Thursday, 2015-12-03

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [install] Fix Ceilometer Debian install  https://review.openstack.org/25170700:27
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute Hyper-V to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240800:31
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openstackgerritKevin Benton proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for network RBAC feature  https://review.openstack.org/25270501:29
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25146701:29
openstackgerritvenkatamahesh proposed openstack/api-site: [WIP][Dataprocessing-API] Documented the Response parameters of APIs  https://review.openstack.org/25201601:42
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update the links to each hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/25271202:24
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute LXC to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25271402:33
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute QEMU to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25271402:43
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25146703:01
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openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229703:09
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openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229703:26
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add show and update volume metadata  https://review.openstack.org/25273003:43
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add show and update volume metadata  https://review.openstack.org/25273003:45
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute Hyper-V to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240805:25
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/operations-guide: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25276706:22
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix the link of "remove host API"  https://review.openstack.org/25278406:59
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openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229707:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/operations-guide: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25276707:18
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openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute fc and iscsi to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240407:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Senlin developer documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25237407:21
openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229707:22
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix the link of Flavor APIs ref  https://review.openstack.org/25279207:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Update CLI reference for python-ceilometerclient 2.1.0  https://review.openstack.org/25268107:28
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [www-i18n] Move translation site from Transifex to Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25279707:29
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openstackgerritAtsushi SAKAI proposed openstack/api-site: Add docker format to create image on glance v2  https://review.openstack.org/25279807:37
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix flavor and flavor-manage API ref  https://review.openstack.org/25281108:10
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openstackgerritBernd Bausch proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229708:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [www-i18n] Move translation site from Transifex to Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25279708:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Add option to skip snapshot cycles  https://review.openstack.org/25109308:29
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Release Japanese networking guide  https://review.openstack.org/25281808:33
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Consolidate GlusterFS docu  https://review.openstack.org/25281908:35
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute KVM to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25242709:07
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix flavor-manage API ref  https://review.openstack.org/25281109:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Auto-update ISO_URL  https://review.openstack.org/25111809:47
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: add disk config into request param  https://review.openstack.org/25284909:50
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: rename os-compute-2.1.wadl to os-servers-2.1.wadl  https://review.openstack.org/25285309:55
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute Hyper-V to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240809:57
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Update the links to each hypervisor  https://review.openstack.org/25271209:59
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openstackgerritGhanshyam Mann proposed openstack/api-site: Fix flavor-manage API ref  https://review.openstack.org/25281110:30
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute Hyper-V to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240810:43
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute fc and iscsi to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25240410:44
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute QEMU to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25271410:44
openstackgerritQiming Teng proposed openstack/api-site: Add API doc for clustering service  https://review.openstack.org/25224510:49
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Consolidate GlusterFS docu  https://review.openstack.org/25281910:49
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Rename bash libraries for tox+bashate  https://review.openstack.org/25254611:12
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Add KVM provider (alternative to VirtualBox)  https://review.openstack.org/23344211:19
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Document the custom remote-code-block directive  https://review.openstack.org/25288511:19
openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Add option for VNC console with KVM VMs  https://review.openstack.org/23344411:22
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: WIP: Adds Liberty support.  https://review.openstack.org/25229711:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Fix bashate errors  https://review.openstack.org/25254111:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Simplify tox.ini bashate call  https://review.openstack.org/25254511:33
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Link to ironic-inspector dev documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25291712:20
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstackdocstheme: Add additional conditions for bug report url  https://review.openstack.org/25291912:21
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Link to ironic-inspector dev documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25291712:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/training-labs: Rename bash libraries for tox+bashate  https://review.openstack.org/25254612:57
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openstackgerritAkihiro Motoki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Release Japanese networking guide  https://review.openstack.org/25281813:24
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openstackgerritJosé Eduardo de Carvalho Mello Junior proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Incorrect Platform on HDS driver Documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25297514:26
openstackgerritJosé Eduardo de Carvalho Mello Junior proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Incorrect Platform on HDS driver Documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25297514:27
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openstackgerritOlga Gusarenko proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Added a section about topic-based authoring  https://review.openstack.org/22328714:44
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openstackgerritMaria Zlatkova proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Added a section about topic-based authoring  https://review.openstack.org/22328715:01
openstackgerritKATO Tomoyuki proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Convert compute LXC to RST  https://review.openstack.org/25299715:03
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openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Add KVM provider (alternative to VirtualBox)  https://review.openstack.org/23344215:10
openstackgerritPranav Salunke proposed openstack/training-labs: Add option for VNC console with KVM VMs  https://review.openstack.org/23344415:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Add docker format to create image on glance v2  https://review.openstack.org/25279815:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Added a section about topic-based authoring  https://review.openstack.org/22328716:05
openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Link to ironic-inspector dev documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25291716:06
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Incorrect Platform on HDS driver Documentation  https://review.openstack.org/25297516:20
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sc68calSam-I-Am: I think I found a candidate for tagging, for kilo - 4b9fe08d948ce192dbe2a40e38529bf3b87bea5317:00
Sam-I-Amaaaaaaand over here17:00
sc68calhttp://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-manuals/commit/?id=4b9fe08d948ce192dbe2a40e38529bf3b87bea5317:00
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: how did you determine that?17:01
sc68calscollins@Sean-Collins-MBPr15 ~ » cd src/openstack/openstack-manuals17:01
sc68calscollins@Sean-Collins-MBPr15 ~/src/openstack/openstack-manuals/doc ±master » git log --reverse -- networking-guide17:01
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emaganahello17:02
Sam-I-Amhmmmm17:02
emaganaSam-I-Am and sc68cal do you want to continue the conversation about the tagging?17:03
Sam-I-Amemagana: yea thats what we're doing17:03
Sam-I-Amfiguring out where to make the cut17:03
sc68calemagana: you joined too slow :)17:03
Sam-I-Amas long as its CLOSE i'm happy17:03
Sam-I-Amand mainly includes the scenario updates for kilo17:03
sc68calemagana: 4b9fe08d948ce192dbe2a40e38529bf3b87bea53 of openstack-manuals17:03
emaganaah ok..17:03
sc68calSam-I-Am: because the next commit to the NWG tree is 7d466f3631c1adca0b5f7625c8cf283d1e46717a Merge "[network-guide] Update scenario 4a"17:04
emaganaI have another meeting to attend.. I will leave the IRC open to read your agreements17:04
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Sam-I-Amgehhh why cant i find that sha17:04
Sam-I-Amthe update 4a one17:05
sc68calSam-I-Am: it was a merge commit17:05
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sc68calSam-I-Am: yeah it has to be 4b9fe08d948ce192dbe2a40e38529bf3b87bea5317:05
sc68calSam-I-Am: because the next commit that touches networking guide is bbafef35b2a4a1c3c7ab188829e31e7a72002a96 - where I think annegentle prepped the new networking guide17:06
Sam-I-Amok17:07
Sam-I-Amso far this makes sense17:07
Sam-I-Amand i'm only half caffeinated17:07
sc68calnow 4b9fe08d948ce192dbe2a40e38529bf3b87bea53 does have RST networking guide content17:07
sc68calso maybe we need to go forward in time some more, just before the cutover from the old docbook NWG to the RST one17:07
Sam-I-Ami thought the xml ng was long gone17:08
sc68calSam-I-Am: nah not until May 1st in 5e09a5b4cccb55f23e9998477b2b3c5f0f02727517:08
Sam-I-Amso, in my brain, i recall working my butt off to release the networking guide for juno about a year ago17:08
Sam-I-Amand that was all rst work17:08
Sam-I-Amthen i updated it for kilo (so the juno-specific stuff is gone)17:08
Sam-I-Aminterestingly, the kilo updates are probably done AFTER the release of kilo17:09
Sam-I-Ami have done no updates to scenarios for liberty17:09
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sc68calSam-I-Am: right. So I think the last SHA where we have the old docbook networking guide is b932cfeccc71df2cd6b59c1cd952f6231791142217:09
Sam-I-Amso my guess is you'll need to look somewhere just prior to the liberty release for the cut17:09
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: like here - I6f45092d9de96e70b888a8223823d6e3a9624d9617:11
Sam-I-Amthats my last commit to the networking guide for kilo stuffs17:11
sc68calSam-I-Am: right but that's the new networking guide17:11
sc68calSam-I-Am: are we saying - find the RST networking guide, with kilo content?17:12
Sam-I-Amyeah17:12
sc68calSam-I-Am: ah ok.17:12
Sam-I-Amthere is no docbook networking guide with anyhting useful in it17:12
Sam-I-Amits all crap from eons ago that was mostly moved to rst17:12
Sam-I-Amthe networking guide was born somewhere around icehouse, but we migrated to rst shortly thereafter17:13
Sam-I-Ami dont even think it was published as docbook17:13
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sc68calSam-I-Am: take a look at a0ae81d01ba3d9dbcd02a58ac6ea909b431bb58217:14
sc68calDate:   Fri Aug 28 10:28:22 2015 +000017:14
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: thats reasonable17:15
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: luckily theres not all that many commits to the ng :)17:16
sc68calSam-I-Am: take a look at 623ec46a8db91d9c5df07d8c30afa54f858a39ac too17:16
sc68calbecause the next significant change is 15b0cd148eeba6826b4cd714c9825ce3229514b7 which mentions liberty17:17
Sam-I-Amright, qos would not be in kilo17:18
Sam-I-Amso thats a good one17:18
sc68calso maybe we settle on 1446e9ec5450c0a3849c958b9167f1598308783d - which is just a translation update17:18
sc68calthe last commit before the QoS sub chapter17:18
sc68calthat touched the network-guide tree17:18
Sam-I-Amyeah17:18
Sam-I-Amwe can always backport bits and pieces if we find something that isnt right - like some liberty stuff that leaked in17:19
Sam-I-Amwell, s/backport/directly patch17:19
Sam-I-Amif we can get 99% of it i think we're good17:19
Sam-I-Amthen try to set a date for cutting liberty17:19
Sam-I-Am(which needs to wait for at least scenario updates)17:19
AJaegersc68cal, Sam-I-Am: I only see tagging? What are you trying to do?17:20
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: we are going to version the networking guide17:20
Sam-I-Amlike the install guide17:20
sc68calAJaeger: find a version of the RST networking guide that has kilo content17:21
AJaegerAh...17:21
Sam-I-Amand we have to play a little catch-up17:21
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AJaegerNote we already have kilo and liberty branches...17:21
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: i thought the networking guide was CD17:21
AJaegerSam-I-Am: The branch was done for *all* guides17:21
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: the other issue is that updates for kilo in the networking guide happened after the stable/kilo branch17:22
AJaegerWe only publish conf Reference and Install Guides from the old branches17:22
Sam-I-Amthe last patches being around aug/sep17:22
AJaegerSo, backport to stable/kilo...17:22
AJaegerBut I would do it differently: Branch now a liberty version17:22
AJaegerIgnore kilo17:22
AJaegerI mean: Publish now from stable/liberty17:23
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: problem is stable/liberty has kilo stuff :/17:23
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AJaegerYou have to backport17:23
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sc68calyeah, if we already have branches of openstack-manuals for each release we'll have to go clean it up17:24
sc68caljust check out the branch, make patches, get rid of liberty stuff17:24
AJaegerWhat you have to do is:17:24
sc68cal<for kilo>17:24
AJaeger1) build networking guide on those branches you want (not publish)17:25
AJaeger2) backport patches17:25
AJaeger3) publish master to drafts17:25
AJaeger4) publish stable branches you want17:25
AJaeger5) Add redirect from current location to new liberty location17:25
AJaeger6) Update all index files17:25
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Sam-I-Amthis makes sense17:26
AJaegerand 0) Write a short spec ;)17:26
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AJaegerjust in case that we missed some and have a plan to execute...17:27
Sam-I-Amwhich makes sense... the plan was to determine if/how to do this, then write a spec/bp17:27
sc68calAJaeger: what would we do without you? :)17:27
Sam-I-Amyeah, AJaeger is the infra guy17:28
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: you want to take this business on?17:28
sc68calSam-I-Am: yeah I think I can help. I'm a bit full this week but next week I can take it on17:29
sc68calI may require some handholding though17:29
AJaegershit, I gave you a way forward - instead I hoped to stop you ;)17:29
Sam-I-Amhaha17:29
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: hey you want to do this? :)17:29
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: want me to write the bp/spec so at least thats in play?17:29
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Sam-I-AmAJaeger: oh no you dont17:30
sc68calSam-I-Am: that sounds reasonable17:31
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-site: Updates links to maintained PHP-OpenCloud SDK  https://review.openstack.org/25144917:32
Sam-I-Amsc68cal: aight, i'll get on that17:32
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: sounds like we'd need to individually backport all patches that apply to kilo to stable/kilo?17:33
AJaegerSam-I-Am: individually or as bulk - your call...17:33
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Sam-I-AmAJaeger: bulk would be easier if there's a way17:34
Sam-I-Amwe just pick the latest sha would be nice - sc68cal already found it17:34
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AJaegerSam-I-Am: make one large patch that includes everything between the sha and the branch point and figure out how to do the commit message ;)17:36
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Sam-I-AmAJaeger: i might need a hand figuring out how to do that17:37
Sam-I-Ambut ok, when you get back :)17:37
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/docs-specs: [ops-guide] reorganisation specification  https://review.openstack.org/22766017:40
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: rename os-compute-2.1.wadl to os-servers-2.1.wadl  https://review.openstack.org/25285317:40
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Add show and update volume metadata  https://review.openstack.org/25273017:42
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sc68calSam-I-Am: might be able to do git checkout <SHA> <path_to_networking_guide>17:52
sc68calSam-I-Am: that should pull in the whole tree17:53
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Sam-I-Ami'm not following..17:53
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sc68calSam-I-Am: git checkout supports checking out a directory, based on a revision18:04
sc68calinto your current branch18:04
sc68calso you could be on stable/kilo18:04
sc68caland pull in a whole directory from master, into your branch18:04
sc68calrather than continually doing git cherry-pick18:04
Sam-I-Amoh, weird. didnt know that18:05
Sam-I-Amnot something i've ever had to do18:05
sc68calyeah it's useful18:05
Sam-I-Amgeh @ more neutron issues in #openstack-ansible, and a workaround for o-a, but no neutron bug report :/18:05
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armaxloquacities: ping18:17
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emaganaSam-I-Am and sc68cal: could you give me an update on the tagging discussion?18:27
AJaegerarmax: it's too early for loquacities ...18:28
sc68calemagana: check scrollback18:28
armaxAJaeger: thanks, I was holding my breath18:29
armax:)18:29
armaxI’ll try later18:29
emaganasc68cal: I was trying to save some time  :-(18:29
Sam-I-Amarmax: need something?18:29
Sam-I-Amemagana: tl;dr - we're going to tag18:29
armaxSam-I-Am: I wanted to catch up with her in relation to http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081039.html18:30
armaxSam-I-Am: perhaps you can help?18:30
armaxSam-I-Am: to give me some context?18:30
Sam-I-Amemagana: tl;dr - turns out there's already stable branches, but they dont include the correct content because we updated the net guide for kilo AFTER the kilo release. so we need a mega-backport, then some magic to publish stable releases18:30
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Sam-I-Amarmax: looking18:31
emaganaSam-I-Am: Thanks.. any action items for me on this area?18:32
Sam-I-Amemagana: i am going to write a bp/spec based on AJaeger's steps and sc68cal's suggestion for where to start backporting18:33
Sam-I-Amemagana: then its up for approval and then action18:33
emaganaSam-I-Am: awesome. Please, add me as reviewer18:33
Sam-I-Ami think sc68cal volunteered for the backporting business... and AJaeger to help with infra bits18:33
sc68calSam-I-Am: sc68cal was volunteered18:33
emaganaSam-I-Am: I have core rights on docs-specs :-)18:34
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sc68calarmax: I just posed a question to the ML - but it looks like it might have been better not as a new topic, but a reply to the DocImpact thread18:35
armaxsc68cal: ah!18:35
armaxsc68cal: point me to it, would you be a lamb, please?18:35
sc68calarmax: yessir18:35
armaxsc68cal: for ever obliged18:36
sc68calarmax: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/081303.html18:36
* Sam-I-Am reads that one too18:36
armaxsc68cal: ok, let me reply in a bit18:36
AJaegerSam-I-Am: you shouldn't need my help at all. I volunteered to review ;)18:36
Sam-I-AmAJaeger: the publishing bits18:37
AJaegerBut I can do the publishing steps - 1,3,418:37
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal armax the way i see it, anything not specific to developers should go into the central docs18:38
Sam-I-Ambit different issue than docimpact18:38
armaxSam-I-Am: agreed, but that’s what docimpact was used for18:39
sc68calSam-I-Am: right - but the issue is we have some stuff being submitted to devref about a feature someone wants to work on in the future18:39
armaxno?18:39
sc68calwhich I though was the point of specs18:39
Sam-I-Amthe intent of docimpact was to note when a patch needed documentation, and then hope someone from that project (or a liaison in docs) would address the documentation18:39
armaxat least so far18:39
Sam-I-Amwhat happened with docimpact - devs would use it to toss documentation over the fence and never write anything, except maybe something in devref18:39
armaxsc68cal: well, not entirely, but I see your point18:40
armaxSam-I-Am: true, but perhaps because for doc writers it was difficult to infer from the docimpact what the impact was about18:40
Sam-I-Amthe docs team is small and covers all projects, so none of us can thoroughly understand some obscure python code to determine if it needs docs and where they should go18:40
armaxSam-I-Am: we mostly used to track policy or config changes18:40
armaxSam-I-Am: so it should have been easy18:41
armaxso I like the new process were we add the one liner next to the flag18:41
armaxbut as for the devref18:41
armaxsince it lives in the code itself18:41
Sam-I-Amwhat should really happen is a policy change - no docs, no merge. both devref and central docs.18:41
armaxadding a flag to the commit message to raise a bug that can be ‘fixed’ in the context of the same patch seems overkill18:42
Sam-I-Ampart of the reason devs like to stuck stuff in devref is because it was rst and in their own tree, not docbook/xml in someone else's tree18:42
Sam-I-Amso we switched the central docs to rst18:42
Sam-I-Amideally, if the patch includes docs, it would not include the docimpact flag18:42
Sam-I-Amas it should touch whatever it impacts18:42
Sam-I-Ambut we seldom see anyone do that18:43
Sam-I-Amits patch+docimpact -> fire and forget18:43
Sam-I-Amso the idea with the new docimpact opening a bug in the project repo is if you dont write docs, there's another bug that reminds you something needs docs18:43
Sam-I-Amwhether thats devref or upstream18:44
armaxright18:44
Sam-I-Amimo, a liaison of sorts (like emagana) could also tag a bug as also-affects openstack-manuals, or simply move the bug to openstack-manuals18:44
armaxso long as we assume that not everything must go in the devref18:44
armaxthen I can see the point18:44
armaxbut that wasn’t what loquacities seemed to imply18:45
Sam-I-Amyeah, devref is dev stuff only - like how to contribute, classes/modules, etc18:45
armaxthat’s why I wanted to clarification18:45
armaxclarfiy18:45
armaxclarify18:45
Sam-I-Amif its something a user or operator would want to read (like config directives) it would go in openstack-manuals18:45
armaxit’s an extra level of screening if you will18:45
armaxtargeting doc bugs to our repo if you will18:46
armaxI mean18:46
Sam-I-Amthere should be no oper/user material in the devref... and i think it probably needs an audit to see what belongs in openstack-manuals18:46
Sam-I-Amand to sc68cal's comment, there should be no feature discussion in there either - thats for specs18:46
armaxit’d be nice if the openstack bot could ad a ‘doc’ tag to the bug18:46
Sam-I-Amarmax: in what sense?18:46
armaxAJaeger: is difficult or frowned upon would that be?18:46
armaxSam-I-Am: in a case like this one18:47
armaxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/152217618:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1522176 in neutron " Fix options for pluto per-peer logging" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:47
armaxrather than let a human add the tag18:47
Sam-I-Amzigo: not sure if you were editing the debian testing etherpad but i added some questions/comments to what you added18:47
armaxI could have the bot submitter add the tag18:47
AJaegerarmax: haven't looked at our doc implementation and thus can't advise18:47
armaxso that I can go at a later date and do a big sweep18:47
armaxAJaeger: gotcha18:47
armaxSam-I-Am: no biggie, I mean I can filter by submitter and bug description that contains DocImpact, but it’s clunky18:48
Sam-I-Amarmax: oh, so an autogenerated bug from docimpact includes something that says it is docs only?18:48
Sam-I-Ambecause the autogen bug wont have docimpact in it18:48
Sam-I-Amseems like there should be a way to add a tag automatically during the autogen18:49
Sam-I-Amlike doug did for that bug you posted18:49
armaxSam-I-Am: I assume that’s how bugs are reported18:50
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armaxSam-I-Am: from the patches that have DocImpact18:50
Sam-I-Amyes18:50
armaxand the description looks to be the commit message18:50
AJaegerarmax: oh, you meant the script that creates bugs in launchpad?18:50
armaxAJaeger: ya18:50
Sam-I-Amdocimpact used to trigger a bug in openstack-manuals that looked the same way - just a commit message. its horrible :/18:50
armaxSam-I-Am: I suppose there’s the easy and the hard way18:51
Sam-I-Amdifference with putting them in neutron repo - the person who wrote the patch can address the docs more easily than the docs team18:51
Sam-I-Amlike i have no idea what that patch does18:51
Sam-I-Amand i'm pretty fluent in neutron18:51
armaxSam-I-Am: I hear you18:51
AJaegerjeepyb jeepyb/cmd/notify_impact.py - and it tags already with repository name18:51
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AJaegerarmax: shouldn't be too hard to add a "doc" to it as well...18:51
armaxSam-I-Am: so, yes the extra level of screening is helpful18:51
ericksonsantosbut I'm new and I don't know where to put it18:52
AJaegerarmax: go for it ;)18:52
armaxAJaeger: nice18:52
armaxI am going to dive in18:52
armaxnot before my so beloved Mileston scrubbing18:52
Sam-I-Amarmax: if the contributor wrote the docs at the same time, they wouldnt need to use docimpact18:52
Sam-I-Amhence no additional bug18:52
armaxSam-I-Am: if and only if the doc belonged to the devref18:52
armaxSam-I-Am: as I did state on the thread18:53
Sam-I-Amno, they could go in openstack-manuals18:53
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armaxotherwise, it’s cleraly an openstack-manuals action18:53
armaxbut I can see that having a bug filed against our project is an incentive to screen it and pass it on18:53
Sam-I-Amthe docs would need to go in openstack-manuals, but that patch could tag the neutron bug i think18:53
armaxif it targeted a different project, there’s the tendency to forget18:54
Sam-I-Amyep18:54
armaxSam-I-Am: yes18:54
ericksonsantosHi guys! I'm working on a documentation about a feature that was merged in cinder in liberty release (nested quotas). But I'm new and I don't know right folder to put it.18:54
Sam-I-Amwhich is why bugs can move too, or do also-affects openstack-manuals. then tag the bug with that patch.18:54
armaxSam-I-Am: ok, let’s see what loquacities says when she becomes available18:54
Sam-I-Amarmax: sure. that'll be in about 3-4 hours18:54
Sam-I-Amarmax: hopefully i make some sense :)18:54
Sam-I-Amits been a long hard morning so far18:54
ericksonsantos(sorry, if I send the same message twice, it is because I got disconnected, so I don't know if the message was sent)18:55
armaxwhat timezone is that?18:55
armaxHawaii?18:55
armax:)18:55
Sam-I-Amarmax: brisbane18:55
openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed openstack/training-labs: Add KVM provider (alternative to VirtualBox)  https://review.openstack.org/23344218:55
armaxnice nonetheless18:55
armaxSam-I-Am: we all make sense togethere18:55
armaxtaken individually...18:55
armaxwe’re useless18:55
armaxare we not?18:55
Sam-I-Amlol18:55
Sam-I-Amgroup unicorn rainbows18:55
armaxand you have a pretty picture18:55
armaxtake the unicorn alone and it’s just a hourse with something sticking out of its nose18:56
armax*horse18:56
Sam-I-Amhaha18:56
Sam-I-Amalright, off to my next troubleshooting mess - linuxbridge + l2pop +/- l3ha = ???18:57
Sam-I-Amor even linuxbridge - l2pop = ???18:57
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Sam-I-Amsc68cal: lol19:00
Sam-I-Amget back over here captain linuxbridge19:00
sc68calyeah guess I can't escape that title now19:00
sc68calI looked at this graph and shit a brick19:00
sc68calhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/dashboards/check.dashboard.html19:00
sc68calthat blue spike in the bottom left image is the LB job19:01
Sam-I-Amugggh19:01
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Sam-I-Amwe need to figure out whats up there19:02
Sam-I-Amalso linuxbridge multinode MOARR19:02
AJaegerericksonsantos: for whom is the feature? Our guides target different audience, see http://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/content-specs.html19:03
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openstackgerritRoger Luethi proposed openstack/training-labs: Add KVM provider (alternative to VirtualBox)  https://review.openstack.org/23344219:18
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AJaeger#success The Networking Guide has been translated into Japanese, read it at http://docs.openstack.org/ja/networking-guide/19:27
openstackstatusAJaeger: Added success to Success page19:27
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/docs-specs: Adds mitaka specification for App developer docs vision  https://review.openstack.org/24666019:39
openstackgerritAnne Gentle proposed openstack/docs-specs: Adds mitaka specification for App developer docs vision  https://review.openstack.org/24666019:40
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Import neutron RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25316819:48
gpocentekAJaeger: ^19:48
AJaegerthanks, gpocentek !19:48
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [autohelp] Simple neutron handling  https://review.openstack.org/25317219:54
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Manila cleanup  https://review.openstack.org/25317520:04
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Document the custom remote-code-block directive  https://review.openstack.org/25288520:05
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [autohelp] Simpler neutron handling  https://review.openstack.org/25317220:05
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Config-Ref-RST to draft index  https://review.openstack.org/25317920:07
AJaegergpocentek: I'm missing doc/config-ref-rst/source/tables/neutron-lbaas_agent.rst20:13
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-doc-tools: [autohelp] Simple neutron handling  https://review.openstack.org/25317220:15
gpocentekAJaeger: let me check...20:15
* AJaeger checks as well20:16
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AJaegergpocentek: that option is not anymore in flagmappings, I'll remove20:17
gpocentekok20:18
AJaegerstrange, the neutron-lbaas repo has etc/lbaas_agent.ini ...20:18
AJaegersomething is broken20:18
gpocentekas usual :(20:19
gpocentekAJaeger: I'm going to update the patch20:20
AJaegerthanks20:21
gpocentekthese configs are insane20:21
AJaeger;(20:22
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gpocentekloadbalancer_state_path20:23
gpocenteksorry20:23
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Import neutron RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25316820:25
* AJaeger rebases again to check20:26
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AJaegerstill no file lbaas_agent20:27
gpocentekI forgot to git add...20:27
AJaeger;)20:27
openstackgerritGauvain Pocentek proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Import neutron RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25316820:28
* AJaeger rebases and runs tox...20:28
gpocentekAJaeger: I have a new problem to solve :)20:29
gpocentekI discussed with Eduardo about the manila tables20:29
AJaegerI think we have the same problem with cinder, they use the same approach20:30
gpocentekthe manila does make a good point with their manual section20:30
gpocentekand the difference with cinder is that manila doesn't work without this new section20:30
AJaegerso, in cinder it's optional?20:31
gpocentekI thihnk so, yes20:31
AJaegerah...20:31
gpocentekit becomes mandatory if you configure several backends20:31
AJaegerwhat about doc/config-ref-rst/source/tables/neutron-ca.rst ? Not in your change either20:31
gpocentekgrrr20:32
AJaegerxml table was regenerated ages ago, let me do some history search20:33
gpocentekthe options don't seem to be there anymore20:33
gpocentekAJaeger: I'm not sure that comparing with the XML tables will give you the best results20:34
AJaegerexactly and we forgot to remove the XML20:34
AJaegergpocentek: I'm just trying to get my change working ;)20:34
gpocentekah :)20:34
AJaegerremoving octavia was fine - now removed the ca file as well...20:34
AJaegerLet's see what else is missing...20:34
gpocentekI thought you were just checking the tables20:34
AJaegerno, not at all...20:35
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AJaegergit review -d 253168;git review -x 251103;tox -e build -- config-ref-rst20:35
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AJaegercomplain or edit files and run tox again...20:35
gpocentek:)20:35
AJaegerworking ;)20:35
openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: WIP: [config-ref] Networking sections  https://review.openstack.org/25110320:36
gpocentekwoohoo20:36
AJaegerso, this builds locally ^20:36
AJaegerthanks!20:36
gpocentekthank you :)20:36
* AJaeger is glad that he didn't convert section_networking-plugins.xml so far - now it will be much shorter ;)20:37
gpocentekAJaeger: about the manila table, we could add some custom treatment to change the section for some options20:37
gpocentekbut it's even more tweaking to generate the tables20:37
AJaegeryep, create an artificial section DRIVER_NAME20:38
AJaegeruse in flagmappings DRIVER_NAME instead of DEFAULT, and match that against DEFAULT and output DRIVER_NAME?20:38
AJaegeror a flag...20:38
gpocentekon one hand I want to stop working on this script, but on the other hand I think it does make sense for the manila use case20:38
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gpocentekAJaeger: something like that, yes20:39
AJaegerask Atsushi SAKAI for help, he has done some work there....20:39
openstackgerritjichenjc proposed openstack/api-site: rename os-compute-2.1.wadl to os-servers-2.1.wadl  https://review.openstack.org/25285320:39
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gpocentekit's just more code to maintain, whoever writes it... but I guess it's our job :)20:40
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: rename os-compute-2.1.wadl to os-servers-2.1.wadl  https://review.openstack.org/25285320:53
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: Changing the json request message in api-ref networking  https://review.openstack.org/24807920:56
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openstackgerritAndreas Jaeger proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Networking sections  https://review.openstack.org/25110321:00
AJaegergpocentek: I'm using lots of your new tables ^ ;)21:00
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: (WIP) Spell-check and remove passive voice from api-site  https://review.openstack.org/25146721:06
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openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321821:12
openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321821:14
openstackgerritErickson Filipe Guedes dos Santos proposed openstack/openstack-manuals: Add documentation for Nested Quotas on Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/25321821:15
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: [Telemetry-v2-API] Documented the response parameters of Alarms, Events  https://review.openstack.org/25171421:17
openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: [Telemetry-v2-API] Documented the response parameters of Alarms, Events  https://review.openstack.org/25171421:18
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darrenchi everyone, the ops-guide team meeting will be starting in 7 minutes in #openstack-meeting-321:25
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: [config-ref] Import neutron RST tables  https://review.openstack.org/25316821:35
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openstackgerritDiane Fleming proposed openstack/api-site: rename os-compute-2.1.wadl to os-servers-2.1.wadl  https://review.openstack.org/25285322:05
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Add Config-Ref-RST to draft index  https://review.openstack.org/25317922:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstack-manuals: Document the custom remote-code-block directive  https://review.openstack.org/25288522:52
calebbhi everyone, I was looking at the user-guide http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/ and noticed that there are no screenshots, not even for the dashboard docs, is this intentional? do you want screenshots?23:03
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reedannegentle, Sam-I-Am: do you have any thoughts on screenshots in the user guide?23:28
reedI and calebb realized there are none, we're wondering why: are they simply bad practice or too hard to maintain or something else?23:29
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bmossreed, calebb: There are two main reasons for no screenshots: maintenance is difficult, and they do not translate easily into other languages.23:40
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annegentlereed: we use them sparingly as possible. They are hard to maintain for translations especially, and honestly you should only use them as "orienteering" points.23:48
annegentlereed: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/common/log_in_dashboard.html23:48
annegentlereed: and even those are probably out of date23:48
loquacitiesyeah, generally speaking screenshots are bad news23:51
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