Monday, 2015-01-12

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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: support time to live on event database  https://review.openstack.org/14636702:41
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: support time to live on event database  https://review.openstack.org/14636703:09
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openstackgerritZhi Yan Liu proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add an exchange for Zaqar in profiler notification plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14135504:59
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openstackgerritZhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use right function to create extension list for agent test  https://review.openstack.org/14637305:32
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: upgrade hacking to version 0.10.0  https://review.openstack.org/14637505:49
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable pep8 e123 rule  https://review.openstack.org/14637606:04
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable pep8 h238 rule  https://review.openstack.org/14637706:04
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable pep8 rule h501  https://review.openstack.org/14637806:04
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable pep8 rule w292  https://review.openstack.org/14637906:05
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14602106:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14616407:58
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openstackgerritZhai, Edwin proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use right function to create extension list for agent test  https://review.openstack.org/14637308:38
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Initial statsd daemon implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14611709:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer-specs: Adds spec for Hyper-V disk IOPS metrics  https://review.openstack.org/14278009:49
openstackgerritCan ZHANG proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Fix ceilometer dispacher to conform to the new name  https://review.openstack.org/14640610:09
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Update hacking to global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14641510:56
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Fix H105 pep8 error  https://review.openstack.org/14641610:56
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Allow all pep8 checks  https://review.openstack.org/14641710:56
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Use oslo_utils instead of deprecated oslo.utils  https://review.openstack.org/14642011:11
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use oslo_config instead of deprecated oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/14642111:25
openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use oslo_db instead of deprecated oslo.db  https://review.openstack.org/14642411:28
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher  https://review.openstack.org/14614211:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/14004911:33
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: Initial statsd daemon implementation  https://review.openstack.org/14611711:43
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed stackforge/gnocchi: tests: fix AP retrieval  https://review.openstack.org/14642611:43
openstackgerritLena Novokshonova proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Triple double-quoted strings should be used for docstrings  https://review.openstack.org/14642711:45
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable oslo namespace check for ceilometer project  https://review.openstack.org/14643512:09
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable oslo namespace check for ceilometer project  https://review.openstack.org/14643512:10
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: switch to oslo_i18n  https://review.openstack.org/14644012:17
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Match the meter names for network services  https://review.openstack.org/14596312:18
openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: switch to oslo_serialization  https://review.openstack.org/14644412:25
IvanBerezovskiycdent, Hi. Can I ask You about redis? How to pass backend_url to ceilometer conf if we have multi host redis?12:28
cdentHi IvanBerezovskiy12:28
cdentat the moment it only works in one of two ways:12:28
cdentYou can either tell it the host name of a redis server, just one12:29
cdentor you can tell it the host name of a one sentinel server (which is watching multiple redis servers)12:29
cdentright this very minute I'm working on code to configuring multiple redis sentinels12:29
cdent(for the coordination url)12:29
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IvanBerezovskiybut if I tell one sentinel server and it breaks, do we lost connection with redis?12:31
cdentyes, thus the current changes I'm working on right now12:31
cdenthowever, the sentinel server is less likely to die than the redis server itself12:31
cdentand up until very recently, there was no sentinel at all12:32
cdentso it is moving in the right direcdtion, just not all the way thereyet12:32
IvanBerezovskiycdent, thank you. I got it. These changes for multiple sentinels are very important12:35
* cdent nods12:35
EmilienMcdent: so HAproxy+tcp checks make sense to have HA ?12:35
cdentthey were always in the works, IvanBerezovskiy, just proceeding in an incremental fashion12:36
cdentEmilienM: wut?12:36
EmilienMcdent: if my sentinel goes wrong, it can't monitor anymore other redis, right?12:36
cdentIn the current code the failure modes are as follows:12:37
EmilienMcdent: so my question is, can I use HAproxy + TCP checks on Sentinel listening port to load-balance requests to multiple sentinel ?12:37
cdentIf the redis master goes down, the sentinels will see it and nominate a new master and the ceilo coordination will keep going12:37
cdenthowever, if the redis master goes down _and_ the primary sentinel goes down, there will be complete failure (as there's no way to find out the new master)12:38
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cdentif the primary sentinel goes down, but the redis master is still up, as long as the coordination processes are still running (and thus have awareness of the redis master) things will still work12:38
cdentWith the changes that I'm doing right now, there will be multiple sentinels12:38
EmilienMcdent: I see.12:38
EmilienMcdent: for kilo?12:38
cdentthe driving force of the changes today are my employers efforts for their packaging of juno...12:39
EmilienMcdent: ok. Great.12:39
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cdenta ha-proxy in front of sentinel would probably work too, but better to just have mulitple sentinels12:40
IvanBerezovskiycdent, can you show your draft changes or can you provide some estimates on that, please?12:40
cdentabout 2 hours before I have the review pushed up12:40
cdent(on tooz)12:40
cdentonce a new tooz is released then raw ceilometer will be able to "just do it"12:40
cdentinstallers like packstatck etc will need some additional time12:41
DinaBelovacdent, cool :) so we need to ping jd__ to ask for the new release when your change will be landed :)12:41
cdentya12:41
IvanBerezovskiythis change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144999/ ?12:42
cdentthat's the previous change IvanBerezovskiy, which supports just one sentinel12:42
cdentthe forthcoming change supports multiples12:42
IvanBerezovskiycdent, ah ok, cool12:43
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DinaBelovajd__, ping :)13:21
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DinaBelovajd__, may you please 'pong' me when you'll be able to have some follow-up discussion on what's I've started on Friday? I have kind of more things I'd love to understand :)13:27
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed openstack/ceilometer: Use oslo_config instead of deprecated oslo.config  https://review.openstack.org/14642113:36
cdentIvanBerezovskiy, DinaBelova, jd__, eglynn: multiple sentinel support in tooz: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146463/13:36
DinaBelovacdent, thank you sir :)13:36
cdentsir is my father ;)13:36
DinaBelovacdent :D13:37
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IvanBerezovskiycdent, thanks13:48
jd__DinaBelova: pong13:59
DinaBelovajd__ - I see you’ve posted the example of query we may process now: /v1/resource/instance/{filters}/{metric_name}?stop=(now - 7 minutes in ISO format)13:59
DinaBelovajd__, is that NamedMetricController and AggregatedMetric thing responsible for processing this?14:00
DinaBelovajd__, I was wondering if we can think about the following: currently when we’re asking for this cross-metric query, we need to ask list of resources -> list of metrics from indexer to process this.14:00
DinaBelovaIs that possible to kind of invert logic of query processing here (when we have named-metric thing, basically) and just pass the request directly to the storage driver?14:00
DinaBelovaI’m thinking about it, because InfluxDB and OpenTSDB can process requests like this efficiently without additional indexer calling (if they are provided with the metric_name and the fields used in filters).14:01
DinaBelovaWe may set list of fields to be stored in storage additionally in the conf file and and make storage driver itself decide if it can process the query without indexer or not.14:02
jd__DinaBelova: yes Named and AggMetric are responsible14:09
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jd__DinaBelova: that's basically using the storage as an indexer; I'm ok with that but that's probably not the first use case I would address14:11
DinaBelovajd__, that's not fully indexer, I whould say...14:11
DinaBelovathe information stored in indexer is important itself14:11
DinaBelovaas we may ask about exact resource, etc.14:11
jd__if you can store all attributes of a resource in the metric storage and query for it, that's it14:12
DinaBelovajd__, my idea was not to store all the attributes - but only the ones, that are mostly used in concrete cloud installation14:13
jd__that sounds half-baked14:13
DinaBelovabecause storing all of them in TSDBs is not efficient14:13
jd__best thing would be to be able to merge <indexer request>+<storage request> in <storage request>14:14
DinaBelovabut may make queries faster in case of some relatively small list of super-important ones14:14
jd__if you are able to do that you do not need the indexer anymore for OpenTSDB/InfluxDB14:14
jd__but anyway a first step can be to do that for simple cases14:15
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jd__though for now the gnocchi.rest module does not know how to do that14:15
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DinaBelovajd__, may I start to experiment a little bit with it and ask for your feedback on the review?14:15
jd__DinaBelova: sure thing14:15
DinaBelovajd__, cool :)14:16
DinaBelovajd__, also I’d love to ensure I understood you right - are you ok with linking the metric_name with archive policy (probably, as a optional thing)?14:16
jd__DinaBelova: yes, how do you see this implemented?14:16
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DinaBelovajd__, I would say I see simple solutions as a permanent thing - like let's have the archive policies stored in one table, meter_names - to - AP table and metrics themselves linked with meter_names14:20
DinaBelovaif we want to do that in configurable way14:20
DinaBelovathat's kind of a tricky thing - I need to go deeper to the gnocchi code to answer this quesiton14:21
jd__ok fair enough14:21
DinaBelovajd__, and one more moment14:21
DinaBelovasomething about queries processing. Just using your example: /v1/resource/instance/server_group=foobar/cpu_util?stop=(now - 7 minutes in ISO format)14:21
DinaBelovajd__, let’s imagine we’re having archive policy that aggregates some metric data once in 5 mins.14:22
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DinaBelovaLet's assume that for now we’ve aggregated 2 times, and it’s 1st minute running of current 5-min period14:22
DinaBelovaand we’re asking for the 7 minutes backward14:22
DinaBelovaAs we do not use raw data in query processing, we are not able to process this query with 100% precise - we’ll eat all first 5-min period as well for this query, not the last minute from it - that we actually need.14:22
DinaBelovajd__, I see only one way to have better precise here14:23
DinaBelovajd__, are you ok, if I’ll try to implement something like raw-data usage in case if back_window is set to something more than 0?14:23
jd__I think raw data usage is OK only if it matches the full time period asked, now?14:23
jd__s/now/no/14:23
DinaBelovaIt won’t be possible for all aggregation functions, but in case if we’re storing additional count parameter, it’ll be possible to split this query and ask separately for the timeslot we’re having precise aggregated data for, and combine this info with the raw data were we can to.14:23
DinaBelovajd__ - it won't be possible to pass easilly mean and deviation14:24
DinaBelovabut all other ones - easilly14:24
jd__as long as the results are OK, I don't mind14:24
DinaBelovajd__, cool14:24
jd__you'll have to argue with sileht and eglynn about the mathematic validity, not me ;)14:24
DinaBelovajd__, hehe, yeah, I need to think a little bit more about this concept14:25
DinaBelovajd__, well, ok, thank you so much for yuor time!14:26
DinaBelovait was actually really helpful14:26
jd__cool :)14:27
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused pecan configuration options  https://review.openstack.org/14628514:58
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher  https://review.openstack.org/14614215:12
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/ceilometer: support time to live on event database  https://review.openstack.org/14636715:37
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fabiogeoghan, ildikov: ping16:12
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fabiogeglynn: ping16:13
ildikovfabiog: hi16:17
fabiogildikov: have you booked travel for the mid-sprint?16:20
ildikovfabiog: actually yes16:20
fabiogildikov: I did and if it is not going to happen it would be better to cancel it to avoid further penalities16:20
ildikovfabiog: so I hope you don't ask because of cancelling16:21
fabiogildikov: I am good to have it, but eglynn was arguing that we do not have a quorum16:21
fabiogeglynn: are you there?16:21
ildikovfabiog: well, I don't know about jd__ for instance if he comes or not16:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Catch exception when evaluate single alarm  https://review.openstack.org/14577116:22
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: in a meeting, gimme 2 mins16:22
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Add an exchange for Zaqar in profiler notification plugin  https://review.openstack.org/14135516:22
fabiogildikov: I thought that jd__ would go since there are a lot of topics related to Gnocchi, but I guess it is a budget problem16:22
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fabiogeglynn: sure np16:22
ildikovfabiog: TBH we have some new restrictions as for travelling and it wouldn't be fortunate to cancel a trip, which was not that easy to get approved... :S16:23
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: sorry folks for the lack of responsiveness, so here's the story ...16:23
eglynn... as discussed on Thursday's meeting, we agreed a quorum of 516:23
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eglynn... so I reached out to all the folks who previously indicated some interest in attending16:24
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ildikoveglynn: a-ha, I didn't remember to the exact number16:24
eglynn... I was gonna give it til EoD today for all email responses16:24
eglynn... but I don't think I'll get any more +1s, and only -1s so far :(16:25
eglynn... so it's not looking good TBH, only 3 attendees16:25
fabiogeglynn: I was expecting jd__ to go, it is budget or interest problem :-)16:25
fabiogeglynn: he gave availability for both places ...16:26
eglynnfabiog: he now doesn't think its necessary, so decided himself not to travel16:26
ildikoveglynn: so what now?16:26
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eglynnTBH I don't think it makes sense to go ahead without the main gnocchi contributors involved16:27
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ildikoveglynn: yeap, I got your point16:27
eglynnIIUC the Cisco guys who were interested won't be able to get approval with so few other attendees confirmed16:28
fabiogeglynn: that's a pity ... it would have been a good opportunity to expand the contributors to the Gnocchi project16:28
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eglynnfabiog: yep, I agree ... but unfortunately if attendees don't sign up, there's not much we can do about it :(16:29
eglynnfabiog: ... can you cancel travel without penalty?16:29
fabiogeglynn: no I cannot16:29
fabiogeglynn: flights have been already booked and tickets bought. I am international and I had to buy at least few weeks in advance, otherwise it would have cost an arm and a leg ...16:30
ildikoveglynn: me neither16:30
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ildikoveglynn: well, my ticket is cheaper at least than fabiog's...16:31
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: that's very unfortunate, I'm not happy about pulling the plug on it either16:31
fabiogeglynn: if you feel confident on representing Gnocchi we could keep it and shortening it.... Having a sort of arch and planning meeting16:32
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: ... but I don't see much point in doing the meetup with just 316:32
fabiogeglynn: I think we have a lack of vision on how Gnocchi would evolve and how it will be integrated/consolidated with Ceilometer16:33
fabiogeglynn: and if that has not been fully sorted out it could be a good thing to discuss16:33
fabiogeglynn: what do you think?16:33
eglynnfabiog: sorry, still on the meeting, gimme a few mins16:35
ildikovfabiog: eglynn: I'm open to have those discussions we have topics for16:35
ildikoveglynn: how much time do you need?16:35
ildikoveglynn: just asking because of I'm thinking of going home, so I would be back online in 15 mins16:36
ildikoveglynn: fabiog: would that work for you to continue in 10-15 mins?16:36
eglynnildikov: yeah, should be in better shape in 15mins16:38
fabiogeglynn: sure16:38
openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher  https://review.openstack.org/14614216:38
ildikoveglynn: fabiog: cool, thanks16:38
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eglynnildikov, fabiog: k,  back16:44
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eglynnfabiog: let's wait for ildikov to rejoin16:45
fabiogeglynn: ok16:46
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cdentgordc: you about?16:56
cdentsee my last comment on : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143103/ ?16:56
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gordccdent: looking now16:59
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ildikovfabiog: eglynn: hey, I'm back17:00
gordccdent: is the comment that you don't think it's a good idea anymore or more that you don't really need it anymore and it's not really priority?17:01
cdentI guess the comment is: I can't decide.17:01
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eglynnildikov: hey17:02
cdentBecause of the direct publisher, it is now useful for it to exist, because it means the testing I want to do of things like the api can get away without an MQ17:02
cdentbut in order to use the direct publisher, it needs the pipeline17:02
cdentso therefore,  may as well not get rid of it...17:02
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eglynnfabiog, ildikov: so my take on this is that without a reasonable quorum of contributors actually involved in the main focus of kilo (i.e. gnocchi integration) then not much that could be acheived with meeting F2F17:04
gordccdent: ah i see... i guess you're trying to test end to end path and having it separate requires you to test across multiple services...17:05
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: it's really unfortunate, and I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news ... but the numbers don't really stack up with just 3 people prepared to travel17:05
cdentgordc, yeah17:06
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gordccdent: i'm sort of wondering if you need to verify that it actually makes it to db? or is that the whole point of gabbi?17:06
cdentgordc, so while architecturally I think pipeline in api server is bad news, pragmatically it is handy17:06
fabiogeglynn: so it is cancelled then or you want to wait until tomorrow?17:06
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cdentgabbi _only_ does api requests, so in order to validate, stuff has to make it to storage, so that another query can be made (that's kind of the point of gabbi: just http)17:07
ildikoveglynn: ok, got it17:07
eglynnfabiog: I doubt that I will get anymore positive responses TBH ... but if you'd prefer to wait til tmrw before being definitive, that's fine17:07
cdentso, gordc,  unless there is a compelling other reason (than my intial "ew ick") I may as well abaondon the spec17:08
fabiogeglynn: it won't make a difference for me (in terms of financial impact)17:08
gordccdent: yeah i guess it expands your scope relating to gabbi work.17:08
fabiogildikov: if there are any benefits for you to cancel now, please go ahead and let me know17:08
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ildikovfabiog: the plane tickets are non-refundable...17:09
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gordccdent: i still sorta like that idea so maybe just keep it open and take your name off spec.17:09
fabiogildikov: ok, we are in the same boat17:09
ildikovfabiog: and it as booked by the company, so at this moment I can't do anything, but if I could, it wouldn't matter either17:09
fabiogeglynn: let's wait tomorrow and give a final status17:10
ildikovfabiog: it *was*17:10
fabiogeglynn: I will ping you tomorrow morning17:10
fabiogmy morning :-)17:10
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ildikovfabiog: eglynn: I'm fine with tomorrow as official, just let me know the result17:10
eglynnfabiog, ildikov: cool, thanks folks!17:11
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cdentthanks gordc17:12
fabiogeglynn and ildikov talk to you tomorrow then. Ciao17:13
ildikovfabiog: yeap, talk tomorrow17:13
gordccdent: if i get time maybe i'll try to make it work after your gabbi stuff.17:15
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cdenteglynn, gordc: is there a good person to push to get a global requirements update: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146319/17:27
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gordccdent: maybe jd or dhellmann (throwing them under the bus)...17:29
eglynncdent: dhellmann has +2-ability on requirements, as does sdague and ttx17:29
gordcbbl lunch17:29
cdentthanks17:30
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher  https://review.openstack.org/14614218:02
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed openstack/ceilometer: Expose alarm severity as an optional field in Alarm Model  https://review.openstack.org/14284918:25
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nealph___cdent: quick question for you on the direct publisher...18:42
cdentyessir18:42
nealph___is your thought to have this be a viable end-user feature, or just something for testing? In other words, is there a use case outside of what you're currently doing with it?18:44
* nealph___ ponders...18:44
cdentI want it just for testing, but conversations with gordc have indicated that he may want it for testing, and maybe for something else too (that is, he was planning to build one too, but I beat him to it)18:44
gordcnealph___: i was going to add one to keep events working as is after i implemented event pipeline (it currently writes straight to db rather than use collector)18:47
nealph___cool, cool. Yeah, gordc, I'm mostly asking due to the doc implications...18:48
gordcnealph___: cool cool. i mean it probably doesn't make sense to use it for a good chunk of scenarios but it's an option i guess.18:49
nealph___I have a niggling concern that deployers will not grasp all the implication of *not* passing it to the sample pipeline, but perhaps that's a bit paranoid.18:50
nealph___or, passing it to the "direct" dispatcher and  the sample pipeline, both.18:51
nealph___but it's nothing that documentation couldn't smooth over. :)18:52
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dhellmanncdent, eglynn, gordc: does gabbi overlap with any of the other tools in the requirements list so far?19:02
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cdentdhellmann: not that I've been abe to find, based on conversation with sdague I'm posting to the dev list about it to get some discussion going aboutit19:02
dhellmanncdent: ok, I'll follow up with any other questions on the list19:03
cdentcool, thanks19:03
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cdentdhellmann: it's posted19:20
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dhellmanncdent: looks good -- are you planning to talk to the qa team about adopting it for maintenance? or oslo? or are you going to keep it standalone?20:01
dhellmanncdent: any of those is obviously fine, I'm just curious20:01
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cdentdhellmann: I haven't made any plans along those lines, I guess it depends on what people want/need.20:14
dhellmanncdent: ok. I'm sure either group would be happy to host it if it means being able to share release duties for emergencies, etc.20:15
* cdent nods20:16
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cdentI avoid stackforge for the initial development because Overhead™20:16
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cdent(s/avoid/avoided/) but now that it is approaching useful and stable it might makes some sense to share the load20:17
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mriedemadam_g: moving here per https://jenkins07.openstack.org/job/gate-ceilometer-python26/1258/console20:21
dhellmanncdent: yeah, I did the same thing with stevedore and cliff20:22
adam_gmriedem, hmm is that a run from https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146623/?20:22
mriedemadam_g: yeah20:22
mriedemwas watching zuul20:22
adam_gmriedem, that looks maybe unrelated?20:23
mriedemi'm gonna wait for the nicer console log output when jenkins finishes20:23
mriedemand check logstash for the error when it does20:23
cdentgonna walk, and them come back and answer mail20:23
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adam_gmriedem, yeah, these dont look related to the oslo_utils things: http://logs.openstack.org/23/146623/1/check/gate-ceilometer-python26/fbcbe64/21:17
adam_gmriedem, well, at least not related to timeutils21:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/14602121:24
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adam_gmriedem, okay this should work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146623/2/ceilometer/tests/test_bin.py21:29
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: enable event pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/14665722:08
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed openstack/ceilometer: Add a direct to database publisher  https://review.openstack.org/14614222:34
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed openstack/ceilometer: notification agent missing CONF option  https://review.openstack.org/14666722:38
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