Friday, 2017-07-28

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gmanndhellmann, .htaccess works right (current https://docs.openstack.org/nova get redirect to https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/ )  or we are waiting or this to test - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487932/02:24
gmanndhellmann, i was going to put fix for all nova doc redirect on top of your patch02:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/48808306:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: fix alignment of toc tree items in sidebar  https://review.openstack.org/48822206:39
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AJaegerdhellmann, asettle , amotoki,  I've proposed a release for the change above https://review.openstack.org/48830906:50
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AJaegerdhellmann: yes, we need to discuss where this content should live and can reenable it. But then we might want to rename the title as well?06:50
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/48831607:33
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Change priorities for sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48832107:47
AJaegerdhellmann, this changes the priorities of the sitemap. Should we ignore old releases, or just downgrade ? ^07:48
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Change priorities for sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48832107:55
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Change priorities for sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48832108:05
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Change priorities for sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48832108:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/48831608:12
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AJaegerdhellmann: do you know why this fails and could help, please? http://logs.openstack.org/21/488321/4/check/gate-openstack-doc-tools-python27-ubuntu-xenial/2bb39c6/console.html#_2017-07-28_08_09_38_22784108:13
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AJaegerdhellmann: now I get a 6.5 MB sitemap file - compared to the 3.7 MB earlier. So, questions is whether we should blacklist EOL releases.08:53
asettleAJaeger: looking at your patch now08:59
asettlejungleboyj and dhellmann - what ended up happening with the content? I'll look through this morning. I believe we did still want to build *some* content08:59
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Do not add EOL releases to sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48833809:10
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: anchor redirects for old guides  https://review.openstack.org/48795209:11
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Do not add EOL releases to sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48833809:25
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asettleAJaeger: do you by chance have a copy of master right now?09:40
AJaegerasettle: sure, why?09:41
asettleAJaeger: so, maybe I'm going crazy, but I just built all the docs from master, and rather than having a much smaller admin guide, it's building a full admin guide?09:41
asettleThe *old* admin guide.09:41
asettleThis is local09:42
AJaegerasettle: remove all your content - git clean -f -x -d, I guess you have old content somehow...09:42
asettleWeird.09:42
asettleThanks :)09:42
asettleAhuh, there it went09:42
AJaegerare yousure it's current content? Check the timestamp as well09:42
asettleYeah, I mean, I went into the admin-guide folder, and it's all the same as on github09:43
AJaegercurrently the admin guide is not build at all09:43
asettleYes, exactly, that's what I expected09:43
asettleBut instead it built the old guide :/09:43
asettleLet me try again now I've removed content09:43
AJaegerI doubt it built, I guess it was a one month old built still on your disk...09:43
asettleIf not, i'll just delete my copy and clone again.09:43
asettleYeah I'm guessing so.09:43
asettleWeird though, I'm usually pretty good at staying up to date...09:43
asettleAh well, learning :)09:44
asettleEhhh it looks like it's building again.09:45
asettleOH yay! IT worked. Build file for the admin guide is gone09:46
asettleThanks AJaeger :)09:46
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asettleAJaeger: I think we should go ahead with: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478142/10:19
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asettleaspiers: you around? :)10:55
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aspiersno11:19
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AJaegerasettle: we still have the glossary as part of other books, so no reason to publish it on its own IMHO.11:21
asettleAJaeger: yeah I was just looking at that, hella ugly11:22
asettleI would like to start the conversation again...11:22
asettleaspiers: you mean, your'e on 'holiday' no but still on IRC, or 'no' because you're hiding from me?11:23
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dhellmannAJaeger , asettle : o/11:50
AJaegermorning, dhellmann11:50
dhellmanngmann : we need to land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487932/ and test that before we add a bunch more11:51
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AJaegerdhellmann: nothing urgent - just a FYI: I updated the sitemap tool and would love some review on it. And need help to fix the py27 failure ;( I split it in two changes so that we can decide whether to take both or only the first.11:51
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dhellmannAJaeger : downgrading priority for older releases makes sense11:55
AJaegerdhellmann: question is whether we should include them and downgrade (first patch) or remove completely (second one). We can merge the first for now - once the py27 job is happy ;(11:57
dhellmannah, I see11:57
AJaegerdhellmann: thanks for 1.6.1 release11:57
dhellmanntop 100 404 errors via clarkb yesterday: http://paste.openstack.org/show/616775/11:58
AJaegeramotoki: openstackdocstheme 1.6.1 is released fixing the bug you reported. Once constraints are in, you should use it ;)11:58
AJaegerdhellmann: yeah ;(11:58
AJaegerdhellmann: I can spider the side and have the refererers as well so we can fix eventually...11:58
dhellmannAJaeger : that would be useful11:58
AJaegerI wonder who goes to latest ;(11:59
AJaegermeaning /common/latest/11:59
dhellmannyeah, that one felt like a broken redirect11:59
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dhellmannI can't decide about the sitemap thing. Do you want to land the first one and see how things go? How will we tell if it is "working" ?12:02
asettleHmmm...12:02
asettleI would go for testing it, let's see12:03
asettleWorst comes to worst, we can revert.12:03
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asettlenp :)12:04
asettleI have to head off to an appt shortly, I'll be back within the hour.12:04
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AJaegerdhellmann: I generated both locally and both work - it's a question on whether to include the EOL releases or not IMHO12:09
AJaegerwe can also tweak again later...12:09
dhellmannyeah, I mean "work" in the sense of improve targeting in search results for newer content12:11
AJaegerdhellmann: I have too little experience to even evaluate this ;(12:12
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AJaegerhow do we get links like https://docs.openstack.org/openstackdocstheme/1.13.0/1.11.0 ?12:14
AJaegerah, 1.13.0 was misplaced when publishing...12:15
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Link to latest version  https://review.openstack.org/48839612:20
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AJaegerwhich reminds me, we can go to older releases but never back to "latest" - fixed wit hthe change above ^12:20
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Link to latest version  https://review.openstack.org/48839612:33
AJaegerdhellmann: http://paste.openstack.org/show/616852/ is the result of spidering docs.o.o12:46
AJaegerwait, broken ...12:46
AJaegerargh, it only pastes in the first 363 lines but I have 56012:47
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AJaegerdhellmann: something is wrong with some of the refererers, I'm confused - just double checking ;(12:55
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aspiersasettle: 1. I have a lame sense of humour 2. I'm hiding from everyone since I'm doing my hackweek13:10
asettleaspiers: already knew 1, and 2 - okay, hide out. Lemme know when I can chat with you :)13:10
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jungleboyjasettle:  I am not sure where that content went.  I am getting the feeling that I need to sit down with the old doc build tree and click through everything to make sure I am not missing things that need to be migrated.13:50
asettlejungleboyj: might be best13:50
asettleAnything with 'blockstorage' https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/before-migration/doc/admin-guide/source13:50
jungleboyjasettle:  Yep.  :-)13:51
jungleboyjI will do my best in the next couple of weeks.13:51
asettlejungleboyj: lemme know if you need help13:52
asettleHave you got everything you need written down somehwer? Are you tracking it?13:52
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jungleboyjasettle:  Will do.  Don't have anything for you right now.  Still doing a lot of cleanup.13:53
jungleboyjIf I start getting things I need help with I will let you know.13:53
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asettleSure jungleboyj :)13:59
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Link to latest version  https://review.openstack.org/48839614:48
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: The Gerrit service on review.openstack.org is being taken offline for roughly 5 minutes to perform a database backup and reconfiguration17:12
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amotokiAJaeger: dhellmann: thanks for the quick fix and release in openstackdocstheme.17:51
AJaegerthanks, amotoki for the report!17:51
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jungleboyjAJaeger:  dhellmann  Suddenly getting blasted with questions about where the old docs*/newton/  documentation went.18:10
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jungleboyjSeems like removing that may have been premature.  Trying to figure out where we go.18:11
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AJaegerjungleboyj: there never was a newton/admin guide.18:14
AJaegerso, this is the removal of /admin instead18:14
jungleboyjYeah, maybe that is the confusion.18:15
jungleboyjAJaeger:  Trying to get diablo_rojo to join here so I am not playing telephone.18:17
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diablo_rojoI'm here18:22
diablo_rojoHello jungleboyj :)18:24
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  So, what documentation do you think is missing?18:25
diablo_rojoCinder admin guide for before Pike18:26
diablo_rojospecifically Newton18:26
AJaegerdiablo_rojo: we never had a newton admin guide18:26
AJaegerdiablo_rojo: we had one admin guide that was versionless and as part of our move to the repos, it's now in all the project repos.18:27
diablo_rojoAh, well that would explain it. Lol.18:27
AJaegerdiablo_rojo: We now make it versioned, so jungleboyj is currently adding admin guide into pike18:27
diablo_rojoAJaeger, was just concerned that the admin guide needed for the COA had disappeared.18:27
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diablo_rojoAJaeger, got it. Thank you jungleboyj :)18:28
AJaegerdiablo_rojo: yes, it has disappeared in one form - and resurrects as version for pike.18:28
diablo_rojoNoted, when I get panicked COA exam takers I will send them there :)18:28
diablo_rojoAJaeger, thanks for clearing up my confusion :)18:28
AJaegerthanks, diablo_rojo for bearing with our large reorg18:29
diablo_rojoAJaeger, no problem. Thank you for bearing the weight of helping handle the migration :)18:30
AJaeger;)18:31
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Do not add EOL releases to sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48833818:32
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Change priorities for sitemap  https://review.openstack.org/48832118:32
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  So, that answers your question?18:34
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yep I think so.18:34
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo:  I am in multiple meetings here.  So, the answer is that there wasn't ever a separate admin guide.  People are just confused about that?18:34
AJaegerdiablo_rojo, jungleboyj if you have suggestions on how to improve content of pages to lessen confusion, please propose them ;)18:36
AJaegerdhellmann, asettle https://review.openstack.org/488338  and  https://review.openstack.org/488321 are ready now. Your call whether to take both of them or not - I would go with both to have a smaller sitemap.xml file ;)18:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Removes 404 links in ja landing page  https://review.openstack.org/48793918:38
diablo_rojojungleboyj, yeah that was where the confusion came in I think.18:38
diablo_rojoAJaeger, will do :)18:38
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dhellmanndiablo_rojo : we could add a note to /newton/admin/ specifically for the COA folks, if you think that would help18:40
dhellmannAJaeger : I hope you have a good weekend18:40
diablo_rojodhellmann, that might be a good idea. I will see what Anne thinks and we can chat on that email thread :)18:41
dhellmanndiablo_rojo : ok. the file you want to edit is openstack-manuals/www/newton/admin/index.html18:41
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: dhellmann  I have gotten this question several times in the last couple of days so anything we can do to add a note out on the admin guide that nothing is missing would be helpful.19:05
jungleboyjWill also be all over setting up redirects for Cinder's content when there is agreement on how to do that.19:06
dhellmannyeah, we're still working out the details about how to make the redirects work19:07
jungleboyjI am glad that I can at least say now that nothing is gone from an admin guide standpoint.  It just looks different.19:08
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add special notice for COA exam studiers about admin guide  https://review.openstack.org/48857619:16
dhellmannjungleboyj, diablo_rojo : ^^19:17
setuidblergh, discussion moved to -dev, and I wasn't sub'd, catcing up19:26
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