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| red_trela | #startmeeting test | 09:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 9 09:06:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is red_trela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:06 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'test' | 09:06 |
| red_trela | #endmeeting | 09:06 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 9 09:06:47 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/test/2015/test.2015-12-09-09.06.html | 09:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/test/2015/test.2015-12-09-09.06.txt | 09:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/test/2015/test.2015-12-09-09.06.log.html | 09:06 |
| red_trela | nice | 09:06 |
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| red_trela | if there's a need for an irregular meeting (i.e. outside of #openstack-meeting), we can now properly do that here :) | 09:07 |
| red_trela | and openstackstatus is used by infra folks to spread information about e.g. downtimes | 09:09 |
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| red_trela | oh, and openstack does additionally log this channel | 09:09 |
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| *** red_trela changes topic to "MidoNet - network virtualization for your cloud. | www.midonet.org | docs.midonet.org | wiki.midonet.org | planet.midonet.org | twitter.midonet.org | youtube.midonet.org | Use paste.openstack.org to share multi-line console output or logs, etc. | Logs of this channel: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23midonet/ and https://botbot.me/freenode/midonet/" | 09:10 | |
| *** red_trela changes topic to "MidoNet - network virtualization for your cloud. | www.midonet.org | docs.midonet.org | wiki.midonet.org | planet.midonet.org | twitter.midonet.org | youtube.midonet.org | Use paste.openstack.org to share multi-line console output or logs, etc. | Logs of this channel: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/#midonet/ and https://botbot.me/freenode/midonet/" | 09:11 | |
| jfjoly_ | great news red_trela! | 09:17 |
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| red_trela | #success MidoNet development has moved (back) to IRC, and #midonet is now our official channel! | 09:54 |
| openstackstatus | red_trela: Added success to Success page | 09:54 |
| red_trela | we can now also log successes :) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Successes | 09:55 |
| red_trela | jfjoly_: please use for new releases (and other milestones) - that wiki page is always being cherry-picked for the OpenStack newsletter :) | 09:58 |
| red_trela | but everyone should use it for any kind of (even small) success :) | 09:58 |
| jfjoly_ | ok that's good to know :) | 09:58 |
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| yamamoto | ryu25: ping | 10:02 |
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| gsagie | ohoh :) | 12:12 |
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| apuimedo | srvaroa: please check the mailing list | 13:45 |
| apuimedo | I proposed something that can alleviate your issues | 13:45 |
| apuimedo | with the FOSS radicals like myself :P | 13:45 |
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| srvaroa | apuimedo: I have no issues | 14:04 |
| srvaroa | what I want to know is what is the motivation for doing changse | 14:04 |
| srvaroa | I still don't have that very clear.. | 14:04 |
| apuimedo | fixing packaging -> having it on distros | 14:04 |
| srvaroa | fixing packaging is an empty statement | 14:06 |
| srvaroa | concrete deliverables | 14:07 |
| srvaroa | the only thing Sandro asked for is tarballs, which are achievable without repo splits | 14:07 |
| srvaroa | and ditto for the mirror | 14:07 |
| apuimedo | tarballs that would be automatically if there was a real repository | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | and I gave a way to have a real repository | 14:10 |
| srvaroa | no | 14:10 |
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| srvaroa | that's setting the means | 14:10 |
| apuimedo | while allowing you to keep control of everything in a single tree | 14:10 |
| srvaroa | and we don't do that | 14:10 |
| srvaroa | that's not the right way | 14:10 |
| srvaroa | you ask for deliverables, how the sausage is made is not relevant | 14:11 |
| red_trela | The current solution is terribly ugly and IMHO causes more trouble/inconvenience than there's benefit from it. Splitting it up and properly adding it as a submodule, if required, would be the much cleaner solution. But it looks like there's no hard requirement to split it up when moving to OpenStack (this was unclear), so it's really up to you devs. | 14:11 |
| srvaroa | otherwise we'll be putting our nose inside everyone's area | 14:11 |
| srvaroa | which is neither efficient nor realisitc | 14:11 |
| srvaroa | tell us what you need, not how to do it | 14:11 |
| apuimedo | I'm sorry srvaroa. It's not your fault that MidoNet was made open source after you joined, but in open source, and the big tent, the sausage making process is relevant | 14:11 |
| srvaroa | and as I said, tell me precisely what must be delivered that cannot be possibly done with the current structure | 14:12 |
| srvaroa | and we'll fix it | 14:12 |
| srvaroa | but you have told me 0 so far | 14:13 |
| srvaroa | both a tarball, and a repo to produce pypy packages are doable in the current repo structure | 14:13 |
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| apuimedo | are you really comparing a repo that has commits that say "sync" to something that is usable and browsable with exactly the same maintenance cost? | 14:13 |
| srvaroa | no I'm not | 14:26 |
| srvaroa | I'm telling you: it is possible to produce a tarball from a directory | 14:26 |
| srvaroa | if you want to discuss that, let's do it | 14:26 |
| apuimedo | are you really comparing a repo that has commits that say "sync" to something that is usable and browsable with exactly the same maintenance cost? | 14:30 |
| apuimedo | sorry for the repost srvaroa: pressed wrong key combination on weechat | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | :P | 14:31 |
| apuimedo | thanks for the discussion | 14:32 |
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| devvesa | red_trela: Haikel asked me to add a ticket in bugzilla | 16:19 |
| devvesa | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290090 | 16:19 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1290090 in Package Review "Review Request: python-networking-midonet and python-midonetclient" [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to hguemar | 16:19 |
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| devvesa | apuimedo, ryu25: if you can subscribe to the bug (I ignore how to do it), much better | 16:23 |
| apuimedo | thanks devvesa | 16:24 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: should I show you how to do it? | 16:24 |
| devvesa | No, thanks. | 16:24 |
| devvesa | Haha | 16:24 |
| devvesa | I assume I am subscribed because I create it | 16:25 |
| red_trela | devvesa: about time! ;) | 16:26 |
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| red_trela | kilo? What year is it, 2014? :P | 16:28 |
| apuimedo | @red | 16:28 |
| apuimedo | red_trela: clone it for liberty once we have the repos | 16:28 |
| red_trela | and trunk ;) | 16:29 |
| red_trela | yea, yea, I know, we're not ready for Mitaka :P | 16:30 |
| apuimedo | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/5/52/Freeza_cortado_ao_meio.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140323155011&path-prefix=pt-br | 16:30 |
| apuimedo | trunk? | 16:30 |
| devvesa | actually is only for trunk... | 16:30 |
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| red_trela | trunk = master | 16:31 |
| devvesa | i would say that if we want packages from previous versions is another procedure | 16:31 |
| devvesa | thanks for the svn -> git traduction, red_trela :D | 16:31 |
| red_trela | devvesa: it says version trunk but target version kilo...no idea what that means | 16:32 |
| devvesa | red_trela: I think I have no way to change it, maybe they can | 16:32 |
| devvesa | btw: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285718 | 16:33 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1285718 in openstack-puppet-modules "New puppet modules to add in the openstack-puppet-modules packages." [Unspecified,Modified] - Assigned to mmagr | 16:33 |
| red_trela | Oh, is that where "trunk" came from? yea, I guess so...long long time ago, don't remember svn ;) | 16:33 |
| devvesa | our puppet modules will be packaged in OSPD 8 | 16:33 |
| devvesa | karume: ^ | 16:33 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: I'd really like to have puppet-midonet in github.com/openstack/puppet-midonet | 16:35 |
| apuimedo | gerrithub makes me moody | 16:35 |
| apuimedo | and then we could probably use the infra tests | 16:36 |
| red_trela | OSPD = ? | 16:36 |
| devvesa | uhm | 16:36 |
| apuimedo | RHELOSP director? | 16:36 |
| apuimedo | shortened into RHOSPD | 16:36 |
| apuimedo | ? | 16:36 |
| red_trela | devvesa: cool the module gets in | 16:36 |
| devvesa | yes, that one :) | 16:36 |
| red_trela | apuimedo: ah, I guess so | 16:37 |
| devvesa | apuimedo: I asked to Emilien | 16:37 |
| red_trela | apuimedo: agreed on moving to openstack/ | 16:37 |
| apuimedo | thanks devvesa! | 16:37 |
| devvesa | Well, no... Emilien will put it into the puppet modules programs | 16:37 |
| devvesa | but karume should take care of migrate it into openstack infra | 16:37 |
| apuimedo | yeah, yeah... details :P | 16:38 |
| apuimedo | can't wait for that | 16:38 |
| apuimedo | I like the OSt infra | 16:38 |
| devvesa | you can do it if you want to | 16:38 |
| devvesa | feel free! | 16:38 |
| apuimedo | and way to set up gates | 16:38 |
| apuimedo | I offered to help her | 16:38 |
| apuimedo | devvesa: it would be under the puppet project, right? | 16:39 |
| apuimedo | not the networking-midonet one | 16:39 |
| apuimedo | red_trela: will networking-midonet move under the midonet project? (It's currently on neutron stadium) | 16:40 |
| devvesa | First step will be to move the code there, what actually means that we can use OpenStack infrastructure | 16:40 |
| red_trela | devvesa, karume: I can help, too...already bringing midonet and zephyr to OpenStack infra, too ;) | 16:40 |
| devvesa | then we have to ask to EmilienM to add it into the puppet program | 16:40 |
| red_trela | apuimedo: no, it won't | 16:40 |
| devvesa | that means we will release the puppet module altogether with the rest | 16:40 |
| red_trela | apuimedo: unless they change the stadium rules, maybe (there's an ongoing discussion) | 16:41 |
| red_trela | devvesa: as long as they agree, we can do the actual move | 16:42 |
| apuimedo | good | 16:42 |
| devvesa | red_trela: first I would put efforts on the openstack repo and tests | 16:43 |
| devvesa | then, we can ask to be integrated in the program, | 16:43 |
| devvesa | my dog is biting my feet. I'll come back in 30' | 16:44 |
| apuimedo | same, but with my son | 16:44 |
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| red_trela | devvesa: repos have to be added to a project. Of course you can add a fake project and then move it later...but doing it right from the beginning would be better IMHO. i.e. first get their okay. | 16:45 |
| red_trela | if you guys go away, I go to bed :P | 16:45 |
| xavileon | srvaroa abikfalvi https://review.gerrithub.io/#/c/254647/ | 17:01 |
| xavileon | glue in the minion to react to container creations, etc. | 17:01 |
| srvaroa | thanks xavileon ! | 17:01 |
| xavileon | I had to mock the host stuff, I'm going to try with sandbox | 17:02 |
| srvaroa | oh I didn't give you that script | 17:03 |
| srvaroa | hold on | 17:03 |
| abikfalvi | thanks @xavileon will check | 17:05 |
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