Monday, 2015-10-05

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openstackgerritKuo-tung Kao proposed openstack/kolla: add "--template-only" flag for tools/build.py  https://review.openstack.org/23088205:52
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sdakebmace ping06:06
SamYaplehey sdake. where ya been?06:09
SamYaplerc2 was yesterday06:10
sdakeits the weekend been unplugged06:10
SamYapleyea i meant last week06:10
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sdakesamyaple hey been unplugged this weekend06:12
sdakeindeed i am late on the rc2, i'll tag it tomorrow morning06:13
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SamYaplesdake: i only think one patch as merged into stable since rc106:20
SamYaplewaiting on reviews....06:20
sdakeya short cycle06:20
sdakemy flu is pased finally06:21
sdakeso i am ready to roll this week06:21
SamYaplealso been pretty dead for a few weeks except for that rc1 burst06:21
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sdakeya nobody lieks fixing bugs06:21
SamYaplei like it06:21
SamYapleits just i cant reproduce some of them06:21
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sdakei noticed but havnet filed a bug the console doesn't work in nova06:22
SamYapleso before we tag rc2 the major patches (common start.sh, FHS file structure fixup) should really merge06:22
sdakerather in horizon for nova06:22
SamYaplesdake: you sure its not configuration?06:22
sdakeit couod be my nat which is why i havne't filed a bug06:22
sdakenoticed it late friday06:22
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kjellyHi guys, what's your suggestion for the code? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230882/1/kolla/cmd/build.py06:35
SamYaplekjelly: you dont actualy need to return anything06:46
SamYaplekjelly: just 'return'06:46
kjellySamYaple: Ok06:52
openstackgerritKuo-tung Kao proposed openstack/kolla: add "--template-only" flag for tools/build.py  https://review.openstack.org/23088206:58
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inc0good morning07:18
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kjellyI have one question. Why we don't split dockerfile into many piece? For example, there are ubuntu file, centos file. And import it in dockerfile.07:45
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SamYaplekjelly: templating a dockerfile is already borderline not-bestpractice07:58
SamYapleDockerfiles should be readable, thats the way they were designed07:58
SamYapleif you break them into small pieces like that they are no longer readable07:58
SamYapleinc0: morning07:59
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kjellySamYaple: I see. But now the code about centos is mixed with the code about ubuntu.  It looks a little tumultuous.08:03
SamYapleyea i think we have a fishbowl session about it at the summit in tokyo kjelly08:05
SamYaplemy point to the contrary here is if you actual break up the files you will see that they are mostly single line files and that generates alot more difficutly to read08:06
SamYapleadditionally you cant see all the of commands that will run breaking docker best practice08:07
SamYaplethey both have there benefits and detractors, all in one file is closer to a legitmate dockerfile than anything else08:07
kjellySamYaple: Understand. Thank for you to solve my doubt.08:10
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SamYaplekjelly: its an ongoing discussion so please voice your thoughts when the subject comes up again :)08:28
SamYaplei believe inc0 will agree with you08:29
kjellySamYaple: Ok. I see.08:30
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kjellyIt seems that we should use jinja2 comment syntax instead of bash comment syntax here. https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/base/Dockerfile.j2#L5708:43
kjellyIf we use bash comment syntax here, we will see useless comment in the dockerfile generated by build.py08:44
kjellyWhat do you think ?08:44
SamYaplekjelly: thats a fair point. i don't think youll get much resistance if it is a comment about something specific to the templating08:44
kjellySamYaple: Ok.08:48
inc0kjelly, we'll have session on templates09:04
inc0I'm strong supporter of using everything jinja has to offer09:04
inc0includes and such09:04
SamYapleand im a bit softer on the issue now that people have seen and used jinja2 for a bit. i think it may be more doable now but it does generate alot of files and it is easier to miss things09:05
inc0yeah, we need to find out what's most convenient, that's all09:06
SamYapleand it will be a much easier conversaion to have once the openstack-common container is completed09:07
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inc0SamYaple, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229816/ tested - solves the issue13:57
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inc0sorry it took so long13:57
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jpeelerworth doing, even though we already listed it on our wiki - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076171.html15:13
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inc0howdy17:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla: PXE for Ironic for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/23077717:30
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bmaceyou guys still discussing the dict property change or is that a done deal / in work at this point?20:46
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jpeelerbmace: no, decided it wouldn't work20:49
jpeeleror not the way i wanted to and therefore i didn't continue20:49
bmaceah, ok, very good to know, thanks jpeeler.  it would end up with some sort of obnoxious override behavior too... needing to dupe the whole dict with just the changed value if you wanted a sub value changes in globals for example.20:49
jpeelerit's not an ansible best practice and i found out why the hard way20:50
bmaceyeah, been doing a lot of ansible stuff lately and it seems like most real deployments avoid the dicts.20:51
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