Thursday, 2015-06-04

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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Handle database failures on api startup  https://review.openstack.org/18465500:35
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rjaiswalgordc: updated https://review.openstack.org/184655 with feedback.00:44
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rjaiswalplease review when you get a chance00:50
gordcrjaiswal: cool cool. just eating some dinner. will take a look later.00:50
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rjaiswalThanks gordc, take your time,00:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: WSME version >=0.7 correctly returns a 405  https://review.openstack.org/18764904:26
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Handle database failures on api startup  https://review.openstack.org/18465505:00
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Stop using TZ unaware datetime and isotime()  https://review.openstack.org/18487509:05
dikonoorjd__ : Hi ..I am looking for some info on gnocchi - influx. I believe the support has not been implemented yet and is planned for 1.1 ? I see these https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+spec/influxdb-driver , https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103329/09:15
jd__dikonoor: yes09:21
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dikonoorjd__:ok.Thanks. So as of now , it's just swift/pandas , ceph and default file system storages09:23
jd__dikonoor: yep09:25
dikonoorjd__ : ok..Thanks09:25
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Remove iso8601 dependency  https://review.openstack.org/18564209:41
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cdentcan somebody pop this through: without it local tox runs won't work across all the targets: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/187694/10:31
cdent(I'd do it myself but that would be BREAKING THE RULES)10:31
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idegtiarov_gordc, cdent: hi! What do you think about landing that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178162/10:33
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cdentjd__ is on the case idegtiarov_10:43
* jd__ a.ka. "Hannibal Smith"10:44
cdentmore like hannibal lecter10:45
idegtiarov_jd__, thanks a lot!!!10:45
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cdentjd__: do we still want pypy as a tox target for gnocchi?10:47
openstackgerritAleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add complex query for statistic requests  https://review.openstack.org/18833310:48
jd__cdent: it never worked pecause numpy isn't available :(10:48
cdentyeah, thus my question, shall I pull it out?10:48
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jd__cdent: yup10:51
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove pypy tox target  https://review.openstack.org/18833510:51
openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Stop using TZ unaware datetime and isotime()  https://review.openstack.org/18487510:51
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idegtiarov_cdent, gordon let you be an api master and address to you question do we need pagination in ceilometer for resources, events samples? I mean do we need to make an efforts for adding pagination?10:52
cdentnot in v210:52
cdentat least that's what I think10:53
idegtiarov_cdent, now we have two patches first add pagination https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171062/ second removes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185408/10:53
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cdentI'm pretty much with jd__ on this one: It never landed so we should clean it out, especially as we're not really planning to add new features to v2 (as far as I can tell)10:54
jd__I'm with cdent and with jd on this… wait10:55
* cdent watches jd__ faded away recursively10:55
cdentgordc's not awake yet10:57
cdentslacker10:57
idegtiarov_cdent, got it! what about v3? Do we need pagination in gnocchi? And what about events?10:57
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jd__we might need pagination in Gnocchi, but I'm glad if we don't need it too10:58
cdentI can provide an opinion on that stuff but not really a statement about what we _will_ do:10:58
cdentI think that we should not enable pagination as a signal to people that they should make more restricted queries10:59
cdentIf you choose to make gigantic queries, then you get gigantic data and suffer the related consequences10:59
* cdent is a bad person10:59
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idegtiarov_cdent,  you are really cruel with users you will made them suffer every second queries %))11:06
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cdentIf I were as cruel as I want to be I'd make it so that if a result set got over size X the response would be terminated and you'd get no data :)11:07
cdentjust a message that says: "ask better!"11:07
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idegtiarov_cdent, good idea :))11:10
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openstackgerritIlya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add running functional scripts for defined backend  https://review.openstack.org/18354711:18
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openstackgerritAleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add complex query for statistic requests  https://review.openstack.org/18833311:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: [unittests] Increase agent module unittests coverage  https://review.openstack.org/17816211:39
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ityaptincdent: Hi! When will you have a minute could you review the patches for ceilometer functional tests?  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184223/ - jenkins job, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183547/ - tox env improvement11:53
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cdentsure ityaptin, will do sometime this afternoon11:56
openstackgerritMerged openstack/gnocchi: Remove pypy tox target  https://review.openstack.org/18833512:01
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gordccdent: how dare you criticise my beauty sleep.12:48
cdentaw gordc you don't need beauty sleep, you already so pretty12:49
gordccdent: thanks dude. /me reels the line back in.12:49
gordcso i guess we've come to agree to remove pagination?12:50
cdentI'm not sure I'd call it agreement. More like the people who will always vote to remove stuff (me and jd__) did the expected and not many other people were around.12:51
cdentSo it would be fair to see if there's anyone else to ask12:51
gordccdent: hmm.. i'm just wondering if it's useful for events.13:01
gordccdent: maybe i'll post a message to list... i don't know who is using pagination to be honest.13:02
cdentthat seems a reasonable idea13:02
cdentout of curiosity why would it be more valuabe for events but not for meters?13:02
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gordccdent: not more valuable. more that the main argument for removing it is, to avoid working on 'classical' ceilometer meters since we're moving to gnocchi13:04
gordccdent: that doesn't apply for events13:04
cdentI still think the "if you require pagination you made a bad query" argument applies equally well to meters or events13:05
gordccdent: oh. i didn't read that argument.13:05
cdentthat was one of mine, somewhere in the backlog13:05
gordccdent: and yeah i agree, i think horizon or gui can enforce a sort of pagination by supporting easy queries on time ranges13:06
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cdent /me coffees13:08
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openstackgerritIlya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add running functional scripts for defined backend  https://review.openstack.org/18354713:29
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gordcjd__: you have stable powers in requirements?13:48
jd__gordc: dunnow, send the review?13:48
gordcjd__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186098/13:49
gordcsome oslo.messaging related thing... sileht ^?13:50
silehtgordc, yup I have added my tiny +113:52
gordcsileht: even better than my meaningly +1 on my own patch :)13:52
jd__gordc: +1 :(13:52
silehtahah:)13:53
gordcjd__: wah? i thought you had global power?13:53
cdentthe scales fall from gordc's eyes13:56
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18809013:57
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openstackgerritAleksey Ripinen proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add complex query for statistic requests  https://review.openstack.org/18833314:28
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rjaiswalgordc: wanted to check if you looked at this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/146080814:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1460808 in Ceilometer "Excluding an event in event_definitions doesnt prevent the event from being excluded" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3)14:31
gordcrjaiswal: yep14:32
gordcrjaiswal: i added a comment to your patch14:32
gordcrjaiswal: let me know if it doesn't make sense14:32
rjaiswalgordc: yeah, wanted to discuss on that14:33
rjaiswalso, how do we exclude certain evens then, do we need to use event_pipeline.yaml for that?14:33
rjaiswaland the !xyz in event_definitions has no meaning then14:34
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gordcrjaiswal: hmmm...14:35
gordcrjaiswal: i guess it can still be used for say you want a definition to be applied to a set of events ie. compute.instance.* but you want to skip it for just one. you can have compute.instance.* | !compute.instance.blah.blah14:37
gordcbut yeah, i think it's less useful.14:38
gordcrjaiswal: the thing is the filtering will always need to be done at pipeline level... so my reasoning is that we should avoid having filtering elsewhere.14:38
rjaiswalgordc: but the way it is now, it wont exclude compute.instance.blah.blah14:39
rjaiswalbecause of the catch-all14:40
gordcrjaiswal: right. it won't exclude it from having an event built but it would exclude it from having the definition being applied to it.14:40
rjaiswalif catch-all is disabled by enabling drop_unmatch_noti, then i think it works14:40
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rjaiswalgordc: ok, i see, so it would still build and event but not builf any traits for it14:41
rjaiswalgordc: ok, i see it now, so excluding in event_definitions will prevent the trait generation for that event14:43
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gordcrjaiswal: right.14:43
gordcrjaiswal: it's kinda weird logic... i don't know if there's a better way to handle it.14:44
rjaiswalgordc: yes, since there are 2 configurations to tweak14:44
rjaiswalgordc: thanks, the fix ad the bug probably dont make sense then14:46
gordcrjaiswal: cool cool. i think i should add the differences between the two in the docs... but if you have an idea to maybe make it more unified or simpler i'd be interested14:47
rjaiswalgordc: ok14:47
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rjaiswalgordc: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186962/, please take a look15:05
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gordcrjaiswal: sure. we're in the meeting if you want to join15:06
gordc#openstack-meeting15:06
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rjaiswalsure15:09
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/18809016:16
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pksingh__Hi, could you guys please review "Lower down the range for columns which are being used as uuid"   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183531/  thannks in advance :)16:31
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rjaiswalgordc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186962/ , other service events like glance and keystone also use id to describe the resource_id trait18:14
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gordcrjaiswal: replied in the patch.18:34
rjaiswalgordc: thanks, so then continue using id to describe resource_id?18:36
gordcrjaiswal: i think we should use resource_id when possible. keystone message id's aren't resource ids, they are event ids18:38
rjaiswalgordc: oh ok, will change that18:38
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Gerrit has been restarted to clear an issue with its event stream. Any change events between 17:25 and 18:38 UTC should be rechecked or have their approvals reapplied to initiate testing.18:41
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: add DNS events  https://review.openstack.org/18696218:50
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/17699819:41
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Declarative notification handling  https://review.openstack.org/17839921:03
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rjaiswalgordc: updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184655/ with feedback.22:13
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gordcrjaiswal: cool cool. +222:15
rjaiswalthx gordc22:15
openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Dynamic pipeline configuration using file reloading  https://review.openstack.org/18861322:24
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openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Dynamic pipeline configuration using file reloading  https://review.openstack.org/18861322:28
openstackgerritRohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Dynamic pipeline configuration using file reloading  https://review.openstack.org/18861322:30
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