| quaid | fungi: thanks for posting that here and to the list! | 20:12 |
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| quaid | oilabs-irc-bot: looks like you are flapping every 11 minutes buddy, what's up? | 20:13 |
| quaid | fungi: I haven't participated or introduced myself on the list yet (I started working with Operate First at the beginning of May) because I was still getting to the point of understanding the relationship between the efforts and all the things around it. | 20:14 |
| quaid | but I think my understanding is getting somewhere and I'm prepared to start talking with everyone about stuff. | 20:15 |
| fungi | quaid: awesome! good to have you around | 20:17 |
| fungi | as for oilabs-irc-bot, that's the slack bridge i think, i'll inquire as to whether it's got some hosting issues | 20:17 |
| fungi | i don't typically notice parts and joins because my irc client hides those completely unless i toggle filters off | 20:18 |
| fungi | but i agree, it's been coming and going a lot | 20:18 |
| fungi | looks like it's something hosted in rackspace's dfw pop | 20:19 |
| quaid | I'm sure I can get irssi to hide those, I just always get distracted by something else before I do | 20:19 |
| fungi | yeah, i too never found time to get irssi to do that, but i switched to weechat almost 10 years ago and it has "smart filters" you can toggle which just do it by default | 20:20 |
| quaid | I'll get things going on the mailing list, I'm happy to have a centralizing location for discussions. One thing I'm wondering about is if there is a different solution people use instead of Google Docs for document collaboration? Is anyone using HackMD? | 20:30 |
| fungi | for real-time collaboration, i help maintain https://etherpad.opendev.org/ and https://ethercalc.openstack.org/ (that server will get renamed soon i hope) in the opendev collaboratory | 20:31 |
| quaid | oh I love etherpad for sure | 20:32 |
| fungi | i think more durable documents are expected to be committed to one of the existing oilabs git repos though | 20:32 |
| fungi | i agree google docs is a poor choice for a number of reasons (not even remotely open source, not accessible in china, et cetera) | 20:33 |
| quaid | yeah, and we manage reviews and discussions in the merge request process, that is definitely good | 20:33 |
| quaid | I am absolutely a 100% FLOSS person, both ideally and in terms of what I put on project roadmaps as essential for sustainability. Yet the "use the tool where the people are" argument also sways me, in terms connecting to a wide group of people and being able to bring them along toward more-free. | 20:35 |
| quaid | the dynamic in OI Labs is the same as Operate First, in terms of Slack segmentizing conversations so there is no one location with a permanent URL you can point to as the start of a discussion where all can see and participate in some way. | 20:37 |
| fungi | yeah, for more synchronous discussion we've been persistently logging this channel (url in the /topic obviously) | 20:40 |
| fungi | there is a general slack channel bridged by that oilabs-irc-bot so what we're saying here should be getting echoed there (and vice versa), but not many people seem to use that channel for discussion either | 20:41 |
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| fungi | revised /topic to our shiny new url for the channel logs | 20:43 |
| quaid | what I'm thinking is simply to start all discussions as mailing list threads, and then be willing to take those conversations anywhere to discuss (and +1 to the integrations here creating transparency), as long as we have the discipine to follow the rule of "decisions don't happen unless they happen on the mailing list." | 20:43 |
| fungi | absolutely the way to go, yep | 20:44 |
| quaid | cool! | 20:44 |
| quaid | oh wait, I need to make that a decision on the mailing list ... I'll include something in my self-intro :) | 20:44 |
| fungi | inception | 20:44 |
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