Thursday, 2017-06-29

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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/api-site master: Adding load balancer (octavia) api-ref  https://review.openstack.org/47868500:13
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adding octavia api-ref  https://review.openstack.org/47868600:17
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openstackgerritJimmy McArthur proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Updated dropdown to align right and display overlay properly  https://review.openstack.org/47869402:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site master: Fix typos  https://review.openstack.org/46621105:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site master: QuickStart guide changes  https://review.openstack.org/46430105:11
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asettleMorning docerinos09:02
AJaegermorning, asettle !09:05
AJaegerasettle: could you put https://review.openstack.org/478483  on your review queue, please? That will help us moving forward...09:05
asettleAJaeger: np :) feel free to just add me on the list if I'm not up early enough.09:06
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chasonasettle: Hey Alex! o/09:40
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asettlechason: morning pal o/09:40
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chasonasettle: Hahah..Morning to you, afternoon to me. :p09:41
chasonAny idea about how do we handle the https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-rdo/environment-networking.html page?09:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Minimal support for storyboard  https://review.openstack.org/47848309:42
asettleOh yes sorry chason09:43
asettleafternoon!09:43
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asettlechason: so, I was actually thinking we just ask the neutron team if they want it. It might be worth it if Miguel takes a look, because it might just be duplicated content they already have.09:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adding octavia api-ref  https://review.openstack.org/47868609:47
chasonasettle: Duplicated content? OK, I will check it.09:48
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove content migrated to openstack/glance repo  https://review.openstack.org/47538809:48
asettlechason: yeah, that the neutron team might not need it09:49
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asettleAJaeger: could you take a look at this and tell me what crazy thing I'm missing? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475388/210:02
asettleMy comment explains my confusion10:02
AJaegerasettle: check the exclude variable in doc/install-guide/source - and adjust10:03
AJaegerasettle: check the exclude variable in doc/install-guide/source/conf.py - and adjust10:03
AJaeger(ignore first line)10:03
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asettleOh, does it need to be *in* that exclude?10:06
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asettleAJaeger: ^10:18
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove content migrated to openstack/glance repo  https://review.openstack.org/47538811:06
amotokiasettle: do we need to drop glossary which exists before the doc migration? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478388/11:07
amotokiasettle: the existing glossary in horizon provides less value, so I am not against dropping it, but I think it is not related to the doc migration effort. this is what I would like to clarify.11:08
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nishaYadavo/11:29
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nishaYadavCan anyone please help me find the source of these docs - https://docs.openstack.org/ocata/config-reference/identity/config-options.html11:30
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asettlenishaYadav: openstack-manuals repo https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals11:43
asettleamotoki: sorry, went out for lunch11:44
asettleUmm11:44
asettleamotoki: no you don't need to drop the glossary that existed before the migration, especially if it already lived in the developer tree11:44
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AJaegeramotoki: the spec has been updated, you should not include the glossary in neutron and remove the :term: ;(11:45
amotokiasettle: thanks. we will keep it atm. the glossary in horizon needs to be revisit, but we think it would be useful for all types of documentation in horizon.11:46
asettleamotoki: understandable :)11:46
amotokiAJaeger: i know. what we now talk is on horizon patches. I also know the neutron glossary import was abandoned.11:47
nishaYadavasettle, thanks. I am working on a patch that's related to newton. Do we have the code for all the releases in there? I haven't really worked before on updating docs of a previous release11:51
nishaYadavasettle, I got this link from the keystone channel, but not ablel to make out much of it, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/doc/config-reference/source/identity/config-options.rst11:52
asettlenishaYadav: we do indeed have the Newton docs there. You will have to update the Newton branch specfically.11:52
asettlenishaYadav: so that's the source code: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/config-reference/source/identity/config-options.rst11:53
asettleYOu commit to documentation the same way you would commit to keystone11:53
asettleClone the repo, check out the newton branch, update the doc, push to gerrit11:53
nishaYadavasettle, hmm, I will try that then11:55
asettlenishaYadav: we have a contributor guide11:55
asettlehttps://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/11:55
asettleYou should be able to use that to help yourself :)11:55
asettleKeep in mind, we are not accepting patches to master at this time due to the doc migration11:55
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asettleBut updating a change in Newton is fine :)11:55
nishaYadavasettle, I am bit confused about how to checkout to newton branch11:56
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asettlenishaYadav: the same way you would check out any branch11:56
asettleWhen you clone the openstack-manuals repo, there are release branches11:56
nishaYadavasettle, yeah, I heard about the migration11:56
nishaYadavhmm11:56
asettleSo, when you're on the master branch11:56
asettleYou need to execute:11:56
asettlegit checkout stable/newton11:56
asettleThen you need to checkout a branch ON that stable branch11:57
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nishaYadavasettle, ooh, got it now11:57
nishaYadavasettle, thanks :D11:57
asettlenishaYadav: yep :) it'll make a bit more sense once you work your way thorugh for hte first time ;)11:57
asettlenishaYadav: if you're ever in doubt about what branch is available, when you look at the repo: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals11:57
asettleyou'll see Branch: master11:57
asettleAnd a drop down11:57
asettleClick that, and you'll see the branches and tags :)11:57
nishaYadavasettle, woah, that'll be so useful11:58
asettlenishaYadav: I know, it's like magic11:58
asettle(sorta not really)11:58
asettleKeep in mind that Mitaka is currently EOL :) so we are not developing on that branch11:59
nishaYadavasettle, I wonder why I never checked that before.11:59
asettlenishaYadav: one of those things :P i'm pretty sure I never checked out another branch for like, the first 18 months of working on OpenStack?11:59
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nishaYadavasettle, hehe, there's always a good time & a good person ;)12:01
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asettleAJaeger had a lot of patience with me :p12:02
nishaYadavhehe :D12:03
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asettleping if you have any questions, nishaYadav :)12:11
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nishaYadavasettle, thanks :D12:12
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openstackgerritRitesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Install and configure in Installation Guide: Populate the Identity service database step fails on CentOS7  https://review.openstack.org/47889912:17
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides master: [upstream] Add trainers' guide to the web page  https://review.openstack.org/47781713:27
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sfinucanAJaeger, asettle: Forgive me for the being out of the loop with this, but what's happening with glossaries?13:47
sfinucanCan we add per-project ones, or is there only a single one?13:47
* sfinucan is firmly for the latter, fwiw :)13:48
dhellmannsfinucan : I think they decided to just keep 1 glossary in the openstack-manuals repo13:51
sfinucandhellmann: Know if the reason for that noted anywhere? (Google's giving me nothing)13:51
dhellmannit was discussed here in this channel this week13:52
dhellmannIIRC, the reason was the difficulty of keeping multiple glossaries in sync13:52
dhellmannif a project already has a glossary, it should be OK to keep that13:52
sfinucanAh, I'll go check eavesdrop13:52
dhellmannbut we removed the step for copying the glossary into projects as part of the migration13:52
sfinucanI don't necessarily think they need to be synced. The context/level of detail needed between projects varies hugely13:53
sfinucanBut now I know not to -1 doc-rework patches for removing ':term:' definitions13:53
dhellmannyeah, my original intent was just to copy the parts that were needed, but for expedience I suggested copying the whole thing and cleaning it up as a separate step13:54
sfinucanHmm, I might request that if it's not expressly forbidden13:54
AJaegersfinucan: if we find a version to reuse our central glossary in builds, it would be great. I just don't want it to copy to 100s of repos and keep in sync...13:55
dhellmannAJaeger : syncing was never the proposal13:55
AJaegersfinucan: the spec has been updated13:55
dhellmanncopy whole for speed, then cleanup later13:55
asettleI'm fairly against the whole 'clean up later' idea. Simply because we keep assigning work to teams when we're already dumping large amounts of work on them to begin with.13:58
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sfinucandhellmann: Could we use http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ext/intersphinx.html ?14:02
sfinucanso we can preserve ':term:' linking. I'd still rather separate glossaries, but I appreciate the effort involved there14:03
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dhellmannsfinucan : I think intersphinx works with :ref: doesn't it?14:07
sfinucanfrom the docs, it works with any kind of reference14:07
sfinucanincluding the likes of :py:mod:14:08
sfinucan...though I've yet to test it14:08
dhellmannpersonally, this is not something I care about. I agree it would be useful to solve, but I am much more concerned with getting the other parts moved before the next milestone, and the RC1 date at the very latest14:08
dhellmanngreat, that may be something to investigate14:08
sfinucantrue that14:08
dhellmannif you want to do that now, ok. Or you could add it to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems14:08
dhellmannsfinucan : we also have to consider how those external references work for distros that package the docs14:08
dhellmannAJaeger, asettle : I think I have the repo list pared down so that https://doughellmann.com/doc-migration/ is showing accurate data now14:10
AJaegergreat, dhellmann14:11
nishaYadavasettle, I cloned the openstack-manuals. But when I did git branch I only see master and when I did git checkout stable/newton I get an error saying, pathspec 'stable/newton/ did not match any files known to git14:11
nishaYadavasettle, should I be using the command git clone --branch stable/newton <URL> instead to clone the desired branch?14:12
asettledhellmann: great stuff :) thanks.14:12
dhellmannasettle , AJaeger : now we just need to get folks to help us drive those graphs to 014:13
dhellmann:-)14:13
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AJaegerdhellmann: I've took barbican - but my plate is full, so don't expect miracles from me.14:13
asettlenishaYadav: no, I don't see why you'd have to do that. But I mean, go ahead, I don't see why it wouldn't work.14:14
asettleLemme check something for you14:14
nishaYadavasettle, so you mean to say when we clone any repo using git clone command, all the branches must be present/downloaded by default?14:15
asettlenishaYadav: yes14:15
AJaegernishaYadav: yes.14:15
AJaegernishaYadav: Run "git branch -a" to see remote branches as well14:16
asettlenishaYadav: try "git checkout origin/stable/newton"14:16
nishaYadavasettle, AJaeger hmm, I have used git branch command often, but I have never before seen any branches other than master or the ones I created14:16
asettleThen it should ask you to create a branch :)14:16
nishaYadavAJaeger, asettle thanks I will run both and get back14:17
asettleIt'll say something like "Note: checking out origin/stable/newton" and then it'll say you're in a detached head state14:17
AJaegernishaYadav: git branch shows only local branches. Add "-a" to get they others14:17
asettleThen create a new branch :)14:17
AJaegeror run "git checkout --track origin/stable/newton"14:17
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nishaYadavAJaeger, thanks saw the other branches now using -a14:18
nishaYadavAJaeger, can you please tell me why --track is required in above command?14:19
asettlenishaYadav:  -t, --track           set upstream info for new branch14:20
nishaYadavoh :)14:21
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nishaYadavasettle, AJaeger thanks a lot for helping me understand :)14:22
asettle*thumbs up*14:23
asettleHappy to help14:23
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asettleannegentle: I like the little drop down menu14:39
asettleThat's cool14:39
annegentleasettle cool14:39
annegentleasettle me too, trying to get it working!14:40
asettleYeah :D thanks so much for putting the effort into this, really appreciate it!14:40
asettleIt's good you can get some Foundation help14:40
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar  https://review.openstack.org/47763914:43
annegentleasettle let's see if that does it14:43
asettleStanding by for the build! D14:43
asettle:D *14:43
annegentleasettle couldn't do it without a real webdev, geez14:43
asettleWeb devs knowwwww14:43
annegentleasettle still doesn't work for me locally14:44
annegentleasettle sidebar div goes away, who knows where?14:44
asettleDid you say something mean to the side bar div?14:48
asettleJust asking.14:48
asettleIN case.14:48
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nishaYadavasettle, I hope I not bothering much. I was wondering that when I run tox -e docs does it run all the individual tests like checkbuild, checkniceness etc?15:02
asettleYes :)15:03
asettleIt'll build every doc in the repo though15:03
asettleSo, I'd recommend running tox -e docs build config-ref or whatever15:03
nishaYadavasettle, oh, that must save time :)15:03
asettlehahaha yeah a lot of time15:04
asettleSorry, just15:04
asettletox -e build -- config-ref15:04
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nishaYadavasettle, oh, cool :)15:06
asettleYa \o/15:07
nishaYadav:D15:07
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asettleFor those attending the docs meeting in 45 minutes: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Documentation_team_meeting15:17
asettleMeeting to be held in #openstack-meeting at 160015:17
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AJaegerasettle: thanks for meeting heads-up. I'll try to attend but have another meeting and need to leave afterwards. But I joined the channel already ;)15:28
asettleNo sweat :) it's more or less going to be an open floor for anyone that wants to come and chat about doc migration stuff15:29
nishaYadavI will like to attend :D15:29
asettlenishaYadav: sounds good :)15:30
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asettleannegentle: hm, so I just saw the patch build15:45
asettleNo changes. Weird.15:45
asettleAh, update from jimmy15:46
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amotokiwhen it the right timing to switch server-publish-job to unified job? individual project teams can propose it, but I wonder when we should do it.15:55
amotokiRelated to this, when a redirect for /developer/<project> will be setup or already setup? I would like to avoid the link breakage for readers.15:56
AJaegeramotoki: we have done it so far whenever projects imported our content and move to new structure15:56
AJaegeramotoki: we= dhellmann15:57
dhellmannwe want the publishing jobs to land before the redirects15:57
dhellmannso that the redirects have something to point to :-)15:57
dhellmannso as soon as the content is reorganized in a repo, the publishing job should be ok to land15:57
AJaegerdhellmann: we could do a mass change - what do you think?15:58
dhellmannwe are going to land the redirects as part of my series of patches to openstack-manuals early next week15:58
asettle\o/15:58
AJaegerThere's AFAIK no reason not to do it *now* - or what do I miss?15:58
AJaeger(besides that we need to add the redirects)15:58
dhellmannAJaeger : yeah, next week after we give teams a chance to do it on their own15:58
AJaegerdhellmann: ok15:58
dhellmannI'm hoping to get teams to feel a sense of ownership by doing some of the work themselves15:58
dhellmannbut we won't let it linger15:58
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amotokiAJaeger: dhellmann: so is it better we (project teams) focus on landing the new structure in project repos.15:59
dhellmannamotoki : we outlined the steps that project teams need to follow in the spec.15:59
AJaegeramotoki: so, go ahead , please16:00
asettleMeeting in #openstack-doc now :)16:00
asettleoh ffs16:00
asettleopenstack-meeting *16:00
amotokidhellmann: yes, I have read it. thanks.16:01
atheneumhow to join meeting?16:01
asettleatheneum: join the #openstack-meeting channel16:02
AJaegeratheneum: /join #openstack-meeting16:02
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar  https://review.openstack.org/47763917:04
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openstackgerritNisha Yadav proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: Document AD nested groups support in keystone  https://review.openstack.org/47900817:13
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nishaYadavasettle, unfortunately my internet wasn't working. I will scroll through the logs of the meeting.17:18
nishaYadavasettle, I just uploaded the patch, in case you around would like you to review it ^17:19
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity  https://review.openstack.org/47903218:39
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity  https://review.openstack.org/47903218:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/newton: Document AD nested groups support in keystone  https://review.openstack.org/47900819:02
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AJaegerdhellmann, asettle, annegentle : openstackdocstheme uses "openstack-manuals" if bug_project is not set. Should we error out instead if it is not set? I don't want everybody file bugs against openstack-manuals ;)19:40
annegentleyeah I can change to tools AJaeger ?19:41
dhellmannAJaeger: do you mean make the theme fail the build if that option is not set?19:41
AJaegeryes, let the theme fail the build if it is not set19:41
dhellmannan alternative would be to not show the bug link19:41
dhellmannthat way we don't break a bunch of builds19:41
AJaegerdhellmann: yes, that's the other option. Any preferences from those listening in?19:42
dhellmannput me down as 1 vote for silently dropping the bug link19:43
AJaegerdone19:43
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: remove networking guide  https://review.openstack.org/47818820:00
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: add redirects from docs.o.o/project/ to the latest build  https://review.openstack.org/47818920:00
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Require bug_project setting  https://review.openstack.org/47905020:11
AJaegerdhellmann: implemented and tested ^20:11
* AJaeger will add releasenote now20:12
dhellmannAJaeger : +220:12
AJaegeryou're too quick ;)20:13
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Require bug_project setting  https://review.openstack.org/47905020:13
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Always set bug_project  https://review.openstack.org/47905120:18
AJaegerdhellmann, asettle, we need both changes above ^20:19
* AJaeger waves good night20:19
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity  https://review.openstack.org/47903220:22
dhellmannAJaeger : o/20:30
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Change name of checkbuild testenv to buildpdf for clarity  https://review.openstack.org/47903220:30
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Adds list of versions in the "Updated" bar  https://review.openstack.org/47763922:14
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amotokiAJaeger: question on the location where i18n guide should be published in the new doc setup. According to the doc spec, /i18n/latest/ is the right place? or just /i18n/?22:34
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