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| amotoki | asettle: how do we move forward the pdf community goal? | 13:52 |
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| amotoki | asettle: During I tried neutron and horizon, I see not a small number of things common to all projects (TOC, invalid links to config/policy sample files, PDF download link in HTML? and so on) | 13:52 |
| asettle | Hey amotoki | 13:52 |
| amotoki | asettle: I cannot tackle all of them. I believe we need a common place to keep knowledges and practices somewhere like etherpad. | 13:53 |
| amotoki | asettle: hi | 13:53 |
| asettle | I've just got back from vacation, so I'm still going through emails and catching up. | 13:53 |
| asettle | Etherpad might make sense. I had sort of envisioned that any issues could be included in the "test status" section of the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation#PDF_for_Project_Docs_-_Community_Goal | 13:54 |
| amotoki | asettle: hope you enjoyed your vacation :) | 13:54 |
| asettle | Maybe we can create etherpads to correspond to the project, and add them to this wiki | 13:54 |
| asettle | Then you can keep track of everything that's an issue | 13:54 |
| asettle | And work with your team to fix those | 13:54 |
| amotoki | asettle: yeah, makes sense. | 13:55 |
| asettle | Unless they are doc specific and you require intimidate sphinx knowledge, then a ping to stephenfin | 13:55 |
| asettle | Let me update the wiki with a new table, please create a etherpad and link :) | 13:55 |
| amotoki | I already covered several issues I hit in follow-up mails in the ML thread you started. | 13:56 |
| asettle | amotoki, thanks. I'll need to find that thread again and review: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation#PDF_for_Project_Docs_-_Community_Goal | 13:56 |
| asettle | here's the update to the wiki | 13:56 |
| asettle | Please add your tracking etherpad | 13:56 |
| amotoki | I would like to avoid sending same mails again and add them to etherpad/wiki | 13:57 |
| amotoki | I have no etherpad yet. you can create it | 13:57 |
| asettle | Yes understandable. I can update the thread? Would that be suitable? | 13:57 |
| asettle | amotoki, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pdf-goal-train-neutron | 13:57 |
| amotoki | asettle: thanks. let's add current known things. | 13:58 |
| asettle | If you could for neutron, thanks :) I'll send out an update to other now. | 13:59 |
| amotoki | asettle: the original ML thread is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-June/thread.html#7301 (in Jun) | 13:59 |
| amotoki | and I have one followup mail in Jul http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/007739.html | 13:59 |
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| amotoki | asettle: yes, I assigned me to neutron but neutron has many (over 10) repositories so we need to finish neutron repo soon. I am blocking other repos till the neutron PDF work finishes. | 14:01 |
| asettle | Understandable, thanks amotoki | 14:01 |
| asettle | Do you have help? | 14:01 |
| amotoki | asettle: I believe I can get help. once it lands, I can call for volunteers in the team. | 14:01 |
| asettle | That's good to hear, thank you | 14:01 |
| amotoki | asettle: anyway I will add topics/issues to the etherpad soon later. | 14:02 |
| asettle | Great thanks, amotoki :) | 14:06 |
| asettle | Thank you for bringing this up | 14:06 |
| asettle | Email sent, and hopefully this will be more helpful to collaborate | 14:06 |
| amotoki | asettle: thanks | 14:06 |
| stephenfin | asettle: fwiw, I've been looking at rst2pdf as an alternative to the latex builder. Unfortunately it lacks Python 3 support and I haven't had time to close that out | 14:17 |
| stephenfin | If I can get it working, I think we'd want to look at that route since it's pure Python with no need to learn the TeX toolchain | 14:17 |
| asettle | oh I see! Good to know. | 14:18 |
| asettle | Do we have a thread discussing this or IRC convo or just something you've decided to investigate? | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | But full steam ahead on LaTeX until then, because I don't know when I'll have time to finish this Python3 conversion. rst2pdf is _very_ crufty /o\ | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | Nah, not yet. Let me get it working under Py3 first | 14:18 |
| asettle | Crufty is good word there :p | 14:18 |
| asettle | Yeah fair :) | 14:18 |
| asettle | Thanks mate | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | After than, I'll start testing with nova or oslo | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | and then onto openstack-discuss | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | amotoki: Just FYI. Won't affect your work though ^ | 14:19 |
| amotoki | stephenfin: thanks for the info. let me check later. I am in a neutron-drivers meeting. | 14:20 |
| amotoki | stephenfin: rst2pdf is a good option. In either way, we need to explore how to handle relative links to sample config/policy files. | 14:45 |
| amotoki | stephenfin: this one and HTML specific contents like "Search page" are the only things I see in PDF doc in general. Other issues I hit are related to LaTeX. | 14:46 |
| amotoki | asettle: one more question. I see etherpad links per project in the wiki page. we also have a storyboard story per project. Per-project assignee is expected to maintain both? | 14:48 |
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| asettle | amotoki, depends on what you find more useful. If it's better to collaborate in either one, that is fine. But it provides an option. | 15:01 |
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| amotoki | asettle: okay. TC creates a storyboard story and you use wiki and etherpad for tracking..... I just wonder which page per-project assignee should care... | 15:03 |
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| amotoki | asettle: stephenfin: I added issues/practices I experienced to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pdf-goal-train-common-problems | 18:03 |
| amotoki | I believe they fit into this page. | 18:03 |
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