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| asettle | AJaeger: have you had a change to have a second review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/445536/ | 11:12 |
| asettle | It's looking pretty good I think :D | 11:12 |
| openstackgerrit | zhangdaolong proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Delete invalid parameters in command example. https://review.openstack.org/448007 | 11:15 |
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| AJaeger | asettle: later today I hope... | 11:45 |
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| asettle | Hopefully you like it AJaeger :D | 12:33 |
| asettle | There seems to be no major qualms except for a few wording bits here and there | 12:33 |
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| smcginnis | Are there known issues with docs jobs right now? | 12:47 |
| smcginnis | I'm seeing jobs fail in Cinder with this: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'poll' | 12:47 |
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| AJaeger | smcginnis: there was an update of eventlet in upper-constraints to 0.20.1 - might this be related? | 12:57 |
| smcginnis | AJaeger: Doesn't seem like it would, but I suppose it could be one of those indirect failures. | 12:58 |
| AJaeger | smcginnis: "Exception TypeError: "'NoneType' object is not callable" in <bound method _SocketDuckForFd.__del__ of _SocketDuckForFd" looks suspicous. | 12:58 |
| smcginnis | AJaeger: I'll keep digging. | 12:58 |
| AJaeger | smcginnis: best to ask more python or sphinx experts. Docs team is not aware of anything | 12:58 |
| smcginnis | AJaeger: Yeah, checking in dev too and getting pointed to eventlet. Just thought I would see if this was anything folks were aware of. | 12:59 |
| smcginnis | AJaeger: Thanks! | 12:59 |
| AJaeger | smcginnis: now we're aware ;) Thanks | 12:59 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 13:00 |
| smcginnis | AJaeger: Well, if anyone else comes asking, looks like it is eventlet after all: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-March/114367.html | 13:00 |
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| AJaeger | ok | 13:05 |
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| v1k0d3n | hey everyone | 18:45 |
| v1k0d3n | i have some questions about docs for openstack. we're a new project, and we're soon going to be imported into openstack. i'm sort of wondering how the docs group works, how docs are different than typical md files in github, etc. | 18:47 |
| v1k0d3n | not sure exactly how tech writers can assist projects, etc. i really know nothing yet, but i'm searching around. | 18:47 |
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| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: welcome! | 18:56 |
| AJaeger | http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/ explains some of how docs work | 18:57 |
| v1k0d3n | thanks AJaeger :) | 18:57 |
| AJaeger | And also the Project Team Guide explains how OpenStack teams work and has a section on docs https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/ | 18:57 |
| v1k0d3n | so my first question...should i wait until we're in openstack to do some of this work? | 18:57 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: there are basically two kind of docs: Developer docs and admin/user docs. Developer docs is always in the team repo. | 18:58 |
| AJaeger | admin/user docs are for some projects - and based on topic - in team repo, others in openstack-manuals. | 18:58 |
| AJaeger | Be aware that the docs team is small, we concentrate on what is in openstack-manuals - and can only support official projects in the Big Tent (and even that is a challenge) | 18:59 |
| AJaeger | So, if you start: Write your own docs in the doc directory and use the guide lines from the contributor guide. | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: if you start as new team, also read https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/ | 19:01 |
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| v1k0d3n | lol | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: btw. what is the name of your team? What are you planning to do? | 19:01 |
| v1k0d3n | that's a LOT of reading to find out how to format our docs. | 19:02 |
| v1k0d3n | openstack-helm | 19:02 |
| v1k0d3n | we have a patchset in already. just as a wip so we can finish a release first. | 19:02 |
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| AJaeger | ah... | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: Thta's not all about formatting of docs, that's the complete wisdom on how OpenStack infrastructure works ;) | 19:02 |
| v1k0d3n | i'm really just wanting to make sure our structure is sane, so when it's imported it's a bit easier. | 19:02 |
| v1k0d3n | well, yeah...like the whole shabang. | 19:03 |
| v1k0d3n | :) | 19:03 |
| v1k0d3n | we've been contributing to openstack for a while. it's just this is the first import with docs i've personally done. | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: for docs building in repos, it's very simple: Docs are in $repo/doc/source, they get build with "python setup.py build_sphinx" and the output is at $repo/doc/build/html | 19:03 |
| v1k0d3n | so was looking at a more narrow scope...just to make sure i have a sane structure. | 19:04 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: that one line is the most narrow definition ;) | 19:04 |
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| v1k0d3n | AJaeger: super helpful! thank you. | 19:11 |
| v1k0d3n | one more question if you don't mind? | 19:11 |
| AJaeger | go for it ;) | 19:12 |
| v1k0d3n | since this is a deployment project, similar to others like openstack-ansible or tripleo, we will have full installation and operator guides, as well as developer guides on how to contribute to the development of the project. | 19:13 |
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| v1k0d3n | are these going to two separate places? as we include both in our docs today. | 19:13 |
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| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: only "Big Tent" projects can publish to docs.openstack.org | 19:13 |
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| v1k0d3n | hmm...so if we want to include deployment guides, do we do that outside of openstack then? i'm confused where to go with that one then. | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | But if you are - see how kolla ansible and ansible do it, see https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/ocata/ for link | 19:14 |
| v1k0d3n | we're not going to be big tent for a little while i don't think. | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: https://readthedocs.org/ is the other option | 19:15 |
| AJaeger | for now put everything in *one* big manual under doc - once you're big tent, we can rearrange and publish separate ones. | 19:15 |
| v1k0d3n | so question then...i thought the last one would be my last...apparently this has legs... :) | 19:16 |
| v1k0d3n | if we're not big tent, can we place docs anywhere? so what i mean is...can i place our install docs in a gh-pages repo? | 19:17 |
| v1k0d3n | at least until we end up going towards big tent? | 19:17 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: readthedocs is the only thing supported by the OpenStack CI infrastructure. You can do anything you want otherwise - but gh-pages won't work with your repo if it's in gerrit | 19:21 |
| v1k0d3n | that gets a big confusing just for docs. | 19:22 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: most other repos just use readthedocs - if they have docs at all | 19:22 |
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| v1k0d3n | well, we're going to need extremely thorough docs. | 19:22 |
| v1k0d3n | just confused by the separation of developer vs operator/installation. | 19:23 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: have one big manual that has separate chapters | 19:23 |
| v1k0d3n | like ours is a format of openstack-helm/docs/ (and in there separate operator, developer, install sections). | 19:23 |
| v1k0d3n | AJaeger: which project ? | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: have a link to it? | 19:24 |
| v1k0d3n | it's in progress as i'm working it out. one sec i'll link my WIP fork. | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | https://docs.openstack.org/developer/ironic/ is one example | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | or https://docs.openstack.org/developer/zun/ (very minimal docs) | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: but those are just examples, nothing enforced here | 19:26 |
| v1k0d3n | https://github.com/v1k0d3n/openstack-helm/tree/docs-openstack-prep/docs | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: btw. our toolchain is using sphinx and RST files. We have projects that don't use RST if you want to stick with markdown. | 19:27 |
| AJaeger | but integrating that is more work | 19:27 |
| v1k0d3n | i've heard that actually...wondering how much impact that would have. | 19:27 |
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| v1k0d3n | sort of a markdown fan myself, but i don't want to make it harder for contributors who update docs. | 19:28 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: you don't need to fix this now, you could just go with it. | 19:29 |
| AJaeger | But if you convert to RST, you could have an index file that just links to your current docs | 19:29 |
| v1k0d3n | really? i want our docs in before import...(as you can see a lot of work), but didn't want to stray too far off course, if that makes sense. | 19:29 |
| AJaeger | btw. looking at your repo: Remove .github, that's not used | 19:30 |
| v1k0d3n | definitely will. | 19:30 |
| v1k0d3n | we won't need those template files. | 19:30 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: you can cleanup after import - your call | 19:30 |
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| v1k0d3n | that was my plan | 19:33 |
| AJaeger | v1k0d3n: hope I could help you a bit, will go offline now. | 19:37 |
| v1k0d3n | you definitely did. thank you AJaeger @ | 19:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: Delete invalid parameters in command example. https://review.openstack.org/448007 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Index options by group too https://review.openstack.org/442622 | 22:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Separate option formatting https://review.openstack.org/443738 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [user] s/operation system/operating system/g https://review.openstack.org/448146 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Make flagmapping optional https://review.openstack.org/442623 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: trivial: Remove 'pass_through' https://review.openstack.org/443739 | 22:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-doc-tools master: Allow overriding of openstack-manuals dir https://review.openstack.org/443740 | 22:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | KATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals master: [install] Changed configuration step for memcached https://review.openstack.org/432842 | 22:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: Disable flagmappings for nova https://review.openstack.org/442639 | 22:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/openstack-manuals master: [config-ref]: update nova config options for stable/ocata https://review.openstack.org/436474 | 22:51 |
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