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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: XenAPI support: Memory Usage  https://review.openstack.org/11486701:49
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openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: XenAPI support: Changes for networking metrics  https://review.openstack.org/11486802:10
openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer  https://review.openstack.org/10441502:20
openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: XenAPI support: Disk rates  https://review.openstack.org/11487302:30
openstackgerritRen Qiaowei proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: XenAPI support: Update measurements documentation  https://review.openstack.org/11487402:52
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openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer  https://review.openstack.org/10441503:34
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openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer  https://review.openstack.org/10441504:30
openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Holt-Winters in Custom Aggregation  https://review.openstack.org/11487904:30
openstackgerritDavid Geng proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware: Support secret host_password option  https://review.openstack.org/11442804:43
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cmystereglynn-office: morning07:23
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cmystereglynn-office: ping me when you are around please07:54
ildikovcmyster: eglynn is on vacation this week and next week07:56
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cmysterahha08:02
cmysterthe office part is confusing here08:02
cmysterthanks ildikov08:02
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ildikovcmyster: np, I guess it's an office machine with a client left online most probably accidentally08:12
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cmysterheh I guess so08:13
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openstackgerritlawrancejing proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Test contribution(Please ignore the patch)  https://review.openstack.org/11491208:55
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nsajeDinaBelova: ping09:35
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow to requeue a sample  https://review.openstack.org/11222509:38
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Permit usage of notifications for metering  https://review.openstack.org/8022509:38
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Document pipeline publishers configuration  https://review.openstack.org/11491909:38
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow to requeue a sample  https://review.openstack.org/11222509:42
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Document pipeline publishers configuration  https://review.openstack.org/11491909:42
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cdentnsaje: I should have caught dispath10:03
nsajecdent: hehe :-)10:03
cdentmy coffee is no longer working10:03
cdentorz10:03
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boris-42ildikov hi10:41
boris-42ildikov wanna see result of profiling?)10:41
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ildikovboris-42: hi11:28
boris-42ildikov how are you?)11:29
ildikovboris-42: I'm ok, thanks! You?11:29
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ildikovboris-42: I'm busy with internal meetings during the week11:29
boris-42ildikov heh meeting..11:29
boris-42meetings*11:29
boris-42ildikov I am ok=)11:29
ildikovboris-42: :)11:29
boris-42ildikov so this is sample of trace http://boris-42.github.io/ngk.html =)11:30
boris-42ildikov powered by ceilometer=)11:30
boris-42ildikov it goes through 3 projects (glance, keystone & nova)11:30
ildikovboris-42: nice one :)11:32
boris-42ildikov so in Juno it will work out of box11:32
boris-42ildikov just add glance|cinder|keystone|.. --profile … any_command11:33
boris-42ildikov and then osprofiler trace show and you are getting this pretty html=)11:33
ildikovboris-42: you mean out of the box, that if someone knows how to use this than it will work, right?11:34
boris-42ildikov ya it's just argument --profile in any of python clients11:34
boris-42ildikov that will be added11:34
ildikovboris-42: cool :)11:36
ildikovboris-42: what are the further plans?11:36
boris-42ildikov oh there is a lot =)11:36
boris-42ildikov we should integrate this in Rally (so performance testing + profiling)11:36
ildikovboris-42: I thought that you have a long list :)11:37
boris-42ildikov tracing just special type of points (dynamically)11:37
boris-42ildikov PKI11:37
boris-42ildikov better graphs & integration with horizon=)11:37
boris-42ildikov Trace_every_X request=)11:38
boris-42ildikov aggregating this data=)11:38
boris-42ildikov as well more optimal backend in ceilometer for this feature11:38
ildikovboris-42: sounds good11:42
ildikovboris-42: what do you mean by that more optimal backend?11:43
boris-42ildikov better schema11:43
ildikovboris-42: how this would look like?11:43
boris-42ildikov in SQL it's enough to have just 2 fields11:43
boris-42ildikov base_id, TEXT_FIELD with rest11:43
boris-42base_id should be index11:44
boris-42and that will work very fast =)11:44
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ildikovboris-42: that's a pretty simple schema :)11:45
boris-42ildikov simple things usually work well=)11:45
ildikovboris-42: sure, until you don't have bigger plans with that 'rest' :)11:46
nsajeildikov, cdent, everyone: what should happen if the central agent loses contact with Zookeeper?11:50
nsajestop polling? poll everything? in the first case we don't get data, in the second case we might ddos our own services11:50
nsajeOR continue to poll with whatever group info we have11:51
cdentPresumably it has to stop polling because the rest of the agents may not have lost contact.11:51
cdentand their next polling cycle will have changed groups, yes?11:51
nsajecdent: yep, good point11:51
cdentIt's not perfect, but I don't think perfect is what we are going for here...we want simple too.11:52
cdentPresumably of zookeeper goes dead for everyone, hell should be breaking loose somewhere.11:52
cdents/of/if/11:52
cdentbut it isn't the job of the agent to worry about that11:53
cdentbrb11:53
nsajecdent: yeah, I'm thinking more of the first situation you mentioned11:53
nsajecdent: e.g. only one losing connection11:53
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ildikovnsaje: I agree with cdent for the first looks, that option will not ruin anything11:59
ildikovnsaje: ... and we will also loose only one cycle amount of data, IIUC12:00
cdentassuming it is working :)12:00
nsajeildikov: yeah. The agent is still up though, just unable to communicate with the coordination backend12:01
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ildikovnsaje: yeap, but then the coordination backend will not use it in the next cycle, event if that agent is up, right?12:03
nsajeindeed12:03
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Allow to requeue a sample  https://review.openstack.org/11222512:32
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Document pipeline publishers configuration  https://review.openstack.org/11491912:32
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Permit usage of notifications for metering  https://review.openstack.org/8022512:32
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding another set of hardware metrics  https://review.openstack.org/11495412:50
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jd__for people not following me (what a shame) https://julien.danjou.info/blog/2014/openstack-ceilometer-the-gnocchi-experiment13:39
openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Holt-Winters in Custom Aggregation  https://review.openstack.org/11487913:41
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openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Extension for moving aggregation in API layer  https://review.openstack.org/10441513:44
openstackgerritAna Malagon proposed a change to stackforge/gnocchi: Holt-Winters in Custom Aggregation  https://review.openstack.org/11487913:44
gordcjd__: nice profile pic. that's as far as i read.13:44
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: VMware: Support secret host_password option  https://review.openstack.org/11442813:50
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cdentjd__: nice article, covers it well, and I think does a pretty good job of setting expectations which is probably key13:51
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jd__gordc: ah thanks, that's all I needed to hear :p13:55
jd__cdent: thanks :)13:55
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gordcjd__: that's what i thought.lol13:57
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pradkgordc, could you please review and approve this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111038/ .. I believe i took care of all the suggestions eglynn had in his last comment14:01
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gordcpradk: sure. will take a look right after this scrum.14:03
pradkty sir14:03
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gordcpradk: you're adding a test to verify the multiple instances issue right?14:10
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pradkgordc, yes as a separate change14:10
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openstackgerritNejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Central agent work-load partitioning  https://review.openstack.org/11354914:25
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cdentgordc has there ever been any discussion of using a write cache in the sql implementation? Or is that considered unsafe?15:03
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhance compute diskio tests to handle multi instance  https://review.openstack.org/11499115:04
pradkgordc, ^^ :)15:05
gordcpradk: cool cool :)15:06
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gordccdent: hmmm. i don't think there's been any detailed discussion15:06
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gordccdent: Bayer just mentioned it in passing and i think i added a comment regarding using some LRU type cache15:07
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhance compute diskio tests to handle multi instance  https://review.openstack.org/11499115:08
cdentI was just thinking something simple like: accept data, dump to memcache, respond in positive, notify some other thread (or even process) that there's a new id to process15:08
gordccdent: yeah, something simple is ideal... do you literally mean use memcache in addition to sql backend?15:10
gordcor are you saying memcache generically as in some sort of memory cache.15:10
cdentYeah, is that dirty somehow?15:10
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gordccdent: it'll be something to discuss... bringing in a new dependency.15:11
cdentI was thinking actual memcache, because it already exists, is simple, and can be scaled.15:11
cdentIt not being present is one of the things that has surprised me.15:11
gordccdent: we're not perfect. :P15:12
cdent:)15:12
cdentNobody is. Especially when there aren't enough bodies.15:12
cdentthe interface between the rest api and the storage implementation would make it kind of challenging to use memcached for read caching, but there are probalby still ways to make good use of it.15:13
gordccdent: i think if possible i'd look at a lru_cache type solution... bringing in memcache i'd be a bit more wary of bringing in this late.15:13
cdentoh yeah, I'm not suggesting it as something for this cycle15:14
cdentor even necessarily at all, just trying to understand the history15:14
gordccdent: oh... than it's probably not there because we didn't really work on optimising sql backend until recently.15:14
gordci'd be open to using it in future... i'm sure it'll help.15:15
cdentOn the "surprised its not there" I meant more generally: there's a datastore and there's a web interface. When I see those things I just kind of assume memcache will be in there somewhere.15:15
gordccdent: yeah... we missed some stuff... and i guess ceilometer was good enough for those using it. (ie. not sql)15:18
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gordcfabiog: you see this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/135184115:29
gordcfigured you're the keystone expert here.15:30
fabioggordc: I was talking with Ildiko about this ... It is strange because I am not handling any of the URLs, it is Keystone that does the API version discovery15:31
fabioggordc: do you know which Keystone client this person was running?15:31
fabioggordc: anyway assign it to me, and I will see if I can find the root cause15:32
gordcfabiog: no clue. do you know what version they should be running?15:32
fabioggordc: I think it must be > 0.1015:32
fabiogthe latest is 0.10.115:32
gordcfabiog: i see... we have keystoneclient>=0.10 set in requirements.15:33
fabioggordc: it has been trieaged in devstack?15:33
gordcwe merged requirement same time as when the bug was created15:34
gordcso maybe that's it.15:34
fabioggordc: with a fresh devstack should be easy to find out if it is a bug or not15:35
fabioggordc: do you want to assing the bug to me and I will investigate?15:36
gordcfabiog: sure if you have time.15:36
gordcfabiog: i don't have a vm to test on and i'm too scared to do a clean devstack install on my machine15:36
fabioggordc: as you said ... I am the Keystone expert ... :-)15:36
gordc:)15:36
fabioggordc: please go ahead and assign it to me15:37
gordcfabiog: done15:37
fabioggordc: i will try to report on the problem by Thursday (if any)15:37
fabioggordc: thanks15:37
gordccool cool15:38
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cdentgordc: eglynn wanted me to keep you abreast of my progress on the javelin2+ceilometer stuff. I'm close but now pending on getting some info from Sean or Joe. See the final few  bits on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10235416:06
gordccdent: cool cool. thanks for update.16:06
cdent✓16:06
cdent✔16:07
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cdentthat one is a bit better16:07
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cdentbbl16:07
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gordccdent: i guess just let me know if you hit any blockers.16:08
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Support for per disk volume measurements  https://review.openstack.org/11103817:53
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enhance compute diskio tests to handle multi instance  https://review.openstack.org/11499118:07
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11009618:27
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: sync olso-incubator code  https://review.openstack.org/11506518:49
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: switch to sqlalchemy core  https://review.openstack.org/11352420:46
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: switch to sqlalchemy core  https://review.openstack.org/11352420:46
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: switch to sqlalchemy core  https://review.openstack.org/11352420:59
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: switch to sqlalchemy core  https://review.openstack.org/11352420:59
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