Wednesday, 2015-08-19

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/aodh: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/21402706:21
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed openstack/ceilometer: xenapi: support the session to "unix://local"  https://review.openstack.org/21448307:16
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use start status of coodinator in tooz  https://review.openstack.org/20144307:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: tox: generate sample config file on default target  https://review.openstack.org/21084210:28
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_gryfhi10:45
_gryfI've just started my brand new devstack setup with ceilometer enabled, and noticed that from dashboard i cannot access resource usage10:46
_gryfis it a known issue?10:47
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_gryfnote, that from commandline I can see statistics and meters…10:49
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: TEST: gate tests  https://review.openstack.org/21458012:07
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/21402712:09
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add evaluator for event alarm  https://review.openstack.org/20097213:08
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openstackgerritZhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add hypervisor inspector sanity check  https://review.openstack.org/21461213:42
openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add evaluator for event alarm  https://review.openstack.org/20097213:43
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: integration tests: stop on first failed test  https://review.openstack.org/21462714:03
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pradkgordc, so instead of target what if we call it attribute and let it be defined as a list or a string.. that way we can leverage the existing attribute logic from resource id14:27
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add listener service for event alarm evaluation  https://review.openstack.org/20097414:37
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arcimboldohi all, I have a question14:41
arcimboldothe "cpu" metric, what's actually counting?14:42
arcimboldothe cpu time used by the vm or just the wallclock time?14:42
arcimboldois this chan active?14:45
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support to compute cpu meters in yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21061914:45
cdentarcimboldo: it's active but people tend to only hear when they are either looking directly at it or are pinged14:46
cdentthe 'cpu' metric in nanoseconds of cpu time14:46
cdentit's _not_ wall clock14:47
cdentbrb14:47
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support to compute cpu meters in yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21061914:47
arcimboldocdent, thnx14:47
arcimboldocdent, the cpu metric doesn't seems right, then14:47
cdentthere's slightly more info here: http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/section_telemetry-compute-meters.html14:47
gordcarcimboldo: because it resets?14:49
arcimboldoI have a vm started ~20 hours ago, cpu_util reports an average 10% usage, it's using 8 cores, and cpu says ~130hours14:49
arcimboldo140 actually14:49
arcimboldoI use cpu.sum/1e+9/60/6014:50
arcimboldoto convert from ns to hours14:50
arcimboldoit should be ~16 hours instead14:50
gordcpradk: that's kinda what i wanted to avoid. i know you're reusing the attribute code but giving it a list doesn't make sense.14:50
arcimboldogordc, I don't know if it resets, but it gives results way higher than expected14:51
pradkgordc, i'm not giving it a list14:51
pradkvolume:14:51
pradk      attribute: payload.metrics[?(@.name='cpu.kernel.percent')].value14:51
pradk      scale: 10014:51
pradkis what i mean14:51
pradkfor resource id its the same attribute key with a list14:51
pradkjust want to keep the key as attribute14:51
pradkso we dont expose too many different keys to end user and confuse14:52
arcimboldocdent, what does ceilometer use to get the stats for the cpu? libvirt?14:52
pradkgordc, https://gist.github.com/pkilambi/938aa6e93de9f4386c14 is what i mean14:52
pradki dont want to call it target in one place and attribute in another14:53
gordcah i see you coded in new support14:53
gordcpradk: technically they aren't really related but sure. attribute is fine.14:54
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support to compute cpu meters in yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21061914:54
gordcarcimboldo: yes.. by default libvirt... there's xenapi, hyper-v, etc... if you don't use libvirt14:54
arcimboldogordc, I'm using libvirt, and virsh cpu-stats <domain> gives a totally different value14:55
arcimboldoit's in seconds, for starter14:55
arcimboldocould it be that ceilometer is getting the *total* value reported by libvirt, and it's then moltiplied  by the number of vcpus?14:56
gordcarcimboldo: what version are you running on?14:56
arcimboldo2015.1.0-0ubuntu1~cloud014:56
arcimboldoI'm on ubuntu trusty, using the cloud archive repositories14:56
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gordcarcimboldo: i'd need to debug but basically we're using cputime returned by https://libvirt.org/python.html15:01
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gordcarcimboldo: it's cputime across all vcpus. so yeah, you'll need to divide cputime by num of cpu15:09
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arcimboldosomewhere it's multiplied by the number of cpus15:10
arcimboldothe value I get from dom0.info() is 8 times lower than the number I get from statistics.list('cpu')15:11
arcimboldobut https://libvirt.org/html/libvirt-libvirt-domain.html#virDomainInfo is not clear if the cputime is the average or is total15:11
arcimboldoI guess is total15:12
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arcimboldoif I run virsh cpu-stats, the "total cpu_time" is actually what's reported by dom0.info()15:13
arcimboldothen, ceilometer reports a value which is ~8 times bigger, so maybe there is a bug in the code?15:13
gordcarcimboldo: trying to find somewhere it explicitly says it's total time across all vcpus.15:15
gordcarcimboldo: i don't see anywhere we multiply by vcpu... we actually divide cputime by vcpu to calculate cpu_util so it seems like we're expecting it.15:15
arcimboldogordc, just run virsh cpu-stats and then use the python code, you'll see the number from dom0.info() is the value reported as total cpu time15:15
arcimboldowhich makes sense, btw15:16
arcimboldobut wait.... this value is cumulative, right? So I should get the max, not the sum, right?15:18
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gordcarcimboldo: cumulative just denotes that the value will always increase (although it's not exactly true for libvirt cputime)15:25
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arcimboldogordc, why not? You just get the cputime, which is the amount of cpu time used so far15:32
arcimboldoso it will always increase, and if I want to know how much cpu time it used so far, I have to get the latest value15:32
arcimboldoactually, I should do cpu.max - cpu.min, in case I want to know how much cpu-time has been used *during said period*15:32
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gordcarcimboldo: the cputime libvirt provides will reset if you reboot15:33
arcimboldogordc, if you reboot the machine?15:33
arcimboldos/machine/server/15:33
arcimboldobut then it's totally useless!15:33
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arcimboldois there a delta instead of a sample?15:34
gordcreboot the instance. let me find the bug15:34
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gordcarcimboldo: the cpu value i get from ceilometer matches the total cpu_time i get usnig virsh15:36
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arcimboldogordc, yes, I think my issue was that I was using client.statistics('cpu').sum15:38
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gordcoh. yeah, that's just add all the cpu_time from all the instances.15:39
arcimboldowell, my query was for just one instance, but still, it's wrong using sum15:39
arcimboldobut again: how can I know the total cpu time used by a VM, even if it has been live-migrated or rebooted?15:39
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arcimboldoIf the value was a delta, I could have just summed all the samples from START_TIME to END_TIME15:40
arcimboldobut if I only have the value reported by virsh, I cannot compute the cpu time...15:41
arcimboldothe best solution, at this point, is to get the wallclock from nova and multiply by the cpu_util.avg15:41
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gordcarcimboldo: if we capture delta i don't think it'll be entirely accurate. we poll for cputime so all the time between poll and reboot would not be captured.15:43
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gordcarcimboldo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/141794915:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1417949 in Ceilometer "CPU samples reset to 0 for shutdown instances" [Undecided,Triaged]15:46
gordci vaguely remember asking nova dev about it and didn't reach a solution15:47
arcimboldoYou should add the last value to all following samples...15:48
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arcimboldobut it's not feasable15:48
gordcarcimboldo: right. again, it wouldn't be completely accurate... and it'd be a bit of a performance hit doing maths each time. i don't have a great answer tbh (not a libvirt expert myself)15:49
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rjaiswalgordc: put some comments in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/208068/ , wanted to chat about it15:53
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gordcrjaiswal: sure thing.15:56
gordcrjaiswal: regarding the partitioning?15:58
rjaiswalgordc: yes15:58
gordcright, so the issue is the reload_pipeline method is also used for partitioning. if you look at _refresh_agent, that gets called anytime an agent joins/dies.16:00
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gordcit uses reload_pipeline to recalculate all teh queues it needs to write to.16:00
rjaiswalok16:00
rjaiswali was thinking that enabling the event pipeline reload would ensure that only the event notifiers would get re-built16:01
gordcif we have partitioning on but the refresh_pipeline_cfg off, it will never recalculate the target queues.16:01
gordcrjaiswal: understood. maybe we can add a param which forces them to be run if it's called by workload partitioning?16:03
rjaiswalgordc: looking at the code now16:03
rjaiswalgordc: ah, got it16:05
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gordcrjaiswal: cool cool16:06
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rjaiswalthanks gordc for the pointer, i wasnt aware of that change to refresh_agent16:10
rjaiswalshud have looked at the code16:11
rjaiswalgordc: i will add a param and submit a patch16:11
gordcrjaiswal: no worries. i probably should've promoted that change a bit more.16:11
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support to compute cpu meters in yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21061916:49
openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adds support for dynamic event pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/20806816:52
cdentgordc: we heard anything about summit proposals yet?16:57
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Use start status of coodinator in tooz  https://review.openstack.org/20144316:58
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rjaiswalgordc: request you to triage:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1486660 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometermiddleware/+bug/148571117:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1486660 in Ceilometer "Sample not requeued or ack'ed on sample publishing failure " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3)17:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1485711 in ceilometermiddleware "ceilomiddleware.swift ignore the swift_source in environ" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3)17:09
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add support to compute cpu meters in yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21061917:20
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gordccdent: i haven't heard anything about speaker sessions. i assume it'll be an email.17:21
cdentack17:21
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gordccdent: just reminded me to ask my manager for travel approval.17:23
* cdent is gordc's pa17:24
gordci'll get you to sign my permission form.17:24
cdentsorry, I was speaking british: PA, personal assistant, secretary, that sort of thing17:26
cdentbut you know, if you need someone to sign your permission slip and put a sandwich in your lunch box, that's cool17:26
gordcsandwich? try harder! i demand caviar.17:27
cdentbeluga, of course17:27
gordcthe secretary part is a little more useful though... let's go with that service.17:28
* gordc will google tell me i'm an idiot if i google "beluga caviar" 17:28
gordcoh... there's a beluga fish... i was really scared what result i'd get with "beluga caviar"17:30
cdentI don't think you've seen enough bond movies17:30
gordccdent: i think it's more that my diet consists of "anything under 10$"17:31
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gordcwhy? is it referenced a lot in bond films?17:31
cdentI think so, usually when he's trying to impress the ladies: he'll order the most expensive champagne and most expensive caviar and their eyebrows will raise17:32
* gordc takes notes17:33
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EmilienMgordc: don't touch beluga, never17:36
gordcEmilienM: whale or fish? or both?17:37
cdentethics17:37
EmilienMgordc: whale17:37
cdentgordc: that reminds me of another movie for you17:38
cdentmillers crossing17:38
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cdentit's not whale though, it's sturgeon17:39
gordccdent: big coen bros fan?17:43
cdentthey rarely fail to entertain17:43
cdentand there's a lot of talk about efffics17:44
gordcwill watch... when i just watched the trailer i thought it was the movie Macaulay Culkin watches from home alone... then i realised it was the same year.17:44
gordcEmilienM: you see beluga in quebec?17:45
EmilienMgordc: in Tadoussac, 2h30 from here17:45
EmilienMthe only whales present all year in Saint Laurent17:45
gordcEmilienM: you should catch one and build a really big fish tank.17:46
gordccatch two so they have friends.17:46
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cdentgordc: you are full of big ideas, have you considered a career in politics17:49
EmilienMgordc: I'll go in jail if I do that17:50
EmilienMthey are protected and that's good17:50
gordccdent: i have. i need to form my own party. something that covers far-right and far-left but not the middle.17:51
cdentI think, based on "les extremes se touchent" you just declared yourself a fascist17:52
gordccdent: hahahah! done!17:53
gordcwe vote in a few months in Canada. i'll keep you posted.17:53
gordcEmilienM: you'll get deported.17:53
gordci'll take care of your apartment17:54
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cdentthanks17:55
* cdent has dinner18:01
gordcrjaiswal: i commented on ceilometermiddleware bug... not quite sure about details18:03
pradkgordc, Do you know if anyone covering ceilometer for the ops meetup? was just curious18:03
pradkdonno if they even have any topics around it18:04
gordcpradk: i don't believe so. last i checked, there wasn't anything ceilometer related, a lot of it seemed to be about external monitoring tools (sensu, nagios, etc...)18:04
pradkah ok18:05
gordcpradk: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PAO-ops-meetup this is the only etherpad i'm aware of18:07
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rjaiswalthanks gordc, will look at the code to confirm that18:22
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pradkgordc, any idea why the tempest tests could be failing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210619/ .. we got this when the meters.yaml was missing in devstack19:28
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gordcpradk: i don't know why but the ceilometer tempest tests are running slow as hell19:37
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pradkgordc, hmm ok.. the error looks like its because the sample wasnt added to the db on time19:43
pradkwe use to get this error when the yaml was missing19:43
pradki guess i'll recheck and see19:43
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gordcit's image.size meter. nothing to do you patch19:44
gordcif you look at the tests. they are all running super slow.19:44
pradkyea19:44
gordceven the non-telemetry ones... ours is the longest because we depend on actions of others.19:44
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gordcpradk: i think this is the begnning of the end of cycle gate implosion...19:52
pradkyea had to start sometime, thought we still had a week or so..guess not19:52
gordci honestly don't think any of our tempest tests will pass if it gets worse.19:53
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gordcpradk:  i have no idea how a test took 2 seconds on one check[1], and 120s on another check20:09
gordc[1] http://logs.openstack.org/68/208068/8/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/65b1830/console.html#_2015-08-19_18_18_18_49020:09
gordc[2] http://logs.openstack.org/19/210619/12/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-postgres-full/79c2a07/console.html#_2015-08-19_18_56_37_92120:10
pradkweird20:10
gordcroughly same time, test has nothing to do with the middleware or storage driver changes...20:11
gordcs/test/patch/20:11
gordcthey both seem to be on the same test node too20:12
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pradkyea i'm about to bring up my devstack instance with tempest, will see if its something i can reproduce locally.. i doubt it though20:13
pradksounds like its perhaps load on the node or some process hanging20:13
gordcpossibly? i don't know what to hope for. if it's a gate thing, it's not our fault but we'll have a hell of a time committing... if it is our fault, we have to find a bug and fix it but we'll still have a good gate...20:15
gordcseems like we're screwed either way.20:15
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pradkgordc, could be increase the timeout or whatever and see if it help? has not been added to the database within 196 seconds ..where would that limit be set?20:17
gordcpradk: we could. but if we haven't received a notification in 3mins, something must be up20:18
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pradkgordc, you see my response to your why we need multi comment in profiler one?20:46
gordcpradk: nope... looking now20:46
pradkthx20:46
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gordcpradk: oh... i wonder if we can name 'multi' something better. seems very hacky20:52
gordcpradk: i still don't understand why we need to have changes in meter.notifications.py20:53
pradkgordc, you mean the volume change?20:53
gordcyeah. normalise_as_list should return exactly that.20:54
pradkgordc, so when i tested with profiler tests, i was getting back 1 instead of [1] reason being the parse_fields method return the value as is if its of type int as we dont lookup any jsonpath's in that case20:55
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pradkgordc, in normalise_as_list we return whatever values = d.parse_fields(value, body, True) gives if it doesnt fit either conditions below20:57
pradkgordc, perhaps we could convert to list in this method instead20:57
pradkthis could also handle the case where we have multiple meter with volume =120:59
pradkregarding renaming multi,20:59
gordcoh. ok. i see the int clause in parse_fields21:00
gordcyeah, we should put it in noramlise_as_list method21:00
pradki'm open to it.. multi fits most cases, perhaps not this one21:01
pradksure i can move it to that method21:01
gordcre: rename multi. if we don't, we should at least explain put 'multi' if meter is not a static text21:02
pradkinstead of multi what if we call it query or lookup or search ? search: ['name']21:05
pradkbasically what it would mean is we search for that field in the jsonpath21:06
pradkjust thinking out loud21:06
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gordchmm... i like the names.21:08
gordcthe only thing is i think people will wonder why we don't need for anything other than scenarios where name is a lookup21:08
pradkyea i guess thats the case with any name if we dont document it21:11
pradkso we could leave it multi or change the logic to differentiate between payload.name vs actual static name and do the lookup21:12
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pradkwhich will be tricky as both are strings21:12
gordc... lookup/search are fine... i'm leaning more towards lookup21:13
pradkcool i'll go with lookup21:21
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Move profiler meters to yaml  https://review.openstack.org/21383221:33
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add flexible grouping key  https://review.openstack.org/20414021:49
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: allow configurable pipeline partitioning  https://review.openstack.org/21481321:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Change and move the workers options to corresponding service section  https://review.openstack.org/20933322:52
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