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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [www] Remove WIP note for pike deploy index https://review.openstack.org/512659 | 05:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update User Guides list https://review.openstack.org/513277 | 06:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update Admin Guides list https://review.openstack.org/513280 | 06:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update User Guides list https://review.openstack.org/513277 | 07:02 |
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| eumel8 | chason: just wondering. checkbuild failed in your second proposal | 07:43 |
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| chason | eumel8 Realy? I'm just back to my computer. :P | 09:13 |
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| eumel8 | hi chason :) | 09:15 |
| eumel8 | just reviewed roughly your proposals | 09:15 |
| chason | eumel8 hey o/ | 09:16 |
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| chason | eumel8 Thanks for your review. :D | 09:17 |
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| chason | eumel8 I got it, see http://logs.openstack.org/77/513277/2/check/build-tox-manuals-checkbuild/1aba8cf/job-output.txt.gz#_2017-10-19_07_13_22_562366 | 09:18 |
| eumel8 | maybe an additional variable check is required | 09:18 |
| eumel8 | in both | 09:18 |
| chason | I shoud change "for project in projects|sort(attribute='deployment'" to "for project in projects|sort(attribute='service"" | 09:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chason Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update User Guides list https://review.openstack.org/513277 | 09:22 |
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| eumel8 | if attribute='services' all time exists, yes | 09:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: highlight variables in sample links and paths https://review.openstack.org/513147 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: document has_deployment_guide flag https://review.openstack.org/513148 | 09:25 |
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| stephenfin | dhellmann: If I go to https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/flavors, things work. If I add a trailing '/', things do not work. Is that expected? | 13:13 |
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| dhellmann | stephenfin : flavors is a .rst file so I would expect you to need to add .html to the end and for a trailing slash to not work. I'm not sure why leaving off the .html works. | 13:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add more detail to template generator page https://review.openstack.org/513087 | 14:27 |
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| jungleboyj | pkovar: I have a conflict today so I won't be able to make the docs team meeting. | 14:43 |
| pkovar | jungleboyj: thanks for the info. if there's anything you want me to mention in the mtg, let me know | 14:47 |
| jungleboyj | I have gotten the Cinder docs moved to use 'Install Guide' instead of 'Install Tutorial'. | 14:48 |
| jungleboyj | We are making progress on the install guide testing. | 14:48 |
| jungleboyj | pkovar: ^ That is about it. | 14:48 |
| pkovar | jungleboyj: out of curiosity, do you track your progress somewhere? I'd like to update others at the summit forum about the progress people are making | 14:50 |
| jungleboyj | I haven't been. I probably should. | 14:50 |
| pkovar | (we also have https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/PikeDocTesting#Installation_Guide) | 14:50 |
| pkovar | feel free to use that page, if you like :) | 14:51 |
| jungleboyj | If you have that I can track there. | 14:51 |
| pkovar | jungleboyj: that would be great, thanks | 14:51 |
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| stephenfin | dhellmann: Ah, so we're not using the dirhtml builder? | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | stephenfin : I don't think so? | 14:58 |
| stephenfin | That makes sense. Wonder how the '.html' extensions are getting stripped off so. Presumably Apache rewriting on infra's side | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | stephenfin : no, on the server filesystem I definitely see a flavors.html | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | yeah, probably an extension | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | stephenfin : https://docs.openstack.org/infra/system-config/afs.html | 15:00 |
| stephenfin | dhellmann: Oh, is docs.o.o not served with Apache? | 15:02 |
| stephenfin | or am I misunderstanding something? | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | stephenfin : it is. those are instructions for setting up a client so you can look at the files. | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | you can connect as a read-only client to the afs filesystem used to hold the content | 15:02 |
| stephenfin | ahhhh - gotcha | 15:03 |
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| pkovar | all: docs meeting starts in ~ 12 mins | 15:48 |
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| pkovar | as always | 15:48 |
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| pkovar | #topic sitemap automation suggestions | 17:00 |
| pkovar | ;) | 17:00 |
| dhellmann | heh | 17:00 |
| dhellmann | I don't see mguiney or jamesmcarthur in channel, and it's lunchtime here | 17:01 |
| dhellmann | maybe this is a good ML topic | 17:01 |
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| mguiney | o/ | 17:02 |
| dhellmann | hi! | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | so, I was asking whether the current tool is the best tool to manage the sitemap files | 17:03 |
| dhellmann | one failing it has is that it requires manual review of the results (even if we automate submitting the patch) | 17:03 |
| mguiney | ahhhh | 17:04 |
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| mguiney | that is interesting, certainly. I somehow missed that it still requires actual manual patch review | 17:04 |
| dhellmann | so ideally we'd just have a sitemap file produced every time a doc build publishes content, without extra work | 17:04 |
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| dhellmann | right, today you run the tool by hand and then propose the patch by hand | 17:04 |
| * mguiney nods | 17:04 | |
| dhellmann | we could potentially automatically publish the results, I guess | 17:05 |
| mguiney | Ok. So maybe bypassing the patch process altogether would be a good idea, if we could find a way for it just to refresh based on a trigger | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | but why wait to generate the site map as a separate step? | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | if we use a sitemap index, we could have a separate sitemap file in each doc build | 17:05 |
| dhellmann | and that per-doc sitemap file could be generated by the publish job | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | it would only include the content for that job, but the index file would let the search engines put them all together | 17:06 |
| dhellmann | make sense? | 17:07 |
| jamesmcarthur | What's teh overhead look like to create a sitemap? | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | scraping the whole docs.o.o site takes ages. making a list of the files published in a given doc job is very fast. | 17:07 |
| dhellmann | a sitemap file can literally be a list of URLs. We can do that with a bash script. | 17:08 |
| mguiney | ^ that, of course was another one of the goals | 17:08 |
| mguiney | more targeted crawling = faster generation = more dynamic sitemaps | 17:08 |
| dhellmann | the index file needs to be XML, still, I think, but we can generate that with a template, too | 17:08 |
| jamesmcarthur | Yeah, so doing it on publication would make sense. We'd need a way to remove docs from the sitemap as well. | 17:09 |
| mguiney | scrapy, if we do continue using it, has a utility for that | 17:09 |
| dhellmann | we don't even need to crawl. a command like this would do it: find docs/build/html -name '*.html' | sed -e "s|^|$URL_PREFIX/|" | 17:09 |
| dhellmann | every time we publish, we generate a new sitemap for the subtree being published | 17:10 |
| mguiney | ah. right. sorry, this is something of a new domain, to me | 17:10 |
| dhellmann | then every time we publish from openstack-manuals, we generate a new sitemap index file | 17:10 |
| jamesmcarthur | dhellman - i like this plan | 17:10 |
| jamesmcarthur | sorry - i left off an n | 17:10 |
| dhellmann | maybe the next steps then are for mguiney to look at the sitemap format specs and make sure I'm not talking nonsense about what's possible and to look at the publishing jobs to see how those work so we can figure out where to add this new step. | 17:11 |
| dhellmann | I don't know what those jobs look like after the zuulv3 migration, so I'll need to come up to speed on those, too | 17:12 |
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| dhellmann | then we can start formulating a more detailed plan and write it up as a spec | 17:13 |
| mguiney | I can do that, cool! | 17:13 |
| dhellmann | excellent, thanks mguiney | 17:13 |
| dhellmann | I'm usually here in channel during us/eastern tz work hours, if I can help with pointers. | 17:14 |
| jamesmcarthur | thanks dhellmann! | 17:14 |
| mguiney | awesome. I may very well ping you with questions :) | 17:14 |
| dhellmann | I hope to have answers :-) | 17:14 |
| jamesmcarthur | thanks mguiney for working on this! I think it's going to be cool. | 17:16 |
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