Tuesday, 2016-06-21

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flwangloquacities: hi Lana01:52
flwangloquacities: we just merged the install guide of zaqar. and i'm adding the install-guide job for zaqar01:54
flwangand i'm assuming there is also a publish job so that i can publish the install guide, right?01:55
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loquacitiesflwang: that's great news!02:11
loquacitieswe *just* merged updated instructions about this: http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/project-install-guide.html02:12
loquacitiesyou won't be able to see it on the docs site just yet because we haven't set up the index page there yet, but you can set up all the jobs ready to go for when that happens02:13
flwangloquacities: ok, so for now, i just need to enable the install guide job like heat02:14
loquacitiesthat's right02:14
flwangwill we have a publish job like api-ref ?02:14
loquacitiesthere's an install guide team meeting today, in about four hours02:14
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loquacitieswe'll be discussing this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331704/02:14
flwangloquacities: unfortunately i can't join it, it's 6:00pm for me and i think i'm on the way to home :)02:15
loquacitiesah, no trouble02:15
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loquacitiesi'm not sure we'll be using a separate publish job, but AJaeger is the one to ask about that02:16
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flwangloquacities: ok, i see. thanks02:21
openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Huawei driver configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33191502:25
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openstackgerritWilson Liu proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Huawei driver configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33191503:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: MyFirstApp: Durability section with shade  https://review.openstack.org/33176003:14
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Huawei driver configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33191503:36
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AJaegerloquacities, flwang : It's a separate publish job as documented04:58
AJaegerflwang, loquacities : If it's done like heat, you enable a publishing job ;)04:59
flwangAJaeger: thanks, pls review this https://review.openstack.org/33192805:00
AJaegerflwang: just reviewing ;)05:00
AJaegerflwang: +205:01
AJaegerflwang: once that is in, and you merge another change to zaqar, you have the docs published...05:01
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loquacitiesAJaeger: good morning, and thank you :)05:38
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AJaegergood evening, loquacities !05:38
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AJaegerso, now we have heat, trove - see http://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/database/draft/ - up. And soon messaging!05:39
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AJaegerloquacities: you might want to talk with the swift team about https://review.openstack.org/312315 and https://review.openstack.org/330070 ...05:41
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AJaegerI suggest to import the api-ref as is and move forward with that one. The Install Guide fails since api-ref is not imported yet...05:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add link to neutron-dynamic-routing devref  https://review.openstack.org/32396805:42
loquacitiesah05:42
loquacitiescan we make 330070 dependent on 312315?05:42
loquacitiesor is that oversimplifying the problem?05:43
AJaegergood idea!05:43
AJaegerWill you comment on it?05:43
loquacitiessure05:43
AJaegerflwang's change for infra was just approved, so zaqar should have docs up tomorrow...05:44
loquacitieswhee!05:44
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AJaegerloquacities: looking at these, I think it might be best if you talk with the swift folks and discuss how to move forward...05:46
loquacitiesi can do that05:46
AJaegerBut seems there's also a setup problem that Karin is looking at ...05:46
loquacitiesi'm not sure i fully understand the issues, though05:46
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AJaegerloquacities: neither do I - perhaps wait a day or two. I just left one comment on sphinx versions05:50
loquacitieswe don't have a formal swift liaison, i'm just getting in contact with our swift dev here in australia05:50
AJaegeror ask the PTL...05:51
loquacitiesi'll do that tomorrow if don't get any joy with matt05:51
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: PHP OpenCloud links in developer.openstack.org  https://review.openstack.org/33149105:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: .NET SDK links in developer.openstack.org  https://review.openstack.org/33148805:55
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AJaegerloquacities: found the problem - sphinx versoin is too old. Change to fix it: https://review.openstack.org/33195405:58
loquacitiesah!05:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/installguide-cookiecutter: Add verify operation steps  https://review.openstack.org/32619306:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/installguide-cookiecutter: Add Prerequisites steps  https://review.openstack.org/32619006:22
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openstackgerrittanyy proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide/telemetry] alter the mapping keys highlight If we don't use highlight for the mapping keys, it will not be easy to see the relations in the context.  https://review.openstack.org/33174106:33
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loquacitiesAJaeger: matt says swift is in a patch freeze right now anyway, for the next week or so06:39
loquacitiesbut he's starred those patches so he can shepherd them through once they're merging things again06:39
AJaegerloquacities: ok, thanks06:39
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/33197507:05
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openstackgerritDarren Chan proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Remove "Support for ISO images" section  https://review.openstack.org/33197907:10
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/33198007:10
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] add note about invalid mac addr port  https://review.openstack.org/33199207:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/33197507:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update Huawei driver configuration  https://review.openstack.org/33191508:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [ha-guide] fix vip resource name  https://review.openstack.org/33151208:10
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] add note about invalid mac addr port  https://review.openstack.org/33199208:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/33198009:00
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openstackgerritThanassis Parathyras proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Small typo correction  https://review.openstack.org/33206310:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Small typo correction  https://review.openstack.org/33206311:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guide] add note about invalid mac addr port  https://review.openstack.org/33199211:45
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Add RPC configuration to common  https://review.openstack.org/32924013:16
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openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Add RPC configuration to common  https://review.openstack.org/32924013:38
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme: Increase indent level of doc top contents  https://review.openstack.org/32561613:56
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/installguide-cookiecutter: Add install-{obs, rdo, ubuntu}.rst files  https://review.openstack.org/33216114:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Add RPC configuration to common  https://review.openstack.org/32924014:34
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] reorganize FC Zone Manager section  https://review.openstack.org/33217114:35
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pkovarAJaeger: just wanted to confirm, when adding a dependency on another change to an existing change, one needs to follow the last three steps in http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#adding-a-dependency ?14:53
pkovarthis is for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330070/14:53
AJaegerpkovar: yeah, those steps work if it's in the same repo.14:55
AJaegerYou can also use "Depends-On:" in a repo or accross.14:55
pkovarexcellent, ty14:55
AJaegerpkovar: did you see minutes from the install meeting this morning?14:55
pkovarAJaeger: just going through them :)14:55
AJaegergreat, thanks!14:56
pkovarAJaeger: i think there will be merge conflicts during rebasing, so adding "Depends-On: might not be enough?14:56
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AJaegerpkovar: just adding depends-on will be enough. But if you get merge conflicts during rebase, you will get them when stuff merges anyway ;)15:04
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pkovaryeah, good point15:07
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openstackgerrittanyy proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [admin-guide/telemetry] alter the mapping keys highlight  https://review.openstack.org/33174115:17
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openstackgerritNjira Perci proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: doc-tools unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/28412215:51
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit is being restarted now to apply an emergency security-related configuration change16:05
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openstackgerritPetr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [WIP][www] Create index page for draft IGs  https://review.openstack.org/33170417:46
annegentleAJaeger: question for you when you get a minute. Should I propose a filename cleanup in the admin-guide? I see mixed use of dash and underscore in filenames.17:49
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AJaegerannegentle: go ahead if you like...18:01
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annegentleAJaeger: which is "pythonic?" underscore or dash?18:03
AJaegerannegentle: I think underscore is more common. Do we have guidelines in the contributor guide?18:04
annegentleAJaeger: good question, I'll look18:04
AJaegerthat one uses - for file names;)18:05
AJaeger"* use hyphen as a space delimiter."18:05
AJaegerin docs-structure.rst18:05
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annegentleAJaeger: woot. Do you have a link? I can then refer to it in my patc18:06
annegentlepatch18:06
annegentleAJaeger: found it, http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-structure.html18:07
annegentleAJaeger: I'll log a bug too I guess18:07
AJaegerannegentle: no need to file a bug for following the contributor guide!18:08
AJaegerif anybody asks you for that I'll scream18:08
annegentleAJaeger: Hee. ok18:08
annegentleAJaeger: oh man, over 100 files in admin-guide...18:09
annegentleAJaeger: guess I'll bite.18:09
annegentleAJaeger: similar amount in user-guide. sigh.18:10
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AJaeger;)18:13
AJaegerannegentle: renaming files should be easy - getting all referneces right is the problem...18:14
annegentleAJaeger: right...18:14
AJaegerannegentle: I hope the swift api-ref files are fine now, I pushed some dependencies through and the swift and requirements team merged everything already.18:16
AJaegerI really like those api-ref files in now - they block the install guide18:16
annegentleAJaeger: yeah, hurrah for quick dependencies merging. I too would like those api-ref files in, have to get Donagh or John to agree to merge as-is it seems? Other ideas? I could go to their team meeting again to bug?18:17
AJaegerannegentle: I talked with loquacities this morning as well, she said they in some kind of freeze - but perhaps only for code? loquacities wanted to follow up, so let's see what happens. But if notmyname can help, it would be great18:18
annegentleAJaeger: ok, thanks. At the meeting they mentioned wanting to get their crypto feature in first http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-06-15-21.00.log.txt18:22
AJaegerannegentle: I see - soft freeze...18:22
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annegentleAJaeger: tha'ts my guess anyway18:23
AJaegerannegentle: api-ref should not block the crypto work but it's question of focus, so let's see...18:23
annegentleAJaeger: right... can't make projects prioritize always...18:24
annegentleAJaeger: I am a little nervous on the work needed to get all api docs in the same nav pane, but eating an elephant a bite at a time18:24
AJaegerso, let's see whether it builds fine this time so that it's ready once soft-freez lifts18:24
AJaegerexactly - that's why I'd like to have those in early, gives us more time to eat ;)18:25
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notmynamehi18:30
AJaegerhi, notmyname ...18:30
notmynameyeah, soft freeze, mostly for focus reasons, on crypto right now18:31
AJaegerwe've been discussing api-ref and install-guide move to swift repo. Should we ping you again next week?18:31
notmynameI'm definitely in the camp of land-it-now-improve-it-later about the api docs18:31
AJaegerglad to hear18:31
notmynameyeah, just catching up on this channel activity18:31
notmynamecurrent timetable for crypto work ends on friday. or rather is to be reevaluated on friday. this is the 2nd week of focus on landing crypto. I suspect we'll add one more week18:32
openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: PoC of the PXE server functionality  https://review.openstack.org/30599118:32
AJaegernotmyname: with the api-ref jobs merged, you first need to merge api-ref changes so that the job passes, then merge install-guide.18:32
notmynameok, great18:32
notmynamelike you said, there's very little risk of conflicts with the crypto work with these doc changes, so I don't think it should be technically blocked by the current focus on crypto18:33
AJaegernotmyname: the two guides shouldn't cause any major merge conflicts, so could go in any time - in case the swift team is idle ;)18:33
notmynamethe only "blocker" will be eyeball time18:33
AJaegeryep18:33
AJaegerif there's anything that loquacities, annegentle, or myself can do to move this forward, feel free to ask.18:34
annegentlenotmyname: yep, understood18:34
notmynameAJaeger: awesome, thanks18:35
AJaegernotmyname: for us it's important to get this in soon, since these are one of many steps. Waiting another week should be fine - waiting a month would be bad18:35
notmynameok18:35
AJaegerthanks, notmyname18:36
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Updates readme with release information.  https://review.openstack.org/32863718:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstackdocstheme: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33233119:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/33232919:29
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openstackgerritMarcela Bonell proposed openstack/api-site: MyFirstApp: Durability section with shade (RST file)  https://review.openstack.org/33248221:29
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] add Image API status  https://review.openstack.org/33249822:38
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-glanceclient to 2.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/33250222:55
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-glanceclient to 2.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/33250223:45
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