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| asalkeld | anyone knows if testfixtures has an sys.environ fixture | 02:49 |
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| asalkeld | er, os.environ | 02:50 |
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| [1]Thelo | I am getting the following message while running ./stack.sh ( using the trunk ) : clean_up CreateImage: Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin. Does anyone know how to get rid of this? | 03:03 |
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| clarkb | asalkeld: python-fixtures does | 03:21 |
| clarkb | fixtures.EnvironmentVariable() | 03:22 |
| clarkb | first arg is name second optional arg sets the value | 03:22 |
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| asalkeld | clarkb: thanks | 03:23 |
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| crobertsrh | Anyone else seen "clean_up CreateImage: Could not determine a suitable URL for the plugin" when running devstack's stack.sh? http://paste.openstack.org/show/478387/ I'm seeing this on f22 (master fresh as of yesterday). I'm not seeing anything in any of the service logs error-wise. | 14:43 |
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| ygbo | fungi: Hi, you can also mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa/+bug/1514396 as Wont'Fix just like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ossa/+bug/1422046 Sorry for the noise and thanks a lot for the link and clarification in Incident Report Taxonomy | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1514396 in python-cinderclient "cinder backup-list is always listing all tenants's bug for admin in V1 api" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1422046 in python-cinderclient (Ubuntu) "cinder backup-list is always listing all tenants's bug for admin" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:15 |
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| fungi | ygbo: yep, thanks for the reminder | 15:20 |
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| bknudson | When I do "$ tox -e venv -- reno new keystone-something" it says "ERROR: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe7 in position 2: ordinal not in range(128)". Known problem? | 16:21 |
| bknudson | it still says it created the file. | 16:21 |
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| bknudson | the file got created and I filled it in with some stuff but there's no new note generated and "reno report" doesn't show it. | 16:24 |
| bknudson | must have done something wrong | 16:24 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, this channel has been a wasteland since Keystone got its own channel | 16:27 |
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| bknudson | ayoung: we should move back | 16:27 |
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| ayoung | bknudson, agreed | 16:28 |
| bknudson | liven things up a bit | 16:28 |
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| bknudson | we got kicked out because we were too rowdy | 16:29 |
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| bknudson | I figured it out after reading the docs "Notes are output in the order they are found by git log" | 16:31 |
| bknudson | so I figured maybe I needed to commit the change before it would find it :( | 16:31 |
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| stevemar_ | bknudson: i have a patch up for adding reno stuff | 16:32 |
| bknudson | stevemar_: as far as I can tell it doesn't work | 16:33 |
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| bknudson | maybe because it's only got liberty release notes | 16:34 |
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| stevemar_ | hmm, i did tox -e releasenotes and it worked for me | 16:40 |
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| bknudson | stevemar_: did you try adding a new release note? | 16:40 |
| stevemar_ | at least, it didn't blow up | 16:40 |
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| stevemar_ | i was going to work on that today and start porting over the liberty notes | 16:40 |
| bknudson | if that doesn't work then it's kind of useless | 16:40 |
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| bknudson | stevemar_: how are you going to do the liberty notes? I think they'll have to be done on the stable branch | 16:42 |
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| stevemar_ | bknudson: hmm, i thought they only had to be done in master? | 16:44 |
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| bknudson | stevemar_: how is it going to know if the release note is for liberty or master? according to the docs it does git log | 16:45 |
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| stevemar_ | bknudson: i just realized we're in -dev | 16:47 |
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| bknudson | ok, moving discussion to openstack-release | 17:09 |
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| arosen | zzzeek: I'm curious about this exception I'm seeing if you have a sec: http://logs.openstack.org/64/243364/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-networking-ovn/8b8e52f/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-11-10_01_07_18_922 | 17:30 |
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| arosen | The update port call and this code is wrapped inside of a transaction: with context.session.begin(subtransactions=True): | 17:30 |
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| zzzeek | arosen: yes | 17:30 |
| arosen | and the portbinding here is a cascade on delete: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/db/portbindings_db.py#L29 | 17:31 |
| arosen | so i'm guessing what is occurring here is a port is deleted at the same time it is being updated. | 17:31 |
| zzzeek | arosen: seems plausible | 17:31 |
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| arosen | and when it goes to update the port bindings it rasies: DBReferenceError as the port has already deleted. | 17:32 |
| arosen | zzzeek: i thought the transaction was supported to keep the same read state of the world consistent once it was entered? | 17:32 |
| zzzeek | arosen: well repeatable read would ensure this within the transaction but only if you've read that row already | 17:33 |
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| arosen | ah i see. We probably haven't read this row yet. | 17:34 |
| zzzeek | arosen: also it would have to block here on one side or the other in that case | 17:34 |
| zzzeek | arosen: but also, I never expect isolation modes to do any particular thing exactly, there are so many edges to them and vendor-specific behaviors | 17:34 |
| zzzeek | arosen: i never know if mysql is going to lock, or let it pass, or raise when you go to commit, or waht. the onyl way is to open two mysql consoles and run a test | 17:34 |
| arosen | zzzeek: k, thanks for the info just wanted to double check :) | 17:35 |
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| SurajD | Can somebody review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240661/ this is my first upstream contribution | 18:16 |
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| fungi | i wouldn't say it's harder for an existing project to become official than a new project, more that it's harder for an existing project which isn't already operating in the same manner as the majority of official openstack projects | 21:03 |
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| fungi | existing projects which basically already follow "the openstack way" from inception seem likely to be fairly quickly approved when they apply | 21:05 |
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| clarkb | (and stackforge exists to make that easy) | 21:05 |
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| fungi | if big tent approval is effectively a stamp of "this project operates in the same manner as other official openstack projects" then i don't see why we wouldn't expect to see projects who aren't doing that yet make changes so that the meaning of that stamp is correct | 21:07 |
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| dims | fungi angdraug did bring up multi-node testing way back in july (http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069908.html) | 21:11 |
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| dims | +1 to wrap up the other jobs quickly and get to the point of doing that | 21:11 |
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| clarkb | its important to note its not a stretch | 21:12 |
| clarkb | we have been doing it for almost a year now | 21:12 |
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| clarkb | the hard bits is that it hasn't been consistent as sdague mentioned | 21:12 |
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| bookwar | i was actually planning to have a talk describing this part of Fuel testing process in more details in Tokyo and use it as a base for discussions which should follow, but it wasn't accepted | 21:13 |
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| dims | clarkb i remember magnum folks talked to anteaya about multi-node, who else showed interest in tokyo? | 21:13 |
| clarkb | dims: my point is tokyo isn't important | 21:13 |
| clarkb | this has been a thing for almost a year :) | 21:13 |
| angdraug | dims: fair enough about the other jobs, but I have a major issue with moving the target for Fuel | 21:13 |
| clarkb | nova and neutron both use it | 21:14 |
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| dims | clarkb 2 nodes so far from what i heard | 21:14 |
| clarkb | I even led a session on it | 21:14 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the ptl format change blocked the senlin and monasca approvals :/ | 21:14 |
| clarkb | that would've been the place to bring up extra requirements and goals | 21:14 |
| clarkb | dims: yes urrently 2 nodes | 21:14 |
| dims | bookwar if you have some material already, let's use that to start discussion | 21:14 |
| clarkb | (turns out you can find a lot of broken on just 2 nodes :) ) | 21:14 |
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| dims | should not have waited :) | 21:14 |
| dims | clarkb true | 21:14 |
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| bookwar | dims: yep, it is just the topic is big, so having introductional talk demystifying the whole hing would have helped, so now i need quite a long mail starting from the very beginning | 21:16 |
| bookwar | but i guess we should start somehow | 21:16 |
| sdague | clarkb: so, personally I feel like the multinode story is pretty raw | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | sdague: sure but it doesn't get better by hiding behind it | 21:17 |
| sdague | we have no voting jobs, so d-g regresses periodically breaking them all | 21:17 |
| sdague | clarkb: sure | 21:17 |
| dims | bookwar what's the easiest thing we can do in multinode that's of value to everyone and/or that's not yet being done. i'd start there :) | 21:17 |
| clarkb | we have no voting jobs because no one will fix the bugs | 21:17 |
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| clarkb | and when I do fix them they are allowed to regress before I am allowed to make them voting... | 21:17 |
| clarkb | we hvae a plan now to address that, I am happy it has just been incredibly frustrating as the only person that seems to care enough to have previously turned this into work | 21:17 |
| jeblair | it's quite possible that the current failures/state of the devstack-based multinode jobs are not applicable to fuel | 21:18 |
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| sdague | clarkb: which is part of why we need to get a more unified effort here of this just as it's own workstream | 21:18 |
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| jeblair | though it's also possible that we may need the bridge work that's in devstack-gate in fuel jobs in order for them to actually work; so maybe that needs to be pulled out :) | 21:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yes I think all multinode jobs should end up using that | 21:19 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so maybe it should be ready scripts or something? | 21:19 |
| sdague | and there is no end developer replication model today either | 21:19 |
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| sdague | which is a huge problem | 21:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: getting individual projects to manage networking that owrks in all clouds will be insanity | 21:20 |
| bookwar | jeblair: Fuel CI runs two full ha deployment tests on every commit to fuel-library, and those deployment tests use 6 vm's each, which means each of them takes one hardware server completely for 2,5 hours | 21:20 |
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| dims | clarkb which etherpad would be of value - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit/Mitaka/Etherpads#Infrastructure | 21:20 |
| bookwar | actually 1,5 hour currently | 21:20 |
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| clarkb | dims: it looks like the wiki ate my link | 21:21 |
| clarkb | dims: let me check history | 21:21 |
| jeblair | bookwar: which is well beyond what we're doing now, and possibly something that should wait for zuulv3 for consideration upstream -- our current model for allocating multiple vms is very inefficient. | 21:21 |
| dims | bookwar thats the worst case scenario :) can we do some 3 controller stuff | 21:21 |
| bookwar | so these tests are heavy and demanding, moving them to nodepool would not just mean software reconfiguration but also will add a lot of errors on hardware/virtualization layer and lower level stuff | 21:21 |
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| clarkb | bookwar: we haven't really seen many errors in the low level stuff fwiw | 21:22 |
| clarkb | most of the problems have been in networking (now addressed) and openstack itself | 21:22 |
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| dims | bookwar we have to learn what's there and contribute to getting to that scenario | 21:23 |
| clarkb | dims: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cross-project-multinode-testing | 21:23 |
| dims | clarkb ah thanks | 21:23 |
| bookwar | clarkb: we have to update qemu to the patched version, and libvirt as well, afaik,, and we don't run more then one test on a server as it comes to certain random failures otherwise, because of disk usage issues | 21:24 |
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| bookwar | the networking issue is always interesting: if nodepool provides virtual network foe multinode setup, then to test ha deployment we need a virtual network on top of virtual network, and there are issues in neutron which appear exactly in this case | 21:25 |
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| clarkb | bookwar: can you backup | 21:25 |
| clarkb | bookwar: I think we are making too many assumptions and talking past each other | 21:25 |
| bookwar | so we don't test the actual scenario but this neurton bug completely irrelevant to the test itself | 21:25 |
| clarkb | first question, why are patched versions of those packages necessary? | 21:26 |
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| dims | bookwar i had the same question as clarkb and which packages and versions | 21:26 |
| bookwar | not patched, but updated to more recent version then in ubuntu repo | 21:26 |
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| bookwar | and sorry, that i am throughing things at you right now like this, i will work on a mail with more details and try to collect the history with links and data | 21:27 |
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| angdraug | bookwar: can you put together that email by tomorrow? | 21:28 |
| angdraug | maybe worth taking the timeout and waiting for that? | 21:28 |
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| bookwar | it is 00:30 in my timezone, so timeout is definitely needed :) | 21:29 |
| dims | bookwar angdraug don't want to lose momentum. get some sleep bookwar :) | 21:29 |
| bookwar | i am not sure about tomorrow, but i'll try to come up with something at least for a start | 21:29 |
| clarkb | its worth noting that we don't do tunnels in tunnels | 21:29 |
| clarkb | you only need one layer of tunnel | 21:29 |
| angdraug | +1 on momentum, lets not allow this to linger again | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | for networking which is how neutron works by default | 21:29 |
| clarkb | so its not an issue | 21:30 |
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| dims | clarkb ack | 21:30 |
| jeblair | bookwar: good night! thanks! | 21:30 |
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| clarkb | dims: and wiki is up to date now for that etherpad | 21:36 |
| clarkb | I sweear I started my session via the wiki so not sure how that disappeared | 21:36 |
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| sdague | clarkb: speaking of multinode - here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242489/ is the first pass sanity check of "did we run stuff on all the nodes" | 21:37 |
| sdague | that needs review, conceptual and code | 21:37 |
| sdague | we need something | 21:37 |
| sdague | that is my current best idea | 21:37 |
| clarkb | sdague: Isaw that and didn't really review because I was trying to think of a better way than trolling the logs, but I haven't come up with anything | 21:37 |
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| clarkb | nova api doesn't really expose it so it can't be a test | 21:38 |
| sdague | nope | 21:38 |
| clarkb | er can't be a tempest test assert | 21:38 |
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| sdague | the only thing we could do is build a tempest admin test that: | 21:38 |
| sdague | * lists all the hypervisors | 21:38 |
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| sdague | * boots a node with a scheduler hint to force it to a hypervisor in particular | 21:39 |
| sdague | * see that those went active | 21:39 |
| sdague | that's maybe an option, mtreinish would need to weigh in on it | 21:39 |
| sdague | it's getting a bit near the edge of tempest scope | 21:39 |
| clarkb | ya | 21:40 |
| sdague | I'd be fine with that approach as well if mtreinish wants that in tree | 21:40 |
| clarkb | I am also ok with trolling the logs after thinking about it some | 21:40 |
| clarkb | I will +2 and wait for mtreinish input | 21:40 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: we can add that I guess, but my only concern would be to ensure we make it work for the single hypervisor case too | 21:42 |
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| mtreinish | it is only api driven so it does fit in tempest, although its up against the wall because we're really verifying nova scheduling | 21:43 |
| sdague | mtreinish: right, it's really on the edge | 21:43 |
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| sdague | alternative idea - put a tempest plugin tree in devstack with these tests, and enable them when we want them | 21:45 |
| sdague | which would be the multinode dsvm / grenade jobs | 21:45 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: meh, if we're going do it I think it should live in tempest proper | 21:46 |
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| sdague | mtreinish: ok | 21:46 |
| sdague | well, I'll let you ponder. I need to get sorted for heading out for dinner. If you decide that's the approach you like, I can write it in the morning. | 21:46 |
| sdague | it's kind of the last missing piece before we make the grenade-multinode bit voting | 21:47 |
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| sdague | and start hacking away the partial job | 21:47 |
| sdague | mtreinish: the alternative is the log trawl - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/242489/ | 21:47 |
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| med_ | Roland and Monascans, congrats on the Big Tent. | 22:02 |
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| med_ | welcome | 22:02 |
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| thingee | asselin: ping | 22:24 |
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| thingee | asselin: I heard the repo for os ext testing moved from your original repo? | 22:27 |
| thingee | asselin: can you let me know where I should be directing people now? | 22:27 |
| thingee | asselin: I'm assuming things merged into some infra repo as things planned | 22:30 |
| thingee | fungi: ^ | 22:30 |
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| clarkb | thingee: openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci is the focus now | 22:30 |
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| fungi | what clarkb said while i was eating | 23:03 |
| fungi | it's basically what os ext testing was but encoded into a higher-level puppet module of its own for easier consumption | 23:04 |
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