Wednesday, 2016-01-06

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/defcore: Fixed URL typo in setup.cfg  https://review.openstack.org/26393904:06
eglutethank you hogepodge and markvoelker for attending the TC meeting today. Looks like TC is still working on their resolution04:18
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bigjoolsI'm struggling to get the ssh tests to run, if I configure publickey it won't connect to any instances, and I can't work out how to configure user/pass because if I put anything other than publickey as the config option it doesn't run any tests at all.06:56
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openstackgerritMark T. Voelker proposed openstack/defcore: Add field to record cutoff score  https://review.openstack.org/22486813:45
openstackgerritMark T. Voelker proposed openstack/defcore: [RFC] Remove "may not flag all tests" clause  https://review.openstack.org/23482413:56
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zehicle_Agenda for meeting today https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DefCoreRing.715:42
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purpJust a note here to offer HPE facilities for the midcycle. Easiest for me to host in is Fort Collins, Palo Alto, or Sunnyvale; might be able to figure out Houston as well.16:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/defcore: Add field to record cutoff score  https://review.openstack.org/22486816:51
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eglutethanks purp!17:00
rockygo/17:00
eglutehi rockyg!17:00
rockygHey!  moving slow this morning.  As always.  But slower17:01
egluteheh, same here17:01
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egluterockyg is the issue urgent or can wait for mailing list/next week?17:01
rockygI just realized that 2015 is the latest guideline?  I keep thinking we have another....17:01
eglute2015.07 is the current one17:02
eglutewe are working on finalizing the 2016.01 to be approved at the next board meeting17:02
rockygThen the issue is not as urgent, as the version will still be valid even when 2016..01 is approved17:02
egluteoh good17:03
eglutealso markvoelker said it has come up before17:03
rockygThe patch that changed the API behavior was merged 6/19/1517:03
rockygHmmm.  That's interesting.  When did the 2015.07 guideline first get proposed?17:04
egluteawhile ago..17:05
eglutewe are now settling into twice a year cadence17:05
rockygYeah.  I'm thinking the tests changed underneath the guidelines.17:05
markvoelkerYeah, this actually came up at least a couple of times that I recall.  I'll dig up the conversation around that change and post it as soon as I can17:05
eglutethank you markvoelker17:05
markvoelkerHowever I have to run away from the keyboard for a bit so I can get the kids while my wife attends a funeral. =/17:06
rockygSo, we might need to figure out how/when to tag the tests to match our guidelines17:06
rockygmarkvoelker, no problem  And thanks for being on top of this.17:06
markvoelkersure thing17:06
rockygThis is definitely raising some interesting questions.17:06
rockygAs tests can easily change from proposed to final timeline17:07
eglutethanks markvoelker!17:07
rockygalso, a question....where do all the defcore guidelines and processes get published to?  I was looking, found one typo that hogepodge fixed for me, but haven't found the pretty print docs outside of the repository.17:08
eglutegithub17:08
eglutehttps://github.com/openstack/defcore17:09
eglutecurrent guideline: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/blob/master/2015.07.json17:09
egluteprocess: https://github.com/openstack/defcore/tree/master/doc/source/process17:09
rockygYeah.  We should get them either onto the docs.openstack.org or interop.openstack.org or somewhere else, similar to the docs and specs locations.  They should be in the openstack.org tree17:09
egluteok, need to check on that17:09
eglutehttp://www.openstack.org/brand/interop/17:10
eglutethats our interop page17:10
egluteit links to two most recent guidelines17:10
rockygThanks.  Might need a discussion onw *where* they should be, and where pointers should also be (branding?)17:11
rockygthe json is fine as a link to githup, but the docs need to appear as docs on our website.17:11
rockygIt's one thing to expect devs to find stuff in the repository, but quite another for vendors/product managers/marketing folks to have to dig through a repo.17:12
hogepodgefwiw, I'm happy to host a midcycle in Portland. I have the space available, and PDX is a nice city (imho)17:14
eglutethanks hogepodge!17:14
rockygOh, would love that!17:15
rockygwhen's the next board meeting?  after that, but hopefully after the ops/prodWG midcycle, too.17:16
rockygmore coffee!!!17:17
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egluterockyg need to check on the meeting times.17:17
eglutealso, we will look into defcore being part of docs in some way17:17
hogepodgeJanuary 2617:17
hogepodge1-3 PT Conference Call17:18
eglutethanks hogepodge!17:18
hogepodgehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation17:18
hogepodgenp17:18
rockygthanks.17:18
rockygeglute, zehicle and I are all running for the board :-)17:19
eglute:)17:19
egluteand markvoelker!17:19
rockygOh, yeah.  Forgot he's there, too!17:21
openstackgerritRob Hirschfeld proposed openstack/defcore: Use change to approved status to start general discussion  https://review.openstack.org/23983017:44
zehicle_hogepodge, RE https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233814/7.  are you OK w/ the consolidation of capabilities if the rule was omitted?18:11
zehicle_at this point the hacking entry is pretty meaningless anyway18:11
zehicle_but I think that it makes sense to consolidate the single test CRUD capabilities18:12
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hogepodgezehicle_: oh yeah, absolutely18:57
rockyg+118:58
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egluteany bad dates for the midcycle?19:13
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rockygNot the week of the 11th.  Preferrably not the week before, either.19:19
rockygsorry.  wrong month.  Not the week of the 15th.19:20
rockygweek before might be ok.19:20
eglutethanks rockyg, are you talking about February?19:32
markvoelkerrockyg: Added some links to previous discussions of the addtional properties issue to your etherpad.19:55
markvoelkerOne request though: it sounds from the etherpad like you were thinking a flag request is warranted for this.  Could I ask that you submit it through gerrit if that's the case?19:56
markvoelkerIt's just a little hard to carry on a discussion via etherpad. =)19:56
rosmaitamarkvoelker: got a minute?20:06
openstackgerritBrian Rosmaita proposed openstack/defcore: Remove advisory images-v2-import capability  https://review.openstack.org/26433920:27
markvoelkerrosmaita: Sorry, running around a lot today and just saw this....sure, what's up?20:42
rosmaitamarkvoelker: np, was going to ask whether the proper thing is to flag an advisory capability or simply remove it ... i just went ahead and removed it, figured you could correct me on the patch if i didn't do the right thing20:44
rosmaitapatch is https://review.openstack.org/26433920:44
markvoelkeroh, cool...will take a look20:45
rosmaitathanks!20:45
eglutemarkvoelker hogepodge any dates in february that would not work for you?21:26
eglutepurp any dates that would not work for you?21:28
hogepodgeeglute: many. I'm in Brazil for the first week, and likely in Boston from the 22-24 for qa. I could also be going to Manchester around the 15th and 16th. That's not nearly as firm, though.21:32
eglutehow about beginning of march?21:33
purpI'm on the road 18 Jan-4 Feb, and I'd be thrown out of my home if I miss the three birthdays 25 Feb, 26 Feb, and 4 Mar.21:38
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egluteOk, so I will try to propose dates to exclude those times as much as possible21:46
egluteif we pick HP locations, do we need to coordinate dates ahead of time?21:47
eglutemeaning, first pick location and then dates?21:48
eglutewould like just one poll sent out21:48
openstackgerritRob Hirschfeld proposed openstack/defcore: DefCore Capabilities should have more than one test.  https://review.openstack.org/23381423:06

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