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| matthewTheMan_ | hey guys dose the ocata branch of kolla ansible support having an AD back end for user authentication via the multi domain config ? | 05:41 |
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| matthewTheMan_ | i ask cause i have enabled multi domains in the horizon dash board added the following to nano /etc/kolla/keystone/keystone.conf ([identity]domain_specific_drivers_enabled = True domain_config_dir = /etc/keystone/domains) | 05:43 |
| matthewTheMan_ | and set the config in the domains folder named keystone.domainname.conf | 05:44 |
| matthewTheMan_ | and i still cant seem to get a user list back from AD | 05:44 |
| matthewTheMan_ | however if you run and ldap query within the keystone container you get the expected users back | 05:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Thomas Morin proposed openstack/governance master: Add openstack/neutron-interconnection to neutron https://review.openstack.org/599428 | 07:06 |
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| lbragstad | melwitt WIP patch for oslo.limit enforcement (including the verification path) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/596520/6 | 16:13 |
| melwitt | ack, thanks | 16:14 |
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| lbragstad | i just realized this... but does the service expect oslo.limit to clean up in the event something happens between when the claim is made and the limit is over quota for cleanup? | 16:14 |
| lbragstad | (the race condition case) | 16:15 |
| melwitt | I didn't think so | 16:15 |
| melwitt | but I didn't think about what it would involve for oslo.limit to do it | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | yeah - me either... | 16:15 |
| lbragstad | i was reviewing that patch and i noticed with verification path | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | if a race condition happens, we can detect that by using the usage callback provided by the service, yeah? | 16:16 |
| melwitt | yeah, I think it couldn't in all cases actually, because that would require fine-grained API delete access for every resource.. | 16:16 |
| lbragstad | but if we're already in __exit__ (of the context manager) and we detect that case, oslo.limit doesn't know anything about dealing with those resources | 16:17 |
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| melwitt | trying to think how the flow works. I call enforce, then I create a resource, then call verify, if verify fails, I delete the resource and raise 403 limit exceeded | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | yeah | 16:18 |
| lbragstad | that'd be the ideal case | 16:18 |
| melwitt | makes sense | 16:19 |
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| lbragstad | 1.) call enforce 2.) create resources/fill the claim 3.) call verify 4.) if verify = False, raise 403 | 16:19 |
| lbragstad | is what _would_ happen today | 16:20 |
| melwitt | ok. I'm browsing the patch | 16:20 |
| lbragstad | i might be getting to much into the weeds here | 16:21 |
| lbragstad | but iirc a lot of the justification for the use of a context manager was to make it so that services didn't need to manually implement try/excepts and have a separate verification path | 16:22 |
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| melwitt | yeah, that's what I'm looking at. if the context manager does the verify itself, then how/when do I get to create a resource before the verify fires? | 16:22 |
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| lbragstad | yeah... | 16:24 |
| lbragstad | i'm trying to write up an example quick | 16:24 |
| melwitt | could pass a closure, I guess. ok | 16:24 |
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| lbragstad | this is pretty hacky... https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7 | 16:29 |
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| lbragstad | https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-verify-failure-example-py would try and handle the clean up in oslo.limit | 16:32 |
| lbragstad | https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-verify-success-example-py would try and make the service clean it up | 16:33 |
| lbragstad | the later seems like it defeats the purpose the context manager | 16:33 |
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| lbragstad | the former still requires a little more involvement within the context manager to make sure it knows about what was created and how to clean it up | 16:35 |
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| lbragstad | melwitt what did you have in mind for a closure? | 16:44 |
| melwitt | lbragstad: oh, nevermind me. I was thinking to pass the create + args to get in between the limit check and verify, but the verify happens upon exit so it's fine | 16:45 |
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| lbragstad | ok | 16:46 |
| lbragstad | i assume race verification support is a requirement in order for nova to adopt this? | 16:47 |
| lbragstad | because it's the default today, yeah? | 16:47 |
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| melwitt | yeah, as long as there's some way to do it. I was trying to think if it's necessary for oslo.limit itself to handle it. that is, let's say oslo.limit didn't have verify, we could just do the same thing we're doing now which is, create a resource, then enforce with a claim quantity of 0 and delete and raise if exceeded | 16:49 |
| melwitt | the first example of passing the resource cleanup seems like it would work well, unless I'm missing something | 16:50 |
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| melwitt | and remember there was talk of oslo.limit providing different policies for handling the verify, like etcd based lock instead of the create/recheck strategy, somewhere down the line in the future | 16:51 |
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| melwitt | that was something I thought would be cool about it being in oslo.limit is the lib being able to provide different strategies | 16:51 |
| lbragstad | ok - that makes sense... i suppose if we clean things up with that support in oslo.limit nova could simplify later | 16:53 |
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| lbragstad | also - this is probably operator specific, but what about https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-multiple-resources-py | 16:53 |
| lbragstad | i guess that depends on two things 1.) what developers consider a resource and 2.) what operators consider a resource | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | because they'll ultimately have to match | 16:54 |
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| lbragstad | but if we allow resources to be granular, like cores and ram_mb, then we might need to expand on oslo.limit to handle multiple claims during enforcement | 16:55 |
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| melwitt | yeah, that's how we have to do things currently, create of a server requires checking for instance, cores, and ram limits | 16:56 |
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| lbragstad | ok | 16:56 |
| melwitt | and the claim is for all at the same time | 16:56 |
| lbragstad | that makes sense - i suppose you can support both with granular resources | 16:56 |
| melwitt | so I think when we were talking last time in vancouver, there was a possibility of a claim being able to be on multiple resources (a list of resources) | 16:57 |
| lbragstad | oh - that's an option, too | 16:58 |
| lbragstad | currently, the implementation of ProjectClaim is specific to a single resource, but we can change that | 16:59 |
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| lbragstad | so maybe like this - https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-multiple-resource-single-claim-py | 17:01 |
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| lbragstad | probably doesn't matter to the service as much, but i think i like that from an oslo perspective because it might keep the enforcer simpler | 17:03 |
| lbragstad | by not having to deal with a massive list of claims | 17:03 |
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| melwitt | yeah, I didn't know if oslo.limit, if it knew ahead of time that it needed to enforce resource X, Y, and Z, would it be able to pull the limits for all in one go? | 17:05 |
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| lbragstad | oslo.limit *could* just pull all the limits and filter by project | 17:06 |
| lbragstad | then filter through the resources associated to the claim | 17:06 |
| melwitt | just trying to think if being able to tell all the resources up front could help anything be more efficient | 17:06 |
| lbragstad | i would think so | 17:06 |
| melwitt | ProjectClaim(project, resources=[x, y, z]) | 17:07 |
| lbragstad | yeah - essentially something like that | 17:07 |
| lbragstad | it looks like keystone's limit API does implement filtering by project id https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/d2da06f262db0f47a82b8bb0193f9bae92b59a7f/keystone/api/limits.py#L39 | 17:07 |
| melwitt | and my callback=self.count_x_y_z | 17:08 |
| lbragstad | oh... sure | 17:08 |
| lbragstad | that would make sense, but it would require the service to make new callbacks i think? | 17:09 |
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| lbragstad | and the callback would need to supply all usage in a single return value? | 17:10 |
| melwitt | what do you mean by make new callbacks? (I assumed when I call enforce I have to provide the callback and in the example of creating a server, I claim cores, ram, instance at the same time and also count cores, ram, instance at the same time in the same callback) | 17:11 |
| lbragstad | so - the callback for calculating core usage for a project is going to be different than calculating the memory usage for a project? | 17:11 |
| melwitt | yeah, that's what we currently do, returns a dict that's like {'project': {'ram': 512, 'cores': 1, 'instances': 5}, 'user': {'ram': 0, 'cores': 0, 'instances': 0}} | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | oh! | 17:12 |
| melwitt | since we have to count for project and user because of user quotas | 17:12 |
| melwitt | it's ugly but... | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | i was thinking it was more something like | 17:12 |
| lbragstad | self.calculate_core_usage_for_project() return an integer value | 17:13 |
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| lbragstad | because if ^ was the case, i was going to propose we associate callbacks to the claim resources instead of the enforce | 17:14 |
| melwitt | yeah. that works if each count is separate but we can do a sum(cores), sum(ram), count(id) for counting instance related resources in one query | 17:14 |
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| lbragstad | ah - sure | 17:16 |
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| lbragstad | so https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-multiple-resource-single-claim-py-L27-L49 as opposed to https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/69d28dca8adfa689c00b272d6db8bde7#file-multiple-resource-single-claim-py-L1-L23 | 17:21 |
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| lbragstad | melwitt i think i distilled the discussion early into two bug | 19:15 |
| lbragstad | https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.limit/+bug/1790931 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.limit/+bug/1790935 | 19:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1790931 in oslo.limit "RFE: ProjectClaims should support multiple resources" [Medium,Triaged] | 19:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1790935 in oslo.limit "RFE: Enforcer should optionally handle resource cleanup" [Low,Triaged] | 19:15 |
| lbragstad | let me know if anything is missing there | 19:15 |
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| melwitt | cool, will do. thanks | 19:16 |
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