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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8435906:04
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silehtildikov_, the merge of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/78132/ have failed, I have been forced to rebase it manually, if you can retake a look to it, thx in advance.11:54
ildikov_sileht: sure, I'm already looking11:56
ildikov_sileht: I posted a coment on it, that function call is not needed, as I refactored the way how it works and it was merged an hour ago11:59
ildikov_sileht: sorry for making one more turnaround with this patch, I promise there will not be more, at least not because of me :)12:01
silehtildikov_, good catch !12:08
silehtildikov_, fixed12:08
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ildikov_sileht: thanks for the fix, the patch is on its way to the gate now :)12:28
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eglynnjd__: can you take another look at this unflattening hackery if you get a chance ... https://review.openstack.org/8599014:02
eglynn(... /me eager to get it landed on master so I can backport to milestone-proposed)14:02
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jd__done14:04
eglynnjd__: thank you sir!14:05
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nprivalovaeglynn:14:10
eglynnnprivalova:14:10
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eglynn;)14:10
nprivalovaeglynn: hi :) about 85990...14:11
eglynnnprivalova: shoot!14:11
nprivalovaeglynn: 1st question: user may post 'complex' metadata now?14:12
nprivalovaeglynn: I mean dict of dicts14:12
eglynnnprivalova: yeah, so the requirement came from a user on the ML who wanted to POST samples for a custom metric and base autoscaling decisions on those data14:13
eglynnnprivalova: ... membership of an autoscaling group is represented by user_metadata on the instance14:13
eglynnnprivalova: ... which is nested within the resource_metadata14:13
nprivalovaeglynn: please take a look on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85990/5/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py line 64014:14
nprivalovaeglynn: so our validation allows to post only {a:b} and nothing more complex14:14
eglynnnprivalova: do you mean: resource_metadata = {wtypes.text: wtypes.text} ?14:14
nprivalovaeglynn: yep14:14
eglynnnprivalova: yeah so that constraint is maintained14:14
eglynnnprivalova: the user POSTs the nested data in flattened form14:15
eglynnnprivalova: since that's already the "externalized" format for resource metadata'14:15
eglynnnprivalova: see for example the test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85990/5/ceilometer/tests/api/v2/test_post_samples_scenarios.py14:15
nprivalovaeglynn: ok. yep, the second question is about the test :)14:16
nprivalovaeglynn: this test is not for dict of dicts too, right? only one-dimention?14:17
eglynnnprivalova: sorry distracted with internal chatter14:20
nprivalovaeglynn: let me try to explain my concerns...it's in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85990/5/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py line 56614:20
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eglynnnprivalova: k, the test asserts that a pre-flattened version of a nested dict can be POST'd14:20
eglynnnprivalova: is this comment correct? output now: a.b.c=d14:22
eglynnnprivalova: (as opposed to "output before: a.b:c=d")14:22
nprivalovaeglynn: yep, but to keep compatibility we change it back14:22
eglynnnprivalova: arggh, really?14:22
nprivalovaeglynn: yep14:22
eglynnsad face14:23
eglynnnprivalova: change it back when?14:23
nprivalovaeglynn: sorry( Gordon and me wanted to change API output but I get -214:23
eglynnnprivalova: ...  before returning the sample with metadata?14:23
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Sync oslo-incubator code  https://review.openstack.org/7813214:24
nprivalovaeglynn: but! if we are using 1-level deep of dict everything seems to be fine14:25
eglynnnprivalova: yeah one-level is all that's needed for the intended use-case14:25
eglynn... /me mulls a follow-up patch14:26
eglynnnprivalova: I'm not sure which is worse ...14:26
eglynnnprivalova: 1. requiring the caller of POST /v2/meters must know about the special-casing for >1 level of nesting14:27
eglynnnprivalova: or:14:27
eglynnnprivalova: 2. allowing the caller of POST /v2/meters to nest in the natural way a.b.c and then returning a.b:c when the sample is later queried14:28
nprivalovaeglynn: about 1: we don't allow to put >1 level of nesting. Let me thing about the case when user send already 'flatten' data like {'a.b.c':d}14:30
nprivalovaeglynn: {'a.b.c':   'd'}14:30
nprivalovaeglynn: *think14:30
eglynnnprivalova: "we don't allow to put >1 level of nesting" ==> where is that asserted?14:35
nprivalovaeglynn: in validation  resource_metadata = {wtypes.text: wtypes.text}14:35
nprivalovaeglynn: we will get ValidationError if resource_metadata field in POST will be '{ 'a' : {'b': 'c'} }'14:37
nprivalova*is14:37
eglynnnprivalova: but we don't POST { 'a' : {'b': 'c'} }14:38
eglynnnprivalova: instead we POST a flattened form14:38
eglynnnprivalova: ... resource_metadata = {'a.b': 'c'}14:38
eglynnnprivalova: ... which passes validation14:38
nprivalovaeglynn: yep, agreed...14:39
nprivalovaeglynn: let me write one test to check something14:40
eglynnnprivalova: ... so are you proposing that we accept resource_metadata = {'a.b': 'foo'} but not resource_metadata = {'a.b.c': 'foobar'} ?14:40
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nprivalovaeglynn: no. I'm still finding solution14:42
eglynnnprivalova: k14:42
eglynnnprivalova: ... is there an existing test that asserts the a.b:c=d versus a.b.c=d logic in the response from 'GET /v2/meters/foo'?14:44
nprivalovaeglynn: yep...Let me 1 sec14:44
eglynnnprivalova: cool enough14:44
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nprivalovaeglynn: e.g. tests.api.v2.test_list_meters_scenarios.TestListMeters.test_list_samples_with_dict_metadata14:50
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eglynnnprivalova: so we already have a pretty bad inconsistency there ...14:54
eglynnnprivalova: ... in the sense that the metadata query must be expressed with the nested property identified as metadata.properties.prop_2.sub_prop_114:54
nprivalovaeglynn: yep, it was my first bug in Ceilometer :)14:54
eglynnnprivalova: ... i.e. no colon, periods all the way thru' in the query.field14:55
eglynnnprivalova: ... ah, nostalgia! :)14:55
eglynnnprivalova: whereas in the response to the metadata query, we returned "properties.prop_2:sub_prop_1" in the actual sample14:57
nprivalovaeglynn: I can suggest two solutions... 1. remove https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85990/5/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py line 578 about replace. But in this case we change API output. All tests should be changed14:57
eglynnnprivalova: so a matches b, where a != b14:57
nprivalovaeglynn: yep14:57
eglynnnprivalova: so given that currently when the user needs to specify nested metadata in an API call, they do so with periods through-out14:58
eglynnnprivalova: (i.e. that case arises when the user is making a metadata query)14:58
eglynnnprivalova: ... then I think we should allow them to use the same form to specify nested metadata when POSTing samples14:59
eglynnnprivalova: ... otherwise we'd have to require that incoming nested metadata was expressed in two different ways by the API caller14:59
eglynnnprivalova: ... does my reasoning above make sense?15:00
nprivalovaeglynn: 2. Add one more hack like before if k not in metadata:  k.replace('.', ':').replace(':', '.', 1) before line 578 . Let me read you suggestions above :)15:01
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nprivalovaeglynn: I don't think we should make user think about our 'broken' format... We should make only one thing now: if user provides flattened structure we should retun it just in the same way. So if POST '{a.b.c: d}' => '{a.b.c: d}' after GET, if '{a.b$whatever_separator$c: d}' the same should be returned15:08
nprivalovaeglynn: so in 578 we should NOT do replacing in key if metadata dict contains this key. what do you think?15:09
pradnprivalova: what you think of my suggestion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/84438/3 .. is that an acceptable balance? basically keep the None checks for image ref (As its needed) and remove it for instance name and status15:09
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eglynnnprivalova: hmmm, are you suggesting that we support BOTH {'a.b.c': 'foo'} AND {'a.b:c': 'foo'} to represent {'a': {'b': {'c': 'foo'}}} in POST'd samples?15:11
nprivalovaprad, I will take a look now15:12
nprivalovaeglynn: no. In the case you described we return only  {'a.b:c': 'foo'}. But in the case of POST {'a.b.c': 'foo'} we return {'a.b.c': 'foo'} and in case of {'a.b:c': 'foo'} we return {'a.b:c': 'foo'}15:13
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nprivalovaeglynn: now in case of POST {'a.b.c': 'foo'} we return POST {'a.b:c': 'foo'}. it's wrong15:14
eglynnnprivalova: "in the case of POST {'a.b.c': 'foo'} we return {'a.b.c': 'foo'}" ==> are you talking about the immediate response from the POST?15:14
eglynnnprivalova: ... or the response to a subsequent GET?15:15
nprivalovaeglynn: after GET of course15:15
eglynnnprivalova: I confused as to how that could ever work15:16
eglynnnprivalova: ... as we don't maintain the distinction in the stored representation15:16
eglynnnprivalova: ... the nested metadata is stored as {'a': {'b': {'c': 'foo'}}} regardless of how it was POST'd15:16
eglynnnprivalova: ... or?15:17
eglynnnprivalova: ... i.e. how would be remember that the original POST'd form was {'a.b:c': 'foo'} as opposed to {'a.b.c': 'foo'}15:17
eglynnhow would *we remember15:18
nprivalovaeglynn: I believe that if user POSTs {'a.b.c': 'foo'} we store it it the same way. don't convert to {'a': {'b': {'c': 'foo'}}}15:19
eglynnnprivalova: ... no, the whole point of that patch is to unwind POST {'a.b.c': 'foo'} to {'a': {'b': {'c': 'foo'}}} prior to storage15:19
eglynnnprivalova: ... otherwise the 'a.b.c' fails to be persisted in mongo15:20
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Allowed nested resource metadata in POST'd samples  https://review.openstack.org/8599015:20
eglynnnprivalova: ... (because of the embedded '.' in the key)15:21
eglynnnprivalova: ... were you referring to the situation *prior* to the patch just landed?15:21
nprivalovaeglynn: prior patch. Now I understand your question "are you suggesting that we support BOTH {'a.b.c': 'foo'} AND {'a.b:c': 'foo'} to represent {'a': {'b': {'c': 'foo'}}} in POST'd samples"15:22
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eglynnnprivalova: but prior to the patch, *nothing* is persisted in mongo when the user POSTs nested metadata15:23
jd__eglynn: I think you can push the backport now15:24
eglynnjd__: yep I'm on it15:24
nprivalovaeglynn: let me try to provide specific example from your patch15:25
eglynnjd__: ... https://review.openstack.org/8606115:26
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include instance state in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/8443815:46
nprivalovaeglynn: cannot quick create a test with both post_json and get_json in one test. But I think I've understood your change better. So looks like we should provide additional info in docs... I think you are right about format in POST. We may require that nested structures should be separated by '.'. But from the other hand we always returns in a.b:c format after GET :( And it should be in docs too15:51
eglynnnprivalova: at least now there's some kind of consistency ...15:52
eglynnnprivalova: 1. user-specified flattening ==> periods throughout15:52
eglynnnprivalova: 2. API-returned flattening ==>periods for initial levels, colon for last level if > 115:53
nprivalovaeglynn: yep. are we going to have APIv3 :)?15:53
eglynnnprivalova: I think the weight of the accreted cruft in v2 is gonna force that upon us sooner rather than later15:54
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nprivalovaeglynn: thanks for discussion, sorry about this metadata stuff but it's really nightmare and I wanted to be sure that it is not becoming even worst15:58
eglynnnprivalova: well thank you! ... you've opened my eyes to some of the madness that lurks beneath the surface15:59
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include instance state in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/8443816:22
openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Include instance state in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/8443816:24
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Ensure instance.image is not None  https://review.openstack.org/8608516:38
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openstackgerritPradeep Kilambi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Set appropriate metadata image value  https://review.openstack.org/8608517:39
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Include instance state in metadata  https://review.openstack.org/8443820:01
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VetalllHi guys. I am new in ceilometer, and would like to work with you20:13
VetalllI  started with a little patch, and i would like to ask you - could you check it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85560/ ?20:14
VetalllAlso i have a question. I think we can use custom assertion for all objects which have  length20:15
VetalllI need your opinion about this.20:16
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Exit collector service if no dispatcher available  https://review.openstack.org/8615520:52
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openstackgerritZhiQiang Fan proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Disable specifying alarm itself in combination rule  https://review.openstack.org/8618122:31
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