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| warlord77 | asettle , Hi | 05:20 |
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| warlord77 | asettle, can i help out in migration of documentation ? | 05:45 |
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| asettle | warlord77: heya | 09:02 |
| asettle | You can help out in the migration, if you'd like :) | 09:02 |
| asettle | Have you had a chance to look through and review the specification to understand what we are trying to achieve? | 09:02 |
| asettle | https://review.openstack.org/472275 | 09:02 |
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| chason | asettle: Hi Alex | 09:12 |
| chason | asettle: one question | 09:12 |
| chason | asettle: about Networking Guide migration | 09:13 |
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| chason | asettle: Is it enough to migrate just Ocata branch of Networking Guide and Ignore the Master branch? | 09:14 |
| chason | *ignore | 09:15 |
| asettle | chason: hey hey | 09:16 |
| asettle | I did think about that | 09:16 |
| chason | asettle: OK | 09:16 |
| asettle | I would say yes, for now. | 09:16 |
| asettle | But we do have to ensure that even though the patch is blocked, before that stuff is migrated out we merge it. | 09:17 |
| chason | asettle: To the Ocata branch of Neutron project? | 09:17 |
| asettle | Yes :) | 09:17 |
| asettle | Wait, no | 09:17 |
| asettle | To the master branch of the Neutron project | 09:17 |
| asettle | Because we merged the change into the networking guide into ocata already | 09:17 |
| chason | Get it! | 09:18 |
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| chason | asettle: Is it time for us to do this migration? | 09:38 |
| chason | asettle: Or I just need wait still? | 09:39 |
| asettle | chason: parts of it are already happening. As the spec said, the project teams are in charge of migrating their own docs to their repo | 09:39 |
| asettle | We are looking after what is happening in the openstack-manuals repo | 09:39 |
| asettle | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking | 09:40 |
| asettle | If you scroll down to our docs | 09:40 |
| asettle | You will see "TODO" items | 09:40 |
| asettle | Any of those items that haven't already been undertaken by dhellmann you are welcome to start | 09:40 |
| asettle | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/openstack-manuals+branch:master+topic:doc-migration | 09:40 |
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| chason | asettle: I see. | 09:44 |
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| warlord77 | asettle:is there any place where i can help out in migration ? | 10:13 |
| asettle | warlord77: what I said to Chason above is where I recommend you start :) | 10:14 |
| asettle | Have a look through the list, ensure you read the spec to make sure you understand what is happening, and then dive in | 10:14 |
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| warlord77 | asettle:all the things in this list has to be done by docs team ? | 10:21 |
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| asettle | warlord77: no, so, as i said, read the specification I linked to you above. This one: https://review.openstack.org/472275 | 10:21 |
| asettle | This will tell you that the project teams are responsible for their documentation migration | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/476471 | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/476473 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/476473 | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/476471 | 12:19 |
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| dhellmann | asettle : o/ | 12:56 |
| asettle | Morning dhellmann ! | 12:57 |
| asettle | Look at you, sleeping in | 12:57 |
| dhellmann | meeting cancelled! | 12:57 |
| dhellmann | woot | 12:57 |
| asettle | Whaaaat | 12:57 |
| asettle | Outrageous | 12:57 |
| * dhellmann has learned not to ask questions | 12:58 | |
| asettle | Completely agree | 12:58 |
| asettle | Carryo on | 12:58 |
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| asettle | dhellmann or annegentle now you're both here | 13:00 |
| asettle | Could you one of you do me a favour and review this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475555/ | 13:00 |
| annegentle | o/ | 13:00 |
| asettle | We've been deprecated to the 'free' google search, so we have ads | 13:00 |
| dhellmann | looking | 13:00 |
| asettle | Would like to remove asap | 13:00 |
| annegentle | asettle we'll also need a release of the theme | 13:01 |
| asettle | annegentle: we do, we do | 13:01 |
| dhellmann | asettle, annegentle : speaking of search, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476262/ will redirect docs.o.o/search to the searchlight project docs. dunno if that's what we want for service-type redirects. | 13:01 |
| asettle | annegentle: do you want to wait for this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468021/ | 13:02 |
| annegentle | asettle nah | 13:02 |
| asettle | It'd be good to only have to do one release, but if you need more time... | 13:02 |
| asettle | Okay. | 13:02 |
| asettle | RELEASE THE KRAKEN | 13:02 |
| annegentle | asettle I was out sick yesterday and feeling ughhhhh today | 13:02 |
| asettle | annegentle: oh no :( rest up yo | 13:02 |
| annegentle | asettle so no way I can it all done, heh | 13:02 |
| annegentle | one release is fine | 13:03 |
| asettle | Is pkovar around? :) I wonder if he'd like to get started as release manager and learn some fun things... :P | 13:03 |
| annegentle | asettle and, it'll get rid of the 404 bug | 13:03 |
| annegentle | asettle good thinking | 13:03 |
| asettle | annegentle: true dat | 13:03 |
| annegentle | asettle always nice to practice | 13:03 |
| asettle | Preciselyyy ;) | 13:03 |
| asettle | annegentle: do we have release instructions for the theme? | 13:03 |
| asettle | Other than: https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/release-tools.html | 13:04 |
| annegentle | dhellmann well... it's okay since we never had a search landing | 13:04 |
| annegentle | asettle same, same, ayup | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | annegentle : ok, just wanted to highlight that one because it jumped out at me as odd | 13:04 |
| asettle | annegentle: that's it, huh? | 13:04 |
| annegentle | dhellmann yeah, but there's going to be plenty of real world use | 13:04 |
| dhellmann | ok, wfm | 13:04 |
| annegentle | dhellmann funny that /search 404s today | 13:05 |
| dhellmann | annegentle : how do you search for a search page?! | 13:06 |
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| annegentle | dhellmann heh, uhh... | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | asettle : what are your thoughts on how long to wait to approve the migration spec and balancing the need to have publicity with the desire to start the move? | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | annegentle : sorry, it's too early in the morning for philosophy | 13:08 |
| asettle | dhellmann: hmm good question | 13:08 |
| asettle | On one hand, we need to get started asap. On the other hand, we really need to make sure people know and understand what is about to happen and how this affects them. | 13:09 |
| asettle | But, we have emailed, and emailed, and I don't know how much more we can make it clear. The spec has been up for a few weeks. | 13:09 |
| asettle | So, how much more publicity would you think is required? | 13:09 |
| asettle | What is 'adequate' publicity? | 13:09 |
| asettle | Do we have any guidelines on that for major changes? | 13:10 |
| annegentle | dhellmann docs.openstack.org/cats also 404s | 13:10 |
| annegentle | asettle I think we approve it | 13:10 |
| annegentle | asettle I almost did yesterday | 13:10 |
| annegentle | asettle it's fine, it's already more than adequate | 13:11 |
| asettle | annegentle: I'm happy for you to do so. That's a lot of +1s, we're on the final iteration | 13:11 |
| asettle | We might as well press the button at some point or we'll end up debating hte meaning of life at some point | 13:11 |
| annegentle | asettle ok cool. I figured you probably didn't want to self-approve | 13:11 |
| annegentle | yep | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | asettle, annegentle : I was going to suggest early next week, but don't let me hold you back :-) | 13:11 |
| annegentle | dhellmann heh | 13:11 |
| asettle | annegentle: yeah that'd look a bit tacky :p | 13:11 |
| asettle | dhellmann: we are movers and shakers | 13:11 |
| annegentle | dhellmann definitely before first week of July hits in the stats | 13:11 |
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| annegentle | states I mean | 13:11 |
| asettle | annegentle: actually that's a seriously good point | 13:11 |
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| asettle | MERGE NOW | 13:11 |
| dhellmann | oh, good point, I wasn't thinking about what next week was | 13:11 |
| asettle | WHILE I HAVE PEOPLE | 13:12 |
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| annegentle | asettle can be Monday, that's fine | 13:12 |
| asettle | How about we give it until COB Friday? | 13:12 |
| asettle | Close it out for the week | 13:12 |
| annegentle | asettle that's cool, dhellmann get your +1 on there! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275 :) | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | done | 13:13 |
| asettle | annegentle: ace | 13:13 |
| asettle | nice dhellmann :D | 13:13 |
| asettle | 24 hours for people to spit chips | 13:13 |
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| pkovar | asettle: i'm around :) | 13:23 |
| asettle | pkovar: hi pal! | 13:23 |
| asettle | Wanna get hands on? | 13:23 |
| pkovar | asettle: sure thing. is this about doing a release? | 13:25 |
| asettle | Haha yep. | 13:25 |
| pkovar | /me is new to this | 13:25 |
| asettle | Once this is merged into the source code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475555/ | 13:25 |
| asettle | We need a openstackdocstheme release :) | 13:25 |
| asettle | v | 13:25 |
| asettle | https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/release/release-tools.html | 13:25 |
| asettle | Good copy paste, Alex | 13:25 |
| asettle | You're a star. | 13:25 |
| pkovar | asettle: okay. is there an example gerrit review i could use? | 13:26 |
| asettle | Good question | 13:27 |
| asettle | Uno momento por favor | 13:27 |
| asettle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/448891/ | 13:28 |
| pkovar | asettle: great, thank you. that change seems pretty straightforward | 13:31 |
| asettle | pkovar: should be :) | 13:31 |
| asettle | (er, if it's not, I"m not here) | 13:31 |
| pkovar | haha | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Update Site Search https://review.openstack.org/475555 | 13:31 |
| asettle | Okay! | 13:31 |
| asettle | It's merged | 13:31 |
| asettle | ^ | 13:31 |
| pkovar | okay, let me try! | 13:32 |
| asettle | \o/ go go go | 13:32 |
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| dhellmann | asettle : you should have just received an email I sent to all ptls about the spec | 13:37 |
| asettle | dhellmann: lgtm! | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | pkovar : have a look at the readme in the releases repo, there are some tools there to make the process easy, too. I usually do something like "tox -e venv -- new-release pike my-project bugfix" | 13:38 |
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| pkovar | asettle: dhellmann: does this look good to you? | 13:59 |
| pkovar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476525/ | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | pkovar : looks good, let's see what the bots have to say | 13:59 |
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| pkovar | dhellmann: is my understanding correct in that i only need to update that yaml file? | 14:01 |
| pkovar | everything else is done by the release team? | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | pkovar : that's right. keep an eye on the review in case there are comments, but otherwise when the patch is approved the infra systems will do the release | 14:03 |
| pkovar | cool | 14:03 |
| asettle | pkovar: sweet as :) | 14:03 |
| asettle | lgtm | 14:03 |
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| pkovar | asettle: the readme says i need your +1 :) | 14:05 |
| asettle | pkovar: it's cause i'm powerful and important | 14:05 |
| asettle | (and an imposter, help) | 14:05 |
| asettle | +1 for you | 14:05 |
| pkovar | much appreciated :) | 14:06 |
| asettle | Happy to assist | 14:06 |
| asettle | Thanks for diving in :) | 14:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Petr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [contributor] Point to example review for new package release https://review.openstack.org/476536 | 14:27 |
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| dhellmann | pkovar : if you're the liaison, just put your name on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons and you won't need asettle to +1 | 14:41 |
| asettle | dhellmann: not quite the same thing :) | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | ? | 14:42 |
| asettle | dhellmann: pkovar is our release manager for this cycle. | 14:42 |
| asettle | Which, we change up, each release. | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | right, if he's the liaison to the release team we don't need you to +1 releases that he submits | 14:42 |
| asettle | AH sorry sorry | 14:42 |
| asettle | You're right | 14:42 |
| asettle | I misread that entirely | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | liaisoning the other way | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | pkovar : now you just need to remove the WIP :-) | 14:43 |
| pkovar | dhellmann: will do :) | 14:43 |
| pkovar | asettle: so i guess i will add my name to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons#Release_management | 14:43 |
| asettle | pkovar: please do :) ignore me before, i'm a looney | 14:44 |
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| pkovar | nw :) | 14:47 |
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| dhellmann | pkovar : that release is approved. if you could set up your irc client to join #openstack-release that will help make sure the release team can reach you for urgent decisions | 14:54 |
| asettle | dhellmann: you sure know how to rock up a crowd on a spec | 14:55 |
| asettle | Jeez | 14:55 |
| asettle | So popular | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | some teams wanted to rip it out to avoid confusion, but I expect it to linger for a while | 14:55 |
| pkovar | dhellmann: done. and thanks | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | oops, wrong window | 14:56 |
| asettle | dhellmann: oh now we know how you really feel :p | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | heh, no, that was about something completely unrelated | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | but yeah, emailing the ptls directly on a thursday seems to be the magic trick | 14:56 |
| asettle | dhellmann: yeah dang. | 14:58 |
| * asettle writes that down | 14:58 | |
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| annegentle | I see how to build PDF, but how can I build HTML only locally? | 15:54 |
| annegentle | Looking at https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-builds.html | 15:55 |
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| sfinucan | annegentle: What are you trying to build? | 16:10 |
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| annegentle | sfinucan I can't build PDF on my mac | 16:10 |
| annegentle | sfinucan working on the theme currently | 16:10 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, theorically (sorry for typo) without --pdf should generate just html locallyl... | 16:10 |
| annegentle | ianychoi hm, do I need to change tox.ini then? | 16:10 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, for contributor guide? | 16:11 |
| annegentle | ianychoi for openstackdocstheme | 16:11 |
| sfinucan | annegentle: I just do 'tox -e build contributor-guide' | 16:11 |
| sfinucan | for example... | 16:11 |
| annegentle | I'll compare to the openstack-manuals tox.ini | 16:11 |
| sfinucan | ohh, I get you now | 16:11 |
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| sfinucan | for openstackdocstheme it looks like you need 'tox -e docs'? | 16:12 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/tools/build-all-rst.sh#n30 this line should be related with build | 16:12 |
| annegentle | sfinucan right, but now the openstackdocstheme tox.ini contains a make command in the docs enviro | 16:12 |
| annegentle | ianychoi yeah the openstackdocstheme doesn't have those scripts... I'll adjust | 16:13 |
| ianychoi | annegentle, thanks a lot for this. Actually I was confused with adjusting between checkbuild, docs, and publishdocs builds in Jenkins and I discussed it with Andreas yesterday to deal with openstackthemes pdf build | 16:14 |
| sfinucan | Out of curiosity, why do we even need pdf? Do folks use it? | 16:14 |
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| ianychoi | annegentle, and I think importing openstack-doc-tools for both index and pdf in landing page for Jenkins would be helpful but I am not sure whether this idea would be good or not | 16:15 |
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| ianychoi | sfinucan, pdf build was implemented with the rationale: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/docs-specs/specs/ocata/build-pdf-from-rst-guides.html | 16:16 |
| sfinucan | ianychoi: Aha, thanks for the context :) | 16:17 |
| ianychoi | sfinucan, no problem :) | 16:18 |
| AJaeger | how are we going to handle PDF builds with the new spec, asettle and dhellmann? I think we loose that with the split manuals, won't we? | 16:19 |
| asettle | AJaeger: we do indee.d | 16:19 |
| asettle | AJaeger: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-future-problems | 16:19 |
| asettle | See point 3 | 16:20 |
| asettle | In essence, no plan. | 16:21 |
| asettle | I wonder if we can integrate the PDF build to happen after the collective build | 16:21 |
| ianychoi | No plan.... :) haha asettle sorry for following up for me slowly | 16:21 |
| AJaeger | asettle: understood | 16:27 |
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| dhellmann | AJaeger, asettle : yeah, we need to add pdf to the regular jobs. We can, I think, tell pbr which builders to use but I need to investigate more | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [WIP] Add PowerVM compute driver config reference https://review.openstack.org/476636 | 17:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Eric Berglund proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [WIP] Add PowerVM compute driver config reference https://review.openstack.org/476636 | 17:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Working on integrating options from oslosphinx theme https://review.openstack.org/468021 | 18:04 |
| setuid | asettle: You about? Weird issue with building the docs on a host behind a proxy. I've cloned the repo, patched it, configured maven for the proxy, it successfully downloads the dependent jars, etc. but then times out trying to pull one of the cinder resources. | 18:07 |
| setuid | I can use curl and pull that resource instantly, but maven seems to time out on it after ~60 seconds | 18:07 |
| setuid | error pastebin coming in a moment | 18:08 |
| asettle | setuid: that's weird | 18:09 |
| asettle | Continue | 18:09 |
| asettle | setuid: are you building master or one of the branches/tags? | 18:11 |
| setuid | asettle: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/a79cb2cf/ | 18:13 |
| setuid | building from liberty-eol tag | 18:13 |
| asettle | Hmm I will say, this is murky ground for me | 18:13 |
| asettle | Lemme look | 18:14 |
| setuid | I'll rerun with -e -X | 18:14 |
| asettle | That's pretty much the same error as yesterday, no? We needed to file a bug for that one and comment out the config ref until we could find the right trace to the cinder tag | 18:14 |
| setuid | No no, different | 18:15 |
| setuid | I've resolved the issue with upstream referring to stable/liberty, by pointing to specific versions | 18:15 |
| asettle | Oh hmm | 18:16 |
| asettle | To be completely honest, I genuinely have no idea. I've never gone this far :( | 18:16 |
| asettle | AJaeger: are you around? | 18:16 |
| setuid | Had a thought proposed yesterday too, from one of my peers: Using gzip on the resulting html, and serving up Content-Type tar/gzip so they are compresed on local disk, but uncompressed by the browser (back to backend storage savings, that is) | 18:17 |
| setuid | Another attempt with maven debug enabled: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/54559d32/ | 18:19 |
| setuid | Caused by: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out (Connection timed out) | 18:19 |
| setuid | Seems like it's a proxy issue, but I've also added JAVA_FLAGS="-Dhttp.proxyHost=..." etc. | 18:19 |
| asettle | Yeah hm, can you get off the host behind the proxy? | 18:20 |
| setuid | Nope, no way to get to it without jumping through a jumphost, no way to pull data off of it, or inject data into it | 18:20 |
| asettle | Bugger. Okay. | 18:20 |
| asettle | I admit I"m probably no help because I tunnel out of our networks *anything* | 18:21 |
| setuid | I have a local clone on my laptop, same tree + git patch which builds fine, clean, no issues. So it's definitely related to something to do with the proxy. | 18:21 |
| asettle | Hmmm I'd say so | 18:21 |
| setuid | Yeah, openvpn, ssh tunnels, etc. are all terminated at session connect time | 18:21 |
| asettle | Might be worth checking ask.openstack.org see if anyone else has all managed it | 18:21 |
| asettle | For real!? | 18:21 |
| asettle | Why?! | 18:21 |
| setuid | Because those aren't approved methods to get offsite or into the hosts. It's a very, VERY secure network with lots of proxies and mitm layered in. | 18:22 |
| asettle | Well, kudos for security, but that doesn't help us | 18:22 |
| asettle | Hmm | 18:22 |
| setuid | I'll poke around the java forums, may be a way to do this | 18:22 |
| setuid | everything else + shell is correctly configured, but java needs its own snowflake config, apparently | 18:23 |
| asettle | Yeah, I'm not your gal in that department :( sorry I can't help further | 18:23 |
| asettle | Anyway, gotta roll and get dinner on the table :) | 18:23 |
| asettle | Good luck! | 18:23 |
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| setuid | All good, I wouldn't be where I am if I wasn't stubborn and just kept bashing on it until I figured it out :) | 18:23 |
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| AJaeger | asettle: now I am | 18:52 |
| AJaeger | but no idea on setuid 's problem | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme master: Working on integrating options from oslosphinx theme https://review.openstack.org/468021 | 19:54 |
| asettle | AJaeger: yeah okay, thanks :) | 19:54 |
| asettle | Same | 19:54 |
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| setuid | asettle: Appears there's something subtle and magical between maven and java that do not behave well together, still trying to sort it out | 22:52 |
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