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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Create signature of measures_report in base class https://review.openstack.org/229124 | 09:06 |
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| cdent | thanks for that jd__ | 09:09 |
| jd__ | np :) | 09:10 |
| cdent | but can you explain why if the implementation in the subclass is not static and presumably never would be the super is? | 09:10 |
| jd__ | the static/class methods are tight to the current class | 09:10 |
| jd__ | there no link to the general class inheritance hierarchy in Python | 09:11 |
| cdent | Yeah, I get that, I just mean in terms of the base being representative of the interface (as a human aid) | 09:11 |
| jd__ | the human aid is the parameters and the return value (documented in the doc string), static or not static is not representative | 09:12 |
| jd__ | you could have a static implementatino of the method in the driver | 09:12 |
| jd__ | even if the base class is not declared static like you did | 09:12 |
| cdent | cool, thanks | 09:12 |
| jd__ | I know it's really weird, but it's how Python works | 09:12 |
| jd__ | the decorators are just used to indicate if the method should be bound to an instance or not internally | 09:13 |
| jd__ | so it's really class-local | 09:13 |
| cdent | I think once the influxdb stuff is back to almost working, the experimental influxdb is going to break because of measures_report needing to be implemented | 09:13 |
| cdent | but that's some distance away as the other tests are still messed up | 09:14 |
| jd__ | you can implement it as "pass" I guess | 09:14 |
| jd__ | yeah no progress on the other tests? | 09:14 |
| cdent | I think the issue is in get_measures | 09:15 |
| cdent | but I haven't decoded it enough yet to be certain | 09:15 |
| cdent | however apart from that if I run the tests enough times I can tickle the timeout bug | 09:16 |
| cdent | so "experimental" seems wise | 09:16 |
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| ityaptin | jd__, cdent: Hi! | 10:59 |
| cdent | hi ityaptin, how goes? | 11:00 |
| ityaptin | I also tinker with influxdb timeout and timeouts this week. | 11:01 |
| cdent | any progress so far? | 11:02 |
| jd__ | cool | 11:02 |
| cdent | brb | 11:02 |
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| ityaptin | I making two things - 1. implement continuous queries for aggregation measures according to AP and getting aggregated data via get_measures 2. writing raw_data to "raw_data" measurement with tags like (metric_id, metric_name, resource_id, resource_type) if it exists | 11:05 |
| ityaptin | I don't sure what it fixes issue with writing to influxdb but in tests I didn't see timeouts yesterday | 11:06 |
| ityaptin | cdent: Today-tommorow I want to send POC to review (I need to check correctness of output data). could you also try it on your env? | 11:08 |
| ityaptin | jd__, cdent: does wal option for 0.9.3 also leave much to be desired for fast writing? | 11:09 |
| ityaptin | jd__: I see what you patched tox configuration of influxdb with this option. | 11:10 |
| jd__ | ityaptin: did I? I copied something I guess from cdent or from the default config | 11:10 |
| ityaptin | jd__ : "wal-dir" in influxdb config generation. According to the description wal should compile different measures to one batch and flush it every couple of seconds | 11:12 |
| jd__ | ityaptin: yeah that option is now mandatory | 11:13 |
| jd__ | InfluxDB does not start without it | 11:13 |
| jd__ | I just set a default, that's it | 11:13 |
| ityaptin | jd__: Maybe we can play with wal options for avoid the writing issue? now it have many different option for batching data: https://github.com/influxdb/influxdb/blob/c5a82e062b42f4356a9d5229b95d13f94d9fe40b/etc/config.sample.toml#L45 | 11:15 |
| ityaptin | correct - https://github.com/influxdb/influxdb/blob/master/etc/config.sample.toml#L45 | 11:16 |
| jd__ | ityaptin: I have no clue, I would expect it to work by default | 11:16 |
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| ityaptin | How I see in relative bug cdent also trying to improve size of batched measures and it doesn't fix this issue completely( | 11:20 |
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| ityaptin | jd__: And another question should I write a spec for InfluxDB CQ aggregation | 11:27 |
| cdent | sorry, ityaptin, jd__: got pulled away for a bit there. I agree with jd that it seems like it ought to "just work" so we are somehow doing something wrong or influxdb is just busted | 11:27 |
| cdent | I can't imagine it is the latter because other people do use it successfully and we see the problems in _very_ light loads | 11:27 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: generally I agree with you but think that we will need to tune InfluxDB configuration in future. About our wrong working with InfluxDB - maybe we should to trying batch data before writing it to influx? How other guys made. | 11:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Rename list_events tests to list_samples tests https://review.openstack.org/229207 | 11:45 |
| ityaptin | For batching all measures from one polling packet. now we trying to write 1 measure by time according to regular ceilometer polling behavior. | 11:45 |
| ityaptin | because we have 1 measure for metric due the 1 polling interval generally | 11:46 |
| cdent | ityaptin: I don't think that will have any impact on the timeout problems: I'm able to cause the timeout problems when running the tests | 11:47 |
| cdent | but only intermittently | 11:47 |
| ityaptin | cdent: what is the duration of timeout? 1 minute? | 11:48 |
| cdent | the default that is being tickled is 5s. I've raised it to 15s in the past and it still happens. | 11:48 |
| cdent | I don't think it is really a timeout so much as a deadlock of some kind | 11:48 |
| ityaptin | this timeouts happen in tox -e <influxdb-job> ? | 11:50 |
| cdent | only sometimes | 11:50 |
| cdent | I can get it to happen reliably manually (running a devstack with ceilometer+gnocchi) and irregularly when tox -e $influxdb | 11:50 |
| ityaptin | cdent: what version of influxdb you run? | 11:51 |
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| cdent | this has happening with 0.9.2, 0.9.3, 0.9.4 and yesterday with the latest nightly | 11:52 |
| ityaptin | cdent: ok) I'm trying to get timeout with `tox -e $influxdb` for 0.9.4 and trying research the reason today. | 11:53 |
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| cdent | What I was doing yesterday was just running `tox -epy27-postgresql-influxdb -- TestStorageDriver` over and over | 11:54 |
| cdent | and every now and again it would timeout | 11:54 |
| cdent | unfortunately there are several tests in there that also fail (return the wrong data) so it is hard to be clear on what's going on | 11:54 |
| cdent | I tried to figure out why the wrong data was coming back but didn't figure it out. I think, but am not sure, that it is a problem in get_measures | 11:55 |
| ityaptin | cdent: also problem may be in influxdb python package. Yesterday i find that writing points via `time: datetime.datime()` or `time: "2015-09-29T00:00:00.123143+00:00"`does not work for 'n' time precision( | 12:00 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: In previous version it works | 12:00 |
| ityaptin | convert_timestamp doesn't work good, how i understand | 12:01 |
| ityaptin | but it doesn't raise any errors | 12:01 |
| cdent | :( | 12:01 |
| ityaptin | so, I replace it to int timestamp in my code, maybe it also affect | 12:02 |
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| ityaptin | let me try it today and I will fix known (for me) data writing/getting issues. Also, I want add Continuous Queries very strong, because it allow to avoid hacks for aggregation data in realtime. Influxdb queries is not designed for our realtime queries | 12:05 |
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| cdent | good luck! | 12:06 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: I will prepare a etherpad with my thoughts and design of CQ for Gnocchi | 12:14 |
| ityaptin | cdent: or we have a Gnocchi spec space? | 12:14 |
| cdent | ityaptin: that makes sense. For our own sanity it would be great if we could solve (or at least get a clear picture of) the problem with timeouts before adding any of the CQ stuff | 12:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: storage: remove index from measures_report() https://review.openstack.org/229391 | 12:15 |
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| gordc | jd__: question raised last night, are any plans to have default archive policy set by gnocchi? right now it seems to be set by ceilometer. | 13:27 |
| jd__ | gordc: you just have to set an archive policy rules for * | 13:28 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/gnocchi.py#L50-L53 | 13:28 |
| gordc | jd__: what's '*'? | 13:28 |
| jd__ | though I'm not sure it'd work as expected as I'm not sure there is any guarantee on the order of evaluation | 13:29 |
| jd__ | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/gnocchi/rest.html#archive-policy-rule set metric_pattern to * | 13:29 |
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| gordc | oh. yeah, i guess the issue was it'd be nice to have a path where we didn't have to define archive policy explicitly. | 13:31 |
| jd__ | you always have to define an archive policy for a metric, either explicitely, either by a rule | 13:31 |
| jd__ | I just created https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1501344 for that ordering issue | 13:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501344 in Gnocchi "Evaluation of archive_policy_rules is unspecified" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:31 |
| gordc | i think the comment was right now we have define policy, and set it to default in ceilometer. it'd be easier if there was a default policy provided by gnocchi if not explicit stated. | 13:32 |
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| jd__ | gordc: there's no archive policy created by default, so we can't really set any default | 13:34 |
| jd__ | default=??? :) | 13:34 |
| gordc | jd__: is archive_policy_rule overridden when you specify a policy explicitly? or is it AND? | 13:34 |
| jd__ | gordc: it's overriden | 13:34 |
| jd__ | the rule is just used when you set nothing in the creation request | 13:34 |
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| gordc | right. can we have a default rule? | 13:35 |
| gordc | the usability issue right now is that we need to sync default in two places. ie defined the default policy in ceilometer and then ensure that default exists in gnocchi. | 13:37 |
| gordc | s/default exists/policy exists/ | 13:38 |
| jd__ | what you need is to 1. create an archive policy in Gnocchi 2. set to use that as default in Ceilometer | 13:40 |
| jd__ | I'm not sure how to cut that | 13:40 |
| gordc | have a default rule in gnocchi which applies to all metrics... not possible? | 13:42 |
| alejandrito | morning, i have an ... existencial GNOCCHI question. i need to know how to do things "THE GNOCCHI WAY". lets suppose i have the "cpu.util" metric and for billing , showback and realtime metrics matters y need to store, i dunno, like a minnimum of 6 granularities for a metric, since i know i cant asociate more than one archive policy per metric, shoul i create a single policy with ALL my needed granularities ? and afte | 13:45 |
| alejandrito | r that ... if six months later y say "oh, i forgot to add one granularity because my bussiness changed" do i really need to delete all the data that metric got till that time, just because i need to add a new policy with all the previous granularities plus the new one ? again, i want to read from you whats the GNOCCHI WAY of doing things | 13:45 |
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| cdent | TheGnocchiWay™ | 13:45 |
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| jd__ | gordc: so you want: 1. create an archive policy in Gnocchi 2. Set the default archive policy rule in Gnocchi? We can do that, but if someone forget to do 2, the Ceilometer collector is going to blow – though I guess having a wrong default in current 2. also explodes | 13:48 |
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| jd__ | alejandrito: so for now, the answer is yes to have to do that way | 13:49 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: technically, we could make this use case simpler I guess, but we don't have such a feature yet | 13:49 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: the archive policies are never meant to be modified, but we could offer an API call that would COPY a metric to a new metric with a different archive policy, considering the archive policies has some overlap in their definition | 13:50 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, hooooooooooooooooooo !!!! that would be the ultimate solution ! would be amazing | 13:52 |
| alejandrito | jd__, since gnocchi will be heavily used for billuing purposes also, and "granularities" will vary constantly on the same metric drive by "bussiness" | 13:53 |
| alejandrito | gordc, thanks so much to engage with jd__ the default policy that we talked yesterday ^_^ | 13:53 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: yeah – keep in mind it's gonna likely be possible to downscale a metric (e.g. going from 5min to 1hour) but not to upscale | 13:53 |
| jd__ | I also want to explore the road of upscaling by offering a no-aggregation storage option but that's still a bit more far on my roadmap | 13:54 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, we feel that if downscale its possible for existing data | 13:57 |
| alejandrito | jd__, but upscale its for actual / future data, you have a lot fixed there already | 13:57 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: that should be possible indeed | 13:58 |
| jd__ | you'd need some tool to batch-apply that then, but nothing imposible | 13:58 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, for sure ^_^ what im wondering is how can we do to define how important is to have this done, and how can we help ? ( code included ) | 14:02 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: I'm gonna open bugs in Launchpad for a starter :) then I can't give you any deadline but we can try to split the work in pieces and move step by step | 14:04 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, that would be amazing, want me to open the bugs ? | 14:05 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: I'm gonna do that, just proof-read them :) | 14:06 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, terrific | 14:07 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1501352 that's a first one | 14:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501352 in Gnocchi "Allow to copy a metric with a different archive policy" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:07 |
| jd__ | you can subscribe to it | 14:07 |
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| jd__ | for upscaling I'm not sure how to do that currently, because having a definition that has no measures in an archive is going to give bad results in e.g. aggregation | 14:08 |
| alejandrito | jd__, starting with the copying policy we feel its an 100% improvement ^_^ | 14:09 |
| alejandrito | jd__, true that up/down scaling can take more time | 14:09 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1501355 | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501355 in Gnocchi "Allow to store measures with no aggregation" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 14:11 |
| alejandrito | jd__, the bug/feature its perfect | 14:11 |
| alejandrito | jd__, will read the secconf one | 14:11 |
| jd__ | feel free to add comments if you need | 14:12 |
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| gordc | jd__: maybe we can hide the default in client. if you post a metric without an archive policy, it will use default (and if that policy don't exist, it will create it also)... i think the key is that we shouldn't *need* to define a default in ceilometer | 14:14 |
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| jd__ | gordc: so we can make the default to None in Ceilometer and just send nothing by default, hoping there's an archive policy rule in Gnocchi that will match, how does that sound? | 14:16 |
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| gordc | jd__: and if there's no rule/policy it explodes? | 14:17 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, will add a comment to the seccond bug, that its the most time consuming | 14:19 |
| jd__ | gordc: if there's no rule it explodes | 14:20 |
| gordc | jd__: a little better i guess. was hoping to have a rule (and corresponding policy) just baked in... | 14:26 |
| gordc | but i guess ultimately there's no ideal rule/policy so that should probably configured regardless. | 14:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove deprecated existence meters https://review.openstack.org/228563 | 14:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove deprecated network existence meter https://review.openstack.org/228579 | 14:29 |
| jd__ | gordc: that's the root of the problem. we hardly can create a default archive policy and let people store metrics and then realise the 1 hour average is not fine enough… | 14:29 |
| alejandrito | jd__, gordc we will love to have the latest news about the "default archive policies" if we miss something and want to share it with us / want us to test something right away, you can reach us all at infra@nubeliu.com if anything is needed ^_^ | 14:30 |
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| gordc | jd__: ack. yeah. for devs it's a lot easier but reality probably not super useful. | 14:31 |
| gordc | alejandrito: just talking it over right now... ^^ | 14:32 |
| gordc | alejandrito: the problem with default is implicit defaults may not be very useful in reality. | 14:33 |
| gordc | everyone has different requirements. | 14:33 |
| gordc | ultimately it might make sense for users to create a policy and policy rule and use that as their default. | 14:34 |
| alejandrito | gordc, absolutely agreed, its a user's dutty to define not only the policies and the rules, but the default/fallback policy ^_^ | 14:36 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ and as a default policy, it should be on gnocchi's policy/rule side | 14:38 |
| alejandrito | gordc, not dispatcher | 14:38 |
| alejandrito | gordc, IMHO | 14:39 |
| jd__ | we can set the default value to None in dispatcher | 14:39 |
| gordc | alejandrito: makes sense to me. | 14:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: set the default archive policy to None https://review.openstack.org/229461 | 14:42 |
| jd__ | gordc: alejandrito ^^ | 14:42 |
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| gordc | jd__: here's your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1501372 | 14:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501372 in Ceilometer "archive_policy in gnocch dispatcher should be optional" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Julien Danjou (jdanjou) | 14:44 |
| gordc | maybe we can include this in liberty-rc2... seems safe enough | 14:45 |
| alejandrito | jd__, gordc that's amazing BUT, how can we define a default policy from gnocchis side ? its not currently supported right ? i mean ... a policy that matches if none matches and fallbacks to an archive policy | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: set the default archive policy to None https://review.openstack.org/229461 | 14:45 |
| gordc | alejandrito: you can define an archive_policy_rule | 14:45 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: create an AP rule that matches the metric_pattern '*' | 14:45 |
| gordc | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/gnocchi/rest.html#archive-policy-rule | 14:45 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, i was hoping for you to tell me that ... ( and we tested this yesterday )if you define a set of rules, but you define a rule with *, all other rules becomes null .. and every new metric ALLWAYS goes to * despite matching other rules | 14:48 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, gordc like there's no order on analyzing rules | 14:49 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: that's bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1501344 | 14:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501344 in Gnocchi "Evaluation of archive_policy_rules is unspecified" [Medium,Triaged] | 14:50 |
| jd__ | :-) | 14:50 |
| jd__ | easy to fix if you want to try | 14:50 |
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| gordc | jd__: what's your expected result for multiple matches? apply all matching rules rather than one? | 14:56 |
| alejandrito | jd__, what i meant, and i dunno if we are 100% synced, its that other that if .* gets analyzed or not, what i meant, its that if you have a set of rules like cpu.*, net.*, disk.* and then i define a rule that just says '*' all other rules are nullified and not analyzed just because a rule that says JUST * exists | 14:56 |
| gordc | alejandrito: i'm leaning towards applying all matching rules as the fix ^... what's your expected behaviuor? | 14:57 |
| jd__ | gordc: nah it should be first match applied, but you do not know what first is right now | 14:57 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: yeah that's what the bug is about | 14:57 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: you cannot know if '*' is going to be evaluated before disk.* | 14:58 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: same problem is going to appear for disk.* vs disk.io.* | 14:58 |
| gordc | jd__: when would you ever know what the first match is? | 14:58 |
| jd__ | gordc: if you know in which order they are evaluated | 14:58 |
| jd__ | e.g. alphabetical order of the rules (the rules have names) | 14:58 |
| gordc | jd__: that's a very tricky way to figure out ordering... | 14:59 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ we are desussing it here also ^_^ an alphabetical order of the rules names could be a solution | 15:00 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ OR, maybe adding a policy_rule_number field to every rule | 15:01 |
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| gordc | if you create a new rule, you'd need to rename rule(s) to get it in proper order? i don't ilke that. | 15:01 |
| jd__ | gordc: feel free to propose something better | 15:02 |
| jd__ | there's a bug opened :) | 15:02 |
| gordc | alejandrito: re: policy_rule_number, what if you have policies that are not related. | 15:02 |
| gordc | jd__: discussin it here now :) | 15:02 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ discussing it internally ^_^ hahaha | 15:03 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ we are thinking that if rule pattern | 15:05 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ just supports * wildcard, and aphabetical order (DESC) by the pattern and not by the name could work | 15:06 |
| gordc | alejandrito: what's a scenario where you match against multiple rules? | 15:08 |
| gordc | err nevermind. just read my quesion.lol | 15:09 |
| gordc | i asnwered it myself. | 15:09 |
| alejandrito | gordc, hahah | 15:09 |
| gordc | yeah i guess if the pattern works, that makes sense. | 15:10 |
| gordc | pattern ordering* | 15:10 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ we just tested it, and works like a charm ^_^ | 15:11 |
| gordc | :) | 15:11 |
| * gordc waits for the review. | 15:11 | |
| alejandrito | gordc, could be a good and cheap approach | 15:11 |
| alejandrito | gordc, to solve the DEFAULT rule | 15:12 |
| gordc | seems like it | 15:12 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, will add the comment on the bug | 15:13 |
| gordc | cool cool | 15:14 |
| jd__ | makes sense | 15:14 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: you send a patch? :) | 15:14 |
| alejandrito | jd__, we can try ^_^ can i send you a pastebin with the result ? | 15:16 |
| alejandrito | jd__, is that ok ? | 15:16 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: it's better than nothing :) paste it in the Launchpad bug | 15:16 |
| alejandrito | jd__, just because i dont quite understand the whole process to contrinute the right way :O | 15:17 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: sure, that's a good opportunity to learn it, but don't worry we'll fix it anyway :) | 15:17 |
| gordc | alejandrito: alejandro [ at ] nubeliu? we can add you as co-author if you're not sure how to contribute yourself | 15:20 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, infra@nubeliu.com would be great ^_^ we are on it now ! | 15:21 |
| alejandrito | gordc, thx so much | 15:21 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, sorry, dev@nubeliu.com ^_^ | 15:22 |
| gordc | that's a registered openstack account? | 15:22 |
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| alejandrito | hmmm , nope ... alejandro@nubeliu.com is | 15:57 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: Hi, again! | 16:20 |
| cdent | hello | 16:20 |
| ityaptin | cdent: I run tests on my private configured InfluxDb and watched wonder picture: After `n ` test iterations writing one any measure to `gnocchi` database take a long-long time. | 16:23 |
| gordc | sileht: is the zmq driver some special case? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227913/ | 16:23 |
| cdent | ityaptin: yeah that sounds familiar | 16:23 |
| ityaptin | cdent: even we make it via api from postman | 16:23 |
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| ityaptin | cdent: I have a unconfirmed suspicions that it caused by aged dates like '2014-01-01T00:00:00'. I'm going to run writing data with scatter up to 2 years and check writing rate. | 16:27 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ fix proposed for the rules matching ^_^ https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1501344 | 16:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1501344 in Gnocchi "Evaluation of archive_policy_rules is unspecified" [Medium,Triaged] | 16:27 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ tested and working OK when creating metrics that match, and metrics that dont match and goes to * rule ^_^ | 16:28 |
| gordc | alejandrito: nice. | 16:29 |
| gordc | thanks for the contribution! | 16:29 |
| alejandrito | gordc, hope it helps ! | 16:29 |
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| cdent | ityaptin: I wondered about that too | 16:34 |
| cdent | but will be distressed if that's the case | 16:34 |
| cdent | also it doesn't explain the problem seen when just using it for real in devstack | 16:35 |
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| cdent | ityaptin: yeah, given that it fails in regular use (with contemporary times) something else must be up | 16:38 |
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| gordc | jd__: i'm going to take the bug and build a test. please tell me to stop if you want it asap. | 16:45 |
| jd__ | gordc: #1501344 ? | 16:45 |
| gordc | yep | 16:45 |
| gordc | want it asap == you want the patch right away. not tell me if you want it... but that too. | 16:46 |
| jd__ | gordc: no go ahead | 16:47 |
| jd__ | that's a good idea :) | 16:47 |
| gordc | jd__: figured i'd start small. | 16:47 |
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| marcin_kosobucki | Could you guys give me some pointers to how to setup ceilometer alarm based on VM instance status (running, error) etc. Essentially I would like to have some auto-healing of heat stack. | 17:07 |
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| marcin_kosobucki | anybody? | 17:13 |
| alejandrito | marcin_kosobucki, with ceilometer alarms or with aodh ? | 17:15 |
| marcin_kosobucki | ceilometer | 17:16 |
| marcin_kosobucki | alarms | 17:16 |
| marcin_kosobucki | what is aodh | 17:19 |
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| alejandrito | marcin_kosobucki, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/architecture.html#alarming-service | 17:23 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ do you remember the review link so i can apply the change where the dispatcher passes None to gnocchi in the archive policy ? | 17:26 |
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| gordc | alejandrito: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229461/ | 17:33 |
| alejandrito | gordc, thx ! | 17:34 |
| gordc | marcin_kosobucki: alarming functionality in ceilometer repo is deprecated... it was moved to it's own service: Aodh | 17:34 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ we are seeing that the timestamp on measures get doesnt respond not even with the agents time, collector time nor the gnocchi api server, where is the timestamp supposed to come from ? | 17:38 |
| gordc | marcin_kosobucki: this might help http://myopensourcelife.com/2014/09/13/autoscaling-in-openstack-using-heat-and-ceilometer-part-1/ | 17:38 |
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| gordc | alejandrito: depends what the metric is. | 17:39 |
| alejandrito | gordc, wow, didnt expect that ! | 17:40 |
| alejandrito | gordc, that means ? | 17:40 |
| gordc | polled data usually corresponds to agent time. notification data might be when it's received, or when the service generated notification, or some time value the service gives us. | 17:40 |
| alejandrito | gordc, we know that not only agents and notifications, but servers composing the solution have the same timezone / time | 17:42 |
| nijaba | gordc: 12 entry so far in the survey, some good stuff | 17:43 |
| nijaba | I will not be able to join the meeting tomorrow, so wanted you to have an update | 17:44 |
| gordc | nijaba: cool! i think we'll leave it running for a while. | 17:44 |
| gordc | are the results only visible to creator? | 17:45 |
| nijaba | Anyone with edit rights can see the results | 17:45 |
| nijaba | I think you have those | 17:45 |
| gordc | nijaba: oh ok. i'll give it a try and will let you know if i have issus. | 17:45 |
| nijaba | gordc: you, julien and I have full access | 17:46 |
| gordc | nijaba: cool cool. | 17:46 |
| nijaba | beware that any change to the result spreadsheet are for good, so avoid that ;) | 17:46 |
| nijaba | gordc: it could be a good thing to ask people to relay the information. I have not seen many tweets about it apart from mine, for example | 17:47 |
| gordc | nijaba: good to know. i'll try to click as little as possible when i check. | 17:48 |
| gordc | nijaba: sure. i passed it on to product wg, they will mentioned via their twitter as well. | 17:50 |
| nijaba | good to hear. thanks | 17:50 |
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| marcin_kosobucki | gordc: Autoscaling based on cpu_util I can do easy, that is not a problem, what I want is to rebuild a VM if lets say its Compute hardware is in downgraded state, similar to what AWS offers | 18:13 |
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| gordc | marcin_kosobucki: is 'downgraded state' a hypothetical or real value? | 18:15 |
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| gordc | your question might better answered if asked in #heat if it's specifically about how to rebuild based on an alarm. | 18:16 |
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| gordc | ceilometer captures meters/metrics, aodh defines rules and triggers, heat acts on the alarms and orchestrates | 18:18 |
| marcin_kosobucki | gordc: downgraded is hypothetical state, what I am trying to do in Openstack is http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AutoScaling/latest/DeveloperGuide/healthcheck.html | 18:20 |
| marcin_kosobucki | schedule bad VM for termination and rebuilt | 18:21 |
| marcin_kosobucki | in heat room there is no help | 18:21 |
| gordc | "schedule bad VM for termination and rebuilt" would be something that you should ask in heat channel... or on openstack-operators mailing list | 18:24 |
| marcin_kosobucki | ok thank you gordc | 18:25 |
| gordc | i don't think we have full equivalence to AWS there. in Aodh, we just added support to track events and you could probably detect if something was 'downgraded'. | 18:26 |
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| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229461/ doesnt work, because that one sends the policies metric dict with nothing, this line stacks with KeyError https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/dispatcher/gnocchi.py#L343 | 19:21 |
| alejandrito | gordc, jd__ because it expects a policy on that dict | 19:21 |
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| jd__ | alejandrito: right :/ | 19:22 |
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| jd__ | alejandrito: add a not and -1 on the review I'll fix | 19:23 |
| gordc | crap. forgot how to debug gabbi again. | 19:25 |
| jd__ | alejandrito: updated | 19:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/ceilometer: gnocchi: set the default archive policy to None https://review.openstack.org/229461 | 19:29 |
| jd__ | gordc: verbose: True in your rule if you want | 19:29 |
| jd__ | 49926/50000, total: 311.98 seconds, rate: 160.03 done/second -> my initial Gnocchi benchmark on a small VM, creating metrics pretty good | 19:29 |
| gordc | jd__: is there a way to print entire response? | 19:30 |
| jd__ | gordc: verbose should do that | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/python-gnocchiclient: Add capabilities support to cli https://review.openstack.org/229584 | 19:31 |
| gordc | jd__: got it. thanks | 19:32 |
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| alejandrito | jd__, testing | 20:06 |
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