Wednesday, 2013-12-18

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openstackgerritYuuichi Fujioka proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: (WIP)Implements monitoring-network  https://review.openstack.org/6047301:24
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Add metadata query validation limitation  https://review.openstack.org/6184703:31
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openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/6280806:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Ensure that the user/project exist on alarm update  https://review.openstack.org/6202107:46
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openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add resource loader support  https://review.openstack.org/5874708:05
openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Added resources support in pollster's interface  https://review.openstack.org/5848908:05
openstackgerritLianhao Lu proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Sync config generator from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/6282108:19
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nprivalovahi guys! Ceilometer+Horizon expert, I really need your help. I want to know why  there is only one tab in latest Havana vs 3 tabs in stable Havana. Is it because something worked incorrect or just because of refactoring? Please advice09:59
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openstackgerritAla Rezmerita proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Change endpoint_type parameter  https://review.openstack.org/5966910:51
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Alexei_987jd__: ping11:18
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openstackgerritAndrey Kurilin proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Reuse BaseManager from oslo  https://review.openstack.org/6285611:47
openstackgerritIlya Tyaptin proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Fix work of udp publisher  https://review.openstack.org/6265612:04
eglynnick ... this one is nasty https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1262190 :(12:33
eglynnmethinks should follow across the board the approach to user metadata in the compute pollsters12:34
eglynn(not sure though about the impact on existing datastores ...)12:34
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nprivalovaeglynn, such a pretty bug. One more origin is direct post() from users13:42
nprivalova eglynn, besides the stories you described, there is a flattening mechanism for metadata, just to remind you. And my fix for HBase shows that there is no common decision about the question 'how metadata should be flattened'. In current impl lists and sets just skipped13:46
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openstackgerritEugeniya Kudryashova proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Use Resource() class from common Oslo code  https://review.openstack.org/6288313:54
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nprivalova thomasem, hi! do you still need my second :)? I was afk when you ping me yesterday14:11
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nprivalovaeglynn, such a pretty bug. One more origin is direct post() from users. Besides the stories you've described, there is a flattening mechanism for metadata, just to remind you. And my fix for HBase shows that there is no common decision about the question 'how metadata should be flattened'. In current impl lists and sets just skipped14:38
eglynnnprivalova: yep, metadata handling is extremely inconsistent currently, definitely needs a serious re-visit14:39
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openstackgerritCyril Roelandt proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: Add a wadl target to the documentation  https://review.openstack.org/5757414:47
Alexei_987jd__: ping again14:49
Alexei_987eglynn: Hi, do you know what's happening with this blueprint - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/central-agent-improvement ?14:53
Alexei_987eglynn: I would like to stole it from jd__ :)14:53
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jd__Alexei_987: I don't think you can :)14:55
jd__what do you want to do? this depends mainly on tooz14:55
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eglynnAlexei_987: wot he said :)15:02
eglynnjd__: BTW what's the rough time horizon for Tooz?15:02
jd__eglynn: there's a first patch under review almost done15:03
jd__if you missed it15:03
jd__and yassine's working on it almost fulltime15:03
eglynnjd__: excellent!15:03
jd__so I'm waiting a bit for it to have at least 2 backends and to stop having, how do you say, teething trouble you know15:05
jd__and I'll probably start digging into Taskflow and tooz at some point15:05
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openstackgerritJohn Herndon proposed a change to openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Support the Event API  https://review.openstack.org/5458215:26
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herndonnprivalova, did thomasem get back to you? we wanted to ask what you know about get vs. get_all in the event api branch15:27
nprivalovaherndon, ah I see15:27
herndondid you see my comment on that patch?15:27
herndonget_all breaks the subcontroller for some reason.15:28
nprivalova herndon, sorry, I missed that. Will check now, 1 sec15:28
herndonok, cool.15:28
thomasemHey herndon, nprivalova: sorry I'm in a meeting right now.15:30
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nprivalova thomasem, herndon, I asked to rename just because in all other controllers there is no methods get(), only get_all. But if there are so much problems I think I can forget about my comment :) But anyway, it's interesting why it fails now. I see only one difference: @requires_admin annotation15:38
nprivalovaSergeyLukjanov, ping15:39
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, I'm here15:39
SergeyLukjanovwhat's up?15:39
nprivalovaSergeyLukjanov, I know you've started to work with pecan, could you please take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40248/23/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py15:40
nprivalovaSergeyLukjanov, line 177115:40
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, not yet really15:41
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, but I'll take a look on it sure15:42
nprivalovaSergeyLukjanov, ah, ok, sorry15:42
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, you can ask NikitaKonovalov to take a look too15:42
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, he's already started investigating it to use in storyboard15:42
nprivalovaSergeyLukjanov, ok, I will. thanks!15:43
SergeyLukjanovnprivalova, np15:43
nprivalova thomasem, herndon, it's interesting that 'get' and 'get_all' are processed by the same code in pecan/rest.py: controller = self._find_controller('get_all', 'get')15:47
Alexei_987jd__: sorry I was busy15:49
Alexei_987jd__: can we chat now?15:49
jd__Alexei_987: let's try that15:49
Alexei_987jd__:  I would like to know more about this blueprint and take part in implementation15:50
Alexei_987jd__:  can we have a call in hangout?15:50
Alexei_987jd__: cause I would like to create a design draft to make it more clear where I can help15:51
jd__Alexei_987: sorry got interrupted15:55
Alexei_987jd__: so what about a short hangout call?15:56
jd__yeah sorry, I can't hangout today unfortunately15:56
Alexei_987jd__: ok :) text only mode enabled15:56
jd__I don't think there's a lot on that blueprint as it's basically porting Ceilometer agents to taskflow and tooz15:57
jd__so it's a bit soon to draft anything15:57
Alexei_987jd__: hm.. maybe I didn't understand it completely15:57
jd__I don't blame you for that :)15:57
Alexei_987jd__: 1st question do we need to add HA functionality? or scalability?15:57
Alexei_987jd__:  cause it's not clear from etherpad15:58
jd__Alexei_987: yeah that's the point of the blueprint, we're going to leverage tooz and Taskflow to do that15:58
Alexei_987do what?15:58
Alexei_987it's a different things HA is not scalability15:59
jd__do do task distribution and HA15:59
Alexei_987hm..15:59
Alexei_987not sure that we can achieve both goals at the same time with some 3rd party tool15:59
jd__well we'll see, we know that Taskflow is not going to solve all the issues, and tooz neither, we need both16:00
jd__for now tooz's not ready for prime time, so wait'n see16:00
Alexei_987jd__: if we mean HA it means that ceilometer should not have a Single Point of Failure. It means that all services should be HA. Am I right?16:00
sayalican somebody look into this please http://paste.openstack.org/show/55327/16:00
jd__Alexei_987: yes that's the plan16:00
sayaliI get that error when i try to run Devstack on my machine16:00
sayaliI think it is a ceilometer issue.16:01
Alexei_987jd__: so are we going to implement HA functionality for every service one by one? or for all of them together?16:01
Alexei_987jd__: I think that it would be usefull to have/create a doc/diagram describing existing services and data flow. What do you think?16:04
Alexei_987jd__: we have a general flow description on wiki16:05
Alexei_987jd__: and we could use it as base and add some implementation details (service classes, etc.)16:05
jd__Alexei_987: we're going to leverage tooz for HA basically16:05
herndonnprivalova: (sorry, stepped away) - yeah, wsme doesn't play nice with other decorators, that could have something to do with it.16:06
jd__Alexei_987: I don't think I'll have time to write more documentation about that for now, but if you feel like it deserves more, go ahead16:06
Alexei_987and what is tooz actually?16:07
sayalieglynn: hey16:08
eglynnAlexei_987: group co-ord framework, see https://review.openstack.org/6049916:09
eglynnsayali: hi16:09
sayalieglynn: I was running Devstack on my machine.It was working fine but now when i do stack.sh i get this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/55327/16:11
sayalieglynn: have any fix for it?16:11
sayalieglynn: I am able to access my dashboard but the volumes are unavailable on it and ceilometer doesnt work16:11
Alexei_987eglynn: thanks I'll take a look16:11
sayalieglynn: not sure if this is the same thing  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22530/16:12
eglynnsayali: yeah it certainly looks like it16:13
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eglynnsayali: I try to treat my devstack like cattle16:13
Alexei_987jd__: why don't we use the same approach that oslo uses?16:13
eglynnsayali: ... as opposed to beloved pets16:14
Alexei_987jd__: e.g. implement HA in ceilometer and extract common code to tooz16:14
sayalieglynn: so u dont like treating it well?:D16:14
eglynnsayali: ... so any probs such as this I take as a signal that my devstack has gone too stale, out-lived it's usefulness, time to shoot it in the head ;)16:15
jd__Alexei_987: tooz is a group membership library16:15
eglynnsayali: ... basically what I'm saying is, don't bother buring time trying to keep an old devstack limping along16:15
jd__Alexei_987: we don't go for Oslo because we are doing right engineering, we build libraries and we leverage them16:15
eglynnsayali: ... as the goalposts shift with changing dependencies etc.16:15
eglynnsayali: ... easier to just get into the habit of spining up a completely fresh devstack regularly16:16
Alexei_987jd__: :-D ok16:16
jd__:-)16:16
jd__Alexei_987: check tooz on stackforge :)16:16
sayalieglynn: I am not working on a VM anymore :(16:16
Alexei_987jd__: I'm reading it now but it seems quite empty :)16:17
jd__Alexei_987: check on Gerrit16:17
eglynnsayali: keeping things encapsulated in a VM really is the way to go16:17
eglynnsayali: ... but in any case, you could try running unstack.sh to tear down the old, then re-run stack.sh16:17
sayalieglynn: I did try that several times. .dint work out.16:18
Alexei_987jd__: heartbeat service is missing :)16:19
Alexei_987jd__: and it should have lifecycle events system of some sort16:20
jd__Alexei_987: that's what group membership is about actually16:22
eglynnsayali: anything strange or old in your requirements.txt ?16:22
eglynnsayali: ... curently we require >=1.2.016:22
eglynnhttps://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/requirements.txt#L1516:22
Alexei_987jd__: and do we have a doc somewhere describing what we'll have in tooz?16:23
eglynnsayali: ... whereas 1.2.1 has been around on pypi since 2013-09-26: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.config/1.2.116:23
eglynnsayali: ... that is to say, has been around for ages16:23
eglynnsayali: ... the Heat scenario is different as they're pulling down a literal tarball IIUC16:24
Alexei_987jd__: I've found it https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/blueprints/service-sync thanks16:24
eglynnsayali: ... advice going forward though, shift back to working with VMs16:25
eglynnsayali: ... much more productive to have a completely disposable dev env I find16:25
jd__Alexei_987: sorry I somehow thought you found it earlier :)16:25
sayalieglynn: requirement.txt looks fine16:26
eglynnsayali: ... is oslo.config pip install'd?16:28
sayalieglynn: alright will shift to VMs again!16:28
eglynnsayali: ... pip freeze | grep oslo.config16:28
sayalieglynn: yes i did16:28
sayalieglynn: its there16:28
eglynnsayali: that would be wise16:28
eglynnsayali: ... save yourself a lot of bother in the long run16:28
sayalieglynn: cool. i thought it would help if i keep debugging these issues but i think i should focus on the other work right now :D16:29
herndonquestion - why is the py33 test running for the python-ceilometer client repo, and do I need to make it pass? jenkins +1'd my review even though py33 failed.16:29
thomasemherndon, nprivalova okay, done with my meeting.16:31
eglynnsayali: ... yep, openstack is full of rabbit holes that will burn all your time if descend into them ;)16:33
eglynnsayali: ... best to keep focussed on your main goal16:33
sayalieglynn: hahaha ok:D16:34
sayalieglynn: yes i have already wasted quite some time on this:/16:34
herndonthomasem: basically, what we decided yesterday still stands. I think we're ok using get, maybe should file a bug against pecan for get_all breaking sub controllers, I'll look into doing that16:36
thomasemherndon, Okey dokey. Yeah, I don't see it obstructing functionality, maybe warranting a comment about it or something.16:36
thomasem:)16:36
herndonyou mean update my patch again???16:37
herndonpatchset #23?16:37
thomasemNah16:37
thomasemnot unless you have some other update16:37
thomasemNo reason to go through gate again over that. :)16:38
thomasemOr jenkins16:38
thomasemguess it hasn't gone through gate yet16:38
thomasem:P16:38
herndonhm, I have to rebase anyway16:45
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Convert event timestamp to PrecisionTimestamp  https://review.openstack.org/6243517:02
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed a change to openstack/ceilometer: storage: factorize not implemented methods  https://review.openstack.org/6263618:24
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/ceilometer: Sync config generator from oslo-incubator  https://review.openstack.org/6282118:26
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Alexei_987jd__: sorry for bother you again. can you help me out a little?18:48
jd__Alexei_987: shoot18:49
Alexei_987http://www.plantuml.com:80/plantuml/img/ZP71RiCW38RlF8MLEoymLNc97giUNEArbW0pXqIhfhtxJDjDwzPKuS01ll-pCK5IaKovGXU8eoIgf7uuZESSEjXing1SQj-xy12azy9AkeB4Y9eypHWdhABTKonBvLSshtDP1Z92OgJGSl3XmDRZz2_C6YATEP1rr0ANRS2A1nnDk3K8ZzI1-_ofOJR5wEqur-TrBeY_1UvhcIv4cGReiipeMtwgj4htZVxHNRjBc0rB3Motf6kKrpa6h2nvmOk5rmaB_pFibaQo1wzyF5NVmsxfdNjuWMB_TMyfRDaMktrGezucqhFx0W0018:49
Alexei_987jd__: Could you help me out to layout this properly?18:49
Alexei_987jd__: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-uml18:49
Alexei_987jd__: I can't find out how many separate server's we actually need :) and how services should be grouped together18:50
jd__well there's no hard coded rules anyway18:50
jd__you can link dbsync to storage18:50
jd__and expirer too18:51
Alexei_987jd__: noted18:51
Alexei_987jd__: and what about alarm-* where do they usually live?18:51
jd__alarm-evaluator is going to talk to ceilometer-api18:53
jd__and evaluator is going to talk to alarm notifier18:53
jd__(hint: put arrows there :)18:53
jd__agent-central talks to collector through RPC18:53
jd__same thing for agent-notification18:53
jd__and collector stores things into DB18:54
Alexei_987jd__: great.. thanks :)18:54
Alexei_987jd__: I'll show you the final version tommorrow :)18:54
jd__cool18:54
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herndonis there a standard diagramming tool I should use to draw block diagrams for blueprints?19:40
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jd__herndon: not really, whatever fits for you?19:49
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