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openstackgerritBrian Moss proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Install Guide] Update security command output  https://review.openstack.org/38269200:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Install Guide] Update security command output  https://review.openstack.org/38269200:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Fixes command and output of command in admin guide  https://review.openstack.org/37927101:16
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Reordering Content  https://review.openstack.org/38078901:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Reordering Content  https://review.openstack.org/38078901:30
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openstackgerritLana Brindley proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Adding new Release chapter  https://review.openstack.org/38214003:47
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AJaegerloquacities: can we merge this one now, please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380352/ - otherwise the " Newton Installation Tutorial for Debian " is 404 - linked from http://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/newton/05:32
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove links to API complete reference  https://review.openstack.org/38272105:36
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Remove link to API Complete Reference  https://review.openstack.org/38272205:38
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [common] [Newton] Updating links for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38035205:46
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loquacitiesAJaeger: yep06:01
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AJaegerloquacities: ok, then let me double check and +2A06:02
loquacitiescool :)06:02
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [common] [Newton] Updating links for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38035206:07
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openstackgerritDarren Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install guide] Update openstack client command outputs  https://review.openstack.org/38273306:14
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the url info for newton in blueprints-and-specs.rst  https://review.openstack.org/37738606:15
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [ops-guide]Use newton install guide link to replace liberty for cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/37779806:30
AJaegerloquacities, asettle: I removed my -2 from all changes that I blocked, feel free to review - and review your -2s and remove them as well...06:32
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [ops-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37929306:37
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37930006:38
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/training-guides: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38274106:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [ops-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37929306:45
openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] manila's cephfs_native driver doc enhancements  https://review.openstack.org/38105806:45
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Project Install Tutorials: Mention Distros at top  https://review.openstack.org/38274206:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37930006:48
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Project Install Tutorials: Mention Distros at top  https://review.openstack.org/38274206:50
AJaegerloquacities: that index page is too confusing - I just missed to find Ubuntu ;( ^06:50
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38274106:50
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openstackgerritRamana Raja proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] manila's cephfs_native driver doc enhancements  https://review.openstack.org/38105806:58
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Small fixes for Install Guide  https://review.openstack.org/38274606:59
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Small fixes for Install Guide  https://review.openstack.org/38274607:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Use newton install guide link to replase liberty link  https://review.openstack.org/37916707:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install guide] Update openstack client command outputs  https://review.openstack.org/38273307:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [ops-guide]Use newton install guide link to replace liberty for cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/37779807:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37925807:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify the wrong link reference  https://review.openstack.org/37584007:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Modify the wrong link reference  https://review.openstack.org/37867607:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Use Newton link to replace Liberty link  https://review.openstack.org/37869707:17
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [ha-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37927307:18
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openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [ha-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37927307:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Small fixes for Install Guide  https://review.openstack.org/38274607:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [ha-guide] Update links to newton  https://review.openstack.org/37927307:51
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openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Newton] [HA guide] Update links for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38126408:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Change front page for newton  https://review.openstack.org/38251408:23
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Update the dropdown menu for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38252208:25
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loquacitiesAJaeger: back for 20 mins or so08:32
AJaegerloquacities: checked http://docs.openstack.org/ already?08:33
loquacitiesoh, it's up?!08:33
AJaegersince 2 minutes ;)08:33
loquacitiesoh wow08:33
loquacitiesfast!08:33
AJaegerhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/382742/ would be nice to have...08:33
AJaegerAnd have a look at your -2s, please08:34
loquacitiesyep08:34
loquacitiesyeah, 382742 is ok08:34
AJaegerOlena wanted to merge the front page a bit earlier...08:34
loquacitiesi'll +2A08:34
loquacitieshuh, ok08:35
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AJaegerAnd I agreed - let's get it out so that we can test everything ;)08:35
loquacitiesoh, i just saw you're not well, sorry to hear that :(08:35
AJaegerthanks08:36
AJaegerregarding 382742: I hope somebody can do this even better, that was a quick win ;)08:38
loquacitiesyeah, it needs work08:38
loquacitiesthat index page is my #1 priority for ocata, at this stage :)08:38
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AJaeger;)08:39
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Project Install Tutorials: Mention Distros at top  https://review.openstack.org/38274208:39
loquacitiesso, i have:08:41
loquacitieshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381258/08:41
loquacitieshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381000/08:41
loquacitieshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381403/08:41
loquacitieshave i missed any?08:42
asettleloquacities: IM HERE08:42
asettleSORRY08:42
loquacitieshi!08:43
loquacitiesit's all good, i have to disappear in a bit to take T to scouts, anyway08:43
asettleThis whole 'get up and have your hair washed by the time you get into the office thing' is surprisingly difficult08:43
asettleOkay, rad. I'll be around. About to check in on all the release notes.08:43
loquacitiesi'm just locating all myy -2s right now08:43
asettleAJaeger or loquacities - did either of you see release notes from Sam-I-Am ?08:43
loquacitiesoh, i saw a couple of relnotes patches08:44
loquacitiesi haven't done that  proofread either, bugger08:44
AJaegerasettle: no, haven't ;(08:44
loquacitiesnot from matt, though, sorry08:45
asettleBummer. Might have to do that ourselves then.08:45
loquacitiesi'm not  sure there are significant changes in that guide08:45
asettleThat's the only one we're waiting on. I got the others in late yesterday. Nathaniel messaged me and send me the stuff which was ace08:45
loquacitiesother than matt's patch that he hasn't  landed yet08:45
asettleyeah, that was my concern mostly08:45
asettleIs that going to get in before the release?08:45
AJaegerwe publish release notes continously, so can still update later on...08:45
AJaegernot nice and perfect ;(08:45
asettleSad face :(08:46
asettleWE TRIED GUYS08:46
asettleWE TRIED08:46
AJaegerasettle: check docs.openstack.org and see the new NEWTON page08:46
loquacitiesyeah, olena got it up early!08:46
asettleI know!08:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [networking] [newton] Update links to Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38100008:46
asettleExciting!08:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Newton] [contributor guide] Update links for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38125808:46
asettleAlso AJaeger just saw your message :( sucks dude, hope you feel better soon!08:47
AJaegerthanks, asettle . Already a bit but will now take a break. Will be back for the meeting in 70 mins...08:47
asettleOkay :) sounds good. I'm going to go find my -2's if I have any08:48
loquacitiesi can't find matt's patch?08:48
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/36769108:48
asettleTHis one?08:48
loquacitiesah!08:48
loquacitiesthat'd be the one08:48
loquacitiesok, definitely not ready then08:49
loquacities(why couldn't  i find that?!)08:49
asettleHahaha sometimes they get lost in the ether08:49
loquacitiesit's true08:50
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asettleHere's a few more we mgiht be able to pass now: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/373731/08:51
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/350851/08:51
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/376019/08:51
asettlehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/365203/08:52
asettleI admittedly have +2'd them, but they need verification outside of my opinions. Most of them are networking which is not an area I feel 100% passing stuff in08:52
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] update link to Config Reference  https://review.openstack.org/38140308:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Use newton  config-reference link to replase liberty link  https://review.openstack.org/37907608:53
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Network guide] Fix non-existent link url  https://review.openstack.org/38134808:53
loquacitiesok, i have to fly08:57
loquacitiesshould be back in 15-20 mins08:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Remove link to API Complete Reference  https://review.openstack.org/38272209:04
asettleOkay loquacities :)09:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: vxlan content modified  https://review.openstack.org/38139209:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove links to API complete reference  https://review.openstack.org/38272109:06
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] manila's cephfs_native driver doc enhancements  https://review.openstack.org/38105809:08
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38279809:22
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loquacitiesso we still don't really have any debian testing complete09:27
loquacitiesthe others are ok09:27
loquacitieshaving said that, zigo has gotten some patches in to the guide, it's just not tested09:29
asettleBugger.09:29
zigoI'll be working on this after the release, as I wrote.09:29
loquacitiesoh hi zigo09:29
asettlezigo: whatcha doing up?09:30
zigoThough having a quick look, I can tell it's in an ok-ish form.09:30
loquacitieswhat if we delay publishing just until we cut the branch?09:30
zigoasettle: Preparing the upload of Newton to Sid ATM.09:30
loquacitiesthat gives us an  extra 3-4 weeks to get it completed09:30
zigoIn total, 237 package uploads ...09:30
zigo:)09:30
asettleI bet you're oodles of fun at a party, zigo :p09:30
asettleSounds like a blast.09:30
asettleloquacities: I like that idea, but it's not up to me.09:30
zigoIt's mostly tackled.09:30
loquacitiesasettle: like you can talk :P09:30
asettleExcuse me, while I was doing release notes last night I was also watching Bob's Burger's with scotch ... I know how to rock it09:31
loquacitiesit's all party, all the time09:31
asettle(oh my god this is what life is like now i'm 25)09:31
* asettle screams09:31
loquacitieshey, i just realised today that i turn 36 in exactly a month09:31
loquacitiesi'd been thinking i was turning  3509:31
asettleBIRTHDAY PARTY!09:31
loquacitiesmy own brain has sabotaged me09:31
asettleHahhaha worst!09:32
asettleYeah, cause we're exactly 9 years apart :)09:32
asettle"exactly" meh, a month.,09:32
loquacitiesheh09:32
loquacitiesso,  zigo, while you're here, are you ok with that plan?09:32
zigoloquacities: Sorry, but what's the plan?09:33
loquacitiesdelay publishing just until we cut the branch?09:33
loquacitiesthat gives us an  extra 3-4 weeks to get it completed09:33
zigoI am happy if I can continue to push stuff to master for the next 3/4 weeks without having to backport later indeed.09:34
zigoOh, my horizon install-guide patch went through! :)09:34
zigoMarking it as ok then.09:34
loquacitiesyou won't need to backport until after the branch is cut regardless09:35
loquacitiesi'm just buying some testing time09:35
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asettleloquacities: have either yourself, AJaeger or Olena updated the .htaccess?09:36
loquacitiesasettle: i haven't09:36
asettleNope, nevermind, just checked the file myself09:36
asettleI'll do that now09:36
loquacitiesoh, also, has kato done the config/cli ref scripts?09:36
zigoloquacities: I also am happy with the delay, so this gives me time to upload to jessie-backports official, and document that bit.09:37
asettleUmmm doesn't look like it.09:37
loquacitieszigo: ok, cool09:37
loquacitiesAJaeger: we'll need to take debian out for now09:37
loquacitiesdamn, i really wish olena hadn't published the index page so early09:37
loquacitiesi feel like everything is a bit arse-backwards now09:38
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] update .htaccess to redirect to Newton docs  https://review.openstack.org/38280609:39
asettleloquacities: ^^^09:39
loquacitieson it09:40
loquacitiesi'm just emailing  kato09:40
asettleGood plan :)09:40
loquacitieshe's been approving patches, but he's not on irc09:40
asettleYeah I know, I haven't seen him on IRC in days. Where he hidin'!09:40
AJaegerloquacities: no worries, we can take Debian easily out...09:41
loquacitieshe doesn't sit on  irc much these days09:41
loquacitiesAJaeger: thanks09:41
loquacitiesand debconf09:41
AJaegerthat one was published ages ago...09:41
* AJaeger is on it09:42
loquacitiesyeah, i asked olena to assume we were publishing it09:42
loquacitiesand then we'd make the decision today09:42
openstackgerritThomas Goirand proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Fix Keystone install for Debian  https://review.openstack.org/38280809:43
zigoloquacities: AJaeger: ^ Any thoughts on this new patch? :)09:43
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zigoWith it, I believe I can set the Identity chapter as OK.09:44
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loquacitiescya o/09:45
asettleLunch!?09:45
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Do not show Debian for now in Newton Install Index  https://review.openstack.org/38280909:45
loquacitiesyeah, he's 2-3 hours ahead of you, i think09:45
AJaegerloquacities: change is above - but I need to review it first ^09:47
loquacitiesyep09:47
loquacitieslgtm, anyway09:47
asettleloquacities: ah we're not doing a hangout in 10 minutes?09:49
asettleI put on my best onesie.09:49
loquacitiesheh, no just irc ;)09:49
loquacitiesi just wanted to make sure we were all here together so we can tick things off09:49
asettleYep, cool :)09:50
asettleThe only thing left that I can see is: 5. Update the sitemap.xml files for docs.openstack.org and developer.openstack.org.09:50
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asettleI can do that too09:50
loquacitieswe're ahead of schedule :P09:50
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asettleSO FAST09:52
asettleSO SMOOTH09:52
asettleRELEASE GOOD09:52
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [sitemap] Updating sitemap.xml for newton release  https://review.openstack.org/38281209:52
asettleTa da09:52
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Do not show Debian for now in Newton Install Index  https://review.openstack.org/38280909:53
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281309:53
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281409:53
AJaegerasettle: thanks for generating the sitemap09:53
asettleNo sweat09:53
AJaeger382809 should be fine now09:53
asettleCool, +2 from me09:54
asettleAJaeger:  https://review.openstack.org/38280609:54
asettleThat's the .htaccess09:54
loquacities*sigh*09:55
loquacitiesthe relnotes are out of order again09:55
asettleOH man09:55
asettleI just got that in order.09:55
loquacitiesi've got it09:55
asettleloquacities: give me... okay :)09:55
asettleOh, whoops, you know what, that was me. I put the security before the operations guide *head desk*09:56
asettleSorry09:56
asettleThe alphabet is apparently not my strong suit.09:56
AJaegerasettle: you changed a bit too much ;)09:57
asettleAJaeger: oops09:57
AJaegerthe mitaka config reference got updated after publishing and thus we needed those links changed09:57
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AJaegerBut no need to rename those for newton09:57
ologvinova_o/09:57
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asettleAJaeger: adjusting now, two seconds :)09:58
asettleologvinova_: morning!09:58
AJaegerloquacities, asettle Do you want to hide Debian install guide and redirect away from it - or leave it acessible09:58
AJaegerhi ologvinova_ !09:58
ologvinova_hi everyone!09:58
asettleHmmm I thought leaving it accessible would still be beneficial. But that's more loquacities call than my own.09:58
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] update .htaccess to redirect to Newton docs  https://review.openstack.org/38280609:59
AJaegerso, let's leave the mitaka/install-guide as well09:59
loquacitiesAJaeger: let's leave it09:59
loquacitieswe'll just make it non-obvious09:59
asettleAJaeger: could you check that now?09:59
AJaegerlooks great, asettle !10:00
openstackgerritLana Brindley proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Final proofread of relnotes  https://review.openstack.org/38281910:00
asettleMy find and replace skills are seriously unparalleled.10:00
loquacitiesthey're pretty impressive ;)10:00
asettle"how good are you at ctrl+f"10:00
asettle"Well I cannot even begin to describe..."10:00
loquacitiesyou should put that on your resume10:00
asettleYou know what, I might. Would you give me a reference loquacities ?10:01
loquacitiessure10:01
loquacities"can ctrl-f with the best of them"10:01
asettle"can grep like nobody's business"10:01
loquacitieslol10:01
AJaegerasettle: how did you update the sitemap.xml file?10:01
AJaegerctrl-f?10:02
asettleCrud it won't open, yes. But I don't believe it's correct.10:02
AJaegerWe need to regenerate from scratch - with the tool in openstack-doc-tools10:02
asettleOh rats. Okay, can do.10:02
asettleLemme abandon that one.10:03
asettleLearning, learning.10:03
asettleOkay, got it all :) hopefully will be able to do now.10:04
asettleStay tuned.10:04
asettleScrapy?!10:06
* asettle lols forever10:06
loquacitiesologvinova_: you here?10:06
ologvinova_yup10:06
loquacitieshi!10:06
ologvinova_heeey))10:06
loquacitiesso, with the debian guides, they're not tested enough10:07
loquacitiesso we're buying some testing time, and we'll attempt to publish them when we branch10:07
ologvinova_both guides?10:07
loquacitiesi just chatted to zigo about it a little while ago10:07
loquacitiesyep, debian and debconf10:07
AJaegerloquacities: they are published, we just removed the links to it...10:07
loquacitiesyeah10:07
ologvinova_I see10:08
ologvinova_but should they be accessible from http://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/newton?10:08
asettleHm, AJaeger the crawl command doesn't seem to work.10:09
loquacitiesno10:09
loquacitiesaccessible with direct link only, i think?10:09
AJaegerasettle: what's your command line?10:09
loquacitiesoh, relnotes patch is here, everyone: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382819/10:10
-asettle- Available commands:10:10
-asettle- bench Run quick benchmark test10:10
-asettle- commands10:10
-asettle- fetch Fetch a URL using the Scrapy downloader10:10
-asettle- genspider Generate new spider using pre-defined templates10:10
-asettle- runspider Run a self-contained spider (without creating a project)10:10
-asettle- settings Get settings values10:10
-asettle- shell Interactive scraping console10:10
-asettle- startproject Create new project10:10
-asettle- version Print Scrapy version10:10
-asettle- view Open URL in browser, as seen by Scrapy10:10
-asettle- [ more ] More commands available when run from project directory10:10
asettlecrawl isn't available :/10:10
asettleI've got scrapy 1.2010:10
AJaegerasettle: let me check...10:10
asettleThansk AJaeger10:10
asettleAnd thanks for the patch loquacities sorry about my bad alphabeting10:11
loquacitieslol, it's cool10:11
openstackgerritabdul nizamuddin proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Added API Endpoint verification and Image service verification  https://review.openstack.org/37490010:11
loquacitiesnoticed some other stuff while i was there10:11
asettleI saw that, some good catches :)10:11
asettleAJaeger: the docs still seem to think I can use crawl: https://doc.scrapy.org/en/latest/topics/commands.html#using-the-scrapy-tool10:11
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AJaegerberendt: any time for scrapy help?10:12
* AJaeger tries installing an older version10:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38279810:12
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asettleAJaeger: noticed the same thing?10:12
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Do not show Debian for now in Newton Install Index  https://review.openstack.org/38280910:12
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asettleOkay, so, the list I gave you is the global commands, the project-only commands have crawl listed.10:12
asettleLooks like you have to start the project and generate it, and then you can craw10:13
asettlecrawl*10:13
asettleI can try that AJaeger ?10:13
AJaegerasettle: yeah, have problems, let me dig into that10:13
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openstackgerritItxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update opensuse version from 42.1 to 42.2  https://review.openstack.org/38282410:13
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asettleOkay, I'll try the docs on my local and see if I can generate it10:13
ologvinova_Are we merging Final proofread of relnotes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382819?10:14
loquacitiesplease10:14
loquacitiesif it's ok10:14
ologvinova_LGTM10:15
loquacitiescool10:15
loquacitiesthanks :)10:15
asettleHmm no, following the docs still leads me to 'crawl' not existing.10:16
AJaegerasettle: yeah, this looks tricky ;(10:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Final proofread of relnotes  https://review.openstack.org/38281910:19
asettleHmmm who has done this previously?10:20
loquacitiesi think AJaeger has always done it previously10:20
asettleI've literally crawled through the docs for crawl and everything leads me to a dead end. I wonder if they've removed the crawl function10:20
AJaegerI've done it in the past - following the documentation -and now it does not work10:21
asettleOkay, so I'm not going crazy. That's good to know.10:21
asettleAJaeger: will it work if we do it manually?10:21
asettleI know that's not the best option10:21
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AJaegerthis is a hint for google - we can release without it. But it's bad ;(10:24
asettleRuh rohhhhh10:24
asettleEverything was much too smooth.10:24
asettleOkay, well, AJaeger what if we release now and fix the issue throughout the week? I mean, it won't be the best option but at least the sitemap would be technically correct.10:25
asettleI'm sure we can still use scrapy, we just have to figure out what functions to now use.10:25
asettleOr, file a bug10:25
AJaegeryes, we can fix through the week...10:27
loquacitiesis manually changing it not an option?10:27
AJaegergive me 5 more mins and then I'll write an email10:27
asettleAJaeger: okay :)10:27
AJaegerloquacities: no10:27
loquacitiesok10:27
asettleAJaeger: anything I can do??10:27
loquacitiesso, as far as i can see, the only things left to do are the config/cli ref scripts, and the sitemap10:28
loquacitiesam i missing anything?10:28
asettleYeah, we're on good target. I think tha'ts it.10:28
asettleOh, networking release notes.10:28
asettleI'll chase Matt up for those today if he's around.10:28
loquacitiesah, yes10:28
loquacitiesit's super early in colorado still10:28
loquacitiesyou might be able to catch him in a few hours10:29
* AJaeger gives up10:29
loquacitiesi'm a little concerned we haven't heard from katomo10:29
ologvinova_but he was merging patches in the morning10:30
asettleAJaeger: that was fast.10:30
loquacitiesyeah, he was around only an hour or so ago, judging by gerrit10:30
loquacitiesbut no response to email10:30
ologvinova_yup, strange10:30
loquacitiesthat's ok, even if that trails by 24 hours or so, it's not a biggy10:31
asettleOkay, the only thing to worry about is the sitemap10:31
asettleWhich AJaeger gave up on.10:31
loquacitiesyeah, i think so10:31
asettleIs berendt around to help?10:31
AJaegermail sent10:31
AJaegerhope berendt is able to help...10:32
asettleAJaeger: to the scrapy people or berendt?10:32
asettleloquacities or ologvinova_ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382806/10:32
AJaegeropenstack-docs mailing list10:32
loquacitiesheh, i'm just drafting an email to the list myself ;)10:32
ologvinova_asettle: merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382806/10:32
asettleAJaeger: so, we're definitely not missing a weird element>10:32
loquacitiesthe htaccess patch is good to go?10:32
asettleThanks ologvinova_10:32
AJaegerasettle: crawl needs changing to runspider - but then it stilldoes not work10:33
asettleAndresa +2 it10:33
asettleAJaeger: yeah I treid that too10:33
asettleAndreas*10:33
asettletried*10:33
asettleGood, good typing10:33
AJaegerSo, let's hope somebody can help...10:33
loquacitiesheh, ologvinova_ beat me ;)10:34
asettleAJaeger: might be also good if you send that email to the dev list10:34
ologvinova_loquacities:  loool =)10:34
AJaegerasettle: let's wait a bit first - but good idea, thanks10:34
asettleAlso, I love that our barrier to entry is "is it ready?" "Aj +2'd it!"10:35
asettleAJaeger:  *10:35
AJaeger;)10:35
asettleAJaeger: no worries. I'll keep looking and see what i can find.10:35
loquacitiesheh, that's pretty much how i do all the docs-tools reviews  :P10:37
asettleloquacities: "oh good, someone who knows what they're doing +2 to you"10:39
loquacities:D10:39
AJaegerI think it's time to #success - loquacities to you want to do it?10:39
loquacitiesi can't remember the syntax10:40
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] update .htaccess to redirect to Newton docs  https://review.openstack.org/38280610:40
loquacitiesyou start with the hashtag?10:40
AJaegerYes, exactly - and then some lines behind it. Try it ;)10:41
loquacities#success Newton docs are live on docs.openstack.org! Way to go docs team \o/10:41
openstackstatusloquacities: Added success to Success page10:42
AJaegerit worked ;)10:42
loquacitieshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Successes10:42
loquacitiesyay  :)10:42
AJaegerhave you done some quick checks on docs.o.o? Everything looking fine?10:42
AJaegerthen let's call it a day - and party ;)10:42
loquacitiesyeah, it seems good to me10:42
ologvinova_everything looks pretty nice for me10:43
loquacitiesi'm just writing this email to docs with the three things left to do10:43
ologvinova_yeeeey, let's party10:43
asettleWOO10:43
asettleSorry10:43
asettleLate to that party10:43
loquacities\o/10:43
asettleDefending my honour in another channel10:43
asettleYay :D10:44
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asettleLove your stuff people10:44
asettleOh, Olena be out10:44
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asettleAJaeger: FOUND CRAWL10:45
asettleFOUND IT10:45
AJaegerloquacities: I missed your comments regarding kato - I don't think anything needs to be done for config ref and cli, those have been generated in the last 7 days and should be fine.10:45
AJaegerasettle: wowowowo10:45
loquacitiesoh, they have?10:45
AJaegerloquacities: yeah...10:46
loquacitieshuh, i missed that10:46
asettleAJaeger: well, I found the command, I would like to announce htat it is now failing for other reasons.10:46
AJaegerand there were no changed for these in the last 7 days10:46
AJaegerasettle: ;(10:46
asettleAJaeger: I"ll keep working at it :)10:46
loquacitiesok, so it's just the sitemap and the networking guide relnotes10:46
AJaegerloquacities: yes10:46
loquacitiesyay!10:46
loquacitiesthat makes me happier :)10:46
AJaeger;)10:46
asettleYep, I'll chase up Matt for those notes today if there are any. If not, I'll just go look at the logs or something. Because #lovelogs10:47
asettleIn the mean time, now I've found crawl, I'll try and make this happen10:47
loquacitiescool10:50
loquacitieshopefully you can find the incantation10:51
loquacitiesalright, i'm out too everyone10:52
loquacitiesthanks a bunch! i owe you all a drink in barcelona :D10:52
ologvinova_loool, cheers everyone!10:53
AJaegerhave a nice evening, loquacities10:54
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asettleloquacities: adios o/10:55
asettleOkay, let's boogie people. We can make this sitemap happy10:55
asettlehappen*(10:55
asettleor happy, either way10:55
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asettleAJaeger: so, have you seen this error before "ImportError: No module named sitemap.generator"11:04
asettleI've been looking all over stackoverflow etc, but I cannot seem to fix the error. Something something python11:04
asettlehttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/10570635/scrapy-importerror-no-module-named-items11:04
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AJaegerasettle: that's whatI got and got stuck ;(11:06
asettleYeah lame ... okay.11:07
berendtAJaeger ping ;)11:07
asettleAt least scrapy -l is returning the crawl command now11:07
AJaegerberendt: glad to have you with us11:07
asettleGo figure11:07
asettleberendt: OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN11:07
berendtasettle lunch time ;)11:07
asettle...11:07
AJaegerasettle and myself are unable to use scrappy to generate the sitemap ;(11:07
AJaegerThe newer versions of scrappy don't work anymore11:07
asettleHow very dare you live your own life.11:07
asettle:p11:07
AJaegerI went back as far as 1.0.6 (latest I could get) and still get an ImportError (se assettle from 5 mins ago).11:08
asettleberendt: if you scroll up, that's more or less a summary of hte issue. We both get stuck at "Import Errror"11:08
berendtok.. i will check this11:08
AJaegerscrapy crawl does not exist in 1.2.0 anymore...11:08
asettleThanks berendt :)11:08
berendtis there a bug report?11:08
AJaegerberendt: no bug yet...11:08
AJaegerberendt: the README did not help us to do this ;(11:08
asettleAJaeger: does exist -11:09
-asettle- Available commands:11:09
-asettle- bench Run quick benchmark test11:09
-asettle- check Check spider contracts11:09
-asettle- commands11:09
-asettle- crawl Run a spider11:09
asettleThat much I found.11:09
* AJaeger gives up for now...11:09
berendtok i will fix the crawler itself and will improve the readme file when the crawler is working again11:09
asettleberendt: you are amazing, anyone told you that today?11:10
AJaegerthanks a lot, berendt !11:10
asettleAJaeger: you should probably go to bed :)11:10
berendtasettle not yet, thank you :)11:10
asettleberendt: most welcome!11:10
AJaegerwill try now ;)11:10
AJaegerbbl11:10
AJaegerthanks everybody!11:10
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asettleberendt: let me know if I can help in anyway, I've been sitting on stackoverflow for a while now11:15
openstackgerritAllen proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Use Newton install guide link to replace Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/38285411:16
berendtasettle give me a few minutes, i will have to setup a test system first11:17
asettleberendt: no sweat11:17
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] remove nova config changes for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38286011:24
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berendt2016-10-06 11:31:06 [scrapy] INFO: Crawled 1880 pages (at 1880 pages/min), scraped 1849 items (at 1849 items/min)11:31
berendtlooks good11:31
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asettleberendt: but how?!11:32
asettleI would genuinely like to know11:32
asettleDid we miss something?11:32
berendtpreparing the patch...11:32
asettleberendt: what was the step?11:35
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Move SitemapItem class into generator.spiders.sitemap_file  https://review.openstack.org/38286811:35
berendti moved this class to an other package, this works for me11:36
berendtasettle can you test it...11:36
asettleYep, gimme one second berendt :)11:36
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asettleberendt: sorry, what do you need me to do exactly?11:37
berendtcheckout the change and re-run the crawler on your environment11:38
berendtor has AJ tested on his local system ?11:38
asettleWill do11:38
asettle2016-10-06 12:39:09 [scrapy] INFO: Spider closed (finished)11:39
asettleHm, I mean, it ran, but it did not give me the same output11:39
berendtI forgot something11:41
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Move SitemapItem class into generator.spiders.sitemap_file  https://review.openstack.org/38286811:41
asettleberendt: will test again11:41
asettleWoo, this is looking more positive11:42
berendtspider is crawling now?11:42
asettleLooks like it :D11:42
asettleSpider oepned... and paused while crawling.11:42
-asettle- 2016-10-06 12:41:46 [scrapy] INFO: Spider opened11:42
-asettle- 2016-10-06 12:41:46 [scrapy] INFO: Crawled 0 pages (at 0 pages/min), scraped 0 items (at 0 items/min)11:42
asettleBut obviously just started, so, let's wait to see this goes properly11:42
berendtwait a few seconds...11:42
berendtyour are to impatient :)11:43
asettleberendt: tell me about it :p11:44
asettleApparently it's a generational problem :p11:44
berendtyes exactly :)11:45
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berendtlast time i used the crawler it took around ten minutes11:47
openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Move SitemapItem class into generator.spiders.sitemap_file  https://review.openstack.org/38286811:49
berendtlessons learned: i before l...11:50
asettleberendt: yeah it seemed to fail on me again.11:50
asettleI'll run a test while I"m at lunch if you're okay with that?11:50
berendtno, please skip your lunch ;)11:51
asettleHahaha awww :(11:51
asettleOkay, spidey opened again11:51
asettleBrb :)11:52
berendtenjoy your lunch11:52
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Improve the README file of the sitemap generator  https://review.openstack.org/38288011:58
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asettleberendt: running :) all good12:16
asettle+2'd both patches as they work for me.12:17
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berendtAJaeger around?12:20
asettleberendt: he's actually off sick. But he will be back in later.12:20
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asettleberendt: I get the same error here:12:22
asettle2016-10-06 13:22:25 [scrapy] ERROR: Error downloading <GET https://docs.openstack.org/developer/castellan/>: Connection was refused by other side: 61: Connection refused.12:22
berendtasettle have you tried to open this page in your browser?12:23
asettleThis site can’t be reached12:23
asettledocs.openstack.org refused to conenct12:23
asettleconnect*12:23
berendtthis means we link to this page somewhere and the crawler cannot reach the page12:23
asettleRight, I see.12:23
AJaegerah, https - that's wrong12:23
* AJaeger just reads backscroll...12:23
AJaegerberendt: thanks!12:23
berendtthat's fine because we only had 1 error12:23
asettleOtherwise, everything ran berendt :)12:24
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Fix wrong https link  https://review.openstack.org/38290212:25
berendtlet's fix the wrong url12:25
AJaegernot worth fixing all the wrong URLs - with AFS publishing, I hope we get https soon.12:26
AJaegerhttp://docs-beta.openstack.org/ is life ;)12:26
berendthttps://review.openstack.org/38290312:27
berendttoo late12:27
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asettleOkay, we good with both of those links?12:27
AJaegerberendt: go ahead with it - but note there are more...12:28
berendtthat's the only one the crawler found on my site12:28
Sam-I-Ammoo.12:28
asettleYeah, same12:28
asettleMorning Sam-I-Am12:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Improve the README file of the sitemap generator  https://review.openstack.org/38288012:29
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281312:30
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281412:30
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Correct the "openstack flavor create" command  https://review.openstack.org/38290512:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Move SitemapItem class into generator.spiders.sitemap_file  https://review.openstack.org/38286812:31
Sam-I-Amso, trying this release note thing12:33
Sam-I-Amwe dont have a tox env with reno12:33
asettleSam-I-Am: if you're just updating the release notes with the title, and a few dot points, I don't see why you need to run tox.12:33
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Mitaka is an old release now  https://review.openstack.org/38290712:33
AJaegerSam-I-Am: tox -e releasenotes12:34
asettleWe are also not using reno for the doc release notes12:34
AJaegerasettle: 382907  is a nice to have to - but not really needed. But in case you regenerate the sitemap again, please include it.12:34
Sam-I-Amasettle: so where am i making these12:35
asettleAJaeger: will do12:35
AJaegerSam-I-Am: releasenotes directory ;)12:35
Sam-I-Amso they are reno?12:35
asettleSam-I-Am: releasenotes/source/newton.rst12:35
AJaegerreleasenotes/source/newton.rst12:35
asettleSam-I-Am: no12:35
asettleIn your openstack-manuals directory12:35
AJaegerSam-I-Am: No, we don#t use reno for that, we have a single file...12:35
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: mmkay, now i remember. for some reason i saw something about us using reno.12:36
asettleberendt: have you built the sitemap by any chance, or shall I do it?12:36
asettleSam-I-Am: discussion on the cards. Devs all use it :)12:36
asettleJust not us.12:36
AJaegerBut we use the reno infrastructure for publishing and building12:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281312:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/38281412:37
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Fix wrong https link  https://review.openstack.org/38290212:39
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Correct the "openstack flavor create" command  https://review.openstack.org/38290512:40
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [relnotes] [networking] Release notes for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38291812:47
asettleThanks Sam-I-Am :)12:48
Sam-I-Amthats what i could find12:49
Sam-I-Amnow i need to get back to work on the net guide bigpatch12:49
asettleThat's great :)12:49
Sam-I-Amwhich, if you haven't seen, is huge12:49
asettleI've got two comments, but they're minor12:49
asettleAnd up to you12:49
asettleYeah can't avoid it12:49
asettleAlthough, I am, haha12:49
Sam-I-Amdont think i agree with the first one12:51
Sam-I-Amsecond one... hmmm12:51
asettleSam-I-Am: as I said, up to you12:51
Sam-I-Ami could make that better12:51
asettleYeah, the -1 was for the second one more12:51
asettleIt would improve clarity, I feel12:51
asettleIt would be helpful, anyway12:51
asettleAJaeger: would you like this to be merged now, or after the sitemap: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382907/112:54
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [relnotes] [networking] Release notes for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38291812:55
asettleSam-I-Am: like it :) much better.12:55
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Sam-I-Amwoot12:57
Sam-I-Amand now back to our regularly scheduled patch that i cant ever seem to complete12:57
asettleHahha enjoy12:57
asettleAJaeger and berendt successfully crawling sitemap now :D12:59
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: neutron: MTU is now re-calculated for existing networks  https://review.openstack.org/36282213:08
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openstackgerritShashi proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Doc] Added nova-manage to ops-lay-of-the-land.rst  https://review.openstack.org/38293313:13
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add a "private" to cli-manage-flavors.rst  https://review.openstack.org/38293413:14
asettleAJaeger: do the site map proposal challenges patch to openstack-doc-tools?13:17
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Add a "private" to cli-manage-flavors.rst  https://review.openstack.org/38293413:18
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [networking] Migrate FWaaS docs from admin to networking guide  https://review.openstack.org/36633113:21
openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [relnotes] [networking] Release notes for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38291813:22
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raroraHas anyone run into the error "'module' object is not iterable" when trying to run the autohelp-wrapper update tool in the openstack-doc-tools repo?13:25
raroraI am trying to update the neutron docs but can't figure out what is going wrong.13:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [relnotes] [networking] Release notes for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38291813:34
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openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide] Correct the output of "nova secgroup-list"  https://review.openstack.org/38297714:09
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AJaegerasettle: sitemap.xml lives in openstack-manuals/www/static/14:17
asettleAJaeger: yes, I've been trying to figure it out for a while, I have admittedly conceded defeat. I have definitely done something wrong along the way. I can generate the sitemap, in the *wrong* repo14:18
AJaegergenerate it - and then copy over the file14:18
openstackgerritItxaka Serrano Garcia proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update opensuse version from 42.1 to 42.2  https://review.openstack.org/38298314:18
asettleOh.14:19
asettleThat's it?!14:19
asettleCopy the file into the pre-existing sitemap.xml and just patch it up?14:19
asettleMan I feel like a dorkus14:19
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Mitaka is an old release now  https://review.openstack.org/38290714:20
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Update sitemap for newton  https://review.openstack.org/38298514:22
asettleAJaeger and ologvinova_ ^^^^14:22
asettleI think tha'ts right14:22
ologvinova_asettle: thanks, on it14:23
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AJaegerasettle: looks good. Now also the api-site, please14:25
asettleOh off14:25
asettleOkay14:25
asettleoof*14:25
asettleThat's this one, yes?14:25
asettlescrapy crawl sitemap -a domain=developer.openstack.org -a urls="http://developer.openstack.org/de/api-guide/quick-start/"14:25
asettleNo, sorry14:25
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AJaegeryes, looks like it14:26
berendt-a domain=developer.openstack.org -- this means only results from developer.openstack.org will be added to the generated file14:27
berendt-a urls="http://developer.openstack.org/de/api-guide/quick-start/" -- this means also use http://developer.openstack.org/de/api-guide/quick-start/ as entrypoint14:27
asettleOh right.14:27
asettleSo.14:27
asettleThe full developer website14:27
asettle$ scrapy crawl sitemap -a domain=developer.openstack.org14:27
berendtthis should crawl whole developer.openstack.14:28
asettleIs that what we want?14:28
berendti think so14:28
asettlehttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-doc-tools/tree/master/sitemap14:28
asettleSeems to say so here14:28
asettleOkay, cool.14:28
asettleI can gen that14:28
asettleThat'll produce a new file, and then that gets copied into the developer.openstack.org sitemap?14:28
berendtyes14:28
asettleCool, building now.14:28
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asettleberendt: this sitemap? https://github.com/openstack/api-site/blob/master/www/static/sitemap.xml14:29
berendtit will generate sitemap_developer.openstack.org.xml14:29
asettleyep14:29
berendtthis file has to be placed at https://github.com/openstack/api-site/blob/master/www/static/sitemap.xml14:29
asettleCool, on the right page :)14:30
berendtmaybe it makes sense to document our procedure to update the files in the readme file14:30
berendtyou also should add blacklist entries for stackalytics after the merge of the changes14:30
asettleberendt: I would definitely say so, happy to do that after this experience.14:30
asettleHmm so, with the developer site I'm getting this:14:30
-asettle- 2016-10-06 15:30:14 [scrapy] INFO: Crawled 0 pages (at 0 pages/min), scraped 0 items (at 0 items/min)14:30
-asettle- 2016-10-06 15:30:28 [scrapy] INFO: Closing spider (finished)14:30
berendtwill test this14:31
asettleThanks berendt14:31
ologvinova_asettle: merging https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382985 and adding the link to etherpad as an example for future releases! :D14:31
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asettleologvinova_: good idea :)14:31
berendtasettle i think we have to add some more entrypoints for developer.openstack.org to crawl all pages14:32
asettleOkay.14:32
asettleHold up, lemme give this another go, I just recognised my own error14:33
asettleLet's see if this works14:33
asettleNope, same again.14:33
asettleberendt: what's the next step?14:33
berendtyou get a file, but it is not that big14:33
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [networking] Migrate FWaaS docs from admin to networking guide  https://review.openstack.org/36633114:34
berendtdo we have an index page for all projects hosted on developer.o.o?14:34
asettleUmm14:34
asettleYes?14:34
berendtno, they are hosted at http://docs.openstack.org/developer14:34
berendthave you check the generated file? maybe it is complete?14:35
berendtthe current file in the api-site repo is pretty small14:35
asettleThe dev output is huge14:35
asettleBut it appears to have all the right dates etc14:35
berendt259 locations are listed in the file for developer.o.o14:36
berendtcan we check how many files we host for developer.o.o?14:36
asettleI admit to having no idea how to help there. My file generates, but still says it crawls 0 pages. It's a large file.14:37
AJaegerberendt: developer.o.o is smaller.14:37
AJaegerlet me ask quickly...14:37
berendtasettle you have to check 2016-10-06 14:38:10 [scrapy] INFO: Dumping Scrapy stats:14:38
berendtasettle  'item_scraped_count': 259,14:38
berendtthis is the number of items in the generated file14:38
asettle'item_scraped_count': 262,14:39
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berendtthis means that at least http://developer.openstack.org/de/api-guide/quick-start/ is not linked on developer.o.o14:40
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AJaeger346 files is what we have published right now on the new side.14:41
AJaegerI think we need some additional entry points - besides de, also ja and ko_KR14:41
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AJaegerand then id, zh_CN14:42
AJaegercorrect, the translated documents are only available from docs.openstack.org/LANG - that's why we need those extra entry points14:43
AJaegerNote that we reorganized the complete content compared to last release14:44
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berendti thought http://developer.openstack.org/de/api-guide/quick-start/ is german..?14:46
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AJaegerbtw. we also have draft guides in those 346 files...14:47
asettleSo, what's the call? I'm happy to let someone else take over the sitemap for developer.o.o14:48
asettleSounds like it's a bit more confusing.14:48
AJaegerberendt: OOps ;(14:48
asettleAnd requires more experience.14:48
berendtasettle we transfer the experience to you ;)14:48
asettleDo you really think that's a good idea berendt ?: P14:48
asettle:P *14:48
AJaegerberendt: German has been removed, ignore it.14:49
* AJaeger fixes publishing14:49
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berendtAJaeger ok14:49
AJaegerthere's no german po file anymore14:49
berendtasettle maybe.. ;)14:49
asettleberendt: oh man, the pressure!14:49
asettleI'm fairly sure last time we caught up it was ME giving YOU delegations :P14:49
berendtˆˆ14:50
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Remove German publishing  https://review.openstack.org/38300614:50
berendtAJaeger we filter draft URLs from the sitemap file14:50
AJaegerfix ^14:50
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AJaegergood14:51
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AJaegerberendt: then the numbers look good!14:52
berendtid, ja, zh_CN, ko_KR are missing..?14:53
asettleOh good.14:53
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove German API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/38301214:53
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AJaegeryeah...14:53
AJaegerfix ^14:53
berendtscrapy crawl sitemap -a domain=developer.openstack.org -a urls="http://developer.openstack.org/id/api-guide/quick-start/,http://developer.openstack.org/ja/api-guide/quick-start/,http://developer.openstack.org/ko_KR/api-guide/quick-start/,http://developer.openstack.org/zh_CN/api-guide/quick-start/"14:53
asettleThanks AJaeger14:53
asettleberendt: give that a go?14:53
berendt'item_scraped_count': 27114:54
asettleHmm right14:54
AJaegergo for it!14:54
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berendtwe have to append all languages listed in doc-tools-check-languages.conf as entrypoint urls14:54
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berendti think for the future it is easier to link the translated quickstarts somewhere, this way we do not have to think about it again in 6 months14:55
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AJaegerpatches welcome ;)14:56
AJaegerI had no good idea myself how to add these yet14:56
AJaegerbut we might just add them at the bottom?14:57
berendtsomewhere.. the crawler just need a link14:58
berendtor we could extent the crawler to parse hidden values..14:58
* AJaeger removed "German" content from developer.o.o14:58
asettleLOL AJaeger14:59
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asettleNobody needs that, right? ;)14:59
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Remove German publishing  https://review.openstack.org/38300615:01
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AJaegerasettle: exactly.15:06
* AJaeger just needs to teach his kids English first ;)15:06
asettleAJaeger: ohhhhh lemme do that, my english is just bang on :p15:07
asettleAnd I know about 4 German words.15:07
berendtasettle tell us15:08
asettleNo pressure aye15:08
berendt:)15:08
asettleIch habe dich lieb15:08
asettleYep, I remember that from school15:08
asettleWhihc is pretty pointless15:08
asettleMeine name ist Alexandra15:09
asettleI always got my meine/mein's wrong though\15:09
asettleUmmm15:09
asettleObviously I learnt a lot in 2 years.15:09
AJaegerDas sind mehr als 4 Wörter! ;)15:09
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AJaegerberendt: I guess the first one was addressed to you ;)15:09
asettleAJaeger: I know, such a talent.15:10
asettleI can also do a hand stand.15:10
asettleberendt: it's true, it was. Let's hug it out...15:10
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asettleI also know my basic Danke/danke schon and willkommen15:10
AJaegerbis später...15:10
asettleSo, I'm pretty much fluent.15:10
asettleAJaeger: heading back to bed?15:11
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals:  Update the usage of "cinder snapshot-create" and output of "cinder"  https://review.openstack.org/38302615:11
AJaegerBtw. who's sending the sitemap now for api-site?15:11
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AJaegerasettle: sofa;)15:11
asettleAJaeger: for a second there I was like "what German word is sofa?!"15:11
asettleI need a drink.15:12
berendtuh, free hugs?15:12
asettleberendt: yep, I don't really do hugs, so it'll kinda be like a weird pat15:12
berendtˆˆ15:12
asettleberendt: are you able to generate the api site map?15:12
berendti am able to do this, yes..15:13
asettleDanke danke :)15:13
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/api-site: Regenerate sitemap.xml file for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38302815:15
berendtasettle Bitteschön.15:15
* asettle claps15:16
asettleYAY15:16
asettle+2 for you15:16
berendtwoho :)15:16
asettleWE HAVE DONE ALL THE THINGS15:16
asettleEVERYONE HAVE WINE15:16
asettle\o/15:16
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the usage of "cinder snapshot-create" and the output of "cinder"  https://review.openstack.org/38302615:18
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berendtparty time.. one more release finished15:28
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Regenerate sitemap.xml file for Newton  https://review.openstack.org/38302815:28
asettleberendt: yay :)15:29
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berendtasettle one more important German word: Feierabend!15:40
openstackgerritcaoyuan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the usage of "cinder snapshot-create" and the output of "cinder"  https://review.openstack.org/38302615:42
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asettleberendt: I must remember that one :D15:43
asettleYou'll have to tell me how to pronounce it properly in barcelona, you going?15:43
berendtyes of course, i can also teach you how to pronounce "Eichhörnchen"..15:50
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berendti go home, have a nice evening15:53
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openstackgerritKaren Bradshaw proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme: Update test API Ref  https://review.openstack.org/36243616:06
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openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Document git-review for new macOS users  https://review.openstack.org/38096918:11
openstackgerritIan Y. Choi proposed openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Document git-review for new macOS users  https://review.openstack.org/38096918:13
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme: Enable release notes translation  https://review.openstack.org/38330618:40
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Enable release notes translation  https://review.openstack.org/38330718:40
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openstackgerritKaren Bradshaw proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme: [WIP] movable sidebar nav  https://review.openstack.org/38342319:29
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openstackgerritKendall Nelson proposed openstack/training-guides: [upstream] Update Relevant Actors Module  https://review.openstack.org/38343020:03
Sam-I-Amloquacities: looks like its time to go purge the patch queue of no longer relevant and/or dust collecting patches20:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Change the prompt to run neutron command from # to $  https://review.openstack.org/37920520:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Updated Mellanox Driver section  https://review.openstack.org/37476320:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove German API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/38301220:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: renamed file to neutron_lbaas.conf  https://review.openstack.org/37942320:08
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [network-guide] Use project to replace tenant  https://review.openstack.org/37203820:08
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Sam-I-Ami see we've completely forgotten about bug triage20:45
Sam-I-Amloquacities: why are docimpact bugs in cinder getting shot over to us?20:47
Sam-I-Amhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/160234120:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1602341 in openstack-manuals " Add ZTE Block Storage Driver" [Undecided,New]20:47
Sam-I-Amthis is exactly what the new docimpact was supposed to address20:47
Sam-I-Amjust going to toss these back over the fence20:48
loquacitiesSam-I-Am:  i don't know?20:48
loquacitiestoss 'em back, i say :)20:48
Sam-I-Amyou need to have a chat with sean mcginnis20:49
Sam-I-Amthis is NOT how this works20:49
Sam-I-Amhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/154892720:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1548927 in openstack-manuals " Zfssaiscsi driver should not use 'default' initiator group" [Undecided,New]20:49
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loquacitieswill do21:10
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Sam-I-Amsome of these are things that generating the config ref might solve, in which case the bug should be cinder+docs, not just docs... and we can determine that with the author of the cinder patch21:12
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smcginnisSorry, don't know your nick, but it Matt Kassawara around?21:18
Sam-I-Amheh, i'm here.21:18
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Hi!21:18
Sam-I-Amhowdy21:18
smcginnisSam-I-Am: So... what additional information is missing in those.21:18
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Throwing these back and forth is going to be a big waste of time.21:18
smcginnisSam-I-Am: So if it has all the info as far as we know, boomeranging them isn't going to do any good.21:18
Sam-I-Ami think there's a misunderstanding in how these are supposed to work21:19
Sam-I-Ambecause cinder is the only project that's doing this21:19
Sam-I-Amthe idea of making docimpact open bugs in the project repo rather than openstack-manuals was so someone in that project can complete the docs work21:19
smcginnisSam-I-Am: We've had this for some time, and folks on the doc team have been able to take the info and complete things.21:19
smcginnisSo not sure what;s different now.21:19
Sam-I-Amin some cases, that may mean adding openstack-manuals to a bug, but not removing cinder from it until the docs patch is merged21:20
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smcginnisNot complete the work. At least that was not the proposal for the change.21:20
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smcginnisSam-I-Am: If that's how we are going to do it now, our documentation is going to greatly suffer.21:20
Sam-I-Amhowso? its not getting done by the docs team.21:21
Sam-I-Amthese bugs just sit because we dont know how to address them21:21
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smcginnisSam-I-Am: Well, I'm sure everyone will have all the best intentions, but if it's up to the Cinder team to go to the docs repos and update the changes, it's just not going to happen.21:22
smcginnisSo I might as well just write a script to auto close them.21:22
Sam-I-Amcinder is the outlier here.21:22
Sam-I-Amif neutron can update their own docs...21:22
smcginnisThe completion of the work as proposed to be the same, but the change in workflow at the time was to give the development teams a chance to add more information.21:23
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Sam-I-Ama lot of them might just be 'regenerate the config reference'21:23
Sam-I-Amthe developer of the patch should know where the thing might be documented21:24
Sam-I-Amlike this one...21:24
Sam-I-Amhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/159380921:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1593809 in openstack-manuals " vzstorage: add ploop volume format support" [Undecided,Fix released]21:24
Sam-I-Ami have zero idea what that means21:24
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Right, and most of the devs don't know how to regenerate the config reference.21:24
Sam-I-Amthey dont necessarily need to know how to do it, just something like "this information should appear in the config reference" is enough to put us in the right direction21:25
smcginnisSam-I-Am: I would think if no additional info was added, then I would check if the existing config reference mentions anything about the prior format and update it. And if not close it.21:25
Sam-I-Amexcept i dont know if something affects the config ref21:26
smcginnisMy guess is most DocImpact tagged changes really don't have a doc impact.21:26
Sam-I-Amlike this one...21:26
Sam-I-Amhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/161282421:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1612824 in openstack-manuals " HNAS: Deprecating XML config file" [Undecided,New]21:26
smcginnisAnd I've been trying to catch those where I can.21:26
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smcginnisSam-I-Am: So again, I would check if the config reference mentions anything about an XML config file and if so remove it.21:27
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Sam-I-Amsmcginnis: the point is, devs should be more responsible for documenting what they're doing.21:30
Sam-I-Amopenstack has gotten way to big for a docs team of maybe 6 people to keep up21:30
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Sam-I-Amwe're happy to help people find stuff, or teach them how to do things, or help with reviews... but writing content from commit messages is why we discontinued docimpact bugs going into openstack-manuals in the first place21:31
smcginnisSam-I-Am: OK, I'll bring this up in our next meeting and hopefully we will a) get more folks involved in writing documentation and b) less unnecessary DocImpact flagged bugs.21:32
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smcginnisSam-I-Am: Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but I'm afraid of what the state of our docs will be after a few release cycles of this.21:33
smcginnisHopefully I'll be proven wrong.21:33
Sam-I-Amthe config ref is generated by a script, so if the patch contains the proper help strings, the config ref will automatically include the changes the next time it is run. no need for docimpact there unless it changes something significant.21:33
smcginnisSam-I-Am: OK, great. That's on misconception I can fix that will take care of a lot.21:34
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Sam-I-Amhowever, just a config reference doesn't really enable people to use whatever it is21:34
smcginnisI've seen many -1's on patches stating "You've added a config option so this needs a DocImpact"21:34
Sam-I-Amthe config ref just says what the config options and values are, not how to actually use the thing21:34
Sam-I-Amso we need more docs about how to use the thing21:34
Sam-I-Amthe docs are already in a terrible state except for projects that contribute to them directly, such as neutron21:35
Sam-I-Ammost of the content was written when openstack was small and has become defunct21:35
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Sam-I-Amwhich is why we're also trying to push some of the docs into project repos... where projects have more control21:35
Sam-I-Amyou can submit docs/api patches in the same patch set as the feature21:36
Sam-I-Amno separate repo21:36
smcginnisSam-I-Am: OK, I added an item to our next meeting agenda.21:36
Sam-I-Amsome projects want it that way, others dont21:36
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Thanks for explaining this to me.21:36
Sam-I-Ambut the ultimate goal here is having usable docs for operators who want to deploy these things21:36
Sam-I-Amno problem21:36
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smcginnisSam-I-Am: I'll pitch the idea of moving all the docs in tree.21:37
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Sam-I-Ami might be able to attend your meeting if it helps. alternatively, it would be nice to have a cinder person at the docs meeting.21:37
smcginnisSam-I-Am: I think that may be the only way to make sure it gets updated with changes.21:37
Sam-I-Amthe in-tree api docs experiment went well, so maybe its time for more things to move21:37
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Yeah... I had tried to attend for a while but got too busy.21:37
Sam-I-Amus? busy? nahhh21:37
smcginnisSam-I-Am: I'll try to find someone else to be the docs liason.21:38
smcginnisSam-I-Am: ;)21:38
Sam-I-Amif nothing else we should add openstack-manuals to some of these bugs, but dont remove cinder... until the docs patch auto-closes the bug21:38
Sam-I-Amotherwise they get lost in limbo somewhere21:39
smcginnisSam-I-Am: That might work if/until we move in tree.21:39
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Could make it less likely to lose track of some things.21:39
smcginnisSam-I-Am: Thanks, I have a much better (and much different) understanding of this now.21:40
Sam-I-Amsmcginnis: np. it was good to chat. figured moving these bugs back would get someone's attention. :)21:41
smcginnis;)21:41
Sam-I-Ami can just add cinder back in for the other ones, if i cant figure out what to do with them21:43
smcginnisSam-I-Am: That sounds like a good plan. Thanks!21:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [networking] LBaaS v1 has been removed  https://review.openstack.org/37722922:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add doc for manage unmanage share snapshot  https://review.openstack.org/37718322:48
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Update sitemap for newton  https://review.openstack.org/38298522:54
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Update sitemap for newton  https://review.openstack.org/38298522:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Update sitemap for newton  https://review.openstack.org/38298523:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Added command to Populate the Alarming database  https://review.openstack.org/37246423:11
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/training-guides: Reorganize directory structure  https://review.openstack.org/38350423:26
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