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| lhx__ | patrickeast, I think the spec should be udpated :-) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408830/ | 03:48 |
| lhx__ | jbernard, will you propose a failback spec base on ^? | 03:54 |
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| lhx__ | geguileo, around? | 07:37 |
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| geguileo | lhx__: hi | 08:04 |
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| lhx__ | geguileo, I ran into a error when installing with enabled devstack-plugin-ceph | 08:07 |
| lhx__ | do you know if there is some something wrong? | 08:08 |
| lhx__ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/622282/ | 08:08 |
| geguileo | I haven't tried it in a while, but there shouldn't be anything wrong | 08:08 |
| geguileo | what went wrong? | 08:09 |
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| lhx__ | geguileo, there is not ceph.conf under /etc/ceph | 08:16 |
| geguileo | and stack didn't report any errors? what's the backend in cinder.conf? did that same local.conf work before? | 08:17 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, this error occurs while installing devstack | 08:21 |
| lhx__ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/622286/ | 08:21 |
| lhx__ | this is my local.conf | 08:22 |
| geguileo | lhx__: ok, so it's not strange that you don't have ceph conf files if devstack failed | 08:23 |
| geguileo | lhx__: what error did you get? | 08:23 |
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| lhx__ | geguileo, I checked the cinder.conf, but it's bit weird that it dd not set backend. http://paste.openstack.org/show/622287/ | 08:25 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, my devstack didn't finish installation with this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/622282/ | 08:26 |
| geguileo | lhx__: have you tried changing you enabling pluging with: enable_plugin ceph https://github.com/openstack/devstack-plugin-ceph | 08:27 |
| geguileo | lhx__: oh, forget it, apparently they have changed it | 08:28 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, yep :) | 08:28 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, I also used ceph | 08:28 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, hah, it's just a copy of your configurations | 08:29 |
| geguileo | it's strange that you overwrite CINDER_ENABLED_BACKENDS, but the conf looks right | 08:31 |
| openstackgerrit | huangjianbo proposed openstack/cinder master: Add support for striped volume in cinder.brick.local_dev.LVM https://review.openstack.org/508435 | 08:31 |
| geguileo | so I don't see why it should fail, you'll probably have to go through the logs from the stack to find out | 08:31 |
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| gk__ | Hi everyone, can a core member takes a look at this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461665/16? It has already a +2. Thank you in advance! | 08:39 |
| lhx__ | geguileo, thanks anyway, I will scan the track again | 08:42 |
| geguileo | lhx__: good luck | 08:42 |
| lhx__ | :-D | 08:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vivek Soni proposed openstack/cinder master: testing -- DO NOT MERGE https://review.openstack.org/508447 | 08:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Kaminario K2: Add non discovery iSCSI multipath https://review.openstack.org/508141 | 10:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Provisioning Improvements https://review.openstack.org/490116 | 11:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Run backup compression on native thread https://review.openstack.org/507510 | 11:44 |
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| lhx__ | e0ne, smcginnis , I saw the bp couldn't get started in newton. Should I move it to queens spec to undertake? | 12:02 |
| lhx__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270601/3 | 12:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder master: Add ploop to parallels naming conversion https://review.openstack.org/507193 | 12:06 |
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| e0ne | lhx__, smcginnis : I think we should to move the spec to Queens if it's not started yet | 12:25 |
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| lhx__ | e0ne, hah, if smcginnis also agree, I will go head :) | 12:28 |
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| jbernard | lhx__: i missed your first statement | 12:44 |
| jbernard | lhx__: based on which link? | 12:44 |
| smcginnis | lhx__: Yes, I believe that work still needs to be done. That would be great if you moved that to Queens and worked on it. | 12:46 |
| lhx__ | smcginnis, thanks for your confirm | 12:47 |
| lhx__ | jbernard, will contact with you later, this link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408830/ | 12:49 |
| jbernard | lhx__: yes | 12:50 |
| lhx__ | jbernard, I think you can push you thought in that spec before you propose yours. | 12:52 |
| jbernard | lhx__: sure | 12:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Young proposed openstack/cinder master: ScaleIO Driver - adding cache and refactoring tests. https://review.openstack.org/502473 | 13:05 |
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| tommylikehu | smcginnis: need a professor to teach me why this patch keep failing :https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506976/ | 14:13 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: It's just due to the zuul migration. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: We'll just have to wait a bit yet. | 14:14 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: ok, for which reason we add both jenkins and zuul? | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: They are still working through some zuulv3 upgrade issues. Hopefully we can just recheck later. | 14:14 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Yeah, not quite all the way there yet. | 14:15 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Is Zuul replacing Jenkins? | 14:17 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Well, technically it already did. We were running zuulv2, but now they are upgrading to v3 which is more bigger. New account and all, so we get the comments from zuul instead of jenkins. | 14:18 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. I know that Zuul was always behind it but I meant to ask if we are going to see 'zuul' voting now instead of 'jenkins' | 14:19 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, I believe so. | 14:20 |
| smcginnis | And some day it might actually vote something other than -1. :) | 14:20 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: You are talking craziness! | 14:21 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 14:21 |
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| e0ne | jungleboyj, smcginnis: do we really want CI on Fridays? :) | 14:26 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Nah! | 14:26 |
| e0ne | :) | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Paterson proposed openstack/cinder master: Volume backup not supported https://review.openstack.org/507235 | 14:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eric Young proposed openstack/cinder master: ScaleIO Driver - adding cache and refactoring tests. https://review.openstack.org/502473 | 15:01 |
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| geguileo | tommylikehu: hey, did you actually test this patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463906/ | 15:11 |
| geguileo | tommylikehu: ok, apparently it wasn't your fault... it was smcginnis | 15:13 |
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| tommylikehu | geguileo: oh, what's wrong? | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: I see your name on there, not mine. :) | 15:14 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: you broke our os-brick gate with this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505420/ | 15:14 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: that patch worked | 15:14 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: and then this one broke it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505420/ | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Really? WHere/ | 15:14 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: probably our Cinder tempest tests are not running in-tree tempest | 15:14 |
| smcginnis | OK, in meeting. Will be back soon. | 15:15 |
| geguileo | eharney: ^ can you confirm? | 15:15 |
| tommylikehu | geguileo: any error log link on hand? | 15:16 |
| geguileo | tommylikehu: I'll fix it, I know what's broken | 15:17 |
| tommylikehu | geguileo: cool, thanks | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder master: Fix Tempest Volume Revert test https://review.openstack.org/508541 | 15:22 |
| geguileo | tommylikehu: smcginnis ^ that's the issue | 15:22 |
| geguileo | and here's the tempest error: http://logs.openstack.org/53/507653/1/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-full-lio-src-os-brick-ubuntu-xenial/a582289/console.html#_2017-09-28_10_44_00_985200 | 15:23 |
| geguileo | but it's only affecting os-brick because we must not be running cinder in-tree tempests tests on Cinder gates | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Back. Looking at that patch now. | 15:24 |
| eharney | the lio job runs the in-tree tests, most jobs don't | 15:24 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: So min_microversion is something in BaseVolumeTest? | 15:25 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I believe it is, I kind of remember looking into it during the original review | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: How did that work before the constants change if that value wasn't set? | 15:26 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: because cinder is not running in-tree tempest tests | 15:27 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: so you can write whatever you want in those tests, it will always pass in Cinder | 15:27 |
| smcginnis | So that patch didn't break it. It was never set up right to check MVs. | 15:27 |
| geguileo | and when it merges it breaks OS-Brick | 15:27 |
| geguileo | gates that do run them | 15:27 |
| openstackgerrit | David Paterson proposed openstack/cinder master: Volume backup not supported https://review.openstack.org/507235 | 15:28 |
| tommylikehu | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/505420/4/cinder/tests/tempest/api/volume/test_volume_revert.py | 15:29 |
| smcginnis | tommylikehu: Oh weird. Oops. :] | 15:30 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: you can see that the os-brick gate was working on th 22nd when the last patch was merged, then that microversion patch got merged in Cinder and no more os-brick patches get +1 | 15:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Evgeny Antyshev proposed openstack/cinder master: Vzstorage: fix for create_cloned_volume https://review.openstack.org/508569 | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: You around? | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yep | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Hey, so looking at a spec that will also require a change in Horizon. How have we handled that in the past? | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Which one is that? | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319831/ | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Well, the Cinder work doesn't | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | There would need to be a new check box added in the 'Transfer' dialog. | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | "require" a change in horizon, but they would need to make an update to take advantage of that. | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok, so we don't worry about that? | 16:52 |
| smcginnis | So nothing that should hold us up, but would be a good courtesy to let robcresswell or someone there know. | 16:53 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok. I just had that thought because I was playing with that the other day. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Wish we had a process for making sure those things happen. | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Would require a little coordination with horizon, but we could try to have something started in Horizon before approving in Cinder. But that could get messy. | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | I just approved it and added a note about Horizon. I will try to remember to follow up on that. | 16:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder-specs master: Add shared_targets column to volume table https://review.openstack.org/507670 | 17:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder-specs master: Transfer snapshots with volumes https://review.openstack.org/319831 | 17:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | David Paterson proposed openstack/cinder master: Dell EMC SC and PS volume backup not supported https://review.openstack.org/507235 | 18:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cinder-specs master: Add shared_targets column to volume table https://review.openstack.org/507670 | 18:28 |
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| Swanson | Johnny capitalization. | 18:34 |
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| abishop | kfarr: hey, was hoping to ask a couple questions about https://review.openstack.org/468252 | 19:36 |
| abishop | kfarr: specifically, what's the thinking on how users will migrate from the old conf key manager to barbican? | 19:37 |
| Swanson | Looking forward to Dell's new office design. https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/our-open-plan-office-failed-so-were-moving-to-a-towering-panopticon | 19:45 |
| smcginnis | There will be a Jamba Juice. | 19:47 |
| Swanson | This sounds terrifying and dystopian. Is it? No. | 19:48 |
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| kfarr | abishop to clarify, that patch isn't actually removing conf key manager, though I did reference wanting to remove it | 20:10 |
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| abishop | kfarr: yeah, eharney and I paniced for a moment when we thought all the code had been removed! | 20:11 |
| kfarr | abishop in the future, if we do remove conf key manager, a user would have to copy their key from the config file, store in it barbican (presumably that's the preferred key manager) | 20:11 |
| kfarr | and update the encryption_key_id field on the volume to the barbican uuid | 20:12 |
| abishop | kfarr: totally get the desire to move away from legacy mgr and onward to barbican | 20:12 |
| abishop | yeah, that's what I'm looking at, but the devil is in the details | 20:12 |
| abishop | the concern is we need to provide a "gentle" migration path, and minimize glitches and downtime | 20:12 |
| abishop | I've been incubating an idea I want to run by you... | 20:13 |
| patrickeast | anyone seen 404 errors with the volume revert tempest tests? like so http://openstack-logs.purestorage.com/PureISCSIDriver-tempest-dsvm-xenial-aio-multipath-chap/3122/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 20:13 |
| abishop | I was playing with having cinder's keymgr.API() (which the patch removes) provide a thin wrapper that would provide legacy support when it is asked to get or delete a key with all-zeros id | 20:14 |
| abishop | kfarr: those requests would be diverted from the barbican backend, and redirected to the legacy conf.key_manager | 20:14 |
| abishop | kfarr: the intent is to make this transparent to the upper layers | 20:15 |
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| abishop | kfarr: this would allow "things to work" with barbican as the key manager in situatinos where user is upgrading to barbican, and still has all-zeros key IDs in various dbases | 20:16 |
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| kfarr | abishop technically that change would have to go into nova, since the key isn't retrieved until nova tries to attach the volume | 20:17 |
| abishop | kfarr: thoughts? | 20:17 |
| abishop | well, cinder and nova | 20:17 |
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| abishop | kfarr: which has me wondering if castellan (as the common entrypoint) could help with the migration problem | 20:18 |
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| kfarr | abiship Ok, so I am a user who created a bunch of encrypted volumes using the conf key manager, but now I see the light and I want to use barbican (or I am forced to install barbican because conf key manager is going away) | 20:21 |
| abishop | kfarr: http://paste.openstack.org/show/622347/ is a hack to cinder's old keymgr that gives you idea | 20:21 |
| kfarr | and I want this to have the least amount of hassle possible | 20:21 |
| kfarr | and it's too much of a hassle to update the encryption_key_id in the database? | 20:22 |
| abishop | kfarr: exactly! in spite of warnings about old key manager, there are users (enterprise) who have deployments with many volumes encrypted that way | 20:23 |
| abishop | updating the dbase is conceptually easy, but may be tricky in practice | 20:23 |
| abishop | for example, the encryption_key_id can be stored in various metadata tables, so knowing where to hunt down all the instances might be difficult | 20:24 |
| abishop | the update process might also take a non-trivial amount of time, so how do we ensure uptime until all instaces are migrated? | 20:25 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, That make sense? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507235/6 | 20:25 |
| kfarr | abishop as a user, am I going to want to move away from conf key manager eventually? am I going to have a bunch of old volumes laying around that are using that conf key even though my new ones use barbican? | 20:26 |
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| abishop | I expect the user will _want_ to move away as quickly as possible, but that also needs to go as smoothly as possible | 20:27 |
| kfarr | abishop I want to say maybe it would be better to provide some sort of a script that will do that for them? but then I also don't know the scope of how many places the encryption_key_id is replicated throughout the database | 20:28 |
| abishop | kfarr: primary concern is reducing risk during migration period | 20:28 |
| kfarr | abishop I'm not sure what the openstack-y way to do this is | 20:28 |
| kfarr | abishop yeah I gotcha | 20:28 |
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| abishop | kfarr: the process I'm shooting for will be the compromise that allows us to fully deprecate the old without abandoning users who get caught in the middle | 20:29 |
| kfarr | abishop right right | 20:31 |
| abishop | kfarr: right now, AFAIK both cinder and nova maintain an _identical_ implementation for the .get() function that uses the fixed key | 20:31 |
| kfarr | abishop yes but I don't think get() is ever called in cinder, get() is called in nova | 20:31 |
| abishop | proposal I'm now incubating is maybe castellan could help during the period when migration is desireable, but potentially risky | 20:31 |
| abishop | Oh, get() is called in cinder ;-) | 20:32 |
| abishop | in fact, _any_ code that calls get() would benefit from a common solution | 20:32 |
| abishop | (common, meaning castellan) | 20:32 |
| kfarr | abishop if we merged code into castellan to help with this, would that transition code eventually get removed? | 20:32 |
| abishop | yes, I think that's completely reasonable | 20:33 |
| abishop | we just need to help customers get all the way across the (migration) desert | 20:33 |
| kfarr | abishop I like the idea of making it easy for the user, though the main question on my mind is once the barbican driver in castellan has the workaround to get the key from conf if the uuid is 000s, then is that volume stuck using conf key manager? Would the user have to clone the volume so that it starts using barbican? | 20:35 |
| kfarr | abishop also, I just remembered, there is one get() call in castellan, it's when cloning a volume | 20:36 |
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| abishop | kfarr: yeah, and cinder does this to clone in a couple places | 20:36 |
| kfarr | when cloning a volume, the key data is retrieved and stored again as a new key, and the new uuid is associated with the volume clone | 20:36 |
| abishop | yep | 20:36 |
| abishop | this is done for backups, too | 20:37 |
| abishop | kfarr: cinder can add code to look for existing all-zero key IDs, and migrate it into barbican (updating its dbase to barbican ID) | 20:38 |
| abishop | so the goal is to eventually hunt down and purge (migrate) all all-zero ids. | 20:39 |
| kfarr | ohhhhh this is so messy | 20:39 |
| abishop | yeah, which is why eharney put his thumb on your review so we could have this discussion before anything merged | 20:40 |
| abishop | (yeah, we know the nova piece already has) | 20:40 |
| abishop | kfarr: obviously we won't solve this today, but wanted to raise the point so we can have further discussions | 20:40 |
| kfarr | abishop, which way do you think is better: 1. adding the code to cinder/nova to automatically migrate the key or 2. adding the workaround code into castellan and the key stays in the conf file indefinitely | 20:41 |
| kfarr | abishop is it better to just never remove conf key manager? | 20:41 |
| abishop | kfarr: well, how about a little of both? have cinder/nova start migrating their key, but have workaround in castellan there to provide the saftey net during migration | 20:42 |
| abishop | eventually deprecate castellan workaround code once we can be sure users feel safe knowing things are fully migrated | 20:42 |
| kfarr | abishop ok thanks for the discussion | 20:43 |
| abishop | kfarr: in fact, final user goal would be to remove fixed_key from cinder and nova conf files (that's the security risk we're trying to eliminate) | 20:43 |
| abishop | kfarr: but user won't want to do that until they know it's safe, and castellan workaround might be key (no pun) to ensuring that safety | 20:44 |
| abishop | I'll let you mull this, and we can pick it up again | 20:44 |
| kfarr | abishop ok sounds good to me | 20:44 |
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| abishop | thanks for your time and consideration! | 20:45 |
| kfarr | abishop would be nice to not have to revert that nova patch that removed the deprecated options | 20:45 |
| kfarr | abishop you too! | 20:45 |
| abishop | kfarr: final thought: castellan workaround might allow nova patch to stand as-is! | 20:46 |
| kfarr | abishop yup :) | 20:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | John Griffith proposed openstack/cinder master: Switch from ostestr to stestr https://review.openstack.org/508624 | 21:44 |
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| jgriffith | Hmmm... /me wonders if zuul 3 might somehow adjust timing of things such that we deal with a bunch of intermittent failures? | 21:50 |
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| jgriffith | I wouldn't think that would be the case, but seems odd | 21:50 |
| jgriffith | "seems odd" == the amount of red I'm seeing now | 21:51 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: I'm thinking they aren't so intermittent. | 21:51 |
| jgriffith | yeah, actually now that you mention it | 21:52 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: The jobs and zuul are all a mess right now. | 21:52 |
| jgriffith | I'd poke into infra and offer to help out, but I doubt I'd be much of an asset | 21:53 |
| jgriffith | would take them longer to bring me up to speed on things than to work on it | 21:53 |
| smcginnis | Same here. Been bugging them every once and awhile, but mostly trying to not interupt them. | 21:54 |
| smcginnis | There's a chance we may need to update some of the cinder jobs, but I'm hoping they just get everything sorted out. | 21:54 |
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| jgriffith | Well shit, this backend_id thing is like whack-o-mole with all the little *gotchas* | 23:29 |
| jgriffith | Service initialization (I forgot) is a bit of a monster | 23:29 |
| jgriffith | hoped to have this done today but looks like it's going to take another morning of trickery I'm afraid | 23:29 |
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