Monday, 2014-07-28

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openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Debug env for tox  https://review.openstack.org/10990304:32
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openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Debug env for tox  https://review.openstack.org/10990304:53
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openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Debug env for tox  https://review.openstack.org/10990305:15
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/10497406:07
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix aggregator flush method  https://review.openstack.org/9717608:24
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openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Use oslo.msg retry API in rpc publisher  https://review.openstack.org/7784508:30
openstackgerritMehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Permit usage of notifications for metering  https://review.openstack.org/8022508:30
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cdentsileht: Is there evidence anywhere comparing the performance of cast() and notifications08:42
cdentIs performance relevant at all, or is it more a matter of opening up the audience?08:43
silehtcdent, currently yes, because when you cast a message the rpc server reply , and this is not the case with notification08:44
jd__I think there's evident due to the fact it works sync vs async08:44
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cdentOkay jd__ but I'm talking _numbers_08:44
cdentI thought the idea with cast() was that it was supposed to be have a reply and call() was? I guess it is more complex than that?08:45
jd__4208:45
cdentcheers08:45
silehtcdent, the reason of the reply of cast is really misterious to me08:46
cdentSo presumably anything that doesn't have to be reliable ought to use notifications when it becomes available?08:46
silehtcdent, for ceilometer notification have more senses that cast08:46
silehtcdent, in ceilometer if you doesn't have to be reliable, use the udp publusher :)08:47
cdentI guess we've got three different versions of reliable?08:47
cdentBecause the stacktach people are always saying that notifications need two types: truly reliable ones and only sort of reliable ones08:48
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Replace iterator.next() with next(iterator)  https://review.openstack.org/10992508:50
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silehtcdent, an other good reason for notification is the queue always exists on the broker even no more collector are up08:55
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cdentSo presumably the only reason cast() was ever used in the first place was because of the concurrency concerns stated on the linked blueprint? Where is that concurrency solution described?08:57
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openstackgerritDina Belova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Replace iterator.next() with next(iterator)  https://review.openstack.org/10992509:03
cdentnsaje: you about?09:04
nsajecdent: yep09:04
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cdentDid you ever make any headway on the conffixture stuff?09:04
nsajehmm, no, I forgot about that09:04
cdentI've basically got in the habit now of patching that in whenever I start a new branch09:04
nsajeI just started using tox -epy27 -- ceilometer/tests/<script>.py which works09:05
nsajebasically the arguments after `--` get passed to nose09:05
* cdent nods09:05
nsajeand the tests execute in the virtualenv09:06
cdentslow-ish though09:06
cdentI wonder why it is present in one setting and not the other?09:07
silehtcdent, the concurrency concerns of notification listerner have been fixed now in oslo.messaging, this is why we can use it now09:07
cdentAnyway, if you're not going to poke at it anymore nsaje I'll do so if I find the mojo09:07
cdentsileht: Okay, but do you have a reference to the change? I'm curious about how it was done.09:08
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silehtcdent, it's very old :)09:10
cdentSo ceilometer is just taking it's sweet time catching up to the new shiz? :)09:10
silehtcdent, in the old rpc code: this method have been created to fix the issue: https://github.com/openstack/oslo-incubator/blob/master/openstack/common/rpc/amqp.py#L16809:11
cdentThanks, I'll chase from there09:12
silehtcdent, in the new oslo.messaging concurrency have been thinked since the beginning:09:12
silehtcdent, and I have just added some code the have a notification listerner server: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+spec/notification-subscriber-server09:12
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silehtcdent, the first code is completly obsolete and doesn't exists anymore09:13
cdentYeah, I know, I'm just trying to understand the history of the changes: Helps give me a better overview09:13
silehtcdent, before in oslo.msg, each drivers handled the concurrency/thread model itself09:15
silehtcdent, oslo.msg have splited that, now a driver doesn't know what is the used thread model09:16
* cdent nods09:16
silehtcdent, the application developer can chose between eventlet or blocking (and soon greenio, asyncio...)09:16
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openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fixing and enhancing the make_test_data script  https://review.openstack.org/10250209:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Automatic discovery of TripleO Overcloud hardware  https://review.openstack.org/9237009:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix tools scripts connection method  https://review.openstack.org/10994409:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Extracting make_metadata method from make_sample_from_host  https://review.openstack.org/10994509:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding init into tools folder  https://review.openstack.org/10994609:56
openstackgerritLadislav Smola proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adding script for TripleO default set of test data  https://review.openstack.org/10994709:56
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lsmolaeglynn: llu could you guys revisit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92370/, hopefully all the feedback should be there now10:00
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eglynnlsmola: cool, will do!10:07
eglynnlsmola: BTW, welcome back! :)10:07
lsmolaeglynn: thank you :-)10:07
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lsmolaeglynn: I have also split the test data script into multiple patches10:14
lsmolaeglynn: the spam above ^ :-D10:15
lsmolaeglynn: btw. I noticed there are no tests written for the tools scripts10:15
lsmolaeglynn: we should probably write them, cause they were broken by some changes inside ceilometer10:15
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eglynnlsmola: yep, that's a good point10:18
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lsmolaeglynn: will write it on my todo list after some horizon Ceilometer optimization10:21
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DinaBelovaeglynn, o/ /me still in progress of mongo trusty job creation - it's a little bit tricky because of there are several places to go and write few lines in :)10:25
DinaBelovaeglynn. hopefully will add you to the reviewers list today :)10:26
eglynnDinaBelova: thanks!10:26
DinaBelovaeglynn, np, sorry it takes much time :)10:26
eglynnlsmola: cool, "horizon Ceilometer optimization" sounds interesting :)10:26
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Dev_JinIs there anyway to get some kind of trigger/alarm notification on new VM instance creation?11:34
DinaBelovaDev_Jin, probably don't understand you - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/measurements.html#compute-nova - all notifications with the instance resource id and origin == 'n' are coming right after the instance creation11:41
DinaBelovaDev_Jin, these meters are coming just in the time of instance creation11:42
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EphurSeems like that's more of an event than a meter?  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/events.html     The example event definition that's on that same wiki seems to trigger an event when an instance is created or updated11:57
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jd__DinaBelova: if you plan to enable some of Ceilometer unit tests against py33 you'd have my blessing, especially if we can gate against it12:08
jd__just sayin'12:08
jd__sileht: I don't get your comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97847/12:10
DinaBelovajd__, ok, for sure - I'm investigating this problem right now with some initial small changes12:10
jd__sileht: if you cache Connection, basically making it more or less a singleton, you'll have only one database connection, right?12:10
DinaBelovajd__, actually I'd love to ask you to reassign https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/ceilometer-py33-support to me :)12:11
DinaBelovaas it was created for a while ago - without any changes from author..12:11
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jd__sileht: that's what I'd do because I think it'd be cleaner to have a dict() as cache and you'd use the connection URL as the key and the Connection instance as a value, but maybe I miss something… it's probably doable easily with a cache decorator from oslo or dogpile.cache even maybe :)12:12
jd__DinaBelova: well you'll never succeed entirely for now to complete that blueprint, but we can start gating some part of our code against py33 :)12:12
DinaBelovajd__, we have several dependencies python 3 issues - not so bad as it's described on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Python3 , but  still eventlet, mysql-python, sphinxcontrib-docbookrestapi (tests only), sphinxcontrib-httpdomain (tests only), sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme (tests only), sqlalchemy-migrate, swift (tests only), thrift (which is blocking happybase) do not support py312:13
DinaBelovajd__, hehe, that's true too :D12:13
DinaBelovajd__, /me in process of finding out how can we reach this :)12:14
jd__eventlet is the biggest blocker but it's being taken care of12:15
jd__so what you're doing right now is a good start anyway12:15
jd__we just want to be sure we don't regress so enabling some gating would be great12:15
DinaBelovajd__, may you set your mark here one more time? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109925/ - some fix was made12:15
jd__because what you're doing already has been done a year ago or so, but we keep adding more code that's not tested so we regress12:15
DinaBelovajd__, of course!12:15
DinaBelovajd__, that's the usual problem here :(12:15
jd__yeah that's why I'd insist on gating on some part where we can12:16
jd__if you don't try to do that, you're more or less wasting time :(12:16
DinaBelovajd__, I'll say what we can do here in next few days - just some research needed12:16
DinaBelovaanyway, gating is my aim here as well12:17
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DinaBelovajd__, I may impl some hacking checks (locally or in the hacking directly, need to decide what's better) for the python 2 -> movement - https://github.com/openstack-dev/hacking/blob/master/hacking/checks/python23.py - for the wrong for the compatibility syntax - I guess in our case (where we cannot just create py33 env and be happy because of py3 incompatible deps) it's the best solution12:43
DinaBelovajd__, what do you think about that?12:43
DinaBelovajd__, hacking allows to define some local checks to be run - like Sahara folks did that - https://github.com/openstack/sahara/blob/master/sahara/utils/hacking/checks.py#L3412:44
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jd__DinaBelova: I think you want to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107985/13:14
jd__DinaBelova: we should not have to define any local check for that, they should be hacking if any is missing13:15
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DinaBelovajd__,yes, but after I'll have the opportunity to show the change to the stackforge opentsdb client13:15
jd__DinaBelova: also you can have a different set of requirements for Ceilometer under py33 for the matter of testing at least13:15
jd__I'll try to come with a first patch13:15
jd__DinaBelova: just click on abandon and set the new review as a comment?13:15
DinaBelovajd__, it was the idea, but I may do that now :)13:16
DinaBelovadone13:16
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DinaBelovajd__, do you mean different requirements for the py33 check? like test-requirements-py3.txt ?13:19
jd__DinaBelova: yes13:19
DinaBelovaa-ha, cool13:19
jd__I'm building a first patch as a placeholder so we can add more13:19
DinaBelovaokay, cool :)13:19
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eglynn-lunchamalagon: o/13:35
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amalagoneglynn-lunch: o/13:35
eglynnamalagon: 1:1 time?13:36
amalagoneglynn: yes! going off channel13:36
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jd__test_utils should almost work against py33 once your iteritems patch is merged DinaBelova13:46
jd__I'm waiting for it and I'll send my patch13:47
DinaBelovajd__, a-ha!13:47
DinaBelovacool13:47
jd__can I have a +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109955/ eglynn or ildikov or sileht or gordc ?13:47
* jd__ puppy eyes13:47
* DinaBelova Shrek cat eyes as well13:48
* sileht take a look13:50
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gordcsileht: noooo. beat me to it.13:52
sileht:)13:52
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eglynnjd__: your puppy eyes possess untold powers, already approved by the time I looked ;)13:54
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jd__thanks eglynn, I'll try to remember that in other situations13:56
jd__:-D13:56
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silehtjd__, About https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97847/, I think this is a vocable issue, the Connection class should not be called Connection but Driver, I want to cache the real db connection not the driver instance to share it between the alarm driver and the metering driver, that make more sense ?13:57
jd__what the hell is vocable issue13:58
jd__but yeah I just got what you meant13:58
jd__I forgot we split the alarm and metering in two classes13:58
silehts/vocable/vocabulary/g13:58
jd__sileht: ok last question, isn't there a memoize like decorator in oslo we could use rather than our own class?13:59
silehtjd__, hum, I will check if I can do that14:00
jd__sileht: ok let me know otherwise I'll +214:00
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openstackgerritChris Dent proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix dict and set order related issues in tests  https://review.openstack.org/10999414:14
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_nadya_sileht: hi!  I have a question for a long time :) The idea of different db for alarms and samples - is it needed for anyone in production? how it can be used? I'm just asking, to understand use cases14:35
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sileht_nadya_, just want to have alarm in sql and samples in mongo, but in the future, I will publish samples to gnocchi too and I can choose configure alarming to query gnocchi instead of the samples databases to make the alarm evaluation14:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Replace dict.iteritems() with six.iteritems(dict)  https://review.openstack.org/10995514:45
_nadya_sileht: ok, I see. tnx :)14:47
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sileht_nadya_, the gnocchi dispatcher https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109581/1/specs/juno/alarms-gnocchi-integration.rst14:47
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sileht_nadya_, the schema L114 is clear14:48
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PLWagHi, I'm kind of new with Ceilometer. I'm trying to add new meters for my instances in Openstack and get the information from it. What I would like to do is add the memory meter. I did try to add the new meter with sample-create but I don't want to enter a --sample-volume value. I did also try to add a new meter directly in the MySQL database. I guess this is not the way to go. At least when I enter "ceilometer meter-list" I can see that the memory15:17
PLWag meter is in the list. But when I create a new instance, I cannot get the memory information with sample-list. Thanks for you're help! Pierre-Luc15:17
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nsajePLWag: the 'memory' meter should already exist, if you're using one of the hypervisors that support it (check http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/measurements.html)15:37
eglynn_PLWag: yep, just as nsaje says, you shouldn't have to submit samples for this meter manually yourself15:38
eglynn_PLWag: instead samples are gathered by the ceilometer compute agent if the hypervisor supports it15:39
eglynn_PLWag: check the syntax of you samples/statistics query if you're seeing the meter listed with meter-list, but not seeing any actual samples15:39
PLWagalright, thanks to you! I will check this out15:41
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove --tmpdir from mktemp  https://review.openstack.org/11002615:42
openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Enable some tests against py33  https://review.openstack.org/11002715:42
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eglynn_amalagon: just to clarify, that invite is for 16:00UTC on thurs?16:13
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amalagoneglynn_: is that the right time after the team meeting?16:14
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eglynn_amalagon: yeap, cool (zimbra has a habit of misunderstanding the daylight savings offset of external invites)16:15
eglynn_... seems it got it right in this case16:15
amalagon+1 for zimbra in this case16:15
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openstackgerritPhil Neal proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: PaaS Event Format for Ceilometer Collection  https://review.openstack.org/10196716:28
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eglynn_nsaje, sileht: hmmm, are declaring white smoke on the oslo-messaging fake driver fixes?16:29
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eglynn_nsaje, sileht: note the line up between the 1.3.1 release date https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.messaging/1.3.1 with this pattern in logstash http://bit.ly/test-coordination-presence-failures16:30
nealpheglynn_: FYI, have wrapped up changes to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101967/16, including edits to LBaaS reference. Thanks for the comments there...16:33
eglynn_nealph: refresh your browser :)16:34
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eglynn_nealph: quick related question - will you have bandwidth to implement in the juno-3 timeframe?16:34
* nealph apparently watches his gerrit notifications with less determination than eglynn. :)16:35
eglynn_nealph: LOL :)16:35
nealpheglynn_: Yes, I expect so.16:35
eglynn_nealph: excellent, thank you sir!16:35
eglynn_jd__: were you intending to file a juno-3 BP in LP corresponding to https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer-specs/blob/master/specs/juno/gnocchi.rst ?16:38
eglynn_(... as discussed at the team meeting last week)16:38
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eglynn_gordc: hey, just wondering if you're planning an new patchset for big-data-sql-part-deux ... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101009/616:42
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: rm Sample info in Resource obj metadata; Closes Bug #1348651  https://review.openstack.org/10959816:47
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silehteglynn_, good news :)16:58
nsajeeglynn_: yay for the nice pattern :)16:58
eglynn_sileht, nsaje: yep, same kinda of pattern for the other logstash queries I tried for the related test failures16:59
eglynn_sileht, nsaje: ... so, nice work guys!16:59
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gordceglynn_: sure. i'll write one up later today17:08
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jd__eglynn_: no, only ildikov on the collector aspect17:19
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openstackgerritEric Pendergrass proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove Sample data from Resource metadata field  https://review.openstack.org/10959817:31
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Fix aggregator flush method  https://review.openstack.org/9717617:33
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eglynn_gordc: thanks!17:37
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openstackgerritBrad Topol proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Debug env for tox  https://review.openstack.org/10990318:59
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add notifications for identity CRUD events  https://review.openstack.org/10961619:13
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11009619:33
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/10657219:39
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Remove --tmpdir from mktemp  https://review.openstack.org/11002619:41
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/11009619:47
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Don't override the original notification message  https://review.openstack.org/10962920:18
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed a change to openstack/pycadf: Do not depend on endpoint id existing in the service catalog  https://review.openstack.org/10906020:19
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer-specs: PaaS Event Format for Ceilometer Collection  https://review.openstack.org/10196720:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Correct misspelled words  https://review.openstack.org/10697720:42
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Make the error message of alarm-not-found clear  https://review.openstack.org/10306920:42
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Replace assertTrue with assertIsNotNone for check an object  https://review.openstack.org/8276420:43
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: 'big-data' sql part 2  https://review.openstack.org/10100921:16
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer-specs: 'big-data' sql part 2  https://review.openstack.org/10100921:34
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openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor filter code in sql backend  https://review.openstack.org/11015122:36
openstackgerritgordon chung proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: refactor filter code in sql backend  https://review.openstack.org/11015122:36
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