Thursday, 2015-12-10

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loquacitiesbogdando:  ping00:38
loquacitiesare you able to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1516341 please?00:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516341 in openstack-manuals "Identity services (keystone) in High Availability Guide" [Undecided,New]00:38
loquacitiesit needs someone familiar with the material to confirm00:38
Sam-I-Amloquacities: the ha guide is a disaster and mostly no longer relevant00:38
loquacitiesi'm aware of that00:39
Sam-I-Ami thought it was getting renovated for kilo.. or even liberty00:39
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loquacitiesit is00:39
loquacitiesthat's why i pinged bogdando00:39
Sam-I-Amprobably needs to be un-published until further notice00:39
loquacitiesyeah, i'd be happy to do that if the speciality team agree00:39
Sam-I-Amits like the debian install guide :)00:39
Sam-I-Amits too bad we're not getting operator contributions to the operator-centric guides00:40
Sam-I-Amwe just can't keep all this stuff fresh00:40
Sam-I-Amsame situation with the ops and networking guides00:40
Sam-I-Amthe idea was kicking it off and then people would keep the ball rolling00:41
loquacitiesit was? since when>00:41
loquacities?00:41
Sam-I-Amwell, thats how i imagine it. solid documentation needs contributions from people using the things.00:42
Sam-I-Amat least the more advanced stuff00:42
Sam-I-Amdo any of us docs folks run production clouds?00:42
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Sam-I-Amfor example, this upgrades spec. i was hoping an operator would jump on it and at least dump some things in an etherpad that docs can decode00:43
loquacitiesi've been a tech writer for a long time, and trust me there's no "build it and they will come" thing going on here00:46
Sam-I-Amlol00:46
Sam-I-Amit sucks, really.00:46
loquacitiesit's part of the job00:46
Sam-I-Amtheres absolutely no way i can write a thorough upgrade guide00:47
Sam-I-Amyet people expect one to exist00:47
loquacitiesno, but you can probably write a half-way decent one, and then get people to tell you where you screwed it up00:47
loquacitiespeople are always happy to tell you where you got things wrong ;)00:47
Sam-I-Amtrue00:47
loquacitiesthe trick is learning not to take it personally00:47
Sam-I-Ami dont think i take it personally. its just frustrating that plenty of people have done things we write about in much better environments00:48
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loquacitiesyeah, and we're here to extract that info from their heads00:51
loquacitiesthat's what we do00:51
loquacitiesbogdando:  can you also please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/151646500:52
openstackLaunchpad bug 1516465 in openstack-manuals "HAProxy nodes in High Availability Guide" [Undecided,New]00:52
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update volume API v1 and v2 to make these changes  https://review.openstack.org/25495801:02
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Eva-iHello. Do you plan to convert "API Complete Reference" to RST in the future?01:03
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loquacitiesEva-i:  yes01:06
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25146701:08
Eva-iloquacities: would it be far or near future, how do you think?01:09
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Eva-iIt's important for Zaqar team to know it, because we would like to start migrating/converting our API reference to the official place, but we're scared if the format will change in the near future and the conversion work will be for nothing.01:28
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref]Follow up patch  https://review.openstack.org/25562901:39
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref]Follow up patch  https://review.openstack.org/25562901:43
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service  https://review.openstack.org/25224501:59
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Update dashboard navigation for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/25563402:01
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update telemetry API v2 to make these changes  https://review.openstack.org/25564702:45
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loquacitiesEva-i: it won't be for nothing in either case. If you get it in before the migration, it will get migrated over later on02:52
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service  https://review.openstack.org/25224502:55
Eva-iloquacities: do you mean if API spec will be written in docbook, Doc team will convert it when mass conversion will start? It will be additional work still.02:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide]Add docker as one of the container formats  https://review.openstack.org/25524803:03
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openstackgerritAtsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add senlin to common and CLI reference  https://review.openstack.org/25524903:16
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix Keystone Identity V3 Trust API URL  https://review.openstack.org/25565203:18
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update share API with multiple changes  https://review.openstack.org/25565703:29
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openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Refresh mariadb/galera instructions based on current best practice  https://review.openstack.org/24789603:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: High level descriptions of the keepalived and pacemaker HA architectures  https://review.openstack.org/24788703:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Merge the galera summary into the main galera page  https://review.openstack.org/24789003:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Move the memcached summary into a page specific to memcached  https://review.openstack.org/24789103:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Merge the haproxy summary into the main HA proxy page  https://review.openstack.org/24788803:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Merge the rabbitmq summary into the main rabbitmq page  https://review.openstack.org/24788903:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Remove no-quorum-policy option  https://review.openstack.org/24789403:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Include pcs commands for creating a HAProxy resource  https://review.openstack.org/24789503:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Configure VIPs before services  https://review.openstack.org/24789203:31
openstackgerritAndrew Beekhof proposed openstack/ha-guide: Include how to set up a cluster with pcs  https://review.openstack.org/24789303:31
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25146703:36
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Update dashboard navigation for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/25563403:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service  https://review.openstack.org/25224503:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] increase minimum hardware requirement  https://review.openstack.org/25192403:46
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [autohelp] Simple neutron handling  https://review.openstack.org/25317203:57
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert block storage HDS HNAS to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25524703:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add senlin to common and CLI reference  https://review.openstack.org/25524904:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Include neutron config files  https://review.openstack.org/25498404:16
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566404:17
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566504:17
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566604:17
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Add nova contents for Debian  https://review.openstack.org/25566704:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/security-doc: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566604:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ha-guide: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566504:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Updated from openstack-manuals  https://review.openstack.org/25566404:30
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Eva-iloquacities: oki, thank you for your answers. I wonder when mass API conversion might happen.04:35
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loquacitiesEva-i: you'd be best off chatting to anne gentle about exact timelines04:42
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loquacitiesand keep an eye on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/app-guides-mitaka-vision04:42
Eva-iloquacities: oh,  thanks, I will do it.04:45
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the order of image formats  https://review.openstack.org/25567204:52
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Update dashboard navigation for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/25563405:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25568706:13
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Fix Keystone Identity V3 Trust API URL  https://review.openstack.org/25565206:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25568706:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [autohelp] allow overrides of sections  https://review.openstack.org/25380807:31
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert the NetApp cinder driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25494807:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the order of image formats  https://review.openstack.org/25567207:56
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs agaisnt openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572408:31
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs agaisnt openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572408:32
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs agaisnt openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572408:33
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs against openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572408:34
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/api-site: Report bugs against openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572408:38
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Neutron conf-changes  https://review.openstack.org/25573908:52
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [diff_branches] Handle empty values in RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25574008:52
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Add README in conf-changes/ folder  https://review.openstack.org/25574408:56
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bogdandoloquacities, thank you for testing this. I updated the testing progress page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting#HA_guide as well09:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [user-guides] Update dashboard navigation for Liberty  https://review.openstack.org/25563409:31
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups  https://review.openstack.org/25575809:37
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert block storage HDS HNAS to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25524709:52
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Improvements to the hpe-3par-driver  https://review.openstack.org/25562909:54
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups  https://review.openstack.org/25575810:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Add README in conf-changes/ folder  https://review.openstack.org/25574410:11
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Improvements to the hpe-3par-driver  https://review.openstack.org/25562910:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Neutron conf-changes  https://review.openstack.org/25573910:33
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert block storage HDS HNAS to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25524711:03
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openstackgerritEduardo Felipe Zecca da Cruz proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for HNAS Shared File Systems Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24527111:12
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openstackgerritNjira Perci proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Minor changes to HPE 3PAR drivers RST  https://review.openstack.org/25580611:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Minor changes to HPE 3PAR drivers RST  https://review.openstack.org/25580611:59
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openstackgerritEduardo Felipe Zecca da Cruz proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for HNAS Shared File Systems Driver  https://review.openstack.org/24527112:19
openstackgerritBogdan Dobrelya proposed openstack/ha-guide: Fix HAProxy configuration for controllers  https://review.openstack.org/25583712:22
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AJaegerSam-I-Am: could you approve my networking versioning changes, please? https://review.openstack.org/255396 https://review.openstack.org/255394 https://review.openstack.org/25539512:23
AJaegerSam-I-Am: with those my part of the versioning spec should be done ;)12:24
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [diff_branches] Handle empty values in RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25574012:44
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: Add detailed info to instance and server name  https://review.openstack.org/25586813:15
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups  https://review.openstack.org/25575813:36
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: those can be approved prior to the backport stuffs?13:40
AJaegerthose should - so that you can properly review the backport stuff and check that it works13:41
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AJaegerOnce the backports are done, you can adjust index pages13:41
AJaegerBut for now, get the changes in place so that we gate properly.13:41
Sam-I-Amok cool, thx13:42
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AJaegerSam-I-Am: will you put them on your review queue for later today or should I ping others?13:51
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Sam-I-AmAJaeger: looking at them now13:56
Sam-I-Amhad to get through the openstackclient thing first13:56
AJaeger;)13:56
Sam-I-Amsort of funny that jamielennox wrote it, and he's about the worst person for documenting anything ever :)13:56
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AJaegerthere's always hope ;)14:01
Sam-I-Ami'm still trying to get keystone middleware documented properly14:02
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openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: The tenant id response is not optional  https://review.openstack.org/25589014:10
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Report bugs against openstack-api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25572414:23
AJaegerannegentle: updated   https://review.openstack.org/255729  - thanks for the reviw14:24
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annegentlethanks AJaeger14:27
annegentleon the road again! :)14:27
annegentleback later14:27
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [README.rst] Update the documentation contributor guide link  https://review.openstack.org/25590714:30
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the documentation contributor guide link  https://review.openstack.org/25590714:31
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openstackgerritLinette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert lenovo-driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25545414:38
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide for kilo  https://review.openstack.org/25539614:48
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide versioned for liberty  https://review.openstack.org/25539514:50
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openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Drop py26 classifier from setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/25592315:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Publish networking guide versioned  https://review.openstack.org/25539415:10
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert the XtremIO cinder driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25593215:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [Image-guide] Fix the RST mark-ups  https://review.openstack.org/25575815:41
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openstackgerritLinette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert FlashSystem volume driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25595416:02
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Add nova contents for Debian  https://review.openstack.org/25566716:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update the documentation contributor guide link  https://review.openstack.org/25590716:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert lenovo-driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25545416:11
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert EMC VNX driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25597716:45
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Update README with new network addresses.  https://review.openstack.org/25598516:53
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openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321817:01
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openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321817:50
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert the XtremIO cinder driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25593219:10
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert EMC VNX driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25597719:29
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert EMC VNX driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25597719:46
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openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert the XtremIO cinder driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25593219:50
openstackgerritLinette Williams proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert FlashSystem volume driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25595419:54
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openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321820:19
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openstackgerritMark Vanderwiel proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: Add additional openstack client plugins  https://review.openstack.org/25611722:11
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Update share API with multiple changes  https://review.openstack.org/25565722:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert FlashSystem volume driver to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25595422:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/docs-specs: Adds mitaka specification for App developer docs vision  https://review.openstack.org/24666023:43
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