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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Use Archive Policy Rule in create metric api https://review.openstack.org/173092 | 01:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Take place of metrics with meters in option and doc https://review.openstack.org/171913 | 01:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/gnocchi: Adds missed history param into IndexerDriver list_resource method https://review.openstack.org/173795 | 06:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Adds missed history param into IndexerDriver list_resource method https://review.openstack.org/173795 | 07:52 |
| jd__ | sileht: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170544/ does not work :( if you something else you want to try… | 07:52 |
| sileht | jd__, wierd I use same kind of trick for oslo.messaging | 07:53 |
| jd__ | sileht: typo? IDK :) | 07:53 |
| sileht | jd__, got it, you must use : DEVSTACK_LOCAL_CONFIG+=$'\nexport LIBS_FROM_GIT=oslo.db\nexport OSLODB_BRANCH=1.8.0' | 07:55 |
| sileht | jd__, this is a devstack flags, not a gate flags | 07:55 |
| jd__ | sileht: ok I'll update the patch! | 07:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: sqlalchemy: use RDBMS check constraint where available https://review.openstack.org/170544 | 07:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Add CLI for Capabilities REST API https://review.openstack.org/133324 | 08:20 |
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| jd__ | sileht: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173967/ ? | 08:27 |
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| sileht | jd__, I hate the dict interface for object | 08:28 |
| sileht | (to access attributes) | 08:29 |
| sileht | sometimes we use obj[attr], sometimes obj.attr ... | 08:30 |
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| jd__ | sileht: which objects? | 08:33 |
| sileht | jd__, the one that come from sqlalchemy | 08:33 |
| sileht | jd__, oslo.db add this interfaces | 08:33 |
| jd__ | sileht: I always used . never [] | 08:33 |
| jd__ | I don't think we rely on []? | 08:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: TEST: disable oslo.db dict interface https://review.openstack.org/174253 | 08:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: TEST: disable oslo.db dict interface https://review.openstack.org/174253 | 08:37 |
| sileht | jd__, most of the tests fail ^ | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: broadcast data to relevant queues only https://review.openstack.org/167826 | 09:01 |
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| jd__ | sileht: that's artefact in the tests of when we used to return dict | 09:47 |
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| jd__ | at least I hope :D | 09:47 |
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| sileht | jd__, yes clearly, but because of this interfaces we have missed them | 09:47 |
| jd__ | sileht: so can I cut the branch now? | 09:53 |
| sileht | jd__, looks good | 09:54 |
| jd__ | sileht: also still a fail https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170544/10/devstack/gate/gate_hook.sh though I might did something wrong? | 09:54 |
| jd__ | ok let's RTFM about doing branches in Gerrit lol | 09:54 |
| sileht | jd__, 1.8 is installed here: http://logs.openstack.org/44/170544/10/check/gate-gnocchi-dsvm-functional-file-mysql/377dc25/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-16_08_24_19_512 | 09:56 |
| sileht | jd__, but because we depends on ceilometer this is overriden here: http://logs.openstack.org/44/170544/10/check/gate-gnocchi-dsvm-functional-file-mysql/377dc25/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-16_08_25_07_733 | 09:56 |
| jd__ | sileht: yeah but requirements.txt not updated I guess ? | 09:56 |
| jd__ | argh | 09:57 |
| sileht | jd__, I have to go, but I wonder if with this capping stuffs we haven't broken something in gate in general | 09:58 |
| jd__ | sileht: oh yeah it's definitely a terrible idea… | 09:58 |
| sileht | jd__, I have gate jobs that use LIB_FROM_GIT, if that does work anymore ... | 09:58 |
| jd__ | sileht: see you later! | 09:58 |
| sileht | *doesn't* | 09:59 |
| sileht | bbl | 09:59 |
| jd__ | :( | 09:59 |
| openstackgerrit | liusheng proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add Mysql pagination for resource, meter and sample https://review.openstack.org/171062 | 10:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Return detailed metric info on create https://review.openstack.org/173967 | 12:10 |
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| sileht | jd__, for the oslo.db version we are stuck until https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173924/1 is merged, LIBS_FROM_GIT is broken since we have added cap to requirements | 12:38 |
| sileht | jd__, and once this review have been merged, we have to wait that everyone sync the requirements (ceilometer should be enought for us) ... | 12:40 |
| gordc | cdent: there's a ML item on wsme. since it's your favourite project... | 12:45 |
| cdent | oh cheers, thanks gordc | 12:46 |
| cdent | I do love it so | 12:46 |
| cdent | Ah yes, Lucas and I have talked about this in the past. | 12:47 |
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| gordc | cdent: yeah, it looks like he shares our thoughts... 'can we dump it?' | 12:47 |
| jd__ | sileht: :( | 12:48 |
| cdent | I'll shall give it a bit before piling on | 12:48 |
| cdent | I think a) kill it, kill it with fire! b) some cores probably ought to be added | 12:49 |
| cdent | but mostly KILL | 12:49 |
| gordc | lol | 12:50 |
| cdent | jd__: I forget did I mention this to you yesterday: https://github.com/cdent/gabbi/pull/30 it's related to what you were saying about making more of gabbi as a validation tool | 12:50 |
| jd__ | cdent: yeah I saw it, that's 👍 | 12:51 |
| gordc | man, i have to backport a lot of stuff to stable/kilo :( | 12:52 |
| cdent | cool, I was putting it off but then realized it would be handy for demo-ing and caved in | 12:52 |
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| gordc | sileht: do you know how to wrap exceptions in python? re: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173895/4/ceilometer/event/storage/impl_hbase.py,cm | 13:09 |
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| gordc | sileht: google says it's difficult: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/696047/re-raising-exceptions-with-a-different-type-and-message-preserving-existing-inf | 13:10 |
| sileht | gordc, let's remove the whole block, so :p | 13:11 |
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| gordc | sileht: :) i think i had that originally but i kept it so it would attempt to write all the events before failing. | 13:13 |
| gordc | sileht: although if you look at code, there's only ever one event. | 13:14 |
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| gordc | i'll leave it for now and add comment. | 13:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: cleanup problem events logic in event db storage https://review.openstack.org/173895 | 13:26 |
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| gordc | anyone have something they want in ceilometerclient master? i'm going to tag 1.1 against HEAD. | 13:32 |
| sileht | gordc, oh got it I have missing that sorry | 13:35 |
| gordc | sileht: no worries. | 13:35 |
| sileht | gordc, but we keep only the latest error now | 13:36 |
| gordc | jd__: for the gnocchi work, it doesn't solve the issue where derived samples (ie. cpu_util) get reset right? | 13:37 |
| sileht | gordc, anyway the most important thing is to raise something, so | 13:37 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah... that's a good point. so you think we should raise right away? i guess my reasoning was if we keep requeuing the same payload, it'll always fail at the same spot and not process the stuff after the bad event | 13:38 |
| jd__ | gordc: depends on what you want to do? | 13:39 |
| sileht | gordc, the requeue thing is in case mysql raise no connection in pool, or a connection timeout because the backend is busy | 13:39 |
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| jd__ | obviously it's the day you want to release you realize you don't have the right permissions | 13:40 |
| sileht | gordc, but yeah this is not very good, but we can't really do better I think | 13:40 |
| gordc | jd__: i'm just thinking of when we use cputime to compute util... the cputime we poll will still get reset so our util value will still be wrong the first sample after reset | 13:42 |
| gordc | jd__: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061631.html | 13:43 |
| gordc | i guess not a big issue. | 13:43 |
| gordc | sileht: i see.. i didn't realise it was just for connection issues. (although i guess that makes sense) | 13:44 |
| jd__ | gordc: again it depends on at you do and what kind of aggregation you use :) | 13:44 |
| gordc | sileht: there is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1434322 | 13:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1434322 in Ceilometer "Collector continuously re-queues sample when dispatcher reports persistent error when requeue is enabled" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Rohit Jaiswal (rohit-jaiswal-3) | 13:44 |
| jd__ | gordc: because I think for things like average() it does not make sense anyway so yeah it's broken but it's not a big deal | 13:45 |
| gordc | jd__: ah i see... so it'll really only be an issue if you have super granular policy, or when you are rolling stuff up (in certain cases) | 13:47 |
| sileht | gordc, yeah but how to != persistant error from connectivity error ? , and for the max_retries thing we must shared data between collector like the ticket explain | 13:47 |
| jd__ | gordc: yeah you can just use the last() aggregation mechanism to have the latest value for a period of X minutes of time and then handle the reset case yourself to do your computation | 13:48 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah... it's a non-trivial thing. and i don't know how often it happens in real life. | 13:48 |
| jd__ | gordc: the only thing we *might* be missing is the information that this is a metric that is measuring something that can reset | 13:48 |
| jd__ | gordc: this has to be in the client intelligence for now | 13:48 |
| gordc | jd__: agreed. want to track in low prio bug? | 13:49 |
| jd__ | gordc: sounds good, want to open one? :) | 13:50 |
| gordc | jd__: dang it. i see you have mastered the technique of deflecting | 13:50 |
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| jd__ | gordc: you'll have it after a year of PTLing | 13:57 |
| gordc | lol | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jiri Suchomel proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Ceilometer alarm-threshold-update should support updating project-id and user-id, but the update function was silently ignoring changes of these options. https://review.openstack.org/174400 | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: update README.rst to help release process https://review.openstack.org/174410 | 14:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: cleanup specs https://review.openstack.org/173906 | 14:43 |
| eglynn | cdent: just looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172427/1/specs/liberty/versioned-objects.rst | 14:44 |
| * eglynn is also struggling to see the applicability to ceilometer | 14:45 | |
| eglynn | (given that sql-a is effectively second tier, whereas mongo is effectively schema-free) | 14:45 |
| cdent | Yeah, eglynn, I was hoping the author would come back and say how it matters. | 14:48 |
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| cdent | Is it irony that meeting that just followed us is "large deployment team"? | 16:01 |
| gordc | cdent: stop reading into things | 16:01 |
| cdent | ICAN'THELPIT | 16:01 |
| * cdent has almost but not quite schizophrenia | 16:02 | |
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| rjaiswal | _nadya_, idegtiarov: Is multiple pipelines still an important use case for you - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171826/? | 16:02 |
| gordc | cdent: you should be worried when they stop arguing | 16:03 |
| gordc | "they" | 16:03 |
| _nadya_ | rjaiswal: yep, we've found some important use cases | 16:03 |
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| rjaiswal | _nadya_: can you elaborate and also review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171826/, ? | 16:04 |
| rjaiswal | please | 16:05 |
| _nadya_ | rjaiswal: will do it today | 16:06 |
| _nadya_ | rjaiswal: thanks for pointing | 16:06 |
| rjaiswal | __nadya__, great, thanks. it will be good to have your comments | 16:06 |
| cdent | gordc, I think enough "time" has passed to "respond" to that wsme thread | 16:07 |
| cdent | monty has had his piece | 16:07 |
| gordc | _nadya_: i think the big thing would be why a db | 16:08 |
| gordc | _nadya_: and why we need a public api... (ie. why do you edit config so often?) | 16:09 |
| gordc | cdent: are you jumping in? | 16:09 |
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| cdent | yup | 16:09 |
| gordc | cdent: "i tried to fix something... but the code made me crazy" | 16:09 |
| * cdent pulls on his waders | 16:10 | |
| idegtiarov | rjaiswal, are you going to change spec for "another that is based on the file-based pipeline"? | 16:10 |
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| rjaiswal | idegtiarov: eventually, if we dont get eough approval for the current spec | 16:11 |
| idegtiarov | rjaiswal, got it will take a look for spec today too | 16:11 |
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| rjaiswal | idegtiarov: so the point is wil the file-based approach be good for your requirement, ie multiple pipelines | 16:12 |
| rjaiswal | if not, then which one would you prefer | 16:12 |
| idegtiarov | rjaiswal, it seems to be easier in implementation but seems not flexible enough | 16:13 |
| rjaiswal | idegtiarov, yes assuming we go ahead with the file-based, your requirement is unmet and needs another spec for multiple pipelines | 16:14 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: I see your point :) I was against storing in db too | 16:14 |
| rjaiswal | idegtiarov and __nadya__: any suggestions for accomodating multiple pipelines are welcome. | 16:16 |
| gordc | _nadya_: yeah, i was ok with it initially on paper... but then i saw it in code and it started to scare me... but yeah i guess main point would be to present use cases as Tim Bell mentioned. | 16:16 |
| gordc | and then start small | 16:17 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: I like the idea about having some 'sync' tool for config files. Maybe even using Tooz | 16:17 |
| rjaiswal | __nadya, gordc: I agree, i covered it as Alternative 2 in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171826/ | 16:18 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: but still not sure. Maybe the first step should be having smth easier | 16:19 |
| _nadya_ | rjaiswal: cool, I will definitely take a look | 16:20 |
| gordc | rjaiswal: yep. i think that's the minimal approach. i asked the ops guy beside me, and Alternative 4 seemed like a good idea | 16:21 |
| gordc | he didn't really understand the api bit. | 16:21 |
| rjaiswal | gordc: seems like we are heading towards achieving reloading and mananging multiple configs without an api, then | 16:22 |
| gordc | rjaiswal: that's just my 2cents... i think my main worry was just security. | 16:24 |
| gordc | bbl. grabbing lunch | 16:24 |
| rjaiswal | gordc: sure, they have a point there | 16:25 |
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| ildikov | gordc: _nadya_: one thing regarding to store the pipeline config in db was to allow some more flexibility in the config, like based on projects as opposed to meters for instance not to talk about even more fine grained options | 16:40 |
| ildikov | gordc: _nadya_: but I will jump on the review and add my comments there as Rohit already quit | 16:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: cleanup problem events logic in event db storage https://review.openstack.org/173895 | 17:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: fix access to metric for owned resources https://review.openstack.org/174478 | 17:34 |
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| cdent | there ya go gordc, I added something to the session list, and started a related etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilo-multi-identity | 17:48 |
| gordc | cdent: i assume 'probably several' means 'weeks' and not 'slots' | 17:52 |
| cdent | oh sorry I completely misread that | 17:52 |
| cdent | I had gotten it in my head as "Requires a full spec" | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Hellmann proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Uncap library requirements for liberty https://review.openstack.org/174528 | 18:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: print user friendly error message for alarm update time constraints https://review.openstack.org/169774 | 18:24 |
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| ashishjain | Hello | 19:20 |
| ashishjain | Somehow I feel that there is an issue with ceilometer | 19:20 |
| ashishjain | Is ceilometer supposed to work only with nova driver | 19:21 |
| ashishjain | and not docker drivers? | 19:21 |
| ashishjain | for nova | 19:21 |
| gordc | ashishjain: docker driver as in an alternative hypervisor driver to kvm, hyper-v, etc...? | 19:27 |
| ashishjain | gordc: okay so basically it is just being used to create a virtual machine which enables you to run docker containers | 19:29 |
| ashishjain | gordc: But than in that case ceilometer should be able to get the stats. Because if I am not wrong ceilometer would be hypervisor agnostic | 19:30 |
| ashishjain | anything running on compute node should be traceable by ceilometer. please correct me if I am wrong | 19:31 |
| ashishjain | I am able to get all the stats when I run a plain vanilla VM when I use the libvirt driver | 19:32 |
| ashishjain | but once I switch to docker driver I do not see any stats in ceilometer | 19:32 |
| ashishjain | Does it require a config change somewhere, I don't think so. Please advice | 19:33 |
| gordc | ashishjain: sorry, was pulled into a meeting. | 19:45 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to clear a problem with its event stream. any gerrit changes updated or approved between 19:14 and 19:46 utc will need to be rechecked or have their approval reapplied for zuul to pick them up | 19:46 | |
| gordc | so the compute agent isn't actually hypvisor agnostic. we actually have different inspectors for libvirt/hyper-v/vmware/xen. | 19:46 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/tree/master/ceilometer/compute/virt | 19:47 |
| gordc | ashishjain: i'm not that familiar with the docker solution to be honest but if you're switching out libvirt for docker than i think we'd need to write another inspector to support that. | 19:47 |
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| gordc | ashishjain: unless there's a way to do this at another outside the compute nodes (against apologies but i'm not familiar with the docker solution). | 19:48 |
| ashishjain | gordc: thanks for your pointers and explanation on this. | 19:50 |
| ashishjain | gordc: Can you please point to an existing source code for other hypervisors I would want to see it and may be try something for docker | 19:50 |
| gordc | ashishjain: yep. so if you look at the github link above you can see each of the hypervisors we currently support | 19:51 |
| ashishjain | gordc: thanks I got it | 19:51 |
| gordc | ashishjain: np. the best way i find is just grab one of the hypervisors you know and copy the general format (exchanging calls as necessary). | 19:53 |
| gordc | if you get it working, it'd be great to have it upstream | 19:53 |
| ashishjain | gordc: thanks, can I touch base in the same irc channel for any help I may need while looking at the code | 19:54 |
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| gordc | ashishjain: sure thing. just a heads up, the majority of the ceilometer devs are based in Europe/Asia so you might get a better response during those hours | 19:56 |
| gordc | but there's a few of us around during Americas hours too... and night owls in europe. | 19:56 |
| ashishjain | ohh okay sure thanks for this gordc | 19:57 |
| * cdent hoots | 19:59 | |
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| gordc | cdent: :) i can sleep when you guys are awake right? that's the rule? | 20:01 |
| cdent | not any more | 20:02 |
| cdent | now that you are ptl sleep is not an option | 20:02 |
| gordc | bummer | 20:02 |
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