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| harlowja | eglynn-ofice-afk ok, hopefully https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131533/ all good, damn py33 old version of redis and stuff, lol | 01:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Igor Degtiarov proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Improve manual.rst file https://review.openstack.org/131374 | 08:24 |
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| eglynn | jd__: good morning! | 09:23 |
| eglynn | jd__: the TC has finally made their picks in the cross-project track and the notifications schema session made the cut | 09:23 |
| eglynn | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics | 09:23 |
| eglynn | jd__: so the question is whether we also need a ceilometer-specific session on this topic? | 09:24 |
| eglynn | jd__: ... or whether we could re-purpose that slot, and use for say llu's topics? | 09:24 |
| ildikov | eglynn: good morning | 09:26 |
| eglynn | ildikov: mornin'! | 09:27 |
| ildikov | eglynn: it's good news that this topic has made the cut | 09:27 |
| eglynn | ildikov: yep, a better chance that the stakeholders on the emitter side will be around for the session | 09:28 |
| eglynn | (i.e. the nova/cinder/neutron/etc folks) | 09:28 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I mentioned you ages ago how good it would be to have smth like, I hope we will have some progress finally on this topic | 09:29 |
| ildikov | eglynn: how do you mean the ceilo-specific session? | 09:30 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: http://kilodesignsummit.sched.org/event/37fd5b42fe76c0721033d592c5097d76#.VFCzuYpziVo | 09:30 |
| ildikov | eglynn: to influence the others on the emitter side or to discuss the outcome of this session? | 09:30 |
| ildikov | eglynn: is this the one proposed by Chris? | 09:32 |
| eglynn | ildikov: well, the point was that we'd already decided to have a session on this on the ceilometer track before the TC decided to also include a similar session on the cross-project track | 09:32 |
| eglynn | ildikov: (the TC only finalized that track yesterday) | 09:32 |
| ildikov | eglynn: yeap, I got it finally :) | 09:32 |
| ildikov | eglynn: will the TC one be held before ours or after? | 09:32 |
| eglynn | ildikov: the cross-project sessions are all on the tuesday, so before the ceilo track | 09:33 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I was just wondering that we could still use at least the half of our slot to discuss the conclusions of the TC track | 09:34 |
| ildikov | eglynn: if it makes sense | 09:34 |
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| eglynn | yeah it may well make sense to do both ... jd__ is leading that sesssion, so let's see what he thinks | 09:36 |
| ildikov | eglynn: ok, sure | 09:40 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: who's leading the TC one? | 09:45 |
| ildikov | eglynn: and also tnx for the info :) | 09:45 |
| eglynn | jd__: no one specific slated yet, likely candidates would be you and sandy? | 09:45 |
| * eglynn prolly shouldn't have called it the "TC track" ... the TC pick the sessions, but the track is cross-project | 09:46 | |
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| eglynn | jd__: russell mentioned he was looking for a session leader at the project/release status meeting last night | 09:47 |
| jd__ | eglynn: ha. :) | 09:48 |
| eglynn | ... is that a happy "ha | 09:48 |
| eglynn | "? | 09:48 |
| jd__ | eglynn: no I'm half happy to do it half sad that there's no other leader in that area | 09:49 |
| jd__ | but I'm ok to lead it I'm sure you'll all back me up ;) | 09:50 |
| jd__ | I need to through cdent note too | 09:50 |
| eglynn | jd__: excellent, thank you sir! :) | 09:50 |
| eglynn | jd__: so on the question of repurposing the ceilometer notification session on the thurs ... useful to have both that and the cross-project session, d'ya reckon? | 09:51 |
| eglynn | (I'm cool with keeping it on the ceilo track too, if that makes sense) | 09:51 |
| ildikov | jd__: I'm a great fan of this topic, so if there's anything I can help, let me know | 09:52 |
| jd__ | eglynn: I think it might depends on the order of the talks? | 09:53 |
| jd__ | eglynn: like is the cross-project one before and we can then use the Ceilometer's one to discuss details? | 09:53 |
| eglynn | jd__: cross project session is first, on the Tuesday ... then ceilo session second, on the Thursday | 09:54 |
| jd__ | eglynn: so that could be a plan, to use our session to lay out a plan of actions and details (not sure we could cover that in the TC) | 09:54 |
| eglynn | jd__: yep, cool enough, let's keep the ceilo session in place so to further discuss the details | 09:54 |
| jd__ | or we could also just drop it and stick to the one cross project session | 09:54 |
| jd__ | we can also change at the last minute I guess (or maybe not?) | 09:55 |
| eglynn | well changes are just about possible, but frowned upon at this late stage (as folks have started planned their schedules) | 09:56 |
| eglynn | so if we can use the time profitably in both sessions, I'd be happy enough to stick to the plan | 09:56 |
| eglynn | jd__: I'll be guided by your preference on this one | 09:57 |
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| eglynn | jd__: in other news, I'll be back annoying you to cut another tooz release once this redis fix lands ... https://review.openstack.org/131533 | 10:07 |
| jd__ | eglynn: sure | 10:08 |
| eglynn | jd__: cool, thanks! | 10:08 |
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| cdent | Does tooz needs to be updated in global requirements? | 11:14 |
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| eglynn-office | cdent: version lower bound should wait until 0.9.0 IMO | 11:28 |
| cdent | make sense | 11:30 |
| cdent | is updating requirements a two step process: once in ceilo and once in requirements? | 11:30 |
| cdent | or does ceilo get updated automagically? | 11:30 |
| eglynn | cdent: we update global requirements first, then there's a requirements bot to propogate | 11:33 |
| cdent | thanks | 11:34 |
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| cdent | DinaBelova: hmmph | 11:54 |
| DinaBelova | cdent :D | 11:54 |
| cdent | We seem to have a problem :) | 11:54 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, I was waiting you :D | 11:54 |
| DinaBelova | well, yeah.. | 11:54 |
| DinaBelova | speaking about new keystone and sahara notitficaitons | 11:55 |
| DinaBelova | in ceilo code | 11:55 |
| DinaBelova | we are having more and more problems actually | 11:55 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent, it looks like nobody except ceilo team is interested in finding the solution of smth-queue-smth testing | 11:56 |
| * cdent nods | 11:56 | |
| DinaBelova | cdent, and also I'm kind of sure nova/glance/etc. are not interested in adding this flushing-api as well | 11:56 |
| cdent | It's weird, because I would think everyone would want to be dropping things on the queue. | 11:56 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, indeed! | 11:56 |
| cdent | It's a very useful mechanism for distributed systems. | 11:57 |
| DinaBelova | as it's 'more light-weighted then api calling' | 11:57 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent, it looks like we need 3rd party CI :D | 11:57 |
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| DinaBelova | I would say it's a good idea for me to find Sean on summit after we'll discuss this thing inside ceilo team | 11:59 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, it's sad you're not going on the summit... | 11:59 |
| cdent | There are only so many dollars in the corporate bank, apparently... | 11:59 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent :D | 12:01 |
| cdent | biab | 12:01 |
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| sileht | jd__, for the gnocchi gate issue this is bug in the app that build the mirror https://bitbucket.org/pypa/bandersnatch/issue/53, we need to way the next sync | 16:59 |
| jd__ | ok :( | 16:59 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add __repr__ method for sample.Sample https://review.openstack.org/131324 | 17:07 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Improve manual.rst file https://review.openstack.org/131374 | 17:10 |
| amalagon | hey eglynn: I uploaded a new patch which hopefully reduces the number of cases to 2, https://review.openstack.org/104415 | 17:11 |
| eglynn | amalagon: thanks, I'll have a look shortly | 17:12 |
| amalagon | thanks! | 17:12 |
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| eglynn | amalagon: quick chat about that centered moving average logic? | 17:57 |
| eglynn | amalagon: i.e. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104415/29/gnocchi/aggregates/rolling_statistics.py lines 37-42 | 17:58 |
| amalagon | eglynn: shoot | 17:58 |
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| eglynn | amalagon: I'm having difficulty mapping the programmatic approach to my understanding of centered moving average | 18:02 |
| eglynn | amalagon: so say the window width is 2 periods | 18:03 |
| eglynn | amalagon: nah 4 is prolly a better example, otherwise the demoninator gets confusing | 18:04 |
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| eglynn | amalagon: so window = 4, and we need the MA at time t say | 18:05 |
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| * cdent has extra gigs | 18:07 | |
| eglynn | amalagon: then MA(t) = the average of (v[t-2]+v[t-1]+v[t]+v[t+1])/4 and (v[t-1]+v[t]+v[t+1]+v[t+2])/4 | 18:08 |
| eglynn | ... where v[t] is the aggregated value for period t | 18:09 |
| eglynn | amalagon: still around? | 18:10 |
| amalagon | eglynn: yep, sorry one sec | 18:10 |
| amalagon | eglynn: I took out the double average I think | 18:11 |
| amalagon | which is the example above | 18:11 |
| eglynn | i.e. the centering involves taking the average of two moving averages | 18:11 |
| eglynn | one anchored on a time offset half a period into the past | 18:11 |
| eglynn | the other anchored on a time offset half a period into the future | 18:12 |
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