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| Manish__ | Hi... | 05:44 |
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| Manish__ | I was looking into Ceilometer integration with SWIFT | 05:44 |
| Manish__ | I have one query here, does SWIFT has support for "Notification bus" for ceilometer? Or polling mechanism is the only option available till now? | 05:46 |
| Manish__ | Can someone help me here? | 05:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused db code due to api v1 drop https://review.openstack.org/93829 | 06:04 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex https://review.openstack.org/88506 | 06:06 |
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| yatin | Hi Folks | 06:16 |
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| ondergetekende | Hi. | 06:17 |
| yatin | want to contribute to ceilometer, but currently struggling with ceilometer jargons | 06:17 |
| ondergetekende | I'm not a core developer either, but I have a reasonable understanding of the jargon. | 06:18 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: hi | 06:18 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: i'm puttig nova quota usage into notification queue | 06:19 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: and able to get them at ceilometer-collector service | 06:19 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: under process_notification | 06:19 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: funcationality which i want to implement in ceilometer | 06:19 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: flag the admin about quota usage when 80% quota usage limit reached | 06:20 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: so, admin can make any arrangement if any | 06:21 |
| ondergetekende | Tounds like the alarms functionality to me. | 06:21 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: i thought alarms, but not sure, how do i reach there from notifications | 06:21 |
| ondergetekende | Alarms are typically done independent of the nova quotae | 06:22 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: i'm seeing collector serivce.py process_notification(), which goes to compute/notifications.py | 06:22 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: ok | 06:22 |
| ondergetekende | Say you'd have a 10 CPU quota, you'd set an 8 CPU alarm. | 06:22 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: ok | 06:23 |
| ondergetekende | Ceilometer just gets its measurements the 'normal way', and then triggers the alarms when it feels like it. | 06:23 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: so i have to configure alarm, right? | 06:23 |
| ondergetekende | I suppose so. | 06:24 |
| ondergetekende | I haven't done that myself, so I don't know the details. | 06:24 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: collector service, how it will be able to handle to alarm, is it alarm evalutor serivce? | 06:25 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: sorry about typo. how data flow from collector to alarm | 06:25 |
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| yatin | ondergetekende: i'm stuck on data flow, where to go ahead from collector service...so data reach alarm | 06:27 |
| ondergetekende | I'm not sure. The agent will send usage notification to the collector, which somehow triggers the alarm evaluators. | 06:27 |
| ondergetekende | The alarm evaluators may then send an alarm notification. | 06:28 |
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| yatin | ondergetekende: alarm evaluators - will check this | 06:28 |
| yatin | ondergetekende: thanks for the hints :) | 06:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Koert van der Veer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implemented metering for Cinder's snapshots https://review.openstack.org/92365 | 07:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mitsuru Kanabuchi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Split bunch of samples into multiple messages https://review.openstack.org/94155 | 09:21 |
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| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: good morning sir! | 09:56 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: ... sorry to be a pest, but I wonder could I get some love for https://review.openstack.org/94044 ? | 09:56 |
| eglynn | (creating new ceilo-specs repo, /me is expecting a bunch of post-summit BPs this week, so it would be great to have the repo in flight) | 09:57 |
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| pnascimento | hello everyone, I would like to ask you about something about development on Ceilometer project, anyone here available to help me, please? thanks in advance :) | 10:06 |
| pnascimento | So, I'm interested on develop some new agents and transformers I would like some help with that, I have already read http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/index.html and more specifically about agents on http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/contributing/plugins.html | 10:22 |
| pnascimento | my question/thought, if I need or want to create a new agent, I need to create a new folder 'newAgent/' and inside create 'manager.py' that inherits from ceilometer.agent.AgentManager and declare only the 'def __init__(self)' method, and after that create a 'plugin.py' that inherits from ceilometer.plugin.PollsterBase, and create a 'pollsters/' folder with every pollster for this agent? | 10:23 |
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| pnascimento | I think, I'm not the only one with this kind of question, because: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/7611/how-to-create-a-new-agent-that-communicates-with-ceilometer/ | 10:45 |
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| eglynn | pnascimento: still there? | 11:09 |
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| admin0 | hey all | 11:39 |
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| yatin | eglynn: Hi | 11:52 |
| eglynn | yatin: hi | 11:53 |
| yatin | eglynn: i'm new to ceilometer, want to contribute regarding quota usage | 11:53 |
| eglynn | yatin: welcome! | 11:54 |
| yatin | eglynn: i'm not sure, how do i go about it | 11:54 |
| yatin | eglynn: i'm able to get quota usage on notification.info queue | 11:54 |
| yatin | eglynn: on collector service | 11:54 |
| eglynn | yatin: well there are two orthogonal directions you could take here | 11:55 |
| yatin | eglynn: quota usage is per tenent, if reached 80% above, want to notify cloud admin | 11:55 |
| eglynn | yatin: 1. exposing the internal quotas of the individual services via ceilometer | 11:56 |
| eglynn | yatin: 2. implementing quota-like limitations *within* ceilometer | 11:56 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... the latter was discussed briefly at summit last week, WRT to custom metrics in the new v3 API | 11:57 |
| yatin | eglynn: can you describe more on point 1, like instance quota, the data flow | 11:57 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... personally, #2 seems like a more useful thing to me | 11:58 |
| yatin | eglynn: for #2. what i need to look into, in ceilometer prespective | 11:59 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... so quotas are largely an internal concern for the individual services such as nova, cinder, glance | 11:59 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... so for #1 I'd be concerned with for example exposing the quota pre-reservation mechanism via ceilo | 12:00 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... as that is largely an internal implementation concern for nova etc. | 12:00 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... also there have been known edge cases where the recorded quota usages in nova falls out of synch with reality | 12:01 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... and there's a partial self-healing mechanism in place to address those cases in extremis (for example when the purported usage falls below zero) | 12:01 |
| yatin | eglynn: ok | 12:02 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... for #2, start by familiarizing yourself with the planned v3 API | 12:02 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... this is being prototyped currently as the gnocchi project | 12:02 |
| yatin | eglynn: ok | 12:03 |
| yatin | eglynn: the flow to metering quota usages will start from collector service? | 12:03 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... some notes on discussion of v3/gnocchi last week at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-tsdaas | 12:04 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... were you at ATL? | 12:04 |
| yatin | eglynn: Nope | 12:04 |
| yatin | eglynn: :( | 12:04 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... well as I said above, this would using quota-like restrictions *within* ceilometer itself | 12:05 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... for example to limite the number of metric datapoints a user could push into gnocchi | 12:05 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... as opposed to exposing the internal details of nova quotas within ceilometer | 12:05 |
| eglynn | yatin: (... which as I explained above, is of less value IMO) | 12:06 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... makes sense? | 12:06 |
| yatin | eglynn: i guess, i need to look into gnocchi to understand what you are talking about | 12:08 |
| eglynn | yatin: sounds good ... thanks for your interest, and welcome on board! | 12:08 |
| yatin | eglynn: all i can understand, internal data from openstack service, will not be directly handle by ceilometer, correct me if i am wrong | 12:08 |
| eglynn | yatin: *any* data that can be retrived by from the openstack services *can* be handled by ceilometer | 12:09 |
| * yatin checking etherpad | 12:10 | |
| eglynn | yatin: ... this includes data relating to quotas for example | 12:10 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... the question is whether it makes sense to meter this ceilometer | 12:10 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... if the service *itself* already provides a well-understood way of accessing the current state of quota usages | 12:11 |
| yatin | eglynn: that's right, but i want to alert before quota limit reached | 12:12 |
| yatin | eglynn: and not require to meter quota, its like event as and when resource is consumed | 12:13 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... OK such alerts may have *some* potential value, though I would caution checking whether those edge-cases with quota mis-accounting in nova have all been resolved | 12:13 |
| yatin | eglynn: i should check about quota mis-accounting, | 12:14 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... here's an example bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1202896 | 12:14 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... that one is pretty old, so perhaps the recorded quota usages are now more reliable | 12:15 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... you'll need to check, as alerting on unreliable state is badness | 12:15 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... then you'll need to propose a blueprint | 12:16 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... I'm working on a new process for blueprint oversight & approval | 12:16 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... for now you'll need to write up something based on this template | 12:16 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... https://github.com/eglynn/ceilometer-specs/blob/master/specs/template.rst | 12:17 |
| yatin | eglynn: yes, i know, the process has changed for submitting blueprint | 12:17 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... we're waiting on the new ceilometer-specs repo to be created by infra: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94044/ | 12:18 |
| yatin | eglynn: i also want to know implemetation side, about pipeline and publisher, how they work with collector | 12:18 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... have you read the docs? | 12:18 |
| yatin | eglynn: yes, read the architecture doc | 12:18 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... briefly: | 12:19 |
| yatin | eglynn: but not able to follow code in compute/notification.py, process_notification() | 12:19 |
| yatin | eglynn: yes, read some blogs, also code comments. | 12:19 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... the pipeline defines polling intervals, data source-to-sink associations, transformation rules | 12:19 |
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| eglynn | yatin: ... the publisher transports the sample datapoints from the originating agent to the collector | 12:20 |
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| eglynn | yatin: ... the collector persists the samples in the metering store | 12:20 |
| yatin | eglynn: are you say, cfg.CONF.collector.store_events, on metering store | 12:21 |
| yatin | eglynn: i'm able to follow upto sample object created in _process_notification_for_ext() collector/service.py, but what happens next | 12:22 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... what version of the code are you looking at? | 12:24 |
| yatin | eglynn: stable/havana | 12:24 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... ok that's your first mistake ;) | 12:25 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... _process_notification_for_ext() doesn't exist on master any more | 12:25 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... not since the oslo-messaging switchover | 12:26 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... so *all* new features *must* be landed on master | 12:26 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... stable/icehouse is for backporting selected bugfixes *only* | 12:27 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... stable/havana will be EoL'd for for all but security fixes soon enough | 12:27 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... so you should concentrate on master in terms of familiarization | 12:27 |
| eglynn | yatin: ... makes sense? | 12:27 |
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| yatin | eglynn: yes | 12:28 |
| eglynn | yatin: cool | 12:28 |
| yatin | eglynn: got some good inputs from you. thanks :) | 12:28 |
| eglynn | yatin: np! | 12:28 |
| eglynn | right-o, all this typing makes a man hungry ... /me scurries off to forage for food ;) | 12:29 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, hey, just woke up (we're on west cost still) | 13:47 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: i'm here now (but with some connectivity problems, sorry about that) | 13:47 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, sure, I'll take a look | 13:47 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: thank you sir! | 13:48 |
| eglynn | pnascimento: one sec | 13:48 |
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| eglynn | pnascimento: back, so what can I do for you? | 13:53 |
| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, lgtm | 13:54 |
| eglynn | pnascimento: (... in the next 5 mins, I've call at 1400UTC) | 13:54 |
| eglynn | SergeyLukjanov: thank you again sir! :) | 13:54 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | eglynn, no problem:) | 13:55 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: if you are too busy, we can schedule a kind of a "meeting" here? | 13:55 |
| eglynn | pnascimento: ... what's your TZ? | 13:55 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: I need some guidance on ceilometer development | 13:56 |
| eglynn | pnascimento: ... would 0900 UTC tmrw work for you? | 13:56 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: one moment, I will confirm that | 13:58 |
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| eglynn | anamalagon: welcome! | 14:00 |
| anamalagon | eglynn: hi! | 14:01 |
| eglynn | heads-up folks ... anamalagon has started today as an OPW intern working on a ceilometer-related project over the next 3 months | 14:01 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: unfortunately, tomorrow since 0830 UTC until to 1730 UTC, I will be occupied :/ | 14:01 |
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| eglynn | pnascimento: k, just put your questions in an email ... eglynn@redhat.com | 14:02 |
| pnascimento | eglynn: ok, then I will write them on a email and send it to you, thanks for you availability ;) | 14:04 |
| pnascimento | anamalagon: welcome, and good luck! :) | 14:05 |
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| anamalagon | pnascimento: thanks! | 14:05 |
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| cmart | Hello, I'm new at ceilometer. And I want to "play" with the alarms.. | 14:34 |
| cmart | Is there any integration test that I could run in order to see how it works? | 14:35 |
| cmart | or at least, a fast way to set up an alarm and trigger it? | 14:36 |
| cmart | I have a vm instance running.. What would be the fastest way to set up and to trigger an alarm? | 14:37 |
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| ityaptin | cmart: Hi! Good alarm creating instructions are in http://openstack.redhat.com/CeilometerQuickStart. At point Using alarms. | 14:48 |
| ityaptin | cmart: For fast trigger you may create alarm with metric "instance" and threshold = 1. For examle: "ceilometer alarm-create --threshold 1 --name a -m instance". | 14:51 |
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| ityaptin | cmart: And if you create one instance your alarm triggers. | 14:53 |
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| cmart | ityaptin: Cool! | 15:00 |
| cmart | I'll try that | 15:00 |
| cmart | thanks!!.. | 15:01 |
| cmart | and one more thing.. I'm planning to put as alarm-action the following: --alarm-action 'log://'A_path_that_I_know_on_my_machine" | 15:03 |
| cmart | any docs where I can find how the alarms-actions work? | 15:03 |
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| ityaptin | cmart: I can't remember any docs with it, but in code alarm-actions is list of urls. When alarm triggers, it sends post request to urls in list. | 15:52 |
| cmart | ityaptin: and what about logs? If alarm-action is eq to log, where this "log" will be shown? At ceilometer-alarm-notifier screen? | 15:59 |
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| cmart | I've created two alarms like the ones you said, and I put some breakpoints onf the alarm service file, but I got nothing :S | 16:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eugeniya Kudryashova proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Use HTTPClient from common Oslo code https://review.openstack.org/68939 | 17:52 |
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| cmart | Hello | 20:03 |
| cmart | Does anyone know if the cause why alarmsnotifications are not working is because of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1275771? | 20:03 |
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| cmart | I'm getting this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/80948/ | 20:06 |
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| CristianF | Hi, I need some help for setting intervals for collecting ceilometer metrics.. | 20:30 |
| CristianF | please could anyone offer some advice? thanks. | 20:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Drop deprecated api v1 https://review.openstack.org/93828 | 22:47 |
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