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| samm | Hey, can u please tell me is there any use of Nova, if I am using ceilomter,keystone,swift | 05:15 |
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| samm | Hi All, I am getting api_paste_config file not found error, while running cmd: ceilometer-api. The log location is:http://paste.openstack.org/show/94216/ | 07:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vitaly Gridnev proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Update docs with Sahara notifications configuration https://review.openstack.org/113272 | 08:08 |
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| eglynn | jd__: hola! ... you might want to cast your eye over the gnocchi discussion with the TC last night | 09:02 |
| eglynn | jd__: logged here ... http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-08-12-20.02.log.html#l-408 | 09:02 |
| eglynn | jd__: Monty raised the "why not use carbon?" question ... IIRC you evaluated using whisper/carbon as an option and rejected it? | 09:03 |
| jd__ | eglynn: definitely | 09:03 |
| eglynn | jd__: I couldn't remember the exact reasons tho', other than the code quality seemed low and resistant to change? | 09:03 |
| jd__ | yeah, and there'a s few limitation in the whisper format too | 09:03 |
| jd__ | which are likely very hard to hack on since the code is ugly and there's 0 testing | 09:04 |
| eglynn | jd__: would it make sense to rely on the gnocchi thread on the ML with a super-quick summary of that? | 09:04 |
| jd__ | it would make sense if someone asked that on the list | 09:05 |
| jd__ | I hate when we mix IRC/ml threads without any link | 09:05 |
| eglynn | OK, fair enough | 09:05 |
| * eglynn was also thinking there's also a lack of support for cross-series aggregation and dimensioning, but wasn't 100% sure of that | 09:06 | |
| jd__ | that too – though I'm sure one could argue we could add it on top of whisper | 09:07 |
| jd__ | to be fair I was thinking about writing a first blog post about Gnocchi, my "research" and how we ended up on that, etc | 09:07 |
| jd__ | I guess it's time to do it | 09:07 |
| jd__ | that should cover the TC interrogation too | 09:08 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah, a blog post like that would be really useful I think | 09:08 |
| * eglynn LOLs at interrogation :) ... you are not wrong on that! | 09:09 | |
| jd__ | I'll definitely start on that | 09:09 |
| eglynn | cool, thank you sir! | 09:09 |
| jd__ | well honestly I understood the "wtf are you doing" | 09:09 |
| eglynn | the "WTF" from the TC, d'ya mean? | 09:10 |
| jd__ | yep – you can clearly look at Gnocchi and says "NIH syndrom" or "Ceilometer rewriten from scratch?" or whatever if you don't know the field | 09:10 |
| jd__ | s/says/ponders/ | 09:11 |
| * eglynn was a tad disappointed tho' that some had clearly not read the nearly week-old ML thread | 09:11 | |
| eglynn | (despite it being linked in the agenda) | 09:11 |
| jd__ | yeah :( | 09:11 |
| jd__ | fortunately I've a 2 hours train journey tonight so… I know what I'll do | 09:12 |
| jd__ | eglynn: btw I've sent a first simple patch for archiving policy, if you can take a look | 09:12 |
| eglynn | wifi on SNCF for the win! :) | 09:12 |
| jd__ | it's a first step | 09:12 |
| jd__ | eglynn: bah you wish :( when traveling in the country, ya don't even have EDGE sometime :) | 09:12 |
| eglynn | jd__: yeah I saw that patch, thanks! ... it's on my todo list for this morning :) | 09:13 |
| jd__ | krewl | 09:13 |
| jd__ | kewl* | 09:13 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: hi | 10:49 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: just a quick question I'm not sure in | 10:49 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: is ceilometer-expirer supported for HBase too? | 10:50 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: so if someone sets the time_to_live value, will the old samples/resources/users be cleaned up if Ceilometer is configured with HBase? | 10:51 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: hi! no, we are thinking how to implement this | 10:52 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: ok, thanks, that is what I thought, but I wasn't sure | 10:53 |
| _nadya_ | ildikov: HBase has ttl parameter but it's hard to set through python | 10:53 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: I needed the info for the Admin guide I'm writing now for Ceilo, I will add a note about this there | 10:54 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: that sounds pretty unfortunate :( | 10:54 |
| _nadya_ | ok | 10:54 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113842/ | 10:56 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, that turns py33 off for the stable branches | 10:57 |
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| jd__ | DinaBelova: +1 | 11:04 |
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| flwang1 | eglynn: ping | 11:10 |
| eglynn | flwang1: 'sup? | 11:11 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: may i know what's the ^policy^ of ceilmeter for adding a pollster? if the metric has been collected by notification | 11:12 |
| eglynn | flwang1: a pollster is only needed if (a) there's no notification or (b) the notification cadence is insufficient | 11:12 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: ok, but we're running into some issues if we only depends on the notifications | 11:14 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: I totally understand the benefit of notification | 11:14 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: but you know, mq is not always reliable | 11:14 |
| eglynn | flwang1: sure, but if AMQP is broken almost nothing will work in openstack | 11:15 |
| eglynn | flwang1: no new instances or volumes etc. | 11:15 |
| flwang1 | i see. | 11:16 |
| eglynn | flwang1: so the main reason for using polling is not that we don't trust AMQP notifications | 11:17 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... rather it's more that it some cases the info needed simply isn't surfaced via notifications | 11:17 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... or it is, but those notification don't occur often enough | 11:17 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: I think the main concern for pollster is the database workload, right? | 11:18 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... rather it's more that *in some cases the info needed simply isn't surfaced via notifications | 11:18 |
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| eglynn | flwang1: no, the concern is API load | 11:18 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... e.g. load on the nova-api service for example | 11:18 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: ok, make sense | 11:19 |
| flwang1 | and another case is we want to bill some existed resources which may not be collected before ceilometer deployed | 11:20 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: any suggestion for that case? | 11:21 |
| eglynn | flwang1: one sec | 11:22 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: or for some reasons, we lost the notifications | 11:23 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: a real case is we found the ceilometer process was hang | 11:24 |
| flwang1 | if there is a user did some operations in the period before we restart the ceilometer process, we definitely lost the notifications happened in that period | 11:25 |
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| eglynn | flwang1: if the ceilometer process are restarted without having consumed the notifcation, surely this will still be available for consumption after the restart? | 11:26 |
| flwang1 | I know it's rare, but it's very possible | 11:26 |
| flwang1 | let me give more details | 11:27 |
| flwang1 | we do have some monitor script for openstack services, for ceilometer, initially, we just monitor the process status | 11:27 |
| flwang1 | but then we found ceilometer-api was ^hang^, it can write data into database, maybe a timeout to database, I can't remember that clearly | 11:29 |
| flwang1 | obviously, we may lost some notifications at that period | 11:29 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Enhancing the make_test_data script https://review.openstack.org/102502 | 11:29 |
| flwang1 | for this scenario, it's hard to recover some key data we want to charge the customer | 11:29 |
| eglynn | flwang1: what is the actual resource in question here? | 11:31 |
| flwang1 | network, instance, anything is possible, TBH | 11:32 |
| flwang1 | because ceilometer can't write data into database, thought itself maybe still alive | 11:32 |
| eglynn | flwang1: reason I ask is we *already* do the belt'n'braces in the case of instance | 11:33 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... i.e. we already *both* consume notifications *and* poll to populate the same meter | 11:35 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Adding init into tools folder https://review.openstack.org/109946 | 11:35 |
| flwang1 | so i'm thinking is there any possibility to improve the pollster so that admin can trigger it on demand | 11:35 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... reason for that is that the frequency of the nova audit notification insufficient (min period==1 hour) | 11:35 |
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| eglynn | flwang1: ... is there a corresponding audit notification on the networking side? | 11:38 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: do you think it's a reasonable requirement that cloud amdin can trigger specific or all pollster manually? | 11:38 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: I'm not sure, TBH | 11:39 |
| eglynn | flwang1: well we discussed that at length before in the context of testing, and the consensus was not to go down that path | 11:39 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: but I would say the other kind of resources may run into same issue | 11:39 |
| eglynn | flwang1: ... i.e. to leave the polling cycles as periodic tasks | 11:39 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: :( | 11:40 |
| flwang1 | may I know why? what's the concern? | 11:40 |
| flwang1 | it's just adding an option for admin user, I don't think it breaks any existed stuff | 11:41 |
| eglynn | flwang1: the concern, from the testing PoV, was that it would lead to tests in Tempest that tested the test mechanism (manually triggering the polling cycle) not the production mechanism (polling as periodic tasks) | 11:43 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: i can't be convinced by this reason from the operation view :) | 11:48 |
| flwang1 | eglynn: but thanks for the clarification, I will think it a bit more | 11:48 |
| eglynn | flwang1: k, np! | 11:48 |
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| sam__ | Hi, i alarm on image saying that notify when size is equal to 1.0. Though the State is alarm why i am not getting any notification.(The alarm action is log ) | 11:53 |
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| sam__ | Any alarm-evaluator/notifier expert here pls help | 11:54 |
| eglynn | sam__: are you seeing the image samples in the metering store? | 11:55 |
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| sam__ | yup | 11:55 |
| eglynn | sam__: what is the alarm state reported by $ ceilometer alarm-list | 11:55 |
| eglynn | sam__: is the alarm-evaluator service running? | 11:56 |
| eglynn | sam__: are there errors in the alarm-evaluator logs? | 11:56 |
| sam__ | @eglynn: it says "alarm" it just that alarm-notifier service doesnt notify anything | 11:56 |
| eglynn | sam__: and the alarm-notifier service is running? ... and no errors in its logs? | 11:56 |
| eglynn | sam__: the log action means "write the notification to the alarm-notifier log file" | 11:57 |
| sam__ | eglynn: No thete is no erroe..yes i am running alarm-notifier service | 11:57 |
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| sam__ | eglynn: i gave alarm action like this --alarm-action 'log://' | 11:58 |
| eglynn | sam__: $ grep ALARM_UUID alarm-notifier.log | 11:58 |
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| sam__ | eglynn: i dont have alarm-notifier.log, i am using devstack | 12:00 |
| eglynn | sam__: can you make the check the equivalent check with the screen session? | 12:01 |
| eglynn | sam__: screen -r ... navigate to the alarm-notifier screen ... ctrl+[ a ... ?ALARM_UUID | 12:01 |
| sam__ | eglynn: ok let me ckeck | 12:03 |
| sam__ | eglynn: But still when i run manually ceilometer-alarm-notifier -d i should be abale to see "Notifying alarm %(alarm_id)s from %(previous)s" this message ..isnt it? | 12:10 |
| eglynn | sam__: in the log output from that service, which goes to the screen by default in devstack, you should see an INFO message ""Notifying alarm $ALARM_UUID ..." | 12:12 |
| eglynn | sam__: assuming the log severity is not set to exclude INFOI | 12:13 |
| sam__ | eglynn: No the log is set to INFO | 12:14 |
| eglynn-office | sam__: I just all that in my devstack | 12:17 |
| eglynn-office | sam__: I see this in the ceilometer-alarm-notifier screen session ... | 12:18 |
| eglynn-office | 2014-08-13 13:17:04.795 19206 INFO ceilometer.alarm.notifier.log [-] Notifying alarm e3475040-ca81-4e41-b7c0-3dc944c0e18c from insufficient data to alarm with action SplitResult(scheme=u'log', netloc=u'', path=u'', query='', fragment='') because Transition to alarm due to 1 samples outside threshold, most recent: 1.0 | 12:18 |
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| sam__ | eglynn-office: Ok i am setting up devstack again will let u know in few minutes | 12:21 |
| sam__ | eglynn-office: Now i am able to see alarm info on my log (i set alarm-notifier.log)..thanks for help. | 12:30 |
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| eglynn-office | sam__: cool, np! | 12:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Documented Stevedore usage and source details https://review.openstack.org/111907 | 12:41 |
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| sam__ | eglynn-office: i miss some of alarms on notifier alarm though the state of alarm gets changed..do you know why? | 14:08 |
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| sam__ | notifier-log* | 14:08 |
| eglynn | sam__: nope, what do you mean by "some"? | 14:09 |
| eglynn | sam__: a random selection of state transitions are missed> | 14:09 |
| eglynn | ? | 14:09 |
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| sam__ | eglynn-office: No i mean suppose i set alarm on 5 alarms, on the log side i gets ony 2 or 3 alarm saying that "Notify alarm..." | 14:10 |
| sam__ | Not all alarms are getting logged | 14:10 |
| sam__ | But when i do ceilometer alarm-list i can see that alarm-state is "alarm" | 14:11 |
| eglynn | sam__: what do you mean by "set alarm"? | 14:11 |
| sam__ | ok, set alarm means create alarm <sorry> | 14:11 |
| eglynn | sam__: $ ceilometer alarm-update -a $ALARM_UUID --state alarm # <== is that what you mean? | 14:11 |
| sam__ | No.."ceilometer alarm-threshold-create --name 1 --descri.." | 14:12 |
| eglynn | sam__: you should see a notification for every alarm state transition with the log action associated with the target state | 14:12 |
| eglynn | sam__: if you're not seeing that, and haven't made any other errors, then it's a bug | 14:13 |
| eglynn | sam__: can you file a bug for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+filebug | 14:13 |
| sam__ | eglynn: Ya that is what expected but i am not seeing for few alarm but alarm-list shows me that state is alarm | 14:13 |
| sam__ | ok | 14:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Doc enhancement for API service deployment with mod_wsgi https://review.openstack.org/111623 | 17:33 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Improve performance of libvirt inspector requests https://review.openstack.org/98377 | 17:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | gordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Improve api_paste_config file searching https://review.openstack.org/99599 | 19:51 |
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| renatoar_ | Hi there, anyone know if is possible to transform bandwidth metric in pipeline? I can transform others metrics but when I try to do it with bandwidth (came from l3) doesn't work. | 21:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/110096 | 23:17 |
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