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| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add 'event' type and 'event_rule' to alarm API https://review.openstack.org/200967 | 01:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add 'event' type and 'event_rule' to alarm API https://review.openstack.org/200967 | 01:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Exclude event type from targets of alarm evaluator https://review.openstack.org/200969 | 01:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add evaluator for event alarm (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/200972 | 01:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add event alarm evaluation service (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/200974 | 01:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add count functionality for listing event https://review.openstack.org/197859 | 03:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add count functionality for listing event https://review.openstack.org/197859 | 04:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ryota MIBU proposed openstack/aodh: Add event alarm evaluation service (WIP) https://review.openstack.org/200974 | 06:52 |
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| _nadya_ | sileht, jd__ : hi, folks! One quick question about summit results. What we've decided about new features in alarming part? It should be implemented only in Aodh? And aodh-related specs should be suggested through ceilometer-specs? | 10:32 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: I think for implementation it should only be Aodh. I don't think we touched the specs, I think we can keep the specs there for now and consider having a specs repo for Aodh from the next cycle | 10:47 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: hi :) | 10:48 |
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| _nadya_ | ildikov: hi! :) I'm talking about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184816/ . But maybe it's not a bad idea to keep all Telemetry-related specs in one repository? | 10:50 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: it depends, I mean if once we will have different review groups for the different repose, then it's better to have the specs repos separate too | 10:52 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: yeap, I saw your comment on that one, I think you're right and it should target Aodh, I'm still waiting for the author to answer a few of my comments there | 10:53 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: I don't know the status of it, I commented on it quite a while ago | 10:54 |
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| _nadya_ | ildikov: I hope it's still alive. Looks good | 11:02 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: yeap, agreed | 11:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/gnocchi: Sort metric data before grouping and processing https://review.openstack.org/201104 | 12:11 |
| liusheng | Hi folks, I wonder why the gnocchi dispatcher and resource models need to be copied to ceilometer tree ? see: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178209/ | 12:14 |
| liusheng | I have found an issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1473950, but when I try to figure it out, I found that the gnocchi dispatcher extension will be loaded twice (both in ceilometer and gnocchi) | 12:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1473950 in Ceilometer "DuplicateOptError raised when using gnocchi dispatcher" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Liusheng (liusheng) | 12:17 |
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| gordc | cdent: you get a change to read proposal? | 13:33 |
| gordc | chance | 13:33 |
| cdent | gordc: very briefly and then my internet exploded and now I’m miles from home surfing the starbucks internet | 13:34 |
| cdent | bt: we will try to fix it in the next 48 hours | 13:34 |
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| gordc | lol cool cool. | 13:34 |
| cdent | the thing that stood out for me was that I thought a-la-carte meant using the differnt pieces for greater good | 13:34 |
| cdent | not data architecture | 13:34 |
| gordc | cdent: ah, you mean like using the different services of ceilometer? | 13:35 |
| cdent | now that i have some wiffy I’ll talke a closer look, leave comments, change everything etc | 13:35 |
| * cdent nods | 13:35 | |
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| gordc | cdent: prad and ildikov are doing a talk related to that. you might want to join them | 13:35 |
| cdent | that’s the other description on that page, yes? | 13:36 |
| gordc | cdent: i sorta did that same topic last time so i didn't feel like doing the same thing again. | 13:36 |
| cdent | what I wanted to talk about was: writing plugins for ceilometer so that you don’t have to wait for the tedious openstack process to get new stuff | 13:36 |
| gordc | cdent: sort of. the other one is highlighting some of the design changes we've made, and seeing whether or not they improved performance. | 13:37 |
| gordc | the first one is how you can use the declarative models (events and meters) to build whatever the hell you want. | 13:37 |
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| gordc | (to an extent) | 13:37 |
| cdent | once I’ve settled I’ll take a closer look | 13:38 |
| cdent | and harrangue you | 13:38 |
| gordc | cdent: cool cool | 13:39 |
| ildikov | hi | 13:40 |
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| ildikov | I saw my name :) we already submitted the proposal about the architectural changes | 13:42 |
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| cdent | jd__, _nadya_: on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1154237 (opentsdb for gnocchi) | 13:47 |
| openstack | cdent: Error: Error getting bugzilla.redhat.com bug #1154237: NotPermitted | 13:47 |
| cdent | whops wrong paste: this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107986/ | 13:47 |
| cdent | one of the things we almost but not quite talked about last week was whether we wanted to host a bunch of drivers in gnocchi that weren’t targeted as “the choice”. I’m not sure what we decided | 13:48 |
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| _nadya_ | cdent: yep, agreed. From one hand it's good to have 'the draft' for opentsdb driver. but from another hand we need a maintainer | 13:49 |
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| gordc | cdent: i believe we were targeting influx as our driver. since on other drivers are being worked on, we didn't consider 'more drivers' question. | 13:50 |
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| gordc | are not* | 13:50 |
| cdent | gordc, _nadya_ so that leaves the question are we interested in merging the opentsdb code if it hasn’t had anyone looking at it since march? | 13:52 |
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| cdent | seems like the answer ought to be no | 13:52 |
| cdent | or perhaps: if no one steps up to rebase it soon it should be abandoned (it can always be restored later) | 13:53 |
| gordc | cdent: just looking at that now. i agree with 'abandon unless someone steps up' | 13:53 |
| gordc | it seems like it doesn't work, is just untested framing code. | 13:53 |
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| ildikov | IIRC Dina had some fixes in OTSDB or in the client, I'm not sure whether there was a state when it fully worked or not | 13:55 |
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| _nadya_ | it would be better to choose influx as a main driver and optimize the work with it instead of having several not optimized drivers | 13:56 |
| gordc | _nadya_: +1 | 13:57 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: +1 | 13:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Transformers for events pipeline https://review.openstack.org/162167 | 14:05 |
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| cdent | gordc: you looking for buddies on both of these proposals? If just one, which? And do you want proofreading? | 14:26 |
| gordc | cdent: both. not that i'm asking you to join both. both topics are just me currently. | 14:28 |
| gordc | it's an open invite to anyone really. | 14:28 |
| cdent | I’m currently typing on the second one to tighten up the language | 14:29 |
| cdent | that one is probably most useful to me in terms of learning stuff and advancing the art and such | 14:29 |
| gordc | cdent: sure. yeah that one might be a bit more technical/design focused. | 14:30 |
| gordc | the first one is more user focused. | 14:30 |
| * cdent lives in an ivory tower | 14:30 | |
| gordc | i don't really know how long of a presentation i can build from first one... maybe 15mins top | 14:30 |
| _nadya_ | what proposals are you discussing? for summit? | 14:31 |
| gordc | _nadya_: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EfmivisuxTiHGmKStuseztIGiwUXhfs_OfwMyuG2HJY/edit?usp=sharing | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Namespace functions in devstack plugin https://review.openstack.org/200535 | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Implementation of dynamically reloadable pipeline https://review.openstack.org/190842 | 14:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Implementation of dynamically reloadable pipeline https://review.openstack.org/190842 | 14:32 |
| gordc | _nadya_: i had two ideas... just seeing if anyone is interested... i'm open to changing/modifying ideas. | 14:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative meters support https://review.openstack.org/197633 | 14:34 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: ok, thanks for sharing | 14:34 |
| gordc | _nadya_: np | 14:34 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: I've remembered that IlyaT did some work for performance tests. Maybe it makes sense to get another look on them and reuse? | 14:37 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: at scripts I mean | 14:37 |
| gordc | _nadya_: that'd be good. right now the only measurements i have is storage size of mongo vs sql | 14:39 |
| cdent | gordc: i’ve edited the second proposal | 14:39 |
| cdent | if you’re happy that I haven’t ruined that one I’ll do similar to the first | 14:39 |
| gordc | _nadya_: i remember Ilya had some tests related to notification throughput | 14:39 |
| gordc | cdent: i trust your english more than mine. | 14:40 |
| cdent | roger | 14:41 |
| gordc | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EfmivisuxTiHGmKStuseztIGiwUXhfs_OfwMyuG2HJY/edit# i changed the link so anyone comment. | 14:42 |
| cdent | gordc: In the first paragraph of the first one do you mean “instance” or “instant”? | 14:44 |
| gordc | cdent: instant. | 14:45 |
| cdent | fixed, thanks | 14:45 |
| gordc | cdent: thanks. | 14:46 |
| cdent | yeah, so dibs/shotgun on the reimagining one if that’s cool | 14:46 |
| gordc | cdent: works for me. | 14:46 |
| cdent | it’s something I’ve been wanting to poke at anyway | 14:46 |
| gordc | i think i need to expand scope of first topic. i don't know how far i can get by just describing how to use declarative definition files. | 14:48 |
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| cdent | 👍 | 14:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] The start of a grenade plugin for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/196441 | 14:49 |
| cdent | gordc: does it make any sense to talk about out of tree plugins? | 14:50 |
| gordc | cdent: the devstack/grenade stuff you're doing? | 14:50 |
| gordc | or the powervm stuff? | 14:50 |
| gordc | or something else. | 14:50 |
| cdent | no, I mean: “i don't know how far i can get by just describing how to use declarative definition files.” does it make any sense to add to that | 14:50 |
| gordc | cdent: yeah, i just don't know what 'out of tree plugins' are. | 14:51 |
| cdent | so right now a pollster or a notificatio handler is defined as an entry_point in setup.cfg | 14:52 |
| cdent | anything can add to ceilometer’s entry_points, it doesn’t have to be in the ceilometer code tree | 14:52 |
| cdent | this is, in fact, the correct way to do plugins | 14:52 |
| cdent | but for whatever reason openstack doesn’t fly that way | 14:52 |
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| gordc | cdent: ah i see. yeah i guess that can be added. i think that's what some people are doing right now. | 14:55 |
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| gordc | cdent: i guess that works a bit better now that you removed 'without having to hack ceilometer' bit i had. | 14:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: add Trove(DBaaS) events https://review.openstack.org/200746 | 14:56 |
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| cdent | I just changed “hack” to “change” to make it less colloquial | 14:57 |
| gordc | works for me. | 14:57 |
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| cdent | gordc: If somebody doesn’t step up for the external ceilometer plugin bit, then I could probably do that too, but I’m happy to leave that for somebody else (but would like to it happen) | 14:59 |
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| gordc | cdent: kk. i'll let you know if anyone raises their hand. | 15:04 |
| gordc | i'll submit proposals tonight/tomorrow morning. | 15:04 |
| gordc | probably tomorrow morning | 15:04 |
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| gordc | cdent: you can add a blurb about external plugins if you think it's important to call it out explicitly. | 15:05 |
| cdent | I think it could potentially draw people in, so will do. | 15:06 |
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| gordc | cdent: cool cool. thanks! | 15:09 |
| * cdent missed his calling as an editor | 15:10 | |
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| gordc | too stressful a job. it'd require working. | 15:11 |
| gordc | that's why we chose software. | 15:11 |
| * cdent doesn’t remember choosing | 15:12 | |
| gordc | sorry, software chooses the lost and disenfranchised. the choice was made for you... for us all. | 15:14 |
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| cdent | this explains a great deal | 15:16 |
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| cdent | gordc or somebody can you tap this in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195670/ It will help with making fancy stuff for the aodh devstack plugin | 15:47 |
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| gordc | cdent: done | 15:51 |
| cdent | thanks gordc | 15:52 |
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| prad | gordc, when ceilometer-polling service starts, does it automatically poll against the agents(central/compute) or do we have to explicitly tell? | 15:59 |
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| gordc | prad: sorry. went to lunch. you need to define a namespace when you start agent and it'll load pollsters associated with namespace | 16:49 |
| gordc | i think by default it loads both compute and central pollsters | 16:49 |
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| prad | gordc, cool | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Make ceilometer work correctly when hosted with a SCRIPT_NAME https://review.openstack.org/195670 | 17:02 |
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| slogan621 | question: what was the motivation for the OpenDaylight and Contrail network drivers (in other words, why are they not simply writing counters to the OSLO bus like other components publishing to ceilometer would)? I found the blueprint but not really clear what makes them different, and I haven't found much of anything in the docs about this other than the discussions of polling vs publishing via agents. | 17:21 |
| slogan621 | I know both expose a RESTful API but anything writing to OSLO bus could also have a RESTful API. Maybe it's because they are related to networking, and are platforms of some significant size and there was a desire to treat them special in networking/ceilometer? | 17:24 |
| gordc | slogan621: i'm not sure there's a specific reason for polling vs notifications | 17:26 |
| Beetnik | (Another) Question: Would I be able to get the sum/amount of pool members from network.services.lb.member ? | 17:26 |
| gordc | from ceilometer pov, we prefer notifications but it seems like neutron is not able to provide that functionality for it's drivers currently. | 17:27 |
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| slogan621 | gordc: good morning! well, notifications are claimed to be preferred. What I am asking about is this code here: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/network/statistics | 17:30 |
| slogan621 | so, there are a handful of counters that neutron will supply - things like packets sent, received, etc.. | 17:31 |
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| gordc | Beetnik: to count live members? i'm about to head to meeting, i'd need to look into code more but i don't think that's possible... you'd need to derive that value | 17:33 |
| gordc | slogan621: going to meeting. but again, we have polling functionality when data is not available through notificatoins | 17:33 |
| slogan621 | gordc: thanks. I think I'll see if I can get more info from the mail list on this. | 17:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: add Trove(DBaaS) events https://review.openstack.org/200746 | 17:50 |
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| gordc | prad: lets chat here. | 20:38 |
| prad | cool | 20:38 |
| gordc | is the error in oslo.messaging? | 20:39 |
| gordc | could you paste full error | 20:39 |
| prad | yea one sec | 20:40 |
| prad | gordc, http://paste.openstack.org/show/372240/ | 20:41 |
| prad | gordc, same error through the tests and in the logs.. just isolated to that | 20:41 |
| gordc | hmm.. i guess you'll need to set event_type=None and make https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/agent/plugin_base.py#L96-L97 | 20:43 |
| gordc | conditional | 20:43 |
| gordc | i guess python just fails when you try to match everything. | 20:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/199515 | 20:52 |
| prad | gordc, hmm ok | 20:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sergey Vilgelm proposed openstack/ceilometer: Switch to the oslo_utils.fileutils https://review.openstack.org/199515 | 21:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200659 | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/201335 | 21:08 |
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| prad | gordc, instead of '*', '.' seems to match all | 21:11 |
| gordc | prad: i think .* matches everything... that said, it's probably safer/better to just pass in None and not bother with regex matching | 21:18 |
| prad | gordc, we still need to set the filter_rule to something right? | 21:23 |
| prad | gordc, .* seems to do what we want? | 21:24 |
| gordc | no. you can skip it or maybe pass in None as event_type in filter. | 21:24 |
| gordc | you can set event_type = None in your endpoint | 21:25 |
| gordc | and then modify plugin_base to only set self.filter_rule if event_type is not None | 21:25 |
| prad | sure that works too, but needs additional code change.. you see any potential issues with .* ? | 21:27 |
| gordc | you're doing a regex comparison for no reason? | 21:27 |
| gordc | you can do put a fixme if you want. | 21:28 |
| gordc | prad: i have to step out, got to run and set up baseball diamond. | 21:28 |
| prad | so the filter_rule only comes into play if set? else oslo allows everything? | 21:29 |
| gordc | yep | 21:29 |
| prad | cool | 21:29 |
| gordc | will be back later tonight if you have any issues. ttyl | 21:29 |
| prad | laters | 21:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Declarative meters support https://review.openstack.org/197633 | 22:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/200897 | 22:16 |
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