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| topol | #startmeeting interop_challenge | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 7 14:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is topol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'interop_challenge' | 14:00 |
| markvoelker | o/ | 14:00 |
| topol | Hi everyone, who is here for the interop challenge meeting today? | 14:00 |
| catherine_d|1 | o/ | 14:01 |
| kei | o/ | 14:01 |
| fredli | o/ | 14:01 |
| tongli | o/ | 14:01 |
| topol | #topic review action items from previous meeting | 14:01 |
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| skazi | o/ | 14:01 |
| rohit404 | o/ | 14:01 |
| tongli | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-09-07 | 14:01 |
| topol | #link | 14:02 |
| topol | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-08-31-14.02.html | 14:02 |
| topol | the etherpad tongli posted has our agenda and is also where we can place notes if we need to | 14:03 |
| hj-hpe | Greetings all | 14:03 |
| topol | tongli_ to check with Catherine to identify the cores :-) | 14:03 |
| topol | tongli this was done I believe | 14:04 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 14:04 |
| tongli | @topol, yes. | 14:04 |
| catherine_d|1 | topol: I have also added the name to the etherpad | 14:04 |
| tongli | the link is at the bottom of the etherpad. | 14:04 |
| topol | perfect | 14:04 |
| tongli | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/1076,members | 14:04 |
| luzC | o/ | 14:04 |
| topol | 2. tongli_ and topol to follow up with eeiden on which ATT NFV workload to use | 14:04 |
| topol | any news on an ATT NFV workload? | 14:05 |
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| Gaurav__ | Hi | 14:05 |
| topol | my guess is that is still missing. tongli did you hear anything different? | 14:06 |
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| jkomg | o/ | 14:06 |
| tongli | you mean ATT NFV work load scripts? | 14:06 |
| topol | tongli yes? | 14:06 |
| tongli | no, I did not see any patch. | 14:06 |
| topol | K | 14:07 |
| topol | let's you and I follow up on that | 14:07 |
| topol | #action tongli topol check on ATT NFV workload scripts. | 14:07 |
| tongli | I think we were told last week that the patch should be submitted early this week. | 14:07 |
| topol | K, need to see it soon. Time is getting short | 14:08 |
| topol | 3. catherine_d|1 will add instructions about testing/sending results to the wiki after this meeting | 14:08 |
| topol | This was done correct? | 14:08 |
| catherine_d|1 | topol: that is done | 14:08 |
| topol | great! | 14:08 |
| topol | 4. MarkBaker will write up/point to some docs instructing people how to get going (juju + NFV) | 14:09 |
| topol | did we ever get anything in from MarkBaker | 14:09 |
| catherine_d|1 | #link RefStack testing instructions: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#RefStack_Testing_and_Results_Upload | 14:09 |
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| topol | Im guessing we didnt get anything yet | 14:11 |
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| topol | #action tongli and topol to check with MarkBaker on write up/point to some docs instructing people how to get going (juju + NFV) | 14:11 |
| topol | Now to todays agenda topics :-) | 14:12 |
| topol | #topic Update from meeting with OpenStack Foundation (Lauren, Jonathan, Mark, and hogepodge) | 14:12 |
| topol | So I met with OpenStack Foundation (Lauren, Jonathan, Mark, and hogepodge) yesterday | 14:13 |
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| topol | Foundation is excited about our interop efforts. Jonathan wants an in depth demo. Scheduled for later this week. | 14:13 |
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| topol | Current target for showcasing this work would be 10 minutes of the Keynote on Day 2 | 14:13 |
| Gretchen | phone numbers did not work | 14:14 |
| topol | Keynote session looking for couple more clouds to be used in the keynote session for live demo. | 14:14 |
| topol | Gretchen we dont use phone numbers for this meeting anymore | 14:15 |
| Gaurav__ | do we have link to the demo | 14:15 |
| vkmc | o/ | 14:15 |
| topol | demo for Jonathan will be tongli running both the dockerswarm and LAMPStack workloads on an OpenStack Cloud. | 14:15 |
| topol | Jonathan wants to see really what we have so far | 14:16 |
| fredli | so both the dockerswarm and LAMPStack will be the choices, won't they? | 14:16 |
| rohit404 | topol: do you need others for the demo with Jonathan ? | 14:17 |
| topol | fredli, yes we all agreed to get those worloads working first. | 14:17 |
| tongli | @topol, it will be nice if there is another cloud that I can also use to show that the scripts produce same results against two clouds | 14:17 |
| topol | rohit404, for on stage MOST DEFINITELY :-). for jonathan we could get away with just running on one cloud but multiple clouds would be great | 14:18 |
| tongli | @fredli, the docker swarm one takes less than 30 seconds to complete, for demo, it goes well, I would suggest we use that and the lampstack | 14:18 |
| fredli | topol: thanks | 14:18 |
| topol | so back to main stage thoughts... | 14:19 |
| topol | Have different vendors talk about their interop challenge experience on stage | 14:19 |
| topol | Foundation has asked more clarity on which vendors are testing on private clouds and which on public vlouds | 14:19 |
| topol | #action need to update #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/interop-challenge-meeting-2016-08-17 with this information | 14:20 |
| topol | please mention if you are testing on a public or private cloud (or both) | 14:20 |
| topol | Foundation asked if we might be able to utilize the Deutsche Telekom cloud in Europe. They thought Huawei was working on this cloud? | 14:22 |
| topol | Foundation also asked/desired that our workloads be contributed to the app catalog | 14:22 |
| topol | So things have started to get exciting!!! | 14:23 |
| Rockyg | fredli, will take the action to find out about the DT cloud. | 14:23 |
| peterscraig | Mirantis is planning to implement the tests as a Murano app you can just add from the Community App Catalog to any cloud running Murano and run | 14:23 |
| topol | Rockyg, GREAT! | 14:24 |
| topol | peterscraig, GREAT! | 14:24 |
| topol | #action fredli, will take the action to find out about the DT cloud. | 14:24 |
| fredli | yes, I will take it. | 14:24 |
| topol | #action Mirantis is planning to implement the tests as a Murano app you can just add from the Community App Catalog to any cloud running Murano and run | 14:25 |
| topol | okay so housekeeping options. we demo to Jonathan tomorrow at 4pm EST. If anyone wants invited to this meeting please email me | 14:26 |
| topol | would any other teams be in a position to demo tomorrow as well? | 14:26 |
| topol | If tongli has us all covered :-) | 14:26 |
| topol | err If not tongli has us all covered :-) | 14:26 |
| markvoelker | topol: Are you doing the demo tomorrow over WebEx or Hangouts or something? I could possibly demo on one of our internal lab setups if so. | 14:27 |
| topol | Any interest in attending? It will be a conf call and web conf meeting for Jonathan | 14:27 |
| rohit404 | topol: i have run one of the workloads so could show that | 14:27 |
| topol | tongli you have a hangouts correct? | 14:27 |
| jkomg | Would an IBM meeting be easier, screenshare-wise? | 14:28 |
| tongli | hangouts have changed a lot. now it uses youtube stuff. I tried to do things yesterday,it did not work. | 14:28 |
| jkomg | or whatever people use | 14:28 |
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| jkomg | We stopped using hangouts | 14:28 |
| tongli | I think we have to fall back to our e-meeting. | 14:28 |
| tongli | we just allow eternal access. | 14:28 |
| jkomg | access forever! | 14:29 |
| tongli | should work on linux, mac and windows browsers. | 14:29 |
| jkomg | linux can't screenshare, mind, but they can view. | 14:29 |
| Jason____ | where is the access information ? | 14:29 |
| tongli | right. | 14:29 |
| tongli | I will drive, you guys can see the screen. | 14:29 |
| topol | yeah but what it markvoelker and others want to demo too | 14:29 |
| * Rockyg hands jkomg a flower and a torch | 14:29 | |
| tongli | I know. | 14:30 |
| topol | err what if | 14:30 |
| jkomg | heh | 14:30 |
| tongli | I do not know, google hangout now is hard to use. I could not get it going after 15 minutes trying. | 14:30 |
| tongli | so I give it up. | 14:30 |
| topol | markvoelker do you have a better webconf tool you recommend? | 14:31 |
| markvoelker | I can donate a WebEx if that helps | 14:31 |
| jkomg | webex would be much better | 14:31 |
| Rockyg | webex could work | 14:31 |
| topol | Let's try that. | 14:31 |
| tongli | that is fine. I have webex plugins already. | 14:31 |
| topol | tongli can you connect with markvoelker and Rockyg and do a test to make sure webex works for all of you? | 14:32 |
| topol | ideally all plugins uopdated/installed before the meeting with Jonathan | 14:32 |
| tongli | yes, mark and Rockyg, please send me the info and I want to try to share my screen before the meeting. | 14:32 |
| tongli | can we do it later today? | 14:32 |
| tongli | or after this meeting. | 14:33 |
| topol | markvoelker can you send me the webex details and I will put them in the meeting notice? | 14:33 |
| markvoelker | tongli: Ok, I'll send something out in a bit. The meeting is 4pm EDT tomorrow, correct? | 14:33 |
| tongli | yes | 14:33 |
| topol | markvoelker correct! | 14:33 |
| * Rockyg backs slowly out of the room and points to markvoelker waving his webex flag.... | 14:33 | |
| tongli | @markvoelker, I have also submitted a patch to address the issues that you reported. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366784/ | 14:34 |
| luzC | markvoelker +1 | 14:34 |
| topol | #action tongli Rockyg markvoelker to do webex demo dry run | 14:34 |
| topol | #action all email topol (btopol@us.ibm.com) if you want invited to the demo session | 14:34 |
| tongli | @markvoelker, please review. if I can get the cores to review faster, | 14:34 |
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| Rockyg | ok. i can be a thirdparty for the experiment | 14:34 |
| topol | that brings us to our next and very critical topic: | 14:35 |
| topol | #topic Tong needs to test on other folks public clouds ASAP. | 14:35 |
| topol | The foundation is excited about our work. We need to deliver. And we need to show the workloads targeting multiple public OpenStack clouds | 14:36 |
| tongli | @topol, I have talked to shihao (Jason) from Huawei, to get them going. | 14:36 |
| tongli | @topol, we will have a call soon. | 14:36 |
| Jason____ | @tong , thanks , i hope have to talk with you later about the issues | 14:36 |
| topol | who has these? Can we get a free access trial account? | 14:36 |
| topol | topol ready to bust out his credit card if need be | 14:37 |
| topol | #action all we need to identify which public clouds we can target for both testing and on stage demo | 14:38 |
| topol | so please everyone find us some clouds and report back | 14:38 |
| Rockyg | Do we have anyone from OVH here? They provides some of the nodepool... | 14:38 |
| markvoelker | OVH has been offering free time on their public cloud to openstack committers, so no need for credit cards. =) | 14:39 |
| topol | tongli ^^^ | 14:39 |
| topol | markvoelker please help to connect tongli to this :-) | 14:39 |
| markvoelker | tongli: https://thanks.ovh/weareopenstack/ | 14:40 |
| tongli | what is OVH? | 14:40 |
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| tongli | not working any more. | 14:40 |
| tongli | no more voucher available. | 14:41 |
| topol | what about OSIC? | 14:41 |
| tongli | @topol, I will try that. | 14:42 |
| hogepodge | I can ask about osic | 14:42 |
| topol | tongli I'll bust out the credit card for RAX for you later today | 14:42 |
| luzC | we are going to test on OSIC | 14:42 |
| topol | hogepodge thanks! appreciate the help | 14:42 |
| luzC | it is private | 14:42 |
| luzC | not public | 14:42 |
| catherine_d|1 | I will connect with Jean-Daniel Bonnetot from OVH and inviting them to join Inetop-Challenge | 14:43 |
| topol | luzC thats ok. | 14:43 |
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| topol | The sooner we can show the workloads running on mutliple clouds the better | 14:44 |
| luzC | if you want a new project on osic to test further https://osic.org/clusters | 14:44 |
| topol | So given we will get some keynote stage presence please everyone focus on getting the first two workloads running. Let's get everyone to that point | 14:45 |
| topol | Does that make sense to everyone? | 14:45 |
| topol | that brings us to our next topic. | 14:46 |
| Jason____ | what's the two workloads ? | 14:46 |
| topol | dockerswarm and LampStack | 14:46 |
| Jason____ | ok | 14:47 |
| topol | Jason___ you know where to find the workloads yes? | 14:47 |
| Jason____ | not yet , but i will talk with tongli later | 14:47 |
| markvoelker | Jason___: see git repo links in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Interop_Challenge#Where.2FHow_to_Share_Test_Results if not. | 14:47 |
| luzC | Jason___ https://github.com/openstack/osops-tools-contrib/ | 14:47 |
| Jason____ | done | 14:47 |
| topol | #topic test runs and results | 14:47 |
| Jason____ | ok | 14:48 |
| topol | So I know tongli has sent his results in. Has anyone else? Anyone close? Anyone stuck? | 14:48 |
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| topol | markvoelker you are close, yes? | 14:49 |
| markvoelker | topol: tongli and I have discussed VMware's results (and he has some patches up to fix some portability issues) | 14:49 |
| topol | markvoelker excellent | 14:49 |
| * topol I count that as close! | 14:49 | |
| rohit404 | topol: i have run one of the workloads and we fixed an issue with that as well | 14:49 |
| markvoelker | Basically the workloads assume a certain block storage device name and NIC name that aren't portable as they depend on the hypervisor and guest os | 14:49 |
| rohit404 | will be running the second workload soon | 14:49 |
| tongli | @markvoelker, the patch is there, just need someone to review, you can extract it to test if you like to | 14:49 |
| topol | markvoelker, yep tongli told me | 14:49 |
| topol | rohit404 Excellent | 14:50 |
| markvoelker | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366784/ patches to fix device naming assumptions | 14:50 |
| topol | So everyone please keep going. Let's get everyone to the two workload milestone | 14:50 |
| pilgrimstack1 | Hi from OVH | 14:50 |
| pilgrimstack1 | How can I help? | 14:51 |
| catherine_d|1 | topol:eralier we talk about public cloud .. | 14:51 |
| topol | hi pilgrimstack1. how much do you know about our interop challenge for the Barcelona Summit? | 14:51 |
| pilgrimstack1 | hmmm almost nothing | 14:52 |
| catherine_d|1 | pilgrimstack1: is from OVH public cloud | 14:52 |
| topol | Our plan (as part of the keynote on day 2) will show that OpenStack provides interoperability by showing that workloads are portable to different clouds | 14:52 |
| topol | We have two workloads already available. A docker swarm workload and a LAMPStack workload. | 14:53 |
| pilgrimstack1 | catherine_d|1: I'm checking the wiki | 14:53 |
| topol | Foundation has asked us to show them working on lots of public clouds. | 14:53 |
| topol | Can we get access to yours to test now and demo later in Barcelona? | 14:54 |
| topol | pilgrimstack1 while you ponder lets goto open discussion | 14:55 |
| topol | #topic open discussion | 14:55 |
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| Rockyg | Could probably get more cloud volunteers by posting to openstack-ops ML | 14:56 |
| topol | Rockyg that's a great idea | 14:56 |
| topol | could you reach out? | 14:56 |
| catherine_d|1 | Rockyg: openstack ops ML is a private ML ... not everyone can post | 14:56 |
| catherine_d|1 | need someone from that ML to post .. | 14:57 |
| Rockyg | not private, you just hav to be a member | 14:57 |
| Rockyg | I can post. | 14:57 |
| pilgrimstack1 | topol: yes, of course | 14:57 |
| catherine_d|1 | Rockyg: asked but no reply yet | 14:57 |
| topol | Rockyg THANKS! | 14:57 |
| catherine_d|1 | Rockyg: +1 | 14:58 |
| pilgrimstack1 | can I run it too? | 14:58 |
| topol | pilgrimstack1 Excellent! Can you get tongli access | 14:58 |
| Rockyg | I can point them to wiki if you put up a section on how to volunteer a cloud acct/who to contact | 14:58 |
| topol | pilgrimstack1 yes please | 14:58 |
| topol | tongli can show you how to run it as well | 14:58 |
| tongli | @pilgrimstack1, yeah, totally, | 14:59 |
| topol | #action Rockyg to post request for clouds to openstack-ops ML | 14:59 |
| topol | #action catherine_d|1 to provide new wiki section for volunteer a cloud acct/who to contact | 14:59 |
| topol | #action pilgrimstack1 to run workload and also get tongli acess | 15:00 |
| topol | this is excellent progress! | 15:01 |
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| topol | anything else for today? and please email me btopol@us.ibm.com if you want invited to demo tomorrow | 15:01 |
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| topol | K, great meeting everyone! Thanks! | 15:02 |
| Rockyg | thanks! | 15:02 |
| topol | #endmeeting | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 7 15:02:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-09-07-14.00.html | 15:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-09-07-14.00.txt | 15:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/interop_challenge/2016/interop_challenge.2016-09-07-14.00.log.html | 15:02 |
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| Jason____ | `thanks, bye everyone | 15:07 |
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| gema | eglute: cannot make it to today's meeting, but I am around if you guys need anything | 16:04 |
| gema | will read the logs later | 16:04 |
| eglute | thanks gema! | 16:04 |
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| Rockyg | Just a quickie. The email thread started by Huawei and responded to by Monty will be expanded soon. I'm sill catching up after travel and vacation | 16:51 |
| eglute | thanks Rockyg | 16:52 |
| vkmc | hey there, trying to run the refstack suite and I'm getting this http://paste.openstack.org/show/567585/ | 18:02 |
| vkmc | the dependency is installed | 18:02 |
| vkmc | am I missing any step there? | 18:02 |
| vkmc | k, not sure what was going on but I solved creating a venv | 18:13 |
| tongli | @markvoelker, mark, can we try the webex meeting? | 19:18 |
| markvoelker | tongli: sure, try this one: http://vmware.webex.com/meet/mvoelker | 19:26 |
| tongli | @markvoelker, in. | 19:27 |
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| tongli | @markvoelker, do you have to grant me the permission so that I can share? | 19:28 |
| markvoelker | I can see your screen. =) | 19:28 |
| tongli | what? | 19:28 |
| markvoelker | You are already sharing | 19:29 |
| tongli | my goodness. | 19:29 |
| tongli | ok. I stopped sharing. | 19:29 |
| tongli | I think we are good to go. | 19:29 |
| markvoelker | yep, confirmed. Thanks! | 19:29 |
| tongli | can more people join in? | 19:29 |
| markvoelker | sure | 19:29 |
| tongli | brad will send out an email. | 19:30 |
| tongli | should he use his call # or use this call #? | 19:30 |
| markvoelker | Actually I just sent him a note about that. Doesn't matter to me, but it would probably be less confusing to use the built-in one. | 19:30 |
| tongli | k. | 19:31 |
| markvoelker | catherine_d|1: so about those admin credentials...does it matter? | 19:33 |
| catherine_d|1 | its only that Cloud like OVH would not be able to run with admin credential and the pass test will be half of that about 650 or so ... | 19:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | we just need to know the reason why the number of pass tests are different | 19:34 |
| catherine_d|1 | Not a problem at all .. | 19:35 |
| markvoelker | gotcha. Ok, I was wondering if you were suggesting that for the interop challenge we should tell folks to explicitly not configure admin creds. | 19:35 |
| markvoelker | We usually leave them in since the DefCore-required tests don't use them even if they're there and running the other tests (even ones that do require admin) gives us a better picture of what might not be working. | 19:36 |
| catherine_d|1 | I think for interop test ... it should really be run without admin creds | 19:37 |
| markvoelker | No problem--but if that's what we want folks to do, we should probably add that to the wiki. | 19:37 |
| catherine_d|1 | then we will hace consistent data for comparison | 19:38 |
| catherine_d|1 | for data with admin ... we will need to filter out the admin test cases for comparison | 19:40 |
| catherine_d|1 | markvoelker: good idea ... | 19:42 |
| catherine_d|1 | let's add that to the RefStack instruction | 19:43 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: should the interop-challeng tests be run with a single none-admin cred? | 19:47 |
| catherine_d|1 | hogepodge: I will update the instruction on the interop-challenge wiki after your confirmation ... | 19:49 |
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| hogepodge | catherineD: I don't think it matters | 23:35 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: if admin, we get a larger base of capabilities that we may want to include later as some sort of tiered system | 23:36 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: we can, plus or minus some delta, know which are non-admin and filter appropriately | 23:36 |
| hogepodge | catherineD: so, my advice is that we should collect as much data as possible, but not require it | 23:37 |
| hogepodge | So minimum is "all apis with non-admin, but feel free to run multi-tenant admin tests if you're so inclined" | 23:37 |
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