| ildikov | fungi: frickler: sorry for disappearing, I've been transiting and adjusting to time zone differences, etc. I grabbed the bounce email from the person, they received it from starlingx-discuss-bounces@lists.starlingx.io with text in that says "Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts No such command: the" etc | 00:49 |
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| ildikov | I forwarded the entire mail to fungi | 00:49 |
| fungi | thanks ildikov, i'll track it down | 02:50 |
| fungi | ildikov: i see the problem, he sent his message to starlingx-discuss-request rather than starlingx-discuss. he probably unwittingly replied to a subscription confirmation message or something | 03:01 |
| fungi | the cryptic response he received is because his message went to the command address rats | 03:02 |
| fungi | er, went to the command address rather that the posting address | 03:03 |
| fungi | the backspace and enter keys are too close together on this netbook | 03:03 |
| opendevreview | Birger J. Nordølum proposed openstack/diskimage-builder master: feat: add almalinux-container element https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/diskimage-builder/+/883855 | 08:57 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/project-config master: Update reno update to check whether series exists https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/907963 | 10:11 |
| opendevreview | Szymon Datko proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: [DNM] Log from prepare-workspace https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/908264 | 10:20 |
| opendevreview | Alfredo Moralejo proposed opendev/system-config master: Use centos hosted mirror to sync CentOS content https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908030 | 10:21 |
| opendevreview | Szymon Datko proposed zuul/zuul-jobs master: [DNM] Log from prepare-workspace https://review.opendev.org/c/zuul/zuul-jobs/+/908264 | 10:21 |
| amoralej | ^ i added soem details about how to access centra-infra team and link for the relevant ticket | 10:22 |
| mnasiadka | Hello | 10:41 |
| mnasiadka | Is mention-user-support (https://www.gerritcodereview.com/3.7.html#mention-user-support) enabled in OpenDev Gerrit instance? | 10:42 |
| frickler | mnasiadka: as this is marked a experimental I don't think so, codesearch doesn't find "UiFeature__mention_users" anywhere either. I'm also not sure how useful that would be, in my experience I mostly need to ping people via other channels if they don't react on being added to cc/reviewer on their own | 10:52 |
| mnasiadka | frickler: got asked by people more used to github :) | 10:54 |
| apevec | amoralej: one more suggestion inline | 11:49 |
| opendevreview | Alfredo Moralejo proposed opendev/system-config master: Use centos hosted mirror to sync CentOS content https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908030 | 11:53 |
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| Clark[m] | mnasiadka: ya we don't typically enable experiments when upgrading Gerrit. There is usually enough change to not need to opt into those. That said we run 3.8 now not 3.7. It is possible that experiment has been "promoted". Have you tested it? Seems trivial to test on a change | 15:02 |
| fungi | part of the risk with gerrit "experiments" is that they have a much higher chance of getting abandoned sooner. if a feature is clearly marked as "experimental" then they don't feel the need to provide any continuity or backward compatibility in the next release | 15:04 |
| mnasiadka | Clark[m]: tried, it doesn't autocomplete usernames, so I think it's still an experiment - or it got abandoned ;-) | 15:04 |
| fungi | also gerrit "usernames" aren't intended to be public-facing handles really. even though you *can* use them as identifiers, it normally displays them almost nowhere and expects you to use a display name or preferred e-mail | 15:06 |
| mnasiadka | hmm, suggest edits got promoted in 3.9 from experiment, that's interesting | 15:06 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/project-config master: Implement kolla/kayobe-unmaintained-core groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/908321 | 15:38 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/project-config master: Implement kolla/kayobe-unmaintained-core groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/908321 | 15:48 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/project-config master: Implement kolla/kayobe-unmaintained-core groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-config/+/908321 | 15:53 |
| fungi | i'm heading out for lunch and to run some errands, but should be back by 18:00 utc at the latest | 16:04 |
| clarkb | enjoy! | 16:07 |
| clarkb | mnasiadka: ya I suspect that the editor for that might be clunky (I think it is the same one for doing file edits on changes and it doesn't handle larger files well), but could still be a helpful tool | 16:08 |
| mnasiadka | clarkb: actually I hate that editor in dark mode ;-) I can't see a thing when it colorizes syntax ;-) | 16:11 |
| ildikov | fungi: ah, I sensed that might be the case, but couldn't make it out from the bounce response. Thank you for untangling this! | 16:15 |
| clarkb | mnasiadka: not all experiments are as successful as others :) fwiw I don't use the dark mode mostly out of familiarity with the default | 16:27 |
| clarkb | I think fungi does and may have pointers though | 16:27 |
| clarkb | there may be settings somewhere to make that better? | 16:27 |
| fungi | ildikov: fwiw, the bounce didn't say what address they e-mailed, i did a web search for some of the beginning of the response in relation to the mailman mailing list software and quickly realized it was a response from the request address, then filtered the inbound mailserver logs for any mention of his address around the time that response was generated (adjusting for the timezone it had been | 17:31 |
| fungi | translated into) | 17:31 |
| fungi | which confirmed what address he'd actually sent his message to | 17:31 |
| clarkb | fungi: I wonder if we should ask mm3 to provide a better message | 17:32 |
| clarkb | the error about "the" can probably do some better parsing and emit a "this is probably not th address you wanted to send to as this is for subsciption confirmation only" or something like that | 17:32 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, we can probably edit the template to start with "if you meant to post to the mailing list, use this address instead: ..." | 17:32 |
| fungi | mnasiadka: i do ostensibly use "dark mode" but really i barely use gerrit's webui at all, and have never (to my recollection) tried its file editor feature | 17:36 |
| opendevreview | Clark Boylan proposed opendev/system-config master: Update etherpad to 1.9.7 https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908328 | 17:37 |
| clarkb | if ^ passes testing then we can rebase the forced fail change on top to hold a node and test | 17:37 |
| clarkb | I dug around and it appears the changes to plugin installations don't require updates to the Dockerfile? At least upstream didn't update their dockerfile for this | 17:37 |
| clarkb | its possible their dockerfile is broken though so we should hold a node and test | 17:37 |
| clarkb | fungi: I see email indicating the EMS transaction occured as expected and the zuul matrix room continues to work | 17:38 |
| fungi | yep, lgtm too | 17:39 |
| fungi | amorin: in case you didn't see my ping yesterday, we received the 7-day warning from ovh that our free account credits have expired. i'll follow up by e-mail later today as well | 17:44 |
| fungi | and looks like the borg volume on backup02.ca-ymq-1.vexxhost is at 90%, i'll go ahead and prune it now | 17:45 |
| clarkb | cpio won't copy over things if files already exist where it wants to put dirs. Then somehow I ended up with a broken install of zypper that I had to do surgery on and rerunning zypper afterwards now says it will uninstall zypper | 17:54 |
| clarkb | I'm beginning to wonder if I need to reinstall my laptop. That might be a quicker path to resolution | 17:55 |
| fungi | ick. there are times when i'm glad debian chose ar instead of cpio for its package format | 17:55 |
| clarkb | I think I managed to get things resolved. I basically had to rpm -i --force a few packages out of the download cache and then restarting the process appears to have gotten it around that cpio issues | 18:07 |
| clarkb | I'm guessin there were some transition points in the tumbleweed package updates and I tried skipping straight through and it broke | 18:07 |
| fungi | i've e-mailed amorin from our infra-root address, forwarding a copy of the invoice and asking for our free ovh credits for the ci/cd system to be renewed for another year | 18:09 |
| clarkb | thanks! | 18:13 |
| fungi | unfortunately, the notification from tuesday said that they'd tried to bill us on friday, so i'm not sure if the 7-day countdown starts from the attempted billing date or the notification date. we might want to merge a change tomorrow to temporarily take ovh's swift regions out of our log upload targets just in case | 18:17 |
| opendevreview | Clark Boylan proposed opendev/system-config master: DNM force etherpad failure to hold node https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/840972 | 18:29 |
| clarkb | hold is in place for ^ | 18:30 |
| clarkb | fungi: maybe we should go ahead and boot a new keycloak server and start preparing things for applying the udpated deployment to it? | 18:42 |
| fungi | oh, yeah i suppose that can be done before merging the change rather than after, i'll adjust the plan and do it that way | 18:56 |
| clarkb | ya I think worst case we end up deleting a server didnd't need? | 18:56 |
| clarkb | but on the plus side keeps forward momentum going | 18:56 |
| opendevreview | James E. Blair proposed opendev/system-config master: Document gerrit comment deletion procedure https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908335 | 18:57 |
| clarkb | 104.130.4.87 is the held etherpad if you want to edit /etc/hosts and take a look. I'll be doing that after my lunch/bike ride combo | 20:21 |
| fungi | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/clarkb-test lgtm | 20:35 |
| fungi | on that held node | 20:35 |
| clarkb | thanks I'll check it out in a bit myself | 20:37 |
| clarkb | currently just trying to find the motivation to go outside int he cold | 20:37 |
| fungi | i got it over with earlier. now i can sit inside by the fire and boot servers | 20:38 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/zone-opendev.org master: Add DNS entries for new Keycloak server https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/908348 | 21:05 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Add inventory entry for new Keycloak server https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908350 | 21:09 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Update Zuul auth config for new Keycloak images https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908353 | 21:21 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/zone-opendev.org master: Switch the keycloak CNAME to the new server https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/908357 | 21:27 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Add backups for the new Keycloak server https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908359 | 21:41 |
| fungi | infra-root: all the upcoming changes to put the new keycloak server into production are up for review and passing tests now, linked in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/keycloak-refresh-2024 but also all have topic:keycloak-images in case that's more convenient. everything is safe to merge until you reach the wip changes, which we'll merge when we're ready for the production cut-over | 22:07 |
| fungi | i booted the new server, and have put the current production server into our emergency disable list in preparation so that ansible doesn't try to upgrade it (relatively unavoidable since, as discussed in the meeting, there's no clean in-place upgrade solution to cross from the old wildfly images to the quarkus images) | 22:11 |
| opendevreview | Merged opendev/system-config master: Use centos hosted mirror to sync CentOS content https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908030 | 22:35 |
| opendevreview | Jeremy Stanley proposed opendev/system-config master: Clarify testinfra socket name for keycloak rdbms https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/system-config/+/908364 | 22:48 |
| fungi | that's a trivial adjustment to a test, nothing critical but wanted to push it up before i forgot i saw it | 22:48 |
| clarkb | the etherpad test node appears to work for me as well | 22:52 |
| opendevreview | Merged opendev/zone-opendev.org master: Add DNS entries for new Keycloak server https://review.opendev.org/c/opendev/zone-opendev.org/+/908348 | 22:53 |
| fungi | clarkb: answered your nit on 907141, probably close to half my change revisions were burned on trying to get the nested quoting composition to come out just right | 22:55 |
| fungi | i ended up having to take advantage of both string formatting and triple-quoted strings since you can have unescaped doublequotes inside them | 22:57 |
| fungi | and also line continuations | 22:58 |
| fungi | and raw strings | 22:58 |
| fungi | i agree it's a shambles | 22:58 |
| ildikov | fungi: ah, I thought you looked into the server logs or smth like | 23:03 |
| fungi | ildikov: yep, eventually, in order to confirm my suspicions, i just didn't start there | 23:05 |
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