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| gzhai1 | ildikov_:hi | 07:41 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: hi | 07:42 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_:Fro my patch, the *.temperature is renamed to *.inlet_temperature | 07:43 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_:Is "rename" or "removed" section more proper? | 07:43 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: there is an outlet_temperature too | 07:45 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: so it does not seem to me to be a simple renaming, but correct me if I'm wrong | 07:45 |
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| kodoku | Hi, Is it possible to enable ssl for ceilometer's api ? | 07:49 |
| kodoku | because I don't find anything in my config file or in logs when I restart ceilometer. | 07:49 |
| kodoku | I'am on Juno | 07:49 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: originaly only *.temperature, which is inlet temperature for the server in fact. Then new spec introduce outlet_temperature, so original .temperature rename to inlet_temperature. | 07:50 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: a-ha, ok got it | 07:54 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: remove is also okay, just like a diff file: remove old and add new. | 07:57 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: in this case one option is a "renamed" table, but there should be a "from" "to" column or something which makes it clear that what was changed | 07:57 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: the other option is a note or warning that one of the meters was renamed | 07:57 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: how do you mean that remove? | 07:58 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: Is it okay to add note to inlet_temperature like "previously known as *.temperature" without remove section | 07:58 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: I mean adding "removed section" | 07:59 |
| kodoku | So, anyone ? | 08:01 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: /me is thinking :) | 08:03 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: :) | 08:05 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: what about a section in the table as "Meters renamed in Kilo" and we add two columns with the old name and the new one? | 08:05 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: I was just wondering if we add a note then it will work for now, but if we will have more from these renames then it will be hard to read after a while | 08:07 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: so I think we should somehow include this information in the tables | 08:09 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: fair enough. So no temperature except in the "renamed" section. | 08:10 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: Let me try if different columns can be in one table. | 08:11 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: one additional thing, the temperature meter should be kept in the Juno section | 08:16 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: as those, whoc use Juno right now will see that meter | 08:16 |
| * eglynn is loving the recent usability improvements in gerrit | 08:16 | |
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| eglynn | ... see "clippy" on https://review.openstack.org | 08:17 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: also keep the new one in the Kilo section and try to add this rename section at the bottom and we will see how it looks | 08:17 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: BTW, to change the metrics to meters in telemetry scope, admin-guide and other docs like arch-design need changes. So one big commit or one commit each doc? | 08:17 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: I assume kilo can use both kilo and juno. So it's confusing. | 08:18 |
| * ildikov_ hates that the Admin guide is not versioned by releases... | 08:18 | |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: I did not get your last sentence | 08:18 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: Assmue rename is not normal. kilo enduer think you can use meters in both juno and kilo. | 08:20 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: yeap, rename is not normal, that is why I mentioned the deprecation stuff | 08:20 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: I don't really like this, I will add an item to the tomorrow' agenda to discuss this briefly | 08:21 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: So you think *temperature in Juno is not confusing? | 08:21 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: it is already in Juno, this change wasn't backported there | 08:22 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: got it. will do it. Thanks! | 08:22 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: the Admin guide section captures the first stage, when a new group of meters were added and then we document the changes as the expectation is mostly that the list will grow as opposed to shrink or renamings, etc. | 08:23 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: the base issue is that the admin guide is not versioned, there is one latest and all the changes should be included there, which causes inconvenience | 08:24 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: I already raised this to the docco team, but there is no out of the box solution for this issue at the moment :( | 08:25 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: Can't agree you more. Need Doc version. | 08:25 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: haha, it's super cute :) | 08:25 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: BTW, to change the metrics to meters in telemetry scope, admin-guide and other docs like arch-design need changes. So one big commit or one commit each doc? | 08:25 |
| eglynn | ildikov_: both cute *and* productivity-enhancing ;) | 08:26 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: I assume different people would review different doc. | 08:26 |
| ildikov_ | gzhai1: by arch-design you mean the developer docs, or the different sections in the Admin guide chapter? | 08:26 |
| ildikov_ | eglynn: LOL :), for sure, I acted like a child, when I saw clippy :) | 08:27 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: not developer doc. different dirs in openstack-manuals like install-guide, arch-design and admin-guild | 08:32 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: They are separated doc, I believe. | 08:32 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: a-ha, ok, I think these should be separate commits | 08:36 |
| gzhai1 | ildikov_: Got it. Thanks! | 08:46 |
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| ildikov_ | gzhai1: /me thanks for the docco work! :) | 08:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: Add list of resources types URL on /v1/resource https://review.openstack.org/169294 | 09:06 |
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| links | hi , for meters seen as cumulative , how can i change or add it as delta also ? For example network.incoming.bytes . I tried to add new sink but didnt help . | 09:35 |
| links | oops , sorry . my bad . its working . didnt set the timestamp right . | 09:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Add timeout for keystoneclient session https://review.openstack.org/169194 | 11:17 |
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| eglynn | jd__: looks like the ceilo track at summit will be allocated 2 fishbowl sessions, 8 working sessions, 1 half-day contributor meetup | 11:32 |
| eglynn | (we had 6 sessions, plus a full day contrib meeting in paris) | 11:33 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... given that we'll be sharing that allocation with gnocchi (as previously discussed), sounds sufficient to you? | 11:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/gnocchi: indexer: return resource objects rather than dict https://review.openstack.org/169302 | 11:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed openstack/gnocchi: indexer: return resource objects rather than dict https://review.openstack.org/169302 | 11:44 |
| cdent | jd__ you cool with me editing your commit messages live in gerrit? | 11:44 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: reset croniter to avoid cur time shift https://review.openstack.org/169713 | 11:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: use oslo.log instead of oslo-incubator code https://review.openstack.org/147810 | 12:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed openstack/ceilometer-specs: Enable Liberty specs https://review.openstack.org/168321 | 12:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: Add list of resources types URL on /v1/resource https://review.openstack.org/169294 | 12:37 |
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| jd__ | cdent: if it's just before merge yes | 12:55 |
| jd__ | cdent: otherwise I might erase it :( | 12:55 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yup sounds largely enough to me | 12:56 |
| cdent | noted | 12:56 |
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| eglynn | jd__: coolness | 12:59 |
| sileht | jd__, I have updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168405/ | 13:04 |
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| jd__ | sileht: I'll check that! | 13:13 |
| sileht | jd__, the patch have still a issue 'search' return all revisions, and nothing permits to filter that | 13:17 |
| jd__ | ok, not a problem yet | 13:18 |
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| sileht | jd__, finally that's ok for search, I have just remarked, that list and search share the same indexer code :) | 13:20 |
| cdent | sileht: so this is the part that has me sad (and confused): "Also, 'select' then 'insert (with some value from previous) (in two statements) is not safe even within one transaction." | 13:21 |
| cdent | It's as if the concept of transactions has been lying to me all this time. | 13:22 |
| sileht | cdent, that depends of your primary setup, most of the time that works well | 13:22 |
| sileht | cdent, but for us the resource_id is no more the primary key | 13:23 |
| sileht | cdent, that why "SELECT .. FOR UPDATE", 'INSERT INTO .. FROM SELECT' exists | 13:24 |
| sileht | cdent, to lock the table or row when needed | 13:24 |
| sileht | cdent, because transaction can protect everything | 13:25 |
| sileht | can/can't | 13:25 |
| cdent | Okay, the part I was missing was the impact of the not-primary key | 13:25 |
| cdent | which presumably means the db can't reliably know which rows to lock | 13:26 |
| sileht | cdent, and because the new primary key is autoincrement | 13:26 |
| cdent | gotchya | 13:26 |
| sileht | cdent, so mysql/psql always get a new key | 13:26 |
| sileht | cdent, yep | 13:26 |
| cdent | locking the whole table is kind of a bummer, but I guess volume of resource changes is not a huge concern (compared to volume of measurement writes) | 13:27 |
| sileht | cdent, yes | 13:28 |
| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: gerrit has been restarted to restore event streaming. any change events missed by zuul (between 12:48 and 13:28 utc) will need to be rechecked or have new approval votes set | 13:28 | |
| cdent | thanks | 13:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: Add list of resources types URL on /v1/resource https://review.openstack.org/169294 | 13:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: print user friendly error message for alarm update time constraints https://review.openstack.org/169774 | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: print user friendly error message for alarm update time constraints https://review.openstack.org/169774 | 14:29 |
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| kaliya | hello, after some benchmark tests, I noticed that the memory consumption of the ceilometer-agent-compute process increases continously. Is this safe? Are there some open cases related to this? TIA | 14:48 |
| cdent | kaliya: is it similar to this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1369836 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1369836 in Ceilometer "potential memory leak in compute agent" [Low,Incomplete] - Assigned to gordon chung (chungg) | 14:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Divya K Konoor proposed openstack/ceilometer: Adds support for default rule in ceilometer policy.json. https://review.openstack.org/167370 | 14:59 |
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| kaliya | cdent: seems so, ty | 15:16 |
| cdent | are you using kilo or something earlier kaliya ? | 15:17 |
| kaliya | cdent: icehouse | 15:17 |
| kaliya | seems that rss increased by nearly 500% | 15:17 |
| cdent | Yeah, things have changed a _lot_ since then. In Kilo all the various polling agents are in one agent that supports the idea of namespaces | 15:18 |
| cdent | ouch! | 15:18 |
| gordc | kaliya: i think that's what i had too... i wasn't able to reproduce it again but that said, i didn't know how i got it in icehouse. | 15:18 |
| kaliya | gordc: seems hard to reproduce always. I ran some Rally scenarios for several hours | 15:19 |
| gordc | yeah, i did something similar as well... ran rapid polling for serveral hours but couldn't get it consistently | 15:21 |
| kaliya | in production, is this some harmful trouble, or do the processes got ceiled to the memory? | 15:22 |
| gordc | kaliya: depends i guess... when i tried it, it would occasionally free up the memory. but it's python so you have no idea when it'll do it. | 15:23 |
| kaliya | maybe I have to file some bug (but Icehouse...) what do you think gordc cdent | 15:24 |
| gordc | kaliya: we can track it on that bug... if you can add more info to it that'd be great. | 15:25 |
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| kaliya | gordc: doing, ty | 15:29 |
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| jd__ | sileht: so I've been chatting with my bearded friend about our revision system | 15:34 |
| jd__ | sileht: the main thing he proposed was possibly to split the table to have an history table | 15:34 |
| jd__ | he also emphasized that we need a DATERANGE column and he's right but we can't have that in MySQL | 15:34 |
| jd__ | fuck I hate MySQL seriously | 15:35 |
| jd__ | sileht: there's DateRange in sqlalchemy-utils though | 15:37 |
| kaliya | gordc: do you want to analyze some logs also maybe? | 15:38 |
| sileht | jd__, you think about a table with "datarange, resource_id, key, value" ? | 15:39 |
| jd__ | sileht: well ultimately yes as we can add checks in PG to be sure there's no overlaping daterange with a GIST index | 15:39 |
| jd__ | sileht: I'm just dreaming there I know | 15:39 |
| sileht | jd__, with a table with key, value, we lost the type of the data | 15:40 |
| jd__ | though the idea would have to just add a historic table and when we insert we insert in both table, then when we update we just update the main table and insert in the historique table, updating the range | 15:40 |
| jd__ | sileht: no no key value | 15:40 |
| jd__ | just the standard table copied | 15:40 |
| jd__ | if you wish | 15:40 |
| jd__ | we would have instance and instance_history | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed openstack/gnocchi: rest: Add list of resources types URL on /v1/resource https://review.openstack.org/169294 | 15:41 |
| jd__ | the upside is that it's very fast to retrieve the current version of the instance | 15:41 |
| jd__ | as we just have to look into instance | 15:41 |
| sileht | jd__, yeah insert into the history will not lock the main table | 15:42 |
| jd__ | so that might be worth it, I think it depends on which use cases we want to optimize | 15:42 |
| sileht | jd__, for resource I think we want to optimize read not write | 15:42 |
| jd__ | sileht: I think so too | 15:43 |
| jd__ | sileht: want to hangout a bit? | 15:43 |
| sileht | jd__, yep | 15:43 |
| jd__ | sileht: usual place | 15:44 |
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| gordc | kaliya: sure. you can attach them (i won't have time to look until next week) | 15:53 |
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| kaliya | gordc: ceilometer-all.log, is all? | 16:00 |
| gordc | kaliya: tbh, i'm not sure the ceilometer logs will help. we need to profile it and recreate the scenario. | 16:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: rest: Add list of resources types URL on /v1/resource https://review.openstack.org/169294 | 16:52 |
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| edmondsw | eglynn, gordc, Jenkins passed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/167370/ with the changes we discussed yesterday | 17:04 |
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| cdent | EmilienM: but then I wouldn't get to feel the frisson of want to kill. | 17:12 |
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| eglynn | edmondsw: thank you sir! | 17:20 |
| edmondsw | eglynn, np... give it a quick review and we can get this merged :) | 17:22 |
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