Tuesday, 2015-06-02

krotschecklifeless: Thanks for looking at that.00:18
lifelessnp00:23
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ryansbcan someone else +A this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186517/ ? It's just a formatting fix.12:45
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/api-wg: Change template to match our historic usage  https://review.openstack.org/18654612:49
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/api-wg: Add section on filtering  https://review.openstack.org/17746812:58
elmikoryansb: done13:12
ryansbelmiko: \o/ thanks13:12
* ryansb is trying to clear out my "in progress" review board.13:13
elmikoi hear ya, mine have been stagnating =(13:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/api-wg: Switch to new Sphinx RFC entites from links  https://review.openstack.org/18651713:15
ryansboof. Looks like that ruined like 5 patches. :/13:18
elmikotime for some rebasing lol13:19
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/api-wg: Adding 1xx guidance  https://review.openstack.org/18369413:21
openstackgerritMichael McCune proposed openstack/api-wg: Adding 5xx guidance  https://review.openstack.org/18369813:21
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elmikocdent: ping15:37
cdenthola15:37
elmikohey, i'm reaching out to all the listed api-wg liaisons just to raise awareness of 2 docs;15:38
elmikohttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/APIWGLiaisons15:38
elmikoand15:38
elmikohttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/186836/15:38
elmikoyou're usually around here and the meetings, so i'll cut the song and dance routine ;)15:38
cdentdance elmiko dance!15:39
* elmiko shuffles around15:39
elmikota-da!15:39
cdentSo yeah, I'm up to date on those things, the issue(s) I'm having is that there's not total buy in ceilometer-land to "subscribing" to the guidelines, so I have some work to do on that side of the world15:39
annegentle:)15:40
cdentthanks for that, I am suffused with satisfaction15:40
annegentleyou can do it cdent15:40
elmikook, cool. i just want to give folks a heads up =)15:40
elmikoannegentle: i thought we added a bunch of projects to the cross-project liaisons wiki at summit. did that never get commited?15:40
annegentleelmiko: huh, I thought so too15:41
* annegentle looks15:41
elmikoi saw you had changes in the history about the same time as the meeting, but they didn't have the stuff we did =(15:41
cdentthe next ceilometer meeting is concurrent with the next apiwg meeting, so I'll raise it in one and plea for help in the other if it doesn't go well :)15:42
annegentleelmiko: I'll keep adding then15:42
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elmikook, well hopefully folks will be ammenable to just reviewing the bigger guidelines when we go into the freeze period15:42
elmikoannegentle: thanks!15:43
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elmikocdent: as far as the proposed merge workflow goes, i think all we are looking for is a nod from either the liaison(you) or the PTL15:43
cdentyeah, the workflow should be fine, I just don't want to sign checks for the project and then have them be all "naw man, that was just you"15:44
elmikounderstandable15:44
annegentleelmiko: did we just say we'd add the PTL unless we had someone?15:44
cdentso the issue is entirely in ceilo-land, where I will use my mind powers to bend people to my will15:44
elmikoannegentle: i think we said we'd leave it empty so as not to surprise the PTLs too much15:45
elmikoand then i'll circle around and talk with those projects directly about engagment15:45
elmikocdent: lol, awesome!15:45
annegentleelmiko: sounds right15:45
cdentthese are the guidelines you were looking for15:46
elmikodon't forget the hand wave, it helps15:46
cdentcrap! that's why it hasn't worked yet15:47
elmikolol15:47
* cdent has a lot of reviews to catch up with15:48
cdentthat's one of tomorrow's main tasks: brew huge pot of coffee, read pending guidelines15:49
elmikoyea, i'm swimming in reviews lol15:49
sigmavirus24elmiko: I'm floating15:50
sigmavirus24but only because I have so many below me15:50
elmikolol, lucky you ;)15:50
* sigmavirus24 should touch up his RFC guideline15:50
sigmavirus24and by "touch" I mean "finish"15:50
elmikoi think we might have a couple guidelines that should be moved into "freeze" and then posted to the ml. i'm trying to collect something for the meeting this week so we can try out etoews' proposed merge guideline15:51
elmikoryansb: hey, since you hang out in here too. you've seen those links i posted for cdent earlier?15:57
elmikoactually, duh. of course you have. you and i are the only reviews on the merge stuff lol15:58
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ryansblol16:28
ryansb1 sec, just got back from lunch so I need to read the backlog16:28
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ryansboh, yeah, I've seen those links16:34
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elmikoryansb: i figured you knew about them already. just going through all the nicks on the liaison list =)17:41
ryansbgotcha17:41
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elmikosigmavirus24: aren't you the glance liaison to api-wg?17:55
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sigmavirus24elmiko: am I?18:00
sigmavirus24I mean, I coulld be18:00
sigmavirus24*could be18:00
sigmavirus24I just didn't think I officially was18:00
elmikooh ok, no worries18:01
sigmavirus24Besides, my primary role in Glance is causing headaches18:01
sigmavirus24=P18:01
elmikojust looking at who to bug next ;)18:01
sigmavirus24Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Nikhil will volunteer me18:01
elmikoi just didn't know if our list of liaisons was out of sync18:01
elmikohaha18:01
sigmavirus24But best to ask him first18:01
elmikoack, will do18:01
sigmavirus24kragniz: is here too though18:01
sigmavirus24kragniz: and I are also both involved with searchlight (which is breaking out of glance)18:02
elmikointeresting, what's searchlight?18:02
kragnizhey18:03
sigmavirus24Are you familiar with HP'S Graffiti POC and Glance's Catalog Index Search?18:03
sigmavirus24s/and/or/18:03
elmikoheard the name for the hp project, but don't know any details18:04
sigmavirus24It basically indexes your openstack into elasticsearch and adds rbac on top of it18:04
elmikothat sounds cool18:04
kragnizso it allows multitenant search across cloud resources18:05
elmikoand when you say search, is that like all resources by name/type/?18:06
sigmavirus24let me dig up the demo18:06
sigmavirus24https://youtu.be/eGnGr48E5_418:07
kragnizelmiko: yeah, full text search across fields18:07
sigmavirus24It's super impressive18:07
elmikocool, thanks!18:07
sigmavirus24Also fuzzy searching18:07
sigmavirus24and everything else18:07
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elmikosigmavirus24, kragniz, very neat. good luck!18:14
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sigmavirus24elmiko: TravT is the PTL(?) of Searchlight18:18
elmikonice, i'm assuming TravT is the same from the video?18:18
sigmavirus24Yes18:18
TravTsigmavirus24: elmiko: Hi.18:19
TravTFYI, we will be sending something out on the ML very shortly.18:19
TravTalso re: PTL, initially, nikhil_k and I were going to share PTL duties since this is a project spinning out of glance and nikhil_k is current glance PTL.18:20
elmikocool, the project looks neat. nice video too =)18:20
TravTand then we'd have an election sometime after spinning it up.18:20
TravTthanks!  we really are excited about it!18:21
TravThere is a wiki as well: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Searchlight18:21
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elmikoso, does searchlight provision/maintain the elasticsearch cluster?18:22
TravTit provisions it the same way that glance provisions itself or that nova provisions itself.18:23
TravTthat is to say, no18:23
TravThowever, we are going to do a project brainstorming session in a few days I think to see what all the possible ideas are.18:24
elmikointeresting18:24
TravTand this sounds like one.18:24
elmikoi'm just curious, i work on the sahara project, so i'm curious to hear about other data processing type things =)18:25
TravTahh, okay.18:25
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TravTso, our main goal is to actually make it easy to and fast to search for resources in your cloud.18:26
TravTand not just for admins18:26
elmikoyea, looks very nice18:26
TravTre: data processing, i have seen that elasticsearch has some integrations to hadoop, but i haven't personally looked at that kind of thing.18:28
elmikoi don't know a ton about the interaction between elasticsearch and hadoop, but might be worth looking into. especially if there is a possibility that we could help with some of the cluster provisioning/maintenance18:29
sjmc7i haven't either. there are analytics functions built into elasticsearch18:29
sjmc7the hadoop tie in is to use elasticsearch as a datastore, as far as i know18:30
elmikoah, interesting18:30
sjmc7in terms of provisioning ES takes care of most of it itself18:30
elmikook, i haven't done much with it18:30
sjmc7it's common in very large deployments with tricky networking to use zookeeper for record keeping18:31
elmikothat makes sense18:31
sjmc7for our usage i think it'd be overkill; the dataset is small and i'd expect nodes to be closely colocated18:31
elmikoanyone starting to use mesos for that kind of work yet?18:31
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sjmc7it looks like e-s is specifically called out on the mesos page, so i presume some people are. i'm not as involved with e-s as i used to be18:32
elmikook, still interesting stuff. thanks for all the info everyone =)18:34
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sigmavirus24I expect we may be contributing back to the API-WG to18:34
sigmavirus24*too18:34
sigmavirus24Or just relying on it18:35
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elmikosigmavirus24: awesome!18:36
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nikhil_kTravT: o/18:43
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