Friday, 2014-02-28

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openstackgerritDazhao Yu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Make sure use IPv6 sockets for ceilometer in IPv6 environment  https://review.openstack.org/6778603:18
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/7676206:10
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openstackgerritKiyohiro Adachi proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused variable  https://review.openstack.org/7709207:32
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openstackgerritNadya Privalova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Alarm support in HBase Part 1  https://review.openstack.org/7401908:51
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openstackgerritNadya Privalova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Alarms support in HBase Part 2  https://review.openstack.org/7402009:06
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openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implements "not" operator for complex query  https://review.openstack.org/6689209:32
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implements metadata query for complex query feature  https://review.openstack.org/6689109:32
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llueglynn: jd__: if you have time, would you please review the i3 bp https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/monitoring-physical-devices,n,z ? I've got +2 from gordc and several +1 from others. Thanks guys09:49
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eglynnllu: sorry, this has been on my TODO list all week ... I'll look right now09:49
llueglynn: thanks.09:50
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lluif there is any issues, i'll address them tonight or during the weekend. Have to take the shuttle now.09:51
openstackgerritBalazs Gibizer proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Implements "not" operator for complex query  https://review.openstack.org/6689209:54
openstackgerritNejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adds time constraints to alarms [WIP]  https://review.openstack.org/7539109:56
eglynnllu: cool09:57
openstackgerritNejc Saje proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Adds time constraints to alarms  https://review.openstack.org/7539109:59
openstackgerritPiyush Masrani proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Memory  https://review.openstack.org/7470210:03
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: storage: bases of a Cassandra driver  https://review.openstack.org/6277910:23
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jd__sileht: are you going to have https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/switch-to-oslo.messaging merged by Tuesday?10:30
silehtjd__, I have lost my hope :(10:30
silehtjd__, I have to send a new patch on the oslo.messaging part... before10:32
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silehtjd__, and both are even pending10:33
jd__ok10:33
jd__I'll postpone it for J10:33
* sileht is sad10:34
openstackgerritPiyush Masrani proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Changes for cpu_util  https://review.openstack.org/7617710:39
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eglynnjd__, sileht: would be worth persuing oslo-messaging as an FFE for icehouse?11:01
eglynnsileht: ... i.e. is it close enough that say another week would get it over the line?11:02
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jd__eglynn: does not look like that11:06
jd__we need patches merged, a release, etc11:06
eglynnjd__: do you mean patches merged and a release on the oslo side?11:07
eglynn... /me is concerned with the maintenance implications of sticking with the old deprecated common RPC layer for the J cycle11:10
eglynn... will ceilo be the only project that hasn't made the switch over?11:11
openstackgerritNadya Privalova proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Make recording and scanning data more determined  https://review.openstack.org/7590811:13
silehteglynn, yes we needs a release of oslo.messaging, the actual one lack of features needed by ceilometer11:24
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eglynnsileht: the olso messaging folks seem to be banging out releases fairly frequently11:28
eglynnsileht: ... if I'm interpreting these tags correctly https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging/tags11:28
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eglynni.e. gives the impression of being similarly lightweight to say a python-*client release, could be cut at any time decoupled from the main release cycle11:29
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eglynnjd__: I'm just wondering if we could arm-twist the oslo guys to do a release containing sileht's fixes, would the ceilo-side switchover be valid candidate for an FFE?11:31
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silehteglynn, yes but we needs a consensus with oslo.messaging core (ie: markmc) about the notification listener API before the release, to not break it just after the release for ceilometer11:33
eglynnsileht: is that notification listener API currently being discussed on gerrit, or the ML?11:35
silehteglynn, on gerrit11:35
silehteglynn, most of the API looks good, but timestamp and message_id are missing in the data passed to application callback, and ceilometer needs that11:36
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eglynnsileht: k, which of these reviews specifically https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.messaging,n,z ?11:37
eglynnsileht: ... I just want to be fully apraised of the background before attempting to lean on markmc11:38
silehteglynn, the one about the application callback have been merged some days ago, but with the timestamp/message_id, markmc ask me to remove it and propose an other patchset11:39
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* sileht dig into the past11:40
silehteglynn, the merged one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57275/17/oslo/messaging/notify/dispatcher.py L8111:42
silehteglynn, the code around L56 from previous patchset https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57275/9/oslo/messaging/notify/dispatcher.py needs to be resubmitted11:42
silehteglynn, abd this is only one the pending issue, the requeue patch for event is not yet merged,11:43
silehteglynn, and I have waiting comments about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75365/ to remove this crap in ceilometer: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57457/22/ceilometer/publisher/rpc.py11:45
eglynnsileht: k, so say we got that extras dict with the message_id and timestamp restored into the dispatch, *and* the requeueing landed11:46
eglynnsileht: ... would that be sufficient to unblock the ceilo switchover as an FFE for icehouse?11:47
eglynnsileht: ... there are a few "if"s there outside our control (releasing oslo-messaging, granting an FFE) but let's assume for a second that could be done11:47
silehteglynn, and the one that add the 'rpc retries' https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75365/11:48
eglynnsileht: ... k, I'll raise those 3 issues, and the need for an oslo-messaging release with markmc11:49
eglynnsileht: ... if he's agreeable, then we can consider whether to beg for an icehouse FFE11:50
eglynnsileht: ... does that sound reasonable?11:50
silehteglynn, why not11:51
eglynnsileht: cool11:51
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silehteglynn, FYI, just push the new proposal for the extra dict https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77136/11:52
eglynnsileht: cool, thanks!11:53
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eglynnsileht: markmc is on the road today, but I've dropped him an email in any case12:14
eglynn(we can decide about begging an FFE for the ceilo changes depending on whether mark thinks the oslo-messaging tasks are feasible within the typical timeframe of an FFE)12:15
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jd__I'm a bit worried asking for a FFE or something that important merged on the last minute12:16
jd__even if I'm an adventurer12:17
eglynnjd__: yeah, it's not ideal all right ... but I don't like the idea either of being stuck on the deprecated RPC layer for another cycle12:20
eglynnjd__: I suspect we'd end with something weird like distros carrying the oslo-messaging switchover as an extra patch for their icehouse-derived release12:21
jd__eglynn: like everyone already switched to oslo.messaging?12:22
eglynnjd__: that I don't know, I asked the same question myself earlier12:23
jd__heh12:23
silehtat least, neutron, cinder, heat don't use oslo.messaging12:23
jd__considering the amount of work we brought via sileht into oslo.messaging I don't think it'd be a shame to say we were not able to switch in time12:24
silehtjd__, eglynn, yeah ceilometer doesn't use oslo.messaging like other project12:26
silehtclearly our usecases have been not considered during the beginning of developement of the library12:27
eglynnjd__, sileht: yeah that all makes sense12:27
eglynnjd__, sileht: I had thought being stuck on the deprecated RPC layer would make ceilometer more of an outlier12:28
eglynn... but it sounds like only a minority of other projects have switched over for icehouse, would that be fair to say?12:28
jd__it sounds like it's 50-5012:29
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eglynnjd__: ... k, let's see what markmc comes back with anyway12:30
eglynn(leastways it'll help get the switchover landed  early in the J cycle)12:30
openstackgerritAkhil Hingane proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Performance Mgr APIs  https://review.openstack.org/7380912:31
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eglynnjd__, sileht: FYI the heat folks are very definite they'll be able make the olso-messaging switchover for icehouse12:58
eglynnhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/oslo-messaging12:59
eglynn... also cinder still have a BP targetted https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/oslo-messaging though I don't have a definite status on that12:59
eglynn... so looks like ceilo could be a bit of an outlier if we're stuck on the old RPC layer13:00
openstackgerritAkhil Hingane proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Disk rates  https://review.openstack.org/7657113:05
eglynnjd__, sileht: ... so on that basis I'm swaying back to the FFE idea, if the oslo-messaging side can be unblocked13:07
gibi_eglynn: hi! I responded to your comment with a small change in the metaquery patch. Could you please check it?13:09
eglynngibi_: yep, will do13:10
gibi_eglynn: thanks! btw your selectable aggregate path series looks good to me :)13:10
gibi_s/path/patch/13:11
eglynngibi_: thanks for the +1s!13:11
eglynnjd__, sileht: ... I could potentially help out with the FFE if it was to be requested and granted13:12
gibi_eglynn: I hade only one concerns about the float type for the cardinality but I think we cannot avoid that with wsme13:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Added hardware agent's inspector and snmp implementation  https://review.openstack.org/4307313:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Added hardware pollsters for the central agent  https://review.openstack.org/4307413:13
eglynnllu: \o/ ^^^13:13
eglynngibi_: well the sample counting is currently float also, even though that's always an integer too13:14
gibi_eglynn: It seems to me that the count is defined as int Statistic class in the API13:18
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gibi_https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py#L63713:19
eglynngibi_: yeah, you're right ... I was thinking of the CloudWatch GetMetricStatistics API13:22
eglynn(where the sample count is a double IIRC)13:22
gibi_eglynn: anyhow I don't see it as a problem just want to be sure that it was intentional13:23
eglynn... either way, not a big issue to have unused precision13:23
gibi_I agree13:24
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openstackgerritAlexei Kornienko proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Removed global state modification by api test  https://review.openstack.org/7717313:29
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openstackgerritAkhil Hingane proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Disk rates  https://review.openstack.org/7657113:31
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tongli@eglynn, eoghan, ping14:17
eglynntongli: hi14:17
tonglieglynn, good morning, when you get chance, can you look at the patch sets for the notification alarm?14:18
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eglynntongli: sure, it's on my list for today14:18
tongli@eglynn, great, great, really appreciate it.14:19
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eglynnAlexei_987: hey14:24
eglynnAlexei_987: can you check out my comment on your DEFAULT_CAPABILITIES suggestion: https://review.openstack.org/76273 ?14:24
eglynnAlexei_987: ... /me feels he's missing something14:25
ildikov_tongli: hi. are you around?14:30
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tongli@ildikov_, hi, I am here.14:34
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ildikov_tongli: I created the third patch set of the mongo/db2 refactor, so I added the alarm_change related functions to pymongo_base14:41
ildikov_tongli: I just wanted to ask that will you have time, when we will be over with the I-3 rush to run a test for that patch?14:42
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ildikov_tongli: it would be good to get it landed soon, if it works14:44
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tongli@ildikov_, sorry, was on the phone. yeah. I will try the patch. so is it ready to be tested?14:49
ildikov_tongli: I did not find any specifics in record_alarm_change function as it is one line even in impl_mongo.py and the query should work the same way as for samples or alarms14:50
ildikov_tongli: the second patch with the query functions is already merged14:50
tongli@ildikov_, I mean the 3rd patch.14:51
ildikov_tongli: the only new in queries is the 'in' operator currently, I assume it should work fine with DB2 too14:51
ildikov_tonlgi: yes, I think the third is ready for testing14:51
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tongliso this third one also includes the fixes for the problems that we talked about the other day.14:52
ildikov_tongli: which problem do you mean?14:53
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ildikov_tongli: the boolean value?14:53
tongli@ildikov_, remember I could not do a complex query,14:53
tongli@ildikov_, yes, you said it is because of the boolean value14:53
ildikov_tongli: the boolean value fix is in our metadata query patch14:53
tongli@ildikov_, is it in already?14:54
tongliI mean is it merged?14:54
gibi_tongli: the metadata query has not been merged yet but I hope it will soon.14:56
ildikov_tongli: it is close to be approved, I hope gordc will have a few minutes to recheck this patch, as we made a small change on it regarding to a project-wide metadata handling issue14:56
tongli@ildikov_, i c. ok. thanks. I will look at the 3rd patch set.14:56
ildikov_tongli: ok, thanks14:57
tongli@ildikov_, not a problem, thank you.14:57
tonglihappy Friday.14:57
ildikov_tongli: thanks, it is after a so long week as this one was :), happy Friday to you too :)14:58
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openstackgerritlitong01 proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: test created virtual env directory should git ignored  https://review.openstack.org/7384915:05
openstackgerritlitong01 proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: add notification alarm  https://review.openstack.org/6947315:05
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Alexei_9871eglynn: Hi. I've checked your comments :)15:19
Alexei_9871eglynn: I agree that it may not be so simple to do a 1 line update15:20
Alexei_9871eglynn: However I still think that we should have default capabilities listed somewhere15:20
Alexei_9871eglynn: do you have an idea of how to implement it in a cleaner way? Or you would prefer to go without it?15:20
eglynnAlexei_9871: ... cool enough, would a docstring in the base driver suffice for listing the default capabilities?15:21
Alexei_9871eglynn: I don't think that a docstring could be a solution15:22
Alexei_9871eglynn:  since there is no way to ensure that it's actually up to date15:22
eglynnAlexei_9871: yeah me neither ... or just a full get_capabilities() impl in the base drive returning false for everything15:22
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eglynn(as opposed to an abstract method in the base driver that does nothing)15:23
Alexei_9871yeah but base driver method will never be called15:23
Alexei_9871we'll alway access concrete impl15:23
Alexei_9871and it would only return a subset of capabilities15:24
Alexei_9871and not a full list15:24
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Alexei_9871so a full list won't be accessible15:24
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Alexei_9871eglynn: ^ what do you think?15:25
eglynnAlexei_9871: k, how about I add a recursive nested-dict update method in ceilometer.utils15:26
eglynnAlexei_9871: ... seems like slight over-kill, but what the hey15:27
Alexei_9871eglynn: could be an option.. I'm checking if there is a simpler way to do it15:28
eglynnAlexei_9871: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3232943/update-value-of-a-nested-dictionary-of-varying-depth15:29
eglynnAlexei_9871: ... stackoverflow, the last refuge of the scroundrel ;)15:29
Alexei_9871eglynn: lol just opened the same page :)15:30
Alexei_9871eglynn: IMHO this is good enough for me15:30
Alexei_9871eglynn: not sure what the rest will say15:30
eglynnAlexei_9871: good stuff, I'll update the patch and we'll see15:30
Alexei_9871eglynn: cool :)15:31
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promulohi all, does any of you know if it's possible to use 'orderby' on ceilometer queries using th python bindings?15:59
promuloI mean, is there a way I can get the latest x samples using python and not the CLI?16:00
promulolimit only gives me the oldest ones...16:01
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ildikov_promulo: complex query has 'orderby' and 'limit' support: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/webapi/v2.html#ComplexQuery16:02
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openstackgerritPiyush Masrani proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Memory  https://review.openstack.org/7470216:11
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promuloildikov_: thanks, but... I'm not sure how can I make complex queries using ceilometer python bindings... I know I can put the limit parameter on samples.list() but I don't know if it's possible to put orderby there too16:18
promuloI guess I should use pycurl or something to do that16:18
openstackgerritPiyush Masrani proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Changes for cpu_util  https://review.openstack.org/7617716:20
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ildikov_promulo: sorry, I was interrupted, I do not have much experience with pycurl, I assume it should work16:30
openstackgerritAkhil Hingane proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: VMware vSphere support: Disk rates  https://review.openstack.org/7657116:36
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Pluggable resource discovery for agents  https://review.openstack.org/7500623:12
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Remove unused variable  https://review.openstack.org/7709223:14
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