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asettleMorning o/09:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: add has_in_tree_htaccess flag to template generator  https://review.openstack.org/48819009:32
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openstackgerritBernard Cafarelli proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: networking-sfc: set config reference flag  https://review.openstack.org/48954709:43
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chasonasettle: :P10:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: address comments in contributor docs  https://review.openstack.org/48928210:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: networking-sfc: set config reference flag  https://review.openstack.org/48954710:15
asettleHey Chason :)10:20
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chasonasettle: o/10:22
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openstackgerritGergely Csatari proposed openstack/installguide-cookiecutter master: Removal of installguide-cookiecutter  https://review.openstack.org/48958212:20
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openstackgerritGergely Csatari proposed openstack/installguide-cookiecutter master: Removal of installguide-cookiecutter  https://review.openstack.org/48958212:27
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csatariIs there a documented list of the programing languages OpenStack projects need to use? I'm interested if an Official OpenStack project can use Go or node.js.12:31
asettlecsatari: good question, I'm actually not sure12:37
asettledhellmann: do you know of anything? Do we have anything in governance?12:37
asettlecsatari: have you had a quick google?12:37
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csatariasettle: Yes, and I found this: https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20150901-programming-languages.html12:38
asettleHmmm12:39
asettleThat's all I can find too12:39
asettleOfficially, anyway12:39
asettleLots of blog posts?12:39
csatariHere Javascript is mentioned, but not node.js12:39
csatariAlso there are some resolutions about Go, like https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170329-golang-use-case.html12:40
asettlecsatari: maybe it's worth popping over to #openstack-dev and asking12:41
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csatariThierry is talking about the acceptance of Go here: https://youtu.be/V3pkJ-qA8JA?t=216212:53
csatariOkay, I will check this also on #poenstack-dev.12:54
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asettlecsatari: let me know what you find :)13:02
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mriedemdhellmann: what i'm reading in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487932/ just says, merge it and see if it works in prod, right?13:18
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csatariasettle>  okay13:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc master: Remove the redundant hyperlink  https://review.openstack.org/48912113:50
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dhellmannasettle , AJaeger: o/14:17
asettleMorning :)14:17
dhellmannmriedem : yeah, unfortunately14:18
dhellmannmriedem : we'd have to change the path used to publish in the test job, and then couldn't use anchored redirects, in order to test redirects in the gate14:18
dhellmannmriedem : if that works out, I'll propose a patch to remove the test item at the end of the file14:18
dhellmanncsatari, asettle : programming languages are covered by https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-language-requirements.html14:19
dhellmannand by https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/project-testing-interface.html14:19
dhellmannwe have defined policies for go, javascript, and python14:19
asettledhellmann: that does notttttt come up in a google search. Huh.Thanks14:19
dhellmannI don't know if node.js counts as a "language" per se14:20
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setuiddeveloping in it, certainly brings up colorful language ;)14:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/installguide-cookiecutter master: Removal of installguide-cookiecutter  https://review.openstack.org/48958214:39
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annegentledhellmann holla!14:55
dhellmannannegentle : hi!14:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: set has_in_tree_htaccess flag for nova  https://review.openstack.org/48940714:58
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mriedemdhellmann: any idea when something like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487932/ will refresh into prod docs?15:35
mriedemoh nvm, i see "             updated: 2017-08-01 14:12           "15:36
mriedemand it works! https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/cells.html15:36
dhellmann\o/15:36
asettle\o/15:36
dhellmannasettle : I think that means we can land the other patches so that /nova/cells.html redirects, too15:37
dhellmannthen we need to figure out how to explain how to use this :-)15:37
asettleOkay - have we a list of patches to land?15:38
dhellmannstand by15:38
* asettle stands15:38
mriedemi need to work on this https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/api-microversion-history.html15:38
mriedemsame issue as the cells page15:38
dhellmannoh, they're already done?15:38
dhellmannI was thinking https://review.openstack.org/48940715:39
asettleI saw all merged this morn, I was wondering...15:39
asettleWell "this morn"15:39
asettle"this afternoon"15:39
dhellmannhrm, that redirect isn't working15:39
dhellmannI'll have a look at that in a minute15:40
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mriedemi've got it15:40
mriedemif yo'ure talking about the api-microversion-history one15:40
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dhellmannmriedem : no, I meant to let /developer/nova/cells.html redirect to /nova/latest/user/cells.html15:41
mriedemdhellmann: did you mention something about not needing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487932/5/doc/source/_extra/.htaccess@5 ?15:42
dhellmannfor some reason that's not showing up in the htaccess file15:42
mriedemoh15:42
dhellmannyes, that's right, lines 4 and 5 can come out -- those were just for testing redirects in the CI output15:42
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mriedemhere is the api-microversion-history one https://review.openstack.org/48964115:45
mriedemfollowing your pattern15:45
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mriedemasettle: are you working on this or is stephenfin? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478485/15:47
asettlemriedem: joint effort. I need to talk to stephenfin when he returns. Want to work on the overall architecture of all the docs.15:48
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mriedemhmm, ok, this is pretty huge15:49
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mriedemlots of links are going to be broken by this i'm afraid15:50
asettleThe rework?15:50
mriedemyes15:50
dhellmannit looks like maybe we had a race publishing to docs.o.o and that's why the .htaccess didn't set up the redirect for /developer/nova/.* correctly15:50
asettleYes, I imagine so. We'll have to work to try and keep ahead of the curve. I'm sure stephenfin is on that.15:51
mriedemhaven't heard from him this week15:51
asettlemriedem: he's away in Greece I believe15:51
asettleHe won't be in until tomorrow-ish I think15:51
mriedemi thought that was ust 1 week15:51
mriedemoh ok15:51
asettleYep mriedem I'll try and catch him when he's back in to chat about it15:52
mriedemdhellmann: so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/489641/ isn't going to be sustainable15:54
dhellmannmriedem : in what way?15:54
mriedeme.g. we also have https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/vendordata.html and https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/placement.html15:54
mriedemi can't whack this many moles15:54
mriedemso do we just need a global redirect?15:54
dhellmannif there was a way to do it globally, we would do that. I haven't been able to think of a way, since we don't know where the pages ended up15:55
dhellmannyou could auto-generate something, though, given that you know from git history where the files are and where they were15:55
sdaguemriedem: ah, mostly I was just thinking if we had the 404 logs from the webserver we at least know what things are getting dead ended15:57
mriedemi don't have those logs15:57
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mriedemi could step back through the changes to the indexes in nova/doc/source and put up one by one redirects15:59
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mriedemi'll crank through those after lunch16:02
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dhellmannmriedem : $ git log --follow --name-status --format='%H' -- doc/source | grep ^R | grep .rst | cut -f2- | sed -e 's|doc/source/|^/nova/([^/]+)/|' -e 's|doc/source/|/nova/$1/|' -e 's/.rst/.html$/' -e 's/.rst/.html/'16:04
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dhellmanncheck that output syntax for the redirects16:04
dhellmannoh, and some of those are probably not the right names any more16:04
dhellmannbut that should get you started16:04
dhellmannyou probably want to do a for loop over those and see which of the output files still exist16:05
dhellmannor maybe just bound the git log16:05
dhellmannyeah, this looks a lot better:16:06
dhellmann$ git log --follow --name-status --format='%H' stable/ocata.. -- doc/source | grep ^R | grep .rst | cut -f2- | sed -e 's|doc/source/|^/nova/([^/]+)/|' -e 's|doc/source/|/nova/$1/|' -e 's/.rst/.html$/' -e 's/.rst/.html/'16:06
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mriedemthat doesn't do anything for me for some reason16:08
sdaguegit log --follow --name-status --format='' 2d0dfc632f.. -- doc/source | grep ^R | grep .rst | cut -f2- | sed -e 's|doc/source/|^/nova/([^/]+)/|' -e 's|doc/source/|/nova/$1/|' -e 's/.rst/.html$/' -e 's/.rst/.html/'16:13
sdagueworks for m16:13
sdaguestable/ocata not a thing16:13
dhellmannok, yeah, I have stable/ocata as a local branch16:14
dhellmannorigin/stable/ocata would probably have worked, too16:14
sdagueyeh, I just picked something about 7 months back16:14
mriedemhm, i have stable/ocata as a branch too16:14
mriedemsomeone want to just paste the output for me?16:15
dhellmannI'm going to put this in an email, so I'm trying to make it as generic as possible16:15
sdaguemriedem: I'll propose it16:15
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dhellmannmriedem, sdague, asettle : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120418.html16:30
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asettleThanks dhellmann :)17:00
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sdaguedhellmann: ++17:47
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dhellmannjungleboyj : hey, how are those cinder patches coming along? can I help in any way?18:50
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dhellmannasettle, annegentle, AJaeger : I have an email draft for recruiting contributors to the doc tools. Let me know if you think I've missed anything? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/t8tUSscujf19:20
jungleboyjComing along fine.  Any particular concern?  I need to get the master etherpad update.19:21
jungleboyjdhellmann:  Or did you see something else I am missing?19:21
dhellmannjungleboyj : no, you've asked for help a few times and I have some free time today19:21
dhellmannI just thought if I could pitch in it might be useful for you19:21
dhellmannsqueaky wheel and all that :-)19:22
jungleboyjdhellmann:  What a guy!19:22
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jungleboyjNo, I think I am doing ok.  Needing to focus on some internal stuff here today but planning to get back to the docs later this week.19:23
dhellmannjungleboyj : ok, sounds good19:23
jungleboyjdhellmann:  Thanks though!  I definitely will let you know if I get totally stuck on anything.19:23
dhellmannI'm always happy to help where I can19:24
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AJaegerdhellmann: I think both annegentle and myself are only reactive here and won't drive major work. But only added a sentence about myself - annegentle what do you think?19:25
dhellmannAJaeger : I didn't want to speak for you on that but it's good to include so thank you for adding it19:25
AJaegerdhellmann: sure. Rest looks fine, thanks for writing!19:26
annegentledhellmann ah yes, thanks for pointing it out, some edits inline for your consideration19:27
dhellmannannegentle : I responded inline on line 519:28
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dhellmannannegentle : is line 8 better?19:31
dhellmannexcellent, thank you both19:31
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AJaegerthanks, dhellmann.19:36
dhellmannemail sent19:36
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openstackgerritMark Korondi proposed openstack/training-guides master: WIP: Workflow - Replace inconsistent screenshots with selectable code snippets.  https://review.openstack.org/48976021:44
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setuiddid requirements.txt change? There's an extra '=' in the output which breaks my previously-working builds22:28
setuid$ sudo pip install unittest2===1.1.0| tail -322:28
setuidValueError: ('Expected version spec in', 'unittest2===1.1.0', 'at', '===1.1.0')22:28
setuidvs.22:29
setuid$ sudo pip install unittest2==1.1.022:29
setuidRequirement already satisfied (use --upgrade to upgrade): unittest2==1.1.0 in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages22:29
setuid...which works22:29
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dhellmannsetuid : we've had 3 = for a while now22:45
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dhellmannI forget why that's better than 2. More is always better, right?22:45
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setuidWeird, it fails on a 14.04 image, I'll test on 16.04, might be something broken in the core python parser22:58
setuidI had to pull out the third '=' to get pip to install each dep22:58
setuidwhoa... ok, on 14.04, pip is 1.5.4, on 16.04 it's 8.1.1 (both using python 2.7)22:59
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setuidYep, pip version discrepancy23:00
setuidThis is definitely the worst dependency hell I've run into in decades23:00
setuidThe errors tox spits out are _completely_ unrelated to the actual reason. It barks that xmlversion.h is missing (it isn't), because pil wasn't built with freetype and the right libjpeg header.23:01
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setuidblergh: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/15a7688f/23:17
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: osic nodes have been removed from nodepool due to a problem with the mirror host beginning around 22:20 UTC. please recheck any jobs with failures installing packages.23:46

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