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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Update the requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19895003:43
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openstackgerritliusheng proposed openstack/aodh: Minor changes for evaluator service  https://review.openstack.org/19895103:50
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openstackgerritshubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Author: shubham_chitranshi Date: Mon 29th June 2015 10:20 AM (Indian Standard Time)  https://review.openstack.org/19653505:19
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openstackgerritshubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adding valid values of operator to response, when query operator is invalid for ceilometer event api call  https://review.openstack.org/19653506:23
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: fix log msg typo in api utils  https://review.openstack.org/19898506:51
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_nadya__sileht: hi!07:59
sileht_nadya__, hi08:00
_nadya__sileht: could you please share your plans about influxDB driver for Gnocchi? IlyaT is actively working on it, I think we need to sync up08:01
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sileht_nadya__, I have no real plan, we just have to check the current code still works with the finally released 0.9 version08:03
sileht_nadya__, I have seen that some people want to use more the tag system and the continous query, but I haven't plan to do it08:04
sileht_nadya__, one of the complains is that influx ingest data in an async ways, but that fixed now in gnocchi08:05
silehtwe do the same things08:05
_nadya__sileht: aha, ok! We've decided to finish the first version of driver (Ilya is working on searchValue now), merge it. After that try to use tagging08:06
sileht_nadya__, cool, go ahead08:06
_nadya__sileht: ok :)08:07
openstackgerritIgor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Timeout mechanism for Event Alarm Evaluator  https://review.openstack.org/19900508:10
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Spike at making the pollsters send notifications  https://review.openstack.org/19886509:32
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openstackgerritshubham chitranshi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Added valid values of operator to response body  https://review.openstack.org/19653509:37
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_nadya__cdent: hi Chris! we have a sad situation here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer/Liberty_Virtual_Mid-Cycle#Topics :(12:03
cdent_nadya__: yes, I agree12:04
cdentbut there's only so much we can do beyond organizing the thing12:04
cdentIf people don't want to actually follow through we can't take it upon ourselves to do everything12:05
cdentlet's make gordc make everyone do something12:05
pradwe should probably default to the owner of these bp's?12:05
cdentonly a small number of those things have bps?12:06
pradhmm ok12:06
cdentildikov: you around?12:06
cdentprad: but certainly some of them do12:06
cdentprad would you be willing to drive gnocchi pr?12:07
_nadya__no actually. event alarming have. liusheng, hi :)12:07
liusheng_nadya__: hi12:07
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openstackgerritDivya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Add user/project information to audit event traits  https://review.openstack.org/19853612:08
_nadya__liusheng: would you like to drive event-based alarming ?12:08
pradcdent, i can if jd doesnt want to.. but It would be good if he can lead that12:09
pradhe probably has better idea on the future12:09
liusheng_nadya__: sure! I'm glad12:09
cdentI think it would be better if someone other than jd__ leads it because it's not that we need to discuss what the planned future _is_ but what the planned future should be12:09
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cdentso someone who knows the right questions to ask is the better driver, not someone who knows the answers12:10
liusheng_nadya__: you mean the event-alarm-evaluator bp?12:10
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_nadya__liusheng: yep, but I think we may discuss events alarm by timeout and event bracketing within the same session, what do you think?12:11
openstackgerritDivya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Add user/project information to audit event traits  https://review.openstack.org/19853612:12
idegtiarovliusheng, I can share my thoughts about timeout event alarming I've post spec on review today12:12
liusheng_nadya__: yes, I just found the timeout-event-alarm-evaluator spec12:13
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liushengidegtiarov: I like the idea about event transformers :)12:16
idegtiarovliusheng, that is great :) now timeout part is got out from event transformer to event alarm evaluator is it make sense for you?12:20
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_nadya__idegtiarov, liusheng, prad, cdent, jd__, I've created several etherpads (check https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer/Liberty_Virtual_Mid-Cycle#Topics), please if you want - write smth down12:21
openstackgerritDivya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add user/project information to audit event traits  https://review.openstack.org/19853612:21
pradcool, thx _nadya__12:21
idegtiarov_nadya__, thanks!12:22
liushengidegtiarov: I am thinking about that, does the timeout event alarm base on the event alarm evaluator feature?12:22
liushengidegtiarov: sorry I just starting to read you new spec12:23
liusheng_nadya__: thanks12:23
idegtiarovliusheng, np12:24
cdent_nadya__++12:24
liushengidegtiarov: is there any common logical?12:25
dikonoorgordc:Hi gordc. Could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198536/12:25
idegtiarovliusheng, if we need to create alarm because of timeout it would be based on event that were set in event sequence12:25
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dikonoorgordc: I have made changed to Traits to include user/project info.12:26
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dikonoordikonoor: I don't think the changes I initially thought would be needed for keystonemiddleware is now required12:27
liushengidegtiarov: I'm a bit confused by the "Alternatives" of your spec :(12:28
liushengidegtiarov: is this a separate another way to implement event-timeout-based alarm ?12:30
gordcdikonoor: that's good to know12:31
dikonoorgordc: Lately I have been getting following error when I try to run ceilometer tox testcases locally :12:31
dikonoorTraceback (most recent call last):12:31
dikonoor  File "/home/ubuntu/openstack-src/ceilometer/.tox/py27/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/unittest2/loader.py", line 445, in _find_test_path12:31
dikonoor    module = self._get_module_from_name(name)12:31
dikonoor  File "/home/ubuntu/openstack-src/ceilometer/.tox/py27/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/unittest2/loader.py", line 384, in _get_module_from_name12:31
dikonoor    __import__(name)12:31
dikonoor  File "ceilometer/tests/volume/test_notifications.py", line 19, in <module>12:31
dikonoor    from ceilometer.volume import notifications12:31
dikonoor  File "ceilometer/volume/notifications.py", line 22, in <module>12:31
dikonoor    from ceilometer.agent import plugin_base12:31
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dikonoor  File "ceilometer/agent/plugin_base.py", line 24, in <module>12:32
dikonoor    from oslo_log import log12:32
dikonoorImportError: No module named oslo_log12:32
dikonoorgordc: Not sure if this is something specific to me.12:32
gordcdikonoor: you have stale files.12:32
gordcrun either this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198815/12:32
gordcor git clean -xf (this might throw away some random files so make sure everything you have is committed)12:33
gordcdikonoor: i had a question why we don't run 'enforce' before/during query rather than post query.12:33
dikonoorgordc: post query is to ensure that the events returned is filtered against the rbac rule12:34
dikonoorgordc: i e I am trying to return only those events that complies with the policy.json rule12:35
dikonoorgordc: an example where pre  makes more sense is in a POST operation12:36
dikonoorgordc: to ensure that the user has permission to perform that operation12:36
idegtiarovliusheng, as first approach I suppose alarm creation  directly in transformer part and in that case it is an other way12:36
gordcdikonoor: right so i thinking more that you could just past in the the project/user ids as query filter themselves.12:37
gordcdikonoor: or does that not work?12:37
gordcthat way, the query itself only returns valid values.12:38
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dikonoorgordc: you mean as part of the event_filter, if I specify that I want events only for this user_id/project_id, the query filter will return me only those events..12:39
liushengidegtiarov: yes, I got it, so you propose the second way now and want to abandon the first or keep the both ?12:39
gordcdikonoor: what does your result return now? (apologies for stupid question)12:40
dikonoorgordc: :) it returns events after applying the rule as defined in the policy.json12:41
dikonoorgordc: this rule can be changed based on what the end user wants..FOr eg. I cna have rule that says -     "owner": "user_id:%(user_id)s",    "telemetry:get_events": "rule:owner"12:42
gordcdikonoor: i see.12:43
gordcdikonoor: we had this question last week, but what is the behaviour when project/user are not available? is it admin only or is it open to everyone?12:44
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dikonoorgordc: without the changes I made, the rbac or permission thing was hard-coded..12:46
dikonoorhttps://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2/events.py#L23812:46
idegtiarovliusheng, as I understand from transformer spec discussion reviewers have found idea of adding event transformer fair enough, but timeout alarms should be shifted to Alarm part12:46
dikonoorgordc: only admins could access events and they could access all events..12:46
dikonoorhttps://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2/events.py#L25512:46
dikonoorgordc: RBAC was not controller based on the rules defined in the policy.json . It was hard-coded.12:47
gordcdikonoor: yep. i realise that. ildikov and i were discussing last week it'd be good for the behaviour to be: if you have project in event, you can scope permissions, and if it's missing, it'd default to admin-only12:48
gordcis that possible to do with your patch?12:48
gordcor a followup patch12:48
dikonoorgordc: So if user_id, project_id info is present use that ..otherwise only admin should have access..yes I think so..The rule in the policy.json to something like this >> "user_id:%(user_id)s" or "role:admin"12:50
dikonoorbut let me try that and get back..12:50
dikonoorgordc: but with the current patch, the intent is that any rule defined in the policy file should work12:51
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gordccool. thanks dikonoor!12:51
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liushenggordc: Hi gordc, idegtiarov has upload a new spec about timeout-event alarm and proposed another way than the https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162167/, if you have time, could please take a look ?12:54
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liushenggordc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199005/1, thanks a lot12:55
gordcliusheng: sure12:55
openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Minor changes for evaluator service  https://review.openstack.org/19895112:56
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dikonoorgordc: on the "ImportError: No module named oslo_log" error , I tried both the solutions you suggested..Still getting it :(13:04
gordcdikonoor: oh, i didn't read it properly.lol13:05
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ildikovgordc: dikonoor: yeap, +1 for the direction :)13:06
gordcdikonoor: maybe try rebuilding your env, ie. tox -r -epy27 (assuming you are using py27 test)13:06
dikonoorgordc: ok..This time did you really read it13:07
gordcdikonoor: partially. i'm mostly just guessing.13:07
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gordcit's really one or the other usually.13:08
dikonoorgordc: Trying..13:09
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to meter list  https://review.openstack.org/19881813:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: fix log msg typo in api utils  https://review.openstack.org/19898513:14
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: fix log msg typo in api utils  https://review.openstack.org/19898513:14
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Spike at making the pollsters send notifications  https://review.openstack.org/19886513:50
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cdentgordc: that ^ works™13:50
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gordccdent: was just looking at that.13:52
gordccdent: you mean the tests past too or that it works?13:52
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cdentworks™ means "wow, who knows, it makes samples and the tests pass but who can trust that stuff"13:53
gordcfair enough13:54
gordcyeah the question i had was if you profiled: many small messages vs one big message performance13:54
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cdentearlier today I drove it pretty hard and it seemed pretty happy (several polling agents, several notification agents, 1 second polling interval)13:54
cdentI haven't had a chance to officially profile it yet, I'm not sure how best to set that up13:55
gordcif it's not difference than i'm cool. but i'd like to at least do (some) test13:55
gordci think you can do rabbitmqctl status to get memory usage.13:55
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gordcbut simple test would be can the notification agent pull in messages quick enough or is the queue just growing.13:56
cdentI think we need to be conscious of the fact that in a world of horizontal scaling, we want to make individual messages quick and fast13:56
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cdentanyway a) I have to do a meeting in a moment b) I have a question for you that you can stew on at some point to give me a tidy answer: How do the notification agents do aggregate transforms in their pipelines when there are multiple agents and [blah blah blah] what about caches?13:57
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gordccdent: yeah, i know. just want to confirm. it technically could go either way. you trade small payload vs more config overhead.13:58
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gordccdent: this -> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1QgjDOLRnKDboqP8P1LvV0kR5aQEv_VJsDtMlh6u7tIY/edit?usp=sharing14:01
cdentthanks gordc I've seen that before but it makes no sense to me (cuz i'm toit in the head) you can just assure me by saying "it just works!"14:02
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gordccdent: basically there's a queue for each 'pipeline', the notification agent grabs message/build data, pushes to appropriate queue14:03
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gordcthen there is a pipeline 'worker' which process just single queue. so all the aggregate/calculations are local and specific to just a single pipeline.14:04
gordcappropriate 'pipeline' queue*14:04
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gordcildikov: did you hash out your summit proposal?14:14
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ildikovgordc: I cooperate with prad on the componentization one14:16
ildikovgordc: Gnocchi is still an open question14:16
gordcildikov: cool cool. just curious how you're going to make the componentisation one different from what we did at vancouver summit.14:17
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ildikovgordc: which one you're referring to?14:19
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ildikovgordc: sorry, I'm on a phone meeting in parallel, so I might have stupid questions :)14:20
gordcildikov: the talk prad and i gave... we did deployment/architecture in that talk.14:20
gordcildikov: no worries. i'm just asking random questions. i'll take a look later.14:21
ildikovgordc: I haven't seen that one, but I guess we will focus more on the recent changes and the impacts of them14:22
ildikovgordc: how much that talk included Gnocchi? did it?14:24
gordcildikov: not much i guess. it was really broad. it went over architecture, each component of ceilometer, how to use different components for different use cases, hints to using ceilometer, and future plans14:25
gordcildikov: so yeah, it covered a little of everything.14:25
ildikovgordc: a-ha, got it, although I still think it would be good to talk about Gnocchi too, but I'm not that involved at the moment to do that, at least not alone14:26
gordcildikov: right. it'd be good to have hopefully the influx driver in.14:27
ildikovgordc: do you mean it from Summit tlak PoV?14:29
gordcildikov: yeah. i think it'd be nice to show it with a production driver (i think we've had quite a few talks on what Gnocchi is already)14:30
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gordcor maybe a demo talk.14:30
ildikovgordc: did we have any in Vancouver?14:30
ildikovgordc: although I agree on the Influx comment, and having a demo sounds nice also14:31
gordcwe had ops session... and there's quite a few talks done by eglynn and jd__.14:31
gordcjd__: any plans on a talk about gnocchi?14:32
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ildikovwell, it's still an open item, I think it's good to advertise it as much as we can so people start using it and we can get feedback14:34
cdentgordc gimme a topic14:36
gordci wonder what the results were from cern14:36
gordctim bell never replied to my last email14:36
gordccdent: 'how we burned down ceilometer (and lived?) (and died?)'14:36
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cdent"we burn this down. now you burn that down."14:38
cdentburnination as a service14:38
cdentyunogabbi!?14:39
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: [WIP] Spike at making the pollsters send notifications  https://review.openstack.org/19886514:43
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/gnocchi: ceph: make the driver asynchronous  https://review.openstack.org/19914015:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/aodh: Update the requirements  https://review.openstack.org/19895015:21
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add 'event' type and 'event_rule' to alarm API  https://review.openstack.org/19537615:34
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Exclude event type from targets of alarm evaluator  https://review.openstack.org/19915715:41
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add evaluator for event alarm (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/19916115:47
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add event alarm evaluation service (WIP)  https://review.openstack.org/19916715:51
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openstackgerritRyota MIBU proposed openstack/ceilometer: Exclude event type from targets of alarm evaluator  https://review.openstack.org/19915716:03
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to event list  https://review.openstack.org/19682716:36
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to resource list  https://review.openstack.org/19842716:36
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to meter list  https://review.openstack.org/19881816:36
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to complex query list  https://review.openstack.org/19918016:36
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for sending polled meters to notification agent  https://review.openstack.org/19228616:54
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Implementation of dynamically reloadable pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/19084218:13
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Implementation of dynamically reloadable pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/19084218:21
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: add mandatory limit value to complex query list  https://review.openstack.org/19918019:13
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pradgordc, mind taking a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197633/ again20:25
pradgordc, i left the tests in for now, we can discuss whether to keep/drop them in the test session20:26
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gordcprad: do you intend on supporting configurable metadata?20:39
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pradgordc, not part of this patch.. but i'm open to adding it as a subsequent one20:41
gordcprad: cool cool. added comments.20:49
gordcprad: tbh, most of my issues are with tests.lol20:49
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pradgordc, understand21:03
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: highly distributed coordinated notifications  https://review.openstack.org/19933122:34
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