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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Take place of metrics with meters in option and doc https://review.openstack.org/171913 | 08:04 |
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| sileht | jd__, I still try to fix the docs issue (that not only a doc issue finally) | 08:34 |
| sileht | jd__, I will merge the history patch with the patch that use union for list_resources | 08:34 |
| sileht | jd__, the issue is due that the filter is constructed with the Resource orm object where revision_end is not an column | 08:35 |
| sileht | jd__, the union patch provides a 'Result' class for listing resources that can be used for Resource and History to create the filter and doesn't have the issue | 08:37 |
| sileht | jd__, that why yesterday I doesn't got the error locally, because I run tox on the whole branch not only the history patch | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: [MongoDB] Use a aggregate pipeline in statistics https://review.openstack.org/172340 | 08:44 |
| jd__ | sileht: 👍 | 08:46 |
| sileht | Why I didn't see this character ! | 08:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: Keep history of updated resource attributes https://review.openstack.org/168405 | 09:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: Implements ETag for resource https://review.openstack.org/171952 | 09:02 |
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| sileht | jd__, that should pass gate now ^^ | 09:10 |
| jd__ | sileht: cool | 09:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Transformers for events pipeline. https://review.openstack.org/162167 | 09:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Vadim Rovachev proposed openstack/ceilometer: Move all tests to different folders https://review.openstack.org/160827 | 09:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Move JSON encoding routing in its own module https://review.openstack.org/171616 | 10:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer: [MongoDB] Use a aggregate pipeline in statistics https://review.openstack.org/172340 | 10:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: limit alarm actions https://review.openstack.org/166154 | 10:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Fix a samples xfail test that now succeeds https://review.openstack.org/172035 | 11:00 |
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| jd__ | sileht: so now what we miss is the ability to search back in history | 11:40 |
| jd__ | it's so awesome | 11:41 |
| * jd__ excited | 11:41 | |
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| * cdent worries about jd__ | 11:42 | |
| jd__ | 'cause I'm all excited? | 11:43 |
| sileht | jd__: what do you mean ? | 11:43 |
| cdent | I'm wondering if we need to recalibrate your scale | 11:43 |
| jd__ | sileht: we miss an API call that allows a user to say "list me all the instances where flavor was small in Match" | 11:44 |
| jd__ | March* | 11:44 |
| sileht | jd__: we have that | 11:45 |
| jd__ | sileht: how? | 11:45 |
| cdent | yeah | 11:45 |
| jd__ | I missed something or my example is wrong :D | 11:45 |
| sileht | jd__: the exemple in the documentation show how | 11:46 |
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| jd__ | ah yeah I'm stupid | 11:47 |
| jd__ | obviously we have that | 11:47 |
| jd__ | so this is the best OpenStack project ever! | 11:47 |
| * jd__ coffee time | 11:47 | |
| cdent | It does seem quite, what's the word I'm looking for, tidy? | 11:47 |
| jd__ | man we even have ETag support, no project have that except Swift | 11:48 |
| jd__ | which is totally irrelevant since a lot of project don't need ETag for sure, but still :p | 11:48 |
| cdent | if you put a resource on the web it should have etags | 11:49 |
| sileht | jd__: we can use dogpile to cache etag | 11:49 |
| cdent | gnocchi is nicely different from the lot of the other apis because it seems to think of itself as a web citizen rather than just some way to get at some functionality | 11:50 |
| cdent | which is _great_ | 11:50 |
| jd__ | sileht: why not | 11:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Keep history of updated resource attributes https://review.openstack.org/168405 | 12:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed openstack/gnocchi: Documentation typo https://review.openstack.org/172400 | 12:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add support for ArchivePolicy Rule Endpoints https://review.openstack.org/171288 | 12:49 |
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| ildikov | gordc: hi | 13:15 |
| gordc | ildikov: hey, whatup? | 13:16 |
| ildikov | gordc: I think I already know the answer to my question, but wanted to double check with you | 13:16 |
| ildikov | I added the instance:<flavor> deprecation to the release notes | 13:17 |
| gordc | ildikov: cool cool. i was going to look at the release notes later today but thanks! | 13:18 |
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| ildikov | and I was wondering whether the ipmi meter renaming should go there too, but I guess we should wait in case of that while we have an end to end deprecation process, right? | 13:18 |
| ildikov | I mean the workaround for instance:<flavor> is already available, so it's fine | 13:18 |
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| ildikov | but we don't have workaround for the other case | 13:19 |
| ildikov | I know I overcomplicate it, I think the amount of docco work made some damage in my brain... :) | 13:20 |
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| gordc | yeah, i'm not exactly sure what we want to do with that... there have been a few times in past where we've wanted to change names but i don't think we ever ended up doing it. | 13:20 |
| ildikov | don't think either | 13:20 |
| gordc | i wonder if we should support something like multi-meter filtering. | 13:21 |
| ildikov | I planned to add a session proposal for these administrative things, like meter deprecation or storage back end stuff to secure some time to actually talk about these bit messy things | 13:21 |
| ildikov | yeap, probably, the issue is that in the deprecation phase in case of renamings we have two names to maintain for the same meter both in the pipeline and in the api queries | 13:23 |
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| ildikov | and well, if I query something I would like to get the response back with the name I queried for, etc. | 13:23 |
| ildikov | anyway, I don't add a deprecation note for that one, it's better figuring out first how to handle it | 13:24 |
| gordc | yeah i was thinking about that. i'm sort of wondering if we should be dictating meter names anymore. | 13:24 |
| gordc | eventually, the more and more services that are added, the more things people will want to meter... and i don't think the ceilometer team is large enough to know all these projects. | 13:25 |
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| ildikov | it's not our responsibility that what is the exact name | 13:25 |
| ildikov | but we need to be able to provide a list in order to give the users a chance to build their stuff on top of Ceilometer IMHO | 13:26 |
| ildikov | but as we speak I've just realized that we planned to turn off the collection of the event type meters in Liberty, so I will add a note about this option as it is available already in Kilo | 13:28 |
| gordc | ildikov: well i think from the polling aspect, it's our responsibility... we're creating the meters. but for example, there might be a bunch of meter-able things in ironic, but because i don't know it well enough, it isn't getting into ceilometer. | 13:28 |
| gordc | i'm wondering if it's better to have the services control the meters and ceilometer control the polled meters... just thinking a loud (this might not make sense) | 13:29 |
| ildikov | you mean let anything come in through notifications? | 13:29 |
| ildikov | from usability perspective it's problematic | 13:30 |
| gordc | ildikov: right. and we define a format, and if it fits said format, we build the meter, if not, nothing. | 13:30 |
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| ildikov | I mean everyone is pretty interested about integration, but it's not Ironic, who will finally use that data | 13:30 |
| ildikov | what would you write in the docco for instance? we meter Ironic and at the same time we introduced a new game for you, you need to find out yourself, what data you will have in your db? | 13:32 |
| ildikov | you cannot even control in the pipeline or anywhere what you want to measure and what not | 13:33 |
| cdent | ildikov: I think your modeling the problem in a way that is different from what ought to happen in "real" life: | 13:33 |
| gordc | sort of. or ironic would define it's list of meters. | 13:33 |
| ildikov | it's not predictable how fast your database will grow, etc. | 13:33 |
| cdent | we don't monitor ironic, we provide a tool for ironic to store some data that people can treat as meters | 13:33 |
| cdent | which data "flows" is up to "people" | 13:34 |
| gordc | you could still control everything in pipeline, you'd just need to see what ironic sends. | 13:34 |
| ildikov | cdent: I wrote meter and not monitor, but the base is the same, we are not developing a tool for Ironic people, but for everyone | 13:34 |
| ildikov | and where will I see what Ironic sends? | 13:35 |
| gordc | i'm just wondering if we could handle it similar to how we handle events... we have no idea what events the services emit, but we can still act on any when they come in. | 13:35 |
| ildikov | I will see only after deployment I guess and it will be up to the sensors | 13:35 |
| gordc | yeah, it's just a thought i had. i haven't really hashed out the entire flow. | 13:36 |
| ildikov | when we remove the event type samples I'm sure we will need more proper docco about what we accept currently, as for CADF, you're right, but it's for audit purposes, which is a different thing | 13:36 |
| cdent | ildikov: "developing a tool...for everyone" to do what? | 13:39 |
| gordc | ildikov: something to think about before summit i guess (i'm still waking up right now) | 13:39 |
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| ildikov | gordc: yeap, it's definitely something regarding to that blueprint proposal | 13:40 |
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| ildikov | cdent: officially to do this: https://github.com/openstack/governance/blob/master/reference/projects.yaml#L217 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/171395 | 13:48 |
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| cdent | ildikov: I lost my net connection so this didn't make it through: https://tank.peermore.com/_/8b863052-7e0d-48aa-9734-b12eca252c9b | 13:53 |
| ildikov | cdent: thanks | 13:53 |
| ildikov | as for defining better what we intend to do that sounds good to me | 13:54 |
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| ildikov | but I think we need to be able provide information about it to the user and let services name their meters does not seem to be inline with this, but we can elaborate this further on the summit as I think others have opinion too | 13:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Kamil Rykowski proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Use oslo-versioned-objects to deal with upgrades https://review.openstack.org/172427 | 13:56 |
| cdent | yeah, definitely something worth having a full on in person discussion about | 13:56 |
| cdent | i gotta kill my network again | 13:57 |
| cdent | biab | 13:57 |
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| ildikov | cdent: this topic will eat up a full slot I guess, but surely better in person than here | 14:10 |
| cdent | I think the specific topic of "naming stuff" probably will quickly degrade to "what are we doing", which is a chat we need to have... | 14:11 |
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| ildikov | I agree on the need to have, but if we manage to agree on something less flufy than we have now it will be even harder to keep it I'm afraid | 14:13 |
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| ildikov | but you can ask eglynn how many times I almost cried in his ears via IRC or in person about the single responsibility and what we are doing stuff or if you check the review, which resulted in that mission statement, you will see how much it's not that easy as it may sound... | 14:14 |
| ildikov | I need to run to a meeting, the best way of closing a Friday... | 14:15 |
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| cdent | me too ildikov, friday meetings--! | 14:18 |
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| rjaiswal | Hi, calls for review for https://review.openstack.org/171826 | 15:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Cosmetic changes for system architecture docs https://review.openstack.org/172006 | 15:20 |
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| rjaiswal | Hi Folks, It will be great to get some more feedback on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack/?searchtext=ceilometer-configuration-via-data-store and the spec: https://review.openstack.org/171826. Appreciate your time and feedback.. | 15:41 |
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| cdent | argh WSME! https://bugs.launchpad.net/wsme/+bug/1442710 | 17:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1442710 in WSME "Protocol selection fails on POST when REST is enabled" [Undecided,New] | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: pipeline configuration via data store https://review.openstack.org/171826 | 22:28 |
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