fwaas with these patches :) | 14:48 |
| mlavalle | amotoki: would you ping the VPNaaS in your side of the world to warn them about this? | 14:49 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: I try them with vpnaas till the first half of next week | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | I also check their repo and think won't be impact | 14:49 |
| mlavalle | but it is good if you check | 14:50 |
| mlavalle | thanks | 14:50 |
| xgerman_ | ok, I have two more things | 14:50 |
| xgerman_ | for the L7 topic I found a new library nDPI | 14:50 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://github.com/ntop/nDPI | 14:51 |
| xgerman_ | and they have a list of protocols | 14:51 |
| SridarK | mlavalle: i guess for us to understand what happens to ovs fwaas rules on a port in a live migration scenario | 14:51 |
| xgerman_ | #link https://www.ntop.org/products/deep-packet-inspection/ndpi/ | 14:51 |
| xgerman_ | SridarK: yes, we need to test that and check what SG does | 14:52 |
| annp__ | xgeman_ +1 | 14:52 |
| SridarK | Since we are no different from SG | 14:53 |
| SridarK | on the ovs driver | 14:53 |
| annp__ | xgerman_, Thank you :) | 14:53 |
| yushiro | xgerman_, wow, great. I found the license of this code was LGPLv3. Hopefully there is no problem :p | 14:53 |
| amotoki | the first step is to check the port_binding does not break the current static setup. I think live migration support is the next step (if we have something to do) | 14:53 |
| amotoki | s/the port_binding/the port_binding stuffs/ | 14:54 |
| SridarK | amotoki: yes agreed | 14:54 |
| yushiro | In order to check fwaas behavior with 'port_bindings', should we apply https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567462 in neutron? | 14:55 |
| SridarK | Also, will talk more with Chandan and Sarath this week on Horizon so we can have a plan | 14:55 |
| yushiro | SridarK, +1 | 14:55 |
| SridarK | i think they shd be able to attend next week | 14:55 |
| xgerman_ | great | 14:56 |
| amotoki | mlavalle: could you confirm yushiro's question above? | 14:56 |
| mlavalle | yushiro: that would work | 14:57 |
| yushiro | mlavalle, Thanks. I see. | 14:57 |
| yushiro | mlavalle, BTW, I wanted to meet you in Vancouver !! ( I couldn't go there ) Stay tuned in Denver :) | 14:59 |
| mlavalle | looking forward to it! | 14:59 |
| yushiro | Yas! | 14:59 |
| yushiro | yes! | 14:59 |
| xgerman_ | ok, I have to got to another meeting | 15:00 |
| xgerman_ | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2018/fwaas.2018-06-07-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2018/fwaas.2018-06-07-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fwaas/2018/fwaas.2018-06-07-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
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| doude | sorry I missed last meetings | 15:01 |
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