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| j_t | https://github.com/paypal/cloudminion | 05:53 |
| j_t | I was looking at this project, we wanted a VM reaper.. to wipe out 'unused VMs', which can be an aribtrary definition. | 05:54 |
| j_t | Though I'd like whatever janitor process we have in our openstack system to be integrated with our openstack system. | 05:54 |
| j_t | Is ceilometer going to be involved at all with a janitor process for openstack? | 05:54 |
| j_t | Is there anywhere I can read about 'the plan' for janitor systems in openstack? | 05:55 |
| j_t | Can ceilometer be integrated with openstack-congress? and nodes get deleted through nova if they violate the congress policy | 06:07 |
| j_t | or what is a good janitor system to use in openstack | 06:07 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/152402 | 06:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Remove no_resource hack for IPMI pollster https://review.openstack.org/151599 | 09:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Zhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Enabling self-disabled pollster https://review.openstack.org/146303 | 09:15 |
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| IvanBerezovskiy | cdent, Hi :) | 13:58 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | cdent, can we use smth like http://paste.openstack.org/show/166817/ in puppets? | 13:58 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | cdent, I can't find better way to pass namespaces to ceilometer config, if some of namespaces are undef | 13:59 |
| cdent | I'm not sure, do you have a preference EmilienM ? | 13:59 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | EmilienM, ^ | 13:59 |
| eglynn | gzhai1: hey | 14:00 |
| IvanBerezovskiy | EmilienM, can you help me with my question above, please? | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | cdent: IvanBerezovskiy: /me looking | 14:01 |
| EmilienM | ouch, this is ugly | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | but it should work :) | 14:02 |
| EmilienM | let me a bit of time to remind the context and maybe find something | 14:03 |
| cdent | Is there a more reasonable way? | 14:03 |
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| IvanBerezovskiy | EmilienM, thanks you. I tried to find better way, but I failed :( | 14:05 |
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| cdent | eglynn: a) feeling any better b) Do you happen to know if the api-site wadl files are made with a tool (that inspects code) or by hand? | 14:19 |
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| eglynn | cdent: still sick as a dog :( | 14:20 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... do you mean the http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-telemetry-v2.html etc.? | 14:21 |
| cdent | sorry to hear that, sorry for the dog too | 14:21 |
| eglynn | LOL :) | 14:21 |
| cdent | yeah, that stuff | 14:21 |
| cdent | is generated from this: https://github.com/openstack/api-site/blob/master/api-ref/src/wadls/telemetry-api/src/v2/os-telemetry-api-2.0.wadl | 14:21 |
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| cdent | but I'm wondering what generates that wadl | 14:21 |
| cdent | (or who) | 14:22 |
| eglynn | cdent: TBH I don't know how that stuff is generated these days, whether staticly maintained by a human (I hope not!) or generated by tooling | 14:22 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... annegentle obviously would know | 14:22 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... or Andreas Jaager if she's not on-line yet | 14:22 |
| cdent | I'll see if I can locate her, thanks. | 14:22 |
| eglynn | cdent: try #openstack-doc | 14:23 |
| cdent | thanks | 14:23 |
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| claudiub | DinaBelova: hello | 14:46 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometermiddleware: add options to configure messaging https://review.openstack.org/152273 | 15:33 |
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| fabiog | idegtiarov: ping | 16:32 |
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| gordc | DinaBelova: sileht: _nadya_: ildikov: anyone want a free review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152972/ if not, i'm just going to +A myself assuming it passes so i can make a release. | 16:53 |
| sileht | gordc, huge change ;) | 16:53 |
| fabiog | gordc: I gave the best I could ... +1 :-) | 16:53 |
| gordc | lol thanks. | 16:54 |
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| fabiog | DinaBelova: sileht: _nadya_: ildikov: gordc: eglynn: please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142592/ | 16:57 |
| fabiog | all the pipeline related code is now inside the pipeline package | 16:58 |
| eglynn | fabiog: there's a lot of red in the CI report, do those failures look kosher? | 17:00 |
| fabiog | eglynn: rohit is looking at it right now, I am interested in see if there are major issues with the approach. | 17:01 |
| eglynn | cool | 17:01 |
| fabiog | eglynn: we moved pipeline.py in the pipeline package because I think it makes sense now that we have a pipeline package, would you agree? | 17:01 |
| gordc | fabiog: is this related to this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128411/7/specs/kilo/notification_filter.rst? | 17:02 |
| eglynn | sure, that aspec seems reasonable | 17:02 |
| eglynn | *aspect | 17:03 |
| fabiog | gordc: once we have a datastore for the pipeline and an API we can think about making the polling and notifications separate | 17:03 |
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| fabiog | gordc: I don't think is good not to be able to avoid polling or notifications because some meters can be obtain in both ways | 17:04 |
| gordc | fabiog: good to hear... i was asking because the link for schema shows otherwise: http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/6816275 | 17:04 |
| fabiog | gordc: you will get duplicated data | 17:04 |
| _nadya_ | fabiog: will do today | 17:05 |
| gordc | fabiog: not exactly duplicate... just extra data... did you consider the last comment i made regarding providing different pipeline files to notification and polling? | 17:06 |
| gordc | the reason i suggested it was becasue when i first saw phil's schema it was really complex for something that can be solved today. | 17:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Romain Soufflet proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Add swift middleware entry point https://review.openstack.org/152984 | 17:07 |
| fabiog | gordc: I didn't work on the spec lately because I am now trying to get the datastore in first | 17:08 |
| fabiog | gordc: I would really like to split the pipeline into pipelines. We now have event, I would recommend to have polling and notification pipelines | 17:09 |
| fabiog | gordc: and these can be stored in the same tables where the only difference is that sources have a polling interval or not | 17:10 |
| gordc | fabiog: yeah i get your point... it's just that after i saw phil's patch, it became more complex than i imagined... we can continue to discuss. | 17:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/148626 | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometer: add elasticsearch events db https://review.openstack.org/137131 | 17:21 |
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| eglynn | folks: I'm gonna pull the trigger on kilo-2 shortly, now that the elasticsearch patch has landed | 17:27 |
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| fabiog | _nadya_: thanks | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged stackforge/gnocchi: indexer: store aggregation methods in archive policies https://review.openstack.org/147114 | 17:45 |
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| j_t | Can ceilometer be used as a VM reaper process? I'm trying to find a good way to reclaim 'unused VMs' in our environment, and that being an arbitrary definition. | 18:14 |
| gordc | j_t: lol that's an awesome name. | 18:18 |
| gordc | j_t: if you pair ceilometer with heat, it might accomplish what you're hoping for. | 18:19 |
| gordc | http://techs.enovance.com/5991/autoscaling-with-heat-and-ceilometer | 18:19 |
| cdent | might also be able to pull it off with a simple webhook? | 18:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ceilometermiddleware: add README template https://review.openstack.org/152972 | 18:24 |
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| gordc | eglynn: i'm not allowed to release ceilometermiddleware (says prohibited by gerrit when i run oslo-release) so you'll need to release it. | 18:49 |
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| fabiog | gordc: quick question | 19:00 |
| gordc | fabiog: sure. | 19:01 |
| fabiog | gordc: can you please point me to the code where you can add a parameter to the ceilo conf? | 19:02 |
| fabiog | gordc: we need to add a specific driver for the pipeline since this is not optional or linked to the other database choices | 19:02 |
| gordc | fabiog: adding a new option to conf? | 19:03 |
| fabiog | gordc: something along the line of a pipeline_connection inside the [database] section of the conf | 19:03 |
| fabiog | gordc: yes | 19:03 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/fc7e78134458b39a07af163396aa4e43602202ae/ceilometer/data_processing/notifications.py#L23-L30 | 19:03 |
| gordc | https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/storage/__init__.py#L42-L70 | 19:04 |
| gordc | like that? ^ | 19:04 |
| fabiog | gordc: and this will generate a default option in the conf? Because tempest will need it to correctly set ceilometer up | 19:04 |
| fabiog | gordc: we actually did that, but we need a default string to be in the conf | 19:05 |
| gordc | fabiog: well it will use the default you define if it's not in conf. | 19:05 |
| fabiog | gordc: so you are saying not to use None in the default but actually the connection string value? | 19:05 |
| gordc | fabiog: if you want to have real text in the conf file you will need to add it to devstack specifically | 19:05 |
| gordc | fabiog: right... assuming the default you want is generic | 19:06 |
| gordc | fabiog: alternatively you can set the value here: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/lib/ceilometer#L179-L181 | 19:06 |
| gordc | not there specifically but in that file... and in a similar format | 19:07 |
| fabiog | gordc: but this is a devstack change | 19:08 |
| gordc | fabiog: right. | 19:08 |
| fabiog | gordc: I will go with the default to sql and then maybe we will have a concurrent patch to address this. My understanding is that if the param is not set in the conf it will use the default | 19:09 |
| fabiog | gordc: so when the devstack patch is in, then it will override the default and we can move the default back to None. Does it make sense to you? | 19:10 |
| gordc | fabiog: sure. i take it None means don't us db base pipeline? | 19:11 |
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| fabiog | gordc: well if there was a value in the conf that would be overridden. You have to provide a database for the pipeline since now is decoupled from the other dbs | 19:12 |
| gordc | fabiog: so it is mandatory to have pipeline in db? | 19:14 |
| gordc | fabiog: there's no way to continue as is? ie. just static conf files? | 19:14 |
| fabiog | gordc: well it will be, but the test are failing in devstack just for the db patch | 19:15 |
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| fabiog | gordc: let me check if we can do this with the patch | 19:17 |
| fabiog | gordc: thanks for the pointers | 19:17 |
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| gordc | fabiog: the spec says the current file based configuration should continue to work... this is still true right? | 19:19 |
| fabiog | gordc: yes, it will. | 19:20 |
| fabiog | gordc: there will be a param to select if you want to load it in the db or not | 19:20 |
| gordc | fabiog: ok, cool cool. so db is not mandatory. i just wanted to make sure that was still true. | 19:21 |
| fabiog | gordc: yes it that part will be in the "services" patch, Central Agent and Notification Agent | 19:21 |
| gordc | cool cool. hopefully i'll get a chance to look at it tomorrow | 19:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rohit Jaiswal proposed openstack/ceilometer: Storage Layer Implementation for Pipeline Configuration https://review.openstack.org/142592 | 20:32 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: hi | 20:34 |
| fabiog | ildikov: hi | 20:35 |
| ildikov | fabiog: is the patch ready for review that you linked earlier? | 20:35 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I mean this one just proposed by Rohit ^^^ | 20:37 |
| fabiog | ildikov: we did some changes to fix the build in tempest, it is building now, but feel free to check that there isn't anything major | 20:37 |
| ildikov | fabiog: it kinda looks half ready, and I haven't checked even a half of it yet | 20:38 |
| ildikov | fabiog: it looks a bit odd to have storage drivers with only __init__ ready or not much more, but maybe I don't get the point here | 20:40 |
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| fabiog | ildikov: we are going to implement the sql only solution, so for the other we just provided a stub | 20:42 |
| fabiog | ildikov: others can add implementations for MongoDB or HBase if they want | 20:43 |
| ildikov | fabiog: wouldn't there be enough the NotImplemented error? | 20:44 |
| fabiog | ildikov: we needed the methods for some of the unit tests | 20:44 |
| ildikov | fabiog: it's just did not make much sense to me this way and makes the patch even bigger, which does not help in reviewing | 20:45 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: unit tests can be controlled to run against specific DBs and not all the available types | 20:45 |
| fabiog | ildikov: we moved the pipeline.py file in the pipeline package since now we have one, and that triggered the changes in the tests. I think in the future is beneficial to have all the pipeline related code inside the pipeline package | 20:46 |
| ildikov | fabiog: hmm, I still don't get it 100%, why it needs those stubs | 20:47 |
| ildikov | fabiog: do you mean that the same db is used for pipeline, which is used in general in case of testing? | 20:48 |
| ildikov | fabiog: sorry for the dumb questions, I haven't slept much this week :( | 20:48 |
| fabiog | ildikov: now we have a different db for pipeline, so you can have sql for pipeline and MongoDB for samples | 20:48 |
| fabiog | ildikov: we are just implementing sql, but the tests are generalized for all the dbs so we are creating those stubs | 20:49 |
| fabiog | ildikov: hope makes sense | 20:49 |
| ildikov | fabiog: then I still don't get why you needs those stubs for unit tests | 20:49 |
| fabiog | ildikov: there are two things: 1) moving pipeline.py created a lot of changes in all the tests that used that file, 2) having a separate database means that you need to have the basic impl for all the databases since the tests are now run with all of them | 20:50 |
| ildikov | fabiog: you mean the tests that are using pipelines without any kind of mocking? | 20:51 |
| fabiog | ildikov: no we had to change the mockings because of the refactoring of the pipeline.py file | 20:52 |
| fabiog | ildikov: you should see that all the code changes in the tests are related to that re-factoring | 20:53 |
| fabiog | ildikov: changing the location of a file usually does this .. :-) | 20:53 |
| ildikov | fabiog: yes, I got the renaming of the imports and mocking | 20:54 |
| fabiog | ildikov: we may move that file back. it will shorten the patch ... | 20:54 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I just don't get the stubs | 20:54 |
| fabiog | ildikov: events and alarms have the same strategy | 20:55 |
| ildikov | fabiog: it's not about the placement of the file | 20:55 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I mean files | 20:55 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I kinda feel that we are talking about two different things now :) | 20:56 |
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| fabiog | ildikov: ok. Event and Alarms have been moved form the unified storage to the separate storage | 20:56 |
| fabiog | ildikov: if you look at these are very similar to what we have done | 20:56 |
| fabiog | ildikov: you need the upgrade and clear to prepare and get rid of the sql tables | 20:57 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: I just don't get why db2 and other storage stuff is needed | 20:58 |
| ildikov | fabiog: I thought you mean that the tests are using it, but now I'm lost | 20:59 |
| fabiog | ildikov: please comment in the patch, I want Rohit to be able to respond. My understanding is that unit tests are across databases and they will fail if you don't have at least a stab for the various db | 21:00 |
| ildikov | fabiog: well, I think it's better if i have some rest, check the whole patch and add my questions and concerns as review comments | 21:00 |
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| ildikov | fabiog: ok, that's exactly what I meant and we are also on the same page regarding the next step, so thanks :) | 21:01 |
| ildikov | fabiog: sorry that it took so long, I wanted to be sure that I get the intention, so I can have a better insight when reviewing | 21:01 |
| ildikov | fabiog: so thanks much for your time here | 21:02 |
| ildikov | fabiog: sorry if I looked a bit impatient or smth like, it really was not an intention, I'm just too tired | 21:03 |
| gordc | go to sleep | 21:03 |
| fabiog | ildikov: no apologies, you have valid concerns, get some rest and we can talk about it tomorrow | 21:03 |
| gordc | problem solved... pay on the way out | 21:04 |
| ildikov | gordc: will do :) | 21:04 |
| gordc | :) | 21:04 |
| ildikov | fabiog: cool, thanks, sounds good :) | 21:05 |
| ildikov | gordc: fabiog: have a nice afternoon/evening :) | 21:05 |
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| gordc | clarkb: you around? /apologies i have no idea what timezone you're in. | 22:44 |
| clarkb | sort of not in front of a computer this moment | 22:45 |
| gordc | clarkb: cool cool. nm then. i'll give you a shout tomorrow. wanted to run elasticsearch stuff by you but i'm pretty sure i'm doing it wrong. | 22:47 |
| clarkb | I think it came up in -infra because no trusty packages yet (I thought they existed) | 22:47 |
| * gordc hadn't checked... i'll try looking at that. | 22:49 | |
| gordc | clarkb: hmm guess not... i'll try finding another way to test it. thanks for inpu | 22:51 |
| gordc | input* | 22:51 |
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