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loquacitieshttps://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April-2016-User-Survey-Report.pdf00:16
loquacitiespage 18 has some good feedback for us00:16
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [cli-ref] Remove work around for checkniceness  https://review.openstack.org/30491300:39
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/ha-guide: Fix the inconsistent display of commands  https://review.openstack.org/30440701:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [contributor] add a note about the preferred image format  https://review.openstack.org/30413102:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update ML2 section of networking-guide  https://review.openstack.org/28234904:27
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: ML2 section update for macvtap ml2 driver + agent  https://review.openstack.org/28080104:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: networking guide: added info about path_mtu option  https://review.openstack.org/30421005:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Adds an API guides section to the Contributor Guide  https://review.openstack.org/29129705:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30496306:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30496306:17
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30497106:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30497206:27
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Consolidate Technical Requirements in Arch Guide  https://review.openstack.org/30497306:29
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Consolidate Technical Requirements in Arch Guide  https://review.openstack.org/30497306:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30497206:48
openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Consolidate Technical Requirements in Arch Guide  https://review.openstack.org/30497306:49
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [i18n] Build Korean Install Guide as draft  https://review.openstack.org/30498706:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/30497106:54
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499607:05
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499707:05
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499807:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499607:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499707:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/30499807:13
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openstackgerritNGUYEN TUONG THANH proposed openstack/api-site: Change parameter name and add Response table for creating a user  https://review.openstack.org/30503608:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [i18n] Build Korean Install Guide as draft  https://review.openstack.org/30498708:46
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] move OS_IMAGE_API_VERSION variable into "Create OpenStack client environment scripts"  https://review.openstack.org/30507409:49
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openstackgerritChristian Berendt proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] cleanup keystone apache configuration for ubuntu and suse  https://review.openstack.org/30446609:55
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/security-doc: Shared File Systems service security guide fixes  https://review.openstack.org/29822710:03
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www] Add Korean Install Guide as draft  https://review.openstack.org/30510310:32
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scheuranHi, can anybody explain where I can find the source for the neutron.flagmappings file?11:55
AJaegerscheuran: openstack-manuals/tools/autogenerate-config-flagmappings/11:55
AJaegerscheuran: tools for it are in openstack-doc-tools11:56
scheuranAJaeger, cool, thanks11:56
AJaegerIf you regenerate something, please use stable/mitaka neutron branch - for master of openstack-manuals11:56
AJaegerwe haven't branched yet in openstack-manuals11:56
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scheuranAJaeger, so ./autohelp-wrapper -b stable/mitaka update neutron11:58
scheuran?11:58
scheuranNow I'm confused - so if I do the changes to stable/mitaka - it will be "backported" to mitaka and also in master (as not yet branched?)12:00
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AJaegerfor openstack-manuals: Make the change in master, there'S no stable/mitaka12:14
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AJaegerBut use neutron's stable/mitaka branch for content12:15
AJaegerscheuran: your command line looks fine but I haven't run this for a couple of month ;(12:15
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scheuranAJaeger, ah ok - no changes in Neutron required - I just need to correct a wrong grouping of config options..12:58
scheuranAJaeger, thanks!12:58
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add 'generated files' section to contributor guide  https://review.openstack.org/29315613:00
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AJaegerscheuran: you're welcome!13:02
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scheuranAJaeger, do you also know by chance how I can get rid of the following message while config generation: "No nicename for macvtap_agent" ?13:11
scheuranAJaeger, got it13:11
AJaegerscheuran: yes, I know - did you figure it out with just asking? ;)13:12
scheuran.headers file13:12
AJaegeryep13:12
scheuranthanks :)13:12
AJaegerAlways glad to listen ;)13:12
openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference  https://review.openstack.org/30526513:17
AJaegerscheuran: congrats ^13:17
scheuranAJaeger, thanks. It was very helpful to learn how that works..13:19
AJaegerscheuran: I commented - we don't like orphan, some other page needs to include your new table...13:19
AJaegerOh, my Denglish ;( I meant "orphans"13:20
scheuranAJaeger, makes sense. thanks13:20
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openstackgerritAndreas Scheuring proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference  https://review.openstack.org/30526513:23
scheuranAJaeger, that was fast - thanks for +2!13:25
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AJaegerscheuran: I only needed to check the delta ;)13:26
AJaegerscheuran: and didn't want that many iterations like for the Networking guide ;)13:27
scheuranAJaeger, yeah I'm also glad that it's in now...13:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/30520613:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add 'generated files' section to contributor guide  https://review.openstack.org/29315613:51
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/docs-specs: Project Specific Install Guides  https://review.openstack.org/30128414:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Remove work around for checkniceness  https://review.openstack.org/30513014:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add macvtap agent as group to config reference  https://review.openstack.org/30526514:38
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-neutronclient to 4.2.0  https://review.openstack.org/30533615:04
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Correct the management IP of the object storage node 2  https://review.openstack.org/30535315:27
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openstackgerritAlexey Khodos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: NexentaStor5: correct doc page  https://review.openstack.org/30434417:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add trove API doc for replication and configuration  https://review.openstack.org/30308817:26
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njohnstonHi, I have a question about how to properly show something in the API guide; is this the correct place to ask?18:15
njohnstonSpecifically: in the "Networking API v2.0 extensions (CURRENT)" page, in the "QoS policies" section - http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#qos-ext - the new methods that the QoS extension enables are listed.18:16
njohnstonBut the QoS extension also adds additional fields to the create network and update network methods.  Those are detailed in the "Networking API v2.0 (CURRENT)" page - http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#networks - in their vanilla form.18:18
njohnstonWithout noting how create network and update network have changed, a user doesn't know how to associate a QoS policy to anything.  But what is the proper way to indicate the change to the existing methods?18:19
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agentlenjohnston: you can try here but also #openstack-sdks has a lot of knowledge. I'm going to look for an existing bug18:37
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agentlenjohnston: or let me restate, have you already logged a bug about this?18:37
njohnstonagentle: Thanks much.  And congrats on the new gig!18:37
agentlenjohnston: thanks! the bug log is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site18:38
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njohnstonagentle: No, I havent - I thought I would ping the channel before logging a bug because it seems like something that is likely a frequently asked question.18:38
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agentlenjohnston: is it related to this work? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/155055918:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550559 in openstack-api-site " Qos policy RBAC DB setup and migration" [Medium,Confirmed]18:39
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agentlenjohnston: I mean, I get the basis of your question, which I interpret as: "when another operation's request has to change in order to accommodate a second operation's needs, how do you indicate that?" << is that right?18:40
njohnstonagentle: This is in relation to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1468353 - and specifically API guide change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/27525318:40
openstackLaunchpad bug 1468353 in neutron "[RFE] QoS DSCP marking rule support" [Wishlist,Fix committed] - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy)18:40
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njohnstonagentle: Your restatement is pretty close.  I would word it as, "When an operation that is part of the base functionality is altered by an optional extension, so that the original operation gains additional arguments and responses related to the optional extension, how should that be indicated?"18:42
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AJaegernjohnston: that should be forbidden ;)18:43
AJaegernjohnston: sorry, can't help here...18:44
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njohnstonAJaeger: Alas I wish it were so.  Pure orthogonality would be a lovely thing to see.18:44
agentlenjohnston: heh, it's tough to describe, yeah. But I think what you need to do is have two different request examples. The vanilla one can remain, then add a second. The current tool lists both. The migration will still need both those sample requests.18:45
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njohnstonagentle: Should the second example, the one showing the behavior with the optional extension engaged, be grouped with the original method (i.e. create_network/update_network in http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2.html#networks ) or should it be grouped with in the extensions page with the extension-specific methods?18:47
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agentlenjohnston: yes, with the original method.18:48
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njohnstonagentle: Thanks very much for the guidance!  I do wish there was a more graceful way to handle this, but I'm not sure how such a thing would be easily accomplished.18:50
agentlenjohnston: should I comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275253?18:50
njohnstonSure, please do.  Never a bad idea to have a note in the public record. :-)18:51
agentlenjohnston: I don't even know what dscp is :)18:54
njohnstonagentle: I'll be giving a talk in Austin to tell you all about it!  :-)  DSCP is a field in the IP packet header that allows classification of traffic for preferential treatment or security categorization.18:55
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njohnstonIt's a subset of Networking Quality of Service (QoS).18:57
agentlenjohnston: thanks! good on ya18:59
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njohnstonagentle: Apropos to your gerrit comment, we can elucidate the acronym (Differential Services Code Point), but I am not sure that would actually help anyone understand what it means.  It's rather obscure.  Is there room for a short blurb to give a one or two sentence overview, under the heading of the "QoS policies" section in http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html#qos-ext ?19:02
agentleoh yes, njohnston please do add more introductory material -- and link to any background that would help19:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: [Heat] Fixing parameters type on Stack resources APIs  https://review.openstack.org/30108119:09
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flwangagentle: ping re zaqar's api-ref22:07
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