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loquacitiesmeeting time, apaccers!00:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Horizon configuration tables  https://review.openstack.org/27786800:35
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asettleloquacities: I have convinced njirap to help us out with the install guide testing!01:06
loquacitiesyay!01:06
njirapthats me..!01:06
asettlenjirap: was an intern with me for the outreachy program and is interested in continuing to work with OpenStack which was super cool! She did amazingly and started on some doc-tools stuff.01:07
loquacitiesnjirap: hi!01:07
njiraphi loquacities01:07
loquacitiesif you could start with ubuntu, that would be super helpful01:07
njirapok..01:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Release Notes] Update for HA and API guides for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29567001:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [contributor] Add [WIP] to list of topic tags  https://review.openstack.org/29559601:57
openstackgerritNam Nguyen Hoai proposed openstack/api-site: [identity][v3/policies] Types of some parameters are wrong Fixing type of some parameters, which are wrong  https://review.openstack.org/29614302:13
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openstackgerritAlexandra Settle proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Object Storage chapter edits  https://review.openstack.org/29562202:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Reorganised Quickstart chapter  https://review.openstack.org/29220102:46
thingeeloquacities: ping02:47
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Troubleshooting Sections Reorganised.  https://review.openstack.org/29562602:51
asettlethingee: she just popped off to the gym. She'll be back later :)02:51
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thingeeok, I'll probably be asleep by then. I'll email the list about it later.02:51
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asettleOkay thingee :))02:59
sheelasettle: hi03:02
sheelasettle: need review help on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294126/   waiting for final +2 for further dependent patches..03:03
sheelasettle: thanks03:03
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loquacitiesoh damn, i must have only just missed thingee04:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Object Storage chapter edits  https://review.openstack.org/29562204:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Missing volume type access add  https://review.openstack.org/29412604:34
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Fix links to API Guide  https://review.openstack.org/29603804:39
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openstackgerritSheel Rana proposed openstack/api-site: Missing "volume type access delete"  https://review.openstack.org/29503305:33
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29620506:42
openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install]Add "--domain default" to the creating user command  https://review.openstack.org/29620806:46
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Sort chapter by alphabetical order  https://review.openstack.org/29621707:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/29620507:07
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-manilaclient to 1.8.1  https://review.openstack.org/29623007:31
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove obsolete French Draft Image Guide  https://review.openstack.org/29624308:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Update python-manilaclient to 1.8.1  https://review.openstack.org/29623008:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Do not use obsoleted keys in ceilometer config  https://review.openstack.org/29538408:16
openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Use correct location for notification driver.  https://review.openstack.org/29536508:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [cli-ref] Sort chapter by alphabetical order  https://review.openstack.org/29621709:15
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/training-guides: Update upstream university leader for austin  https://review.openstack.org/29610909:15
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openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration  https://review.openstack.org/29630909:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: Update upstream university leader for austin  https://review.openstack.org/29610909:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-guides: Adding tool chain documentation for IRC  https://review.openstack.org/28694109:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Remove obsolete French Draft Image Guide  https://review.openstack.org/29624310:29
openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration  https://review.openstack.org/29630910:48
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openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Use correct location for notification driver.  https://review.openstack.org/29536511:27
openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration  https://review.openstack.org/29630911:29
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openstackgerritOlga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Adopts tools/publishdocs.sh for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29638611:35
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openstackgerritOlga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Creates mitaka/index page  https://review.openstack.org/29639612:11
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openstackgerritOlga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [release] Creates mitaka/index page  https://review.openstack.org/29639612:26
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openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add LVM driver page  https://review.openstack.org/29642312:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide]Fix the wrong source MAC noted after routing  https://review.openstack.org/28757613:13
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openstackgerritJiri Suchomel proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Workaround for missing mongoDB auth configuration  https://review.openstack.org/29630913:36
openstackgerritAllen proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add screenshot for create image in user guide  https://review.openstack.org/29644113:37
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openstackgerritPetr Kovar proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Update rdo procedures in environment-packages  https://review.openstack.org/29645213:57
openstackgerritAlexey Ovchinnikov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add LVM driver page  https://review.openstack.org/29642313:57
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openstackgerritchen.xing proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Networking-guide]Fix the wrong source MAC noted after routing  https://review.openstack.org/29648714:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add para elements, text in listitems  https://review.openstack.org/29598814:33
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strigaziHi all, since Magnum's install guide won't be in mitaka (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288580/), I should move the spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289994/) under newton. Can I create the directory and include it in doc/source/index.rst or there is another procedure for new releases?14:37
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AJaegerstrigazi: go for it!14:49
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openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/api-site: Add Network IP Availability API Extension  https://review.openstack.org/28095314:52
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strigaziAJaeger: thanks15:02
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openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/docs-specs: Add magnum to the installation guide for newton  https://review.openstack.org/28999415:32
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openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page  https://review.openstack.org/29540415:47
openstackgerritValeriy Ponomaryov proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page  https://review.openstack.org/29540416:07
dencavalHey guys, do you know if ubuntu, redhat and suse already have RC1 repositories?16:07
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update HPE 3PAR Shared File System Docs  https://review.openstack.org/29608816:20
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openstackgerritLinette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Add new file to cfg ssh  https://review.openstack.org/29599716:30
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide  https://review.openstack.org/29662417:33
openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide  https://review.openstack.org/29662417:36
openstackgerritSpyros Trigazis proposed openstack/docs-specs: Add magnum to the installation guide for newton  https://review.openstack.org/28999417:36
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [WIP] [config-ref] Include Octavia options  https://review.openstack.org/29663817:46
openstackgerritOlena Logvinova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Manila] Add ZFSonLinux driver page  https://review.openstack.org/29540417:46
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openstackgerritMike Perez proposed openstack/training-guides: Create git setup/learn guide  https://review.openstack.org/29662418:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add faults to os-virtual-interface WADL  https://review.openstack.org/28957318:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Compute API v2.1 List servers response tables do not show full parameters.  https://review.openstack.org/29022818:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add missing 'links' parameters for manila  https://review.openstack.org/28071518:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Cinder: Block Storage API v2 page: URL of APIs are not correct  https://review.openstack.org/29220218:41
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Compute extensions is lack of response parameters.  https://review.openstack.org/29029118:42
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Adding response parameters table for firewall policy API  https://review.openstack.org/29270418:45
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT ha to Networking Guide  https://review.openstack.org/29671119:24
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Install: Simplify OpenRC files  https://review.openstack.org/29318819:42
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Change OpenRC *DOMAIN_ID to *DOMAIN_NAME  https://review.openstack.org/29671719:42
openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Change OpenRC *DOMAIN_ID to *DOMAIN_NAME  https://review.openstack.org/29671719:43
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Keystone updates for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29676420:08
AJaegerdguitarbite: could you review and test the change above, please ? ^20:09
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thingeeloquacities: thanks for the clarification on the install docs. I will try my best to attend the session. cross-project efforts have me thin on trying to attend everything.21:41
thingeeloquacities: I'm happy as long as things are discoverable. Don't really care where they live, but it seems like staying in tree with the projects is working for some.21:42
loquacitiesthingee:  no trouble21:55
loquacitieswe recognise that there's a pain point here, we just needed the bandwidth to be able to solve it21:55
loquacitiesand RST conversions have taken up all our time for the last two releases21:55
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openstackgerritMatthew Kassawara proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Keystone auth updates for Mitaka  https://review.openstack.org/29681622:07
Sam-I-Amloquacities: we need to get moving on some of these patches22:07
Sam-I-Amthanks to keystone's last minute changes, i'm having to address almost the entire guide.22:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add Network IP Availability API Extension  https://review.openstack.org/28095322:30
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loquacitiesSam-I-Am: sorry for the late reply, been in meetings all morning22:44
loquacitiesSam-I-Am: what needs to be done with the patches?22:44
Sam-I-Amreview, merge22:46
loquacitiesah right22:57
loquacitiesyep, i'm on that today22:57
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Sam-I-Amloquacities: having to make a lot of invasive changes this late in the cycle22:59
loquacitiesyeah, sucks :(22:59
Sam-I-Amkeystone has been terrible this cycle23:00
Sam-I-Amand its more or less the foundation for everything else23:00
loquacitiesit's becoming a habit23:00
Sam-I-Amwe need to figure out why projects arent involving themselves with the guides23:00
Sam-I-Amother docs aside, the install guide should be important to all projects23:00
loquacitiesit's weird, there's a lot of "omg we need docs" on the ML23:01
loquacitiesbut then no actual support23:01
Sam-I-Amyeah, i've seen that since i started23:01
loquacitiesit's like a form of learned helplessness23:01
Sam-I-Ammuch of it is attributed to the poor decision of using docbook for so long23:01
loquacitiesyeah, fair call23:02
Sam-I-Amand i'm seeing an increase in contributions from some projects now that we're using rst. a lot of devs still seem to think docs has this crazy workflow.23:02
Sam-I-Amso i suggest some education showing its just rst+sphinx with some conventions to keep things sane23:02
Sam-I-Amdevs find it easier to just toss stuff into the devref because its fire-and-forget, and people in their project can merge it with code.23:03
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loquacitiesSam-I-Am: yeah, i don't even know how to go about educating them other than to keep yelling "IT'S THE SAME AS CODE"23:10
loquacitieswhich i already do, a lot23:10
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Sam-I-Ami'm not privy to tc meetings, but i think we need more understanding from the tc to get the ptls in the right mindset about docs23:14
Sam-I-Amit would be nice if projects would contribute specific resources to docs, or at least join our meetings and helps us with things like the install guide, but at a minimum no-docs-no-merge seems to be working well for a couple of projects23:15
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT HA configuration example  https://review.openstack.org/29683623:19
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openstackgerritAdolfo Duarte proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [User Guides] Adds DVR/SNAT HA configuration example  https://review.openstack.org/29683623:50

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