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| gzhai | eglynn: Do we need one installation doc for ipmi-agent, like this? | 08:23 |
| gzhai | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/apt/content/ceilometer-install-nova.html | 08:23 |
| gzhai | eglynn: I assume all the IPMI agent scripts would be in installation package automatically | 08:24 |
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| eglynn | gzhai: there's a Telemetry chapter in the install guide that should be extended to explain why you would choose to install the ipmi agent on a particular host | 08:25 |
| eglynn | gzhai: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/install-guide/install/yum/content/ch_ceilometer.html | 08:25 |
| eglynn | gzhai: the packaging for your new agent doesn't exist as yet | 08:26 |
| eglynn | gzhai: on most distros, e.g. Ubuntu or Fedora, there are *seperate* ceilometer packages for each service | 08:26 |
| eglynn | gzhai: e.g. for Fedora there are openstack-ceilometer-collector, openstack-ceilometer-central, openstack-ceilometer-compute, openstack-ceilometer-alarm, openstack-ceilometer-notification, openstack-ceilometer-api packages | 08:28 |
| eglynn | gzhai: the downstream packagers will need to create a new openstack-ceilometer-apmi (for example) package for your new agent | 08:29 |
| DinaBelova | forlks, /me is back :) | 08:29 |
| DinaBelova | folks* | 08:29 |
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| DinaBelova | nice to be here again :) | 08:30 |
| gzhai | eglynn: so I need do this package work before the installation doc work? | 08:30 |
| eglynn | gzhai: that does not happen automatically when a patch defining a new service is landed | 08:30 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov, are you here? | 08:30 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: welcome back :) | 08:30 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yay :) | 08:30 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... should I say, welcome back Mrs. Lukjanov? ;) | 08:31 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, well, I had no chance to change the family name :) /me is having two passports and USA visa now, and I can't change all the documents before the Paris summit :) | 08:31 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, so I'll fully become Mrs. Lukjanov only after the Paris summit :) | 08:32 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: congratulations, I trust the big day went well :) | 08:32 |
| eglynn | gzhai: yes, it would make sense to hold off the install guide changes until the packaging work is done | 08:33 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah :) it was really nice :) /me hopes to get photos soon - my photographer is really busy with them :D | 08:33 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: cool :) | 08:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add an API configuration section to docs https://review.openstack.org/121826 | 08:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow pecan debug middleware to be turned off https://review.openstack.org/121823 | 08:35 |
| eglynn | gzhai: you probably need to give the Ubuntu package maintainer a heads-up that your new agent needs packaging | 08:36 |
| eglynn | gzhai: IIRC the maintainer of the Ubuntu ceilometer packages is Chuck Short (IRC: zul, email: zulcss@ubuntu.com) | 08:36 |
| eglynn | gzhai: ... whether a distro decides to create a new openstack-ceilometer-ipmi package will depend to some extent on whether they want to support that agent-per-host model | 08:37 |
| eglynn | gzhai: ... if OTOH they prefer the notifications-from-Ironic model, then they won't necessarily create that new package | 08:38 |
| eglynn | gzhai: ... makes sense? | 08:38 |
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| ildikov | DinaBelova: hi, and congrats also :) | 08:48 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: what's up? | 08:49 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov - may you take a look on this spec please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119077/3 Probably not only on the spec, but on the suspicious issue with py27 job... Frankly speaking I haveno idea where it came from ,probably you'll have some ideas? | 08:50 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov and thank you so much :) | 08:50 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow pecan debug middleware to be turned off https://review.openstack.org/121823 | 08:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add an API configuration section to docs https://review.openstack.org/121826 | 09:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Stop using standard NotImplementedError to skip tests https://review.openstack.org/121110 | 09:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow pecan debug middleware to be turned off https://review.openstack.org/121823 | 09:06 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: the Developer impact section is missing from your spec | 09:09 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: I will add the check the spec task to my endless todo list :) | 09:12 |
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| cdent | eglynn, just for a quick status update on the performance stuff: yesterday I managed to stabilize a configuration for both icehouse and juno against which I can run rally scenarios. It's basically a devstack with just keystone, ceilomoter-api and ceilometer-collector. | 09:32 |
| cdent | and then I broke rally: https://bugs.launchpad.net/rally/+bug/1370166 | 09:33 |
| cdent | gonna do some errands at bank etc and then come back and make some numbers | 09:33 |
| eglynn | cdent: hmmm interesting, /me reads trhe bug report | 09:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Stop using standard NotImplementedError to skip tests https://review.openstack.org/121110 | 09:34 |
| eglynn | cdent: thanks! ... chat later | 09:34 |
| cdent | my rather drafty notes are here; https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/SqlIcehouseJuno | 09:34 |
| cdent | the rally problem is more likely a mysql problem that needs to be "managed" by rally | 09:34 |
| cdent | not a fundamental problem in rally itself | 09:34 |
| eglynn | a-ha, got it | 09:35 |
| cdent | the end result should be big picture numbers demonstrating change between icehouse and juno (against any datastore if we like) | 09:36 |
| eglynn | cdent: great notes BTW | 09:36 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... could one say stigmergic? ;) | 09:36 |
| cdent | well yes, exactly :) | 09:36 |
| cdent | I had to leave them behind for myself because I was getting lost in the tunnels | 09:37 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 09:37 |
| cdent | I'm going to take a little side trip to do some opengl hacking to make a rabbithole screen saver that descends forever | 09:38 |
| eglynn | interesting idea around killing the extraneous services in devstack | 09:38 |
| eglynn | ... which ones would be considered surplus to requirements? | 09:38 |
| cdent | last night's final icehouse local.conf was this: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/IcehouseLocalConf | 09:39 |
| cdent | which results in just keystone, ceilo-api and ceilo-collector | 09:39 |
| cdent | so all one is doing is auth, endpoints, sample creation and storage, and sample querying | 09:39 |
| eglynn | a-ha, got it ... because the rally scenario is injecting samples *directly* as opposed to relying on real resources being spun up | 09:40 |
| cdent | correct | 09:40 |
| cdent | besides not wanting to have other stuff impact the tests, it also means it is possible to spin up a devstack a good deal faster | 09:41 |
| eglynn | yeah, true that | 09:41 |
| * eglynn was assuming initially that rally scenario would be more indirect | 09:41 | |
| eglynn | ... i.e. spin up a raft of instances and let the sample collection procede asynchronously | 09:42 |
| cdent | (I suspect these investigations will prove to be useful for future testing stuff) | 09:42 |
| cdent | you can do that too | 09:42 |
| eglynn | but yeah, I see the advantages of your pared-down approach | 09:42 |
| cdent | but the simpler scenarios are basically just ways to wiggle the api | 09:42 |
| eglynn | yeap, makes sense | 09:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to stackforge/gnocchi: Stop using standard NotImplementedError to skip tests https://review.openstack.org/121110 | 09:59 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, a-ha, ok. let me check if its adding will help :) | 10:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec about central and compute agents merge https://review.openstack.org/119077 | 10:44 |
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| DinaBelova | dhellmann, are you around? :) | 11:25 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: you have to remove the spaces before the Kilo specs lines here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/ceilometer-specs/master/doc/source/index.rst | 11:35 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_, a-ha, I removed it locally and started the docs job to check :) | 11:36 |
| DinaBelova | it succeeded just now - needed to install the deps :) | 11:36 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: sphinx needs the items included in the toctree, and the spaces commented that part out | 11:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec about central and compute agents merge https://review.openstack.org/119077 | 11:37 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_, thanks! | 11:37 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: np :) | 11:37 |
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| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: could you please remove the spaces also? as Sphinx indents the list of specs now: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/77/119077/5/check/gate-ceilometer-specs-docs/9d626d4/doc/build/html/ | 12:02 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_, a-ha, let me fix this, did not notice them | 12:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec about central and compute agents merge https://review.openstack.org/119077 | 12:03 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_, thanks, done :) | 12:04 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: tnx :) | 12:04 |
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| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: I meant all the lines in the Kilo specs block, so it should look the same as the Juno specs above :) | 12:10 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_, I'm crazy :D | 12:12 |
| DinaBelova | let me fix it finally :D | 12:12 |
| hhuang | hello, I'm new to openstack development. I've just submitted a simple bug to ceilometer project. Do I have to wait for other developers or reviewers to give comments or do something before I can start working on the patch to the bug I reported? | 12:12 |
| DinaBelova | I did not see the difference | 12:12 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: sorry, Sphinx is supersensitive... | 12:12 |
| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: :) | 12:12 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov_ :D | 12:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Dina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Add spec about central and compute agents merge https://review.openstack.org/119077 | 12:12 |
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| ildikov_ | DinaBelova: now it looks pretty nice \o/ :) | 12:16 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov_, tnx :D | 12:23 |
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| eglynn | hhuang: you can start work on it straight away if you see a clear way to a solution | 12:31 |
| eglynn | hhuang: we'll triage the bug and target it to a milestone | 12:31 |
| eglynn | hhuang: what's the bug number? | 12:31 |
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| hhuang | eglynn, thanks a lot for your reply. the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1370476 | 12:32 |
| eglynn | hhuang: thanks, that's very low-risk so could easily be included in juno-rc1 if you can propose a patch before the end-of-week | 12:36 |
| eglynn | hhuang: please include a "Closes-Bug: #1370476" tag in the commit message for you patch | 12:37 |
| eglynn | hhuang: thanks! | 12:37 |
| * eglynn heads belatedly into the office ... laters | 12:38 | |
| hhuang | eglynn: thanks a lot for taking a look. I'm working on it and can submit the patch tonight. | 12:38 |
| eglynn | hhuang: excellent, thanks! | 12:38 |
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| foexle | hi guys, is there any trick for ceilometer ? I try to use ceilometer for our production env and all plugins and agents runs normally. collector parse all samples and pushe to mongodb | 12:39 |
| foexle | but i cant get any informations via ceilometer cli ... everytime i got time outage because mongodb takes to long | 12:40 |
| foexle | so i've build some big mongodb clusters ... but this is really strange | 12:40 |
| foexle | is there any trick ? maybe index or whatever ? do i've overlooked any ? | 12:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Chris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Tune up mod_wsgi settings in example configuration https://review.openstack.org/121919 | 13:03 |
| cdent | foexle: are you sure it is mongo timing out and not the http api? | 13:04 |
| cdent | that is, what kind of error are you getting? | 13:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Joanna H. Huang proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Modified docs to update DevStack's config filename https://review.openstack.org/122144 | 13:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: [HBase] Catch AlreadyExists error in Connection upgrade https://review.openstack.org/113504 | 13:18 |
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| foexle | cdent: you're right :) that was the problem http api | 13:34 |
| foexle | cdent: apache will now starts the wsgi process and it works ... slow but it works :) | 13:34 |
| foexle | cdent: thanks | 13:34 |
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| cdent | foexle: you can sometimes get some speed ups by tweaking your queries so they are more specific | 13:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Return 404 if patched resource doesn't exists https://review.openstack.org/122160 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add a gnocchi dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/122161 | 14:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Add a gnocchi dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/98798 | 14:04 |
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| blinky_ghost | Hi all, can anybody tell me if ceilometer supports monitoring of my baremetal servers where I run openstack services like, nova, neutron, keystone? Thanks | 14:52 |
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| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: "baremetal servers" == "nodes managed by ironic"? | 14:54 |
| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: note https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ironic-notifications | 14:55 |
| blinky_ghost | eglynn__: I'm not familiar with ironic, I want to monitor my controllers and compute nodes. Do I have to use Ironic when Juno comes out? | 14:57 |
| blinky_ghost | eglynn__: My understanding is that ironic is use to deploy "baremetal instances" just like I use virtualization instances based on KVM. Is this correct? | 15:00 |
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| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: no you don't have to use ironic ... I just presumed that's what you meant from your use of the "baremetal" terminology | 15:28 |
| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: you can do node-level monitoring over SNMP | 15:29 |
| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: however, we only currently have an effective way of dynamically discovering the nodes that have been deplyed via tripleO | 15:29 |
| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: ... otherwise the node IP addresses would need to be listed in the pipeline.yaml, which is not ideal | 15:30 |
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| jasondotstar | is there documentation that refers to rate limiting ceilometer data ? | 15:31 |
| blinky_ghost | eglynn__: do you have an howto to do this tripleO? I've been testing tripleO on my lab so I might consider to use it in the future. | 15:32 |
| jasondotstar | basically i'd like to know if there is a way to rate limit tenant data flowing into ceilometer | 15:32 |
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| jasondotstar | I've been reading through this (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/measurements.html) but this seems to talk about the measurements that can be inspected inside ceilometer data itself. i'd like to know if i can rate limit the amount of data being pushed into ceilometer | 15:38 |
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| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: the node discovery feature was added in this patch https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/commit/670736a2 | 15:42 |
| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: basically it relies on querying nova-api and detecting the 'ctlplane' address set by tripleO | 15:43 |
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| eglynn__ | blinky_ghost: then you'd need an additional source in your pipeline.yaml with the discovery element set to "tripleo_overcloud_nodes" | 15:44 |
| blinky_ghost | eglynn__: ok thanks, I'll take a look | 15:44 |
| eglynn__ | lsmola: ... is there a better description/docco of that feature ^^^ anywhere that we could point blinky_ghost at? | 15:45 |
| eglynn__ | jasondotstar: we do not currently have any rate limiting baked into the ceilometer-api service, or the collector | 15:46 |
| * lsmola reading back | 15:47 | |
| lsmola | eglynn__: blinky_ghost the monitoring is now by default in TripleO, so you might try that, the script for deployment is called 'devtest' | 15:50 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: let me dig up the pipeline.conf for that | 15:50 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ceilometer-undercloud-config/os-apply-config/etc/ceilometer/pipeline.yaml | 15:51 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: plus you need to install snmpd on each node you want to monitor | 15:52 |
| blinky_ghost | lsmola: does this monitor openstack services also? like neutron, nova, etc? | 15:53 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: then you need to set username/password for those snmpd here | 15:53 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-image-elements/blob/master/elements/ceilometer/os-apply-config/etc/ceilometer/ceilometer.conf#L32 | 15:53 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: no this is hardware level monitoring | 15:54 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: TripleO does not have service level monitoring through Ceilometer now, but it's planned for K | 15:54 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: and I think somebody was actually working on that | 15:54 |
| lsmola | blinky_ghost: I think TripleO guys are just using logstash now, that will show you failures of services | 15:57 |
| blinky_ghost | lsmola: ok, thanks I'll test it out | 15:58 |
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| jasondotstar | eglynn__ do you know if there are any blueprints to provide this? | 16:15 |
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| cdent | eglynn__: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/RallySummary | 16:37 |
| cdent | I've got the testing situation fairly repeatable now, but only with relatively low numbers of samples being created | 16:37 |
| cdent | gordc: ^ | 16:38 |
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| cdent | when anybody gets a chance to look at that stuff, some guidance on directions to go would be useful | 16:45 |
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| prad | gordc, eglynn__ you guys mind looking at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121950/ | 18:25 |
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| gordc | prad: i'll try to get around to it later... (we have an orientation here at work) | 19:14 |
| gordc | prad: the dependent patch isn't passing though. | 19:14 |
| prad | gordc, its catch 22 problem.. they both need each other .. if i do it the other way this fails | 19:15 |
| prad | gordc, i could merge them into one patch if thats simpler | 19:15 |
| prad | but they are two unrelated changes | 19:15 |
| gordc | prad: i don't ge tit. why can't we implement the 'enable kilo specs' patch first? | 19:21 |
| gordc | errr. it* | 19:21 |
| prad | gordc, cos buildupshinx fails as it doesn't recognize kilo/ as part of the tree | 19:22 |
| prad | build_sphinx even | 19:22 |
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| prad | gordc, hence this change to enable it in index.rst | 19:23 |
| gordc | prad: oh i see...well it won't work this way either because the 2nd patch will never merge because of failing first patch. | 19:23 |
| prad | only way i see is to merge these two into one commit | 19:24 |
| prad | unless you can think of a better way | 19:24 |
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| gordc | prad: yeah you may have too. i think that's what keystone did. | 19:26 |
| gordc | only question is whether you think your bp will be the first one approved for kilo ;) | 19:27 |
| prad | gordc, hehe yea.. or we create a fake bp with this change | 19:27 |
| prad | gordc, that way this change is on its own with a fake .rst file | 19:28 |
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| gordc | prad: whatever's easiest i gues... we'd have to have another patch to remove the fake rst after too. | 19:28 |
| gordc | i'll try taking a look at your spec in a bit | 19:28 |
| prad | gordc, yea.. lemme see what i can do. I prefer to keep it out of an actual bp commit. | 19:30 |
| gordc | prad: cool cool | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Enable Kilo specs https://review.openstack.org/121950 | 19:40 |
| prad | gordc, k i just copied template.rst as fake.rst and removed the dependency | 19:42 |
| prad | gordc, no i need to rekick off jenkins on other | 19:42 |
| prad | now | 19:42 |
| gordc | prad: ok sure. | 19:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for Network Services Notification consumption https://review.openstack.org/121902 | 19:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: Spec for Network Services Notifications consumption https://review.openstack.org/121902 | 20:09 |
| prad | gordc, I think the enable kilo commit should pass on it own now.. if we can get that approved, I can rebase my spec | 20:12 |
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