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openstackgerritWenPing Zhang proposed openstack/cinder: New cinder driver to support Daowoo YeeSan  https://review.openstack.org/20244001:48
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openstackgerritZohar Mamedov proposed openstack/cinder: Nexenta Edge iSCSI backend driver  https://review.openstack.org/15874506:45
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openstackgerritVipin Balachandran proposed openstack/cinder: VMware: Enforce min vCenter version  https://review.openstack.org/23576606:57
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nikeshmhi07:33
nikeshmis there any deadline on new cinder backup driver like cinder volume driver?07:35
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DuncanTnikeshm: There isn't a hard deadline, but I recommend you do it in milestone 1 or 2 - there will be a lot of resistance to merging one during M-307:51
DuncanTnikeshm: Early is always better07:51
DuncanTnikeshm: What driver are you considering?07:51
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openstackgerritCedric Zhuang proposed openstack/cinder: Add retype logic in manage_existing for VNX  https://review.openstack.org/20917608:06
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dulekDuncanT: I've added content of my previous notes on AZs into Design Summit etherpad for this session (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-az).11:00
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openstackgerritAlon Marx proposed openstack/cinder: Updates in consistency_group in xiv/ds8k driver  https://review.openstack.org/23328011:34
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openstackgerritTom Fifield proposed openstack/cinder: Comment fix on summary method in scheduler-stats  https://review.openstack.org/23571311:49
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openstackgerritZohar Mamedov proposed openstack/cinder: Nexenta Edge iSCSI backend driver  https://review.openstack.org/15874512:12
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23694112:18
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avishayHey, anyone here up to date on consistency groups in liberty?12:37
avishayI'm trying to figure out what I can do with a cgsnapshot once it's created12:37
openstackgerritSzymon Wr√≥blewski proposed openstack/cinder: CGSnapshot Object  https://review.openstack.org/19502712:38
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dulekavishay: You can create a consistency group from it.12:41
avishaydulek: what does that mean? a new set of volumes that are in a CG?12:42
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dulekavishay: I believe so. A new set of volumes from snapshots from cgsnapshot.12:44
avishaydulek: OK thanks! Documentation wasn't clear. Will look at the code.12:44
dulekavishay: You should look for create_consistencygroup_from_src - or similar methods.12:45
avishaydulek: cool thanks for the pointer12:45
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Resource cleanup to support HA A/A  https://review.openstack.org/23697713:28
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dulekgeguileo: I saw that, reviewing now! :)13:29
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openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Support HA Active/Active configurations  https://review.openstack.org/23259913:37
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openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Added CORS support to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/21948913:44
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geguileodulek: Sorry, I had the wrong nick  %-D14:12
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dulekgeguileo: Casual nick Friday? I've answered you in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-hash-ring14:13
dulekgeguileo: I also don't see benefits for Cinder in going that way, so probably this direction should be abandoned.14:14
geguileodulek: It was more like mistakes when using phone and personal laptop for work related IRC stuff  XD14:14
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dulekgeguileo: I believe DuncanT had one more idea related to A/A, I'm not sure if he hadn't dropped an Etherpad describing it when I wasn't looking.14:15
geguileodulek: I realized the local locks benefit, but didn't know if there was something else14:16
geguileodulek: Because I see a problem with workload distribution14:16
geguileodulek: Since it is based on the resources and not the costs of undergoing operations14:17
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dulekgeguileo: Operations aren't distributed evenly if some volumes are more active.14:18
geguileodulek: It would also prevent us from doing things like we are doing now, for example attaching a volume that is 'handled' by another node in the cluster14:18
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geguileodulek: Needed for migrations14:19
geguileodulek: Yes, that's what I meant14:19
openstackgerritMichael Krotscheck proposed openstack/cinder: Added CORS support to Cinder  https://review.openstack.org/21948914:19
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dulekgeguileo: But in a high number of volumes that would eventually distribute by itself - you don't need to scale until the number is high.14:19
geguileodulek: To me it makes more sense that the workers can control how much work they take14:20
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dulekgeguileo: The migrations argument is stronger I think.14:20
geguileodulek: You may end with nodes that are iddle (depending on the hash distribution and usage)14:20
geguileodulek: By the way, I'm not against it14:21
dulekgeguileo: You may, round robin is probably more fair.14:21
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geguileodulek: I'm just pointing out things that come up to my mind14:21
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hemnamep14:22
dulekgeguileo: Fun fact is that considering lack of benefits and problems in implementation I think I'm against using hash ring. ;)14:22
geguileodulek: If Cinder only had the control path the Hash Rings would sound better to me14:22
dulekgeguileo: I just cannot justify how it fits into the picture.14:22
smcginnishemna: Kind of early for you, isn't it?14:22
hemnayah14:22
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Add qos_specs_id to volume type show  https://review.openstack.org/23441414:22
hemnanormally, I'm driving in to the office now.14:23
hemnasmcginnis, my son is sick, so I'm staying home with him today14:23
smcginnishemna: :(14:23
geguileodulek: I'll give another thought, since there may be some approach to it that I'm missing14:23
hemnayah no bueno14:24
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Attach/detach volumes without Nova (draft)  https://review.openstack.org/22412414:34
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openstackgerritYuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Add the version attribute to the Client class  https://review.openstack.org/23703415:16
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openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (managed)  https://review.openstack.org/23120115:20
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: 3PAR: Implement v2 replication (unmanaged)  https://review.openstack.org/23124515:23
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duleksmcginnis: Hi, can you correct my surname in https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/4fc11c83cede6cbeb6f7620f73126b42 ?15:42
duleksmcginnis: I'm Michal Dulko. :)15:42
* dulek starts to think about change of the nick. ;)15:43
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e0nedulek: as an option, you could change your last name:)15:47
smcginnisdulek: Oops, sorry about that. I knew that, but I guess my fingers didn't. ;)15:48
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smcginnisdulek: Updated now.15:48
smcginnise0ne: Good suggestion. :D15:48
e0nesmcginnis, DuncanT, hemnafk: fyi, I've added my spec (attach w/o nova) to the ironic meeting agenda. may be, we've got some feedback before summit15:50
e0nehttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting15:50
smcginnise0ne: Great! That will be good to have more input.15:51
e0nesmcginnis: agree15:51
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: Remove db access from 3PAR and LH cg functions  https://review.openstack.org/23608915:52
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: Remove db access from 3PAR and LH cg functions  https://review.openstack.org/23608915:52
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SwansonIs replication v2 merged in?16:14
openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: Enable sparse image conversion  https://review.openstack.org/22699016:14
SwansonAnd if anyone with a +2 stick wants to take a look at this it would really clean up our CI logs...  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234294/16:15
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hemnaSwanson, it landed in L16:23
Swansonhemna, That's what I thought.  V1 was axed, right?16:24
hemnaSwanson, there are remnants of v1 around still16:24
hemnaI think we are working on cleaning those out16:25
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: LIO: Let delete_initiator succeed if iqn not found  https://review.openstack.org/23540116:25
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/23707516:29
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smcginnisAnyone else see CI failures starting Sunday? Went from 288 tests total to 277 total and starting failing lots on ours.16:30
openstackgerritGorka Eguileor proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Auto-fencing to support HA A/A  https://review.openstack.org/23707616:31
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e0nesmcginnis: could you please share a link to cinder/ironic session?17:04
openstackgerritDmitry Guryanov proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Volume Format classes in RemoteFS volume drivers  https://review.openstack.org/23709417:10
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harlowjazigo_ orderedgraphs17:12
harlowjathats the 1.10 feature in networkx thats really helpful17:13
harlowjabefore 1.10 there is really no way to ensure the add() order == the iteration order17:13
harlowjahttps://github.com/networkx/networkx/pull/1314 i think was the merge17:13
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patrickeastsmcginnis: i haven't seen any issues with my CI (other than the FC read-only stuff... but thats nothing new)17:16
patrickeastsmcginnis: what errors are you getting?17:16
patrickeastoh, looks like n-cpu blew up http://oslogs.compellent.com/dell-sc-iscsi-231201-23/logs/screen-n-cpu.log.txt.gz17:17
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smcginnise0ne: Which is that?17:42
smcginnispatrickeast: Yeah, strange I am getting it on all three of ours.17:42
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smcginnispatrickeast: I've stopped our CI for now. Performing some manual testing and troubleshooting now.17:43
e0nesmcginnis: "Attaching a volume without Nova (might be good for fishbowl, or a working session)" from the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mitaka-summit-topics17:43
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e0nesmcginnis: we need to coordinate this with ironic team and add to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/summit-mitaka-ironic17:44
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smcginnise0ne: Ah, OK. That's under the sprints section.17:45
smcginnisThose are just topics we will work through on Friday.17:45
smcginnisNot a specific time slot.17:45
e0nesmcginnis: can we schedule it to sime time slot?17:45
* smcginnis is looking through the schedule...17:46
e0neI'm just returned from the ironic meeting. they would like to attend it17:46
smcginnise0ne: Really the only one I see that we might be able to double up on is maybe the DLM session at 5:20 on Thursday?17:46
smcginnise0ne: What do you think? http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/type/Cinder17:47
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e0nesmcginnis: I'll ask it to ironic team17:48
smcginnise0ne: Cool, thanks.17:48
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duleke0ne: Hi, I'm not sure if Yuriy is around but got a question on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/222292/17:56
e0nedulek: he is not here right now17:57
e0nedulek: what question do you have?17:58
duleke0ne: I've commented on the commit message not matching the whole scope of the patch and that was ignored. I'm not sure if that comment was valid?17:58
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e0nedulek: feel free to -1 on it and ask to answer/address the comments17:58
duleke0ne: In such situations I'm always starting to think if I'm not missing something.17:58
e0nedulek: from my POV, your commants are valid17:59
duleke0ne: Thanks for your opinion! :)17:59
e0nedulek: thanks for the review18:00
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e0nesmcginnis: jroll>e0ne: so 2:40 and 3:30 are the only non-conflicts, are those doable? alternatively, ironic has no session friday afternoon, so we could come hang out18:04
e0nesmcginnis: we're discussing it in #openstack-ironic18:04
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e0nedulek: btw, will you be at Summit this time?18:08
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e0ne[21:09:51]  <jroll>e0ne: I think for volume attachment stuff, what y'all are doing is probably perfect (I have yet to review the spec though)18:11
e0ne[21:10:05]  <jroll>e0ne: for boot-from-volume, I know people are working on stuff but I haven't really looked at it18:11
e0nehemna: ^^18:11
hemnamep18:11
duleke0ne: Yup, my team had luck to get the funding. :)18:11
e0nedulek: great!18:11
hemnae0ne, ok.  the boot from volume stuff is going to require h/w vendor support.  I had a long wiki that I created ages ago about that FYI18:11
duleke0ne: :)18:12
e0nehemna: TBH, I dodn't take a look on it since June18:12
jgriffithhemna: link?18:12
dulekHey, and by the way - there was a terrible netsplit on Wednesday. So in the end - when do we have Cinder beer in Tokyo?18:12
smcginnisdulek: Daily18:14
smcginnis:)18:14
smcginnisdulek: I don't think we finalized a time.18:14
e0ne:)18:14
hemnajgriffith, let me find it...it's been a while18:14
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smcginnisMonday, Wednesday, or Thursday looked like options.18:14
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hemnajgriffith, e0ne https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/blueprints/cinder-integration18:15
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e0nehemna: this one https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic/blueprints/cinder-integration?18:15
e0ne:)18:15
hemnaheh18:15
hemnayah, wrote that a bit ago...2013 :P18:15
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duleksmcginnis: So that's open case. Thanks. :)18:16
jgriffithhemna: e0ne I think we need to talk about some of this at the summit18:16
jgriffithhemna: e0ne boot from san in a non-openstack env is a bit interesting18:17
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hemnasure, I'm all for it.18:17
e0ne+218:17
hemnaway back when, we got stuck on the vendor remote BIOS API issues18:17
jgriffithhemna: e0ne This all seems to be more of an Ironic specific context as opposed to a general "stand-alone Cinder"18:18
hemnare: not being able to programatically tell the bios to boot from SAN as well as set/fetch boot from san items.18:18
hemnadidn't really have much to do w/ cinder actually.18:18
jgriffithhemna: yeah.. but also there's a bunch of assumptions in there18:18
e0nehemna: i believe, such stuff like LIO, IPMI, etc became better after 2 years18:18
jgriffithe0ne: :)18:18
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jgriffithe0ne: it's better, but certainly has challenges still depending on platform18:19
jgriffithanyway... should be a great topic18:19
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e0nejgriffith: you're right:)18:19
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Add new Connector APIs for path validation  https://review.openstack.org/19976418:19
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e0nejgriffith, hemna: our ironic guys work on booting from iscsi. I'll ask them about progress tomorrow18:21
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hemnae0ne, coolio.  we have an interest in helping make all of that work18:25
e0nehemna: great!18:25
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openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool that allows querying of LUNs  https://review.openstack.org/20419118:26
e0nehemna: did I ask you why brick doesn't do umount for nfs?18:27
openstackgerritYuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Implement snapshots-related features for Block Device Driver  https://review.openstack.org/22229218:27
openstackgerritAlex O'Rourke proposed openstack/cinder: Remove db access from 3PAR and LH cg functions  https://review.openstack.org/23608918:27
hemnaheh18:28
hemnae0ne, you didn't ask18:28
hemnabut there is history there18:28
hemnafolks say you can't do unmount from what I remember18:28
e0ne:(18:28
e0neconnect/disconnect api is not consistent now18:29
hemnasmcginnis, did we ever get ahold of the Mellanox CI folks?18:29
e0neso any os-brick user should do some stuff for different procotolc18:29
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e0nehemna: we've got a very limited time to change brick before nova starts use it more18:31
e0nehemna: I'll create my wishlist before a summit18:31
hemnaok18:32
hemnae0ne, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/23206218:33
hemnaso that one looks good18:33
hemnabut the Mellanox CI is puking18:33
hemnaon what looks unrelated18:33
e0nelooking on it18:33
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hemnae0ne, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_Cinder_CI18:34
hemnatheir status says it I guess there.18:34
hemnaCurrent Status: production, voting. CI IS TEMPORALLY DOWN18:35
e0ne2015-10-08 03:40:11.857 | + sudo xargs -n1 tgt-admin --delete18:35
e0ne2015-10-08 03:40:11.870 | tgtadm: failed to send request hdr to tgt daemon, Transport endpoint is not connected18:35
e0ne2015-10-08 03:40:11.921 | Option delete requires an argument18:35
hemnayah borked18:35
openstackgerritWalter A. Boring IV (hemna) proposed openstack/os-brick: Check RBDConnector.disconnect_volume device_info argument  https://review.openstack.org/23206218:36
hemnasimple rebase18:36
hemnafires off new CI, so we'll wait18:36
e0nethanks18:36
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/23707518:40
patrickeastjgriffith: hey, lemmie know if you have a min to talk about the trim stuff18:41
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smcginnishemna: Yeah, I haven't seen a thing from Mellanox. :\18:44
hemna:(18:44
hemnaok, so I guess we just ignore the failed CI on os-brick?18:44
hemnaI rebased that patch to kickoff new tests18:44
hemnaso, we'll see.18:44
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smcginnisYeah, doesn't look like they are worth looking at at this point.18:47
jgriffithpatrickeast: for sure18:47
jgriffithpatrickeast: I mean... yes I have a minute :)18:48
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pv_with tox how do i run a single test?18:52
pv_when i try "tox -epy27 -- -n cinder.tests.unit.test_volume:AvailabilityZoneTestCase.test_list_availability_zones_cached" which is whats given on the unit test developer reference18:52
pv_it throws an import error18:52
pv_and i tried the same thing but for my driver and it threw an import error18:52
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pv_ImportError: No module named test_volume:AvailabilityZoneTestCase is what i got when I ran the command off of the http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/devref/unit_tests.html page18:53
pv_any help?18:53
hemnapv_, s/:/.18:53
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eharneypv_: change the : to .18:53
hemnatox -epy27 -- -n cinder.tests.unit.test_volume.AvailabilityZoneTestCase.test_list_availability_zones_cached18:53
pv_ahhhh alright haha18:54
pv_thanks18:54
pv_sorry about that18:54
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smcginnispv_: You're not the only one to get confused my the syntax. :)18:56
patrickeastjgriffith: gah sry, got pulled into a call, still got time?18:56
jgriffithsure18:57
patrickeastjgriffith: ok cool... so, i saw your comment and figured it might be easier to explain here than back and forth on the spec review18:58
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jgriffithpv_: probably :)18:59
patrickeastone thing i wanted to make sure was clear is that the image meta is only to get nova to create the instance with the correct type of disk bus/interface18:59
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Add qos_specs_id to volume type show  https://review.openstack.org/23441418:59
patrickeastso like whether or not the cinder volume gets discard isn't decided by it18:59
jgriffithpatrickeast: ok... that makes sense18:59
jgriffithpatrickeast: but why bother is my question I guess?18:59
patrickeastbut whether or not the vm is *actually* doing Trim commands is up to that18:59
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patrickeastjgriffith: not sure i follow19:00
patrickeastjgriffith: why bother setting the properties?19:00
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jgriffithpatrickeast: No, I mean dealing with the image at all?19:00
jgriffithpatrickeast: In my case I just use the cinder properties and nothing more19:00
jgriffithpatrickeast: I'm not following the need to do anything with the image?19:00
jgriffithbut I may be missing some thing19:01
patrickeastjgriffith: heh yea this is kind of a whole weird loop19:01
patrickeastso19:01
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patrickeastwhen we first approached this we would only check the cinder property19:01
patrickeastsimilar to what we do now19:01
patrickeastbut the difference being that if discard was requested by cinder we would hot-plug the right scsi controller to the instance19:02
patrickeastsince the default virtio-blk one does not support it19:02
jgriffithpatrickeast: righ19:02
jgriffithright19:02
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patrickeastthere was pushback that the instance may not actually be able to support virtio-scsi though19:02
patrickeastso the hotplug might fail19:02
patrickeastlike if the vm image doesn't have the right drivers19:02
patrickeastsooo here comes the image data19:03
jgriffithoh brother19:03
openstackgerritAngela Smith proposed openstack/cinder: Adds VF support with HTTPS southbound connector  https://review.openstack.org/18479919:03
patrickeastif the image was configured with support for a bus that can support it, nova will create the right stuff at boot itme19:03
patrickeasttime*19:03
patrickeastand then our cinder volume works ok and we get trim19:03
patrickeastif it wasn't, we still attach and say 'discard=unmap'19:03
jgriffithpatrickeast: ok... I get it.  Wonder if we could make things harder for users/deployers19:03
patrickeastbuuut no Trim19:03
patrickeasthaha yea seriously19:04
patrickeastjgriffith: i was considering maybe adding a setting that was like 'force_virtio_scsi=True' or something that would just do the hot-plug anyway19:05
patrickeastjgriffith: even if the image wasn't configured with the setting19:05
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah, I'm not a fan of doing image crap19:05
patrickeastsame :/19:05
jgriffithpatrickeast: I like the conf option FWIW19:05
patrickeastbut i am i fan of getting a way for Trim to work19:06
jgriffithpatrickeast: but I also know better than to ever challenge anything from that team19:06
patrickeasteven if it kind of sucks a little bit19:06
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah, at the end of the day that's all I care about right now19:06
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/23707519:11
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/23707519:14
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openstackgerritEric Harney proposed openstack/cinder: devref doc: assorted fixes in "Unit Tests"  https://review.openstack.org/23717419:46
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jgriffitheharney: is there any value in specifying that tox is "preferred" method of running tests?20:05
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jgriffitheharney: WRT your patch 23717420:05
jgriffitheharney: personally I'd like to encourage people to not use run_tests any more and eventually just make it go away20:06
eharneyjgriffith: i think the doc already states that20:06
jgriffitheharney: ahh.. indeed it does :)20:06
jgriffithnever mind :)20:06
eharneyso, good progress :)20:06
jgriffithhehe20:06
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openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/python-cinderclient: Adding backup-reset-state to CLI  https://review.openstack.org/23718820:19
hemnapatrickeast, how can I do a recheck on the pure ci for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199764/ ?20:20
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patrickeasthemna: i can, but its like 50/50 whether it would matter, it hit the permission thing http://openstack-logs.purestorage.com/64/199764/16/check/PureFCDriver-tempest-dsvm-volume-multipath-brick/a9bd4a5/logs/screen-c-vol.txt.gz?level=TRACE#_2015-10-19_18_55_25_58120:21
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patrickeasthemna: well, i suppose anyone *can* its just 'recheck Pure Storage CI'20:21
patrickeasthemna: imo its ok to ignore that failure20:21
hemnaok20:22
hemnagah ok, the perms issue20:22
hemnaI didn't dig into it20:22
* hemna has a sad20:22
openstackgerritNate Potter proposed openstack/cinder: Return volume_type extra specs based on policy  https://review.openstack.org/23707520:23
patrickeasthemna: haha, just turn that sad into a +2 over at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235067/20:23
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hemnaI'd like to try and reproduce it20:24
hemnabut I can't20:24
patrickeast:( yea, unfortunately there are a lot of variables20:25
openstackgerritYuriy Nesenenko proposed openstack/cinder: Implement snapshots-related features for Block Device Driver  https://review.openstack.org/22229220:26
patrickeastcould be the switch, fczm, my hba's, the hypervisor drivers/kernel, maybe even just a difference in how the FC stuff behaves between what Pure and Netapp do vs HP arrays20:26
hemnaso I'm still trying to figure out how to selectively enable both HBAs for 1 test, and not for others20:27
hemna:(20:27
hemnableh20:27
patrickeasteasiest way is to probably create a copy of the jjb config for the test and override the FC_NUM (or whatever the param is for the passthrough script)20:28
patrickeastand have that test configured to only use labels that are setup in nodepool to be built in the restricted set of hardware20:28
patrickeastthat can have 2 hbas20:28
hemnawords and stuff20:30
patrickeasthaha20:30
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openstackgerritIvan Kolodyazhny proposed openstack/cinder-specs: Attach/detach volumes without Nova (draft)  https://review.openstack.org/22412421:14
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openstackgerritAngela Smith proposed openstack/cinder: Adds VF support with HTTPS southbound connector  https://review.openstack.org/18479921:21
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openstackgerritAnthony Lee proposed openstack/os-brick: Adding a tool for querying volume paths  https://review.openstack.org/20419121:47
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/cinder: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23694123:26
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/os-brick: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/23730223:31
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