Tuesday, 2015-06-23

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sdake_yo01:28
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SamYapleyo yo yo03:01
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openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed stackforge/kolla: WIP - DO NOT MERGE Add initial config function and keystone support  https://review.openstack.org/19254404:11
SamYaplesdake__: you around04:14
sdake__shoot04:14
SamYapleWhere do you want the augment file and the ansible configuration files to reside?04:14
SamYaple/etc/kolla, /opt/kolla?04:14
sdake__i guess /etc04:15
SamYaple/etc/kolla/confs/keystone.conf ? /etc/kolla/ansible_conf.yml?04:16
SamYaplerespectively04:16
sdake__i dont know can we ahve this discussion later04:17
sdake__i dont feel aprticuarly well04:17
sdake__just do what you think is right04:17
SamYaplesure. ill just do my own thing04:17
SamYaplecool04:17
sdake__we can always change it later04:17
sdake__git review ftw04:17
SamYapleso will kolla have an "install" script of some kind?04:18
SamYapleto setup these structures correctly?04:18
sdake__i dont even now04:19
SamYaplego to bed04:19
sdake__my head hurts so much i can't even think traight04:19
sdake__dentist open tomrorow hopefully they can get me in04:19
sdake__or atleast get me some pain meds that do the job04:19
SamYaplestand in front and scream, that always works04:19
sdake__i am gonn ashut down tho ttyl :)04:20
SamYaplebai04:20
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nihilifergood morning06:24
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SamYaplemorning nihilifer06:26
openstackgerritImran Hayder Malik proposed stackforge/kolla: Fix docker-1.7.0 binary download link  https://review.openstack.org/19451506:34
SamYapleharmw: can you ack this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191486/06:41
inc0good morning06:46
SamYaplehello inc006:46
SamYapleinc0: im going to close your database sync tickets in favor of https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/146757606:49
openstackLaunchpad bug 1467576 in kolla "Add option to skip db sync for all services" [Undecided,New]06:49
SamYaplewhich is fixed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194313/06:50
inc0ok, makes sense06:50
SamYaplei know yours was first, but im going to mark it as a dup to track it in one place06:50
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/kolla: Add option to not run db sync  https://review.openstack.org/19431306:50
inc0I don't care as long as it gets fixef06:50
inc0which it did06:51
inc0and from now on let's -1 patches without this mechanism06:51
SamYapleyea it works fine for single node, but is no good for multinode06:52
inc0because ENV stays?06:53
SamYapleno for single nodes its ok to run the db_sync at each start06:54
SamYaplemulti node you potentially change the db while others are using it06:54
SamYaplewe dont have online db upgrades yet06:54
* SamYaple crosses his fingers for liberty06:55
inc0well, its not yet done in nova06:55
inc0and we don't really know how it will work if ported to oslo06:55
SamYapleleave me my hope dammit06:56
inc0we've managed to do that with versionedobjects...sort of06:56
inc0so it is possible06:56
SamYaplei dont personally have an issue with a small downtime for openstack changes, but it would make Kolla work better to have online db upgrades06:57
inc0well, personally noone does07:00
inc0but its good to aim for no downtime07:00
inc0and there is hell lot of work to acheve that, so we might as well start now07:00
SamYaplewell not only that, but we can start all of the new containers before upgrading the DB07:01
SamYapleso once everything is online _then_ can can upgrade the db07:01
SamYapleits got alot of rollback potential07:01
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openstackgerritImran Hayder Malik proposed stackforge/kolla: Fix docker-1.7.0 binary download link  https://review.openstack.org/19451507:02
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inc0damn, I hate keepalived07:23
inc0script fails, vrrp doesn't migrate07:23
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inc0_SamYaple, I got it working, fun fact, if you have failing script (fail == migrate ip)07:35
inc0_you need to put negative weight07:35
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed stackforge/kolla: Keepalived container  https://review.openstack.org/18798107:47
SamYapleinc0_: cool07:48
SamYapleso you can fail the scirpt on one and it will migrate07:48
inc0_yeah07:49
SamYaplethen fail it on the other and it moves back?07:49
inc0_yup07:49
SamYapleawesome07:49
inc0_as long as first one comes back on07:49
SamYaplegood job07:49
SamYapleright07:49
inc0_I mean if it won't it still migrate07:49
inc0_because priorities will be same as initial ones, but with threshold07:50
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SamYaplepaste.openstack.org/show/316081/08:25
SamYapleinc0_: ^08:26
SamYaplethats what i had in mind, that match you?08:26
openstackgerritAlicja Kwasniewska proposed stackforge/kolla: :Keystone installation from source  https://review.openstack.org/19316608:35
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inc0_SamYaple, yeah...and also source installs08:40
SamYapleinc0_: yup those could be pulled in too08:40
SamYapleso well end up with, well, the initial structure of service/Dockerfile08:41
SamYaplei thought we were only expanding to centos+ubuntu installes08:41
SamYaplebut that kinda exploded08:41
inc0_I was thinking08:44
inc0_if it will be too big ifs08:44
inc0_we can if distro == centos and method==source => include centos-source08:44
inc0_or even include centos-base (so yum install python-pip and so on)08:45
inc0_and then depending on method pip install stuff or yum install stuff08:45
inc0_because source install, providing all the packages required are pre-installed (pip for example)08:46
inc0_should be the same as in any ohter distro08:46
SamYaplethats reasonable to me08:46
inc0_and we should laverage that08:46
SamYapleim working on a docker layer merge script for kolla, so we wont need to keep all the build deps08:46
inc0_we just need to figure out clever way to organize files08:46
SamYaplethey can be cleaned and the space they used removed08:46
inc0_makes sense08:48
inc0_uhh that keepalived +2 from you was paid in blood08:51
mstachowo/ moring all08:53
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SamYaplei wanted a complete container08:56
inc0_I don't blame you:P08:57
inc0_just timing was...not too good;)08:57
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SamYaplemorning mstachow08:58
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inc0https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193166/ SamYaple pbourke09:26
inc0we need to think how to separate Dockerfiles - yum vs source09:27
SamYaplewe alread have that in place inc009:27
inc0do we?09:27
SamYapledocker/centos/source/keystone/Dockerfile09:27
inc0ah, so we need to change path on this review right?09:28
SamYaplecorrect09:28
inc0do we symlink rest of stuff?09:28
inc0like start.sh?09:29
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SamYapleyup09:31
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SamYaplehey was the midcycle date ever set?09:42
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openstackgerritMichal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support  https://review.openstack.org/19457810:04
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openstackgerritMichal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support  https://review.openstack.org/19457810:53
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openstackgerritSam Yaple proposed stackforge/kolla: WIP - DO NOT MERGE Add initial config function and keystone support  https://review.openstack.org/19254411:07
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vbelgood morning/evening everyone11:54
SamYaplemorning vbel11:55
vbelRunning "tools/kolla start" stopped with failure on cinder - is it supposed to do so?11:55
vbelError: image kollaglue/centos-rdo-cinder-data:latest not found11:55
vbelCall docker-compose -f ./compose/cinder-volume.yml up -d fail11:55
rhalliseyoh crap11:56
rhalliseyI need to build that and push it11:56
rhalliseyoops11:56
rhalliseyvbel, build it locally11:56
vbelrhallisey: ok, no worries, just getting up to speed :)11:57
rhalliseyno problem, I forgot to actually build and push those images11:57
vbelcan you explain me please the reason for mariadb double container - why do we need data-only part if the actual storage is host?11:58
vbelfor me it looks like double mounting overhead11:58
SamYaplevbel: its to make sure the database files stay persistent when upgrading the database container11:59
SamYaplesince we dont mount a folder from the host11:59
vbelhttps://github.com/stackforge/kolla/blob/master/docs/database-container-set.md  -  does this still apply? probably not :) Just checked compose/mariadb.yml12:02
vbelSamYaple: thanks12:03
vbelSamYaple: have been confused by docs :)12:04
SamYaplerhallisey: cah you ack this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191486/12:10
SamYaplerebase prevented merge12:10
rhalliseySamYaple, sure12:11
openstackgerritMerged stackforge/kolla: Add --prefix to override .buildconf  https://review.openstack.org/19148612:12
SamYaplethanks rhallisey12:12
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vbelsmall design question: rhallisey added an option not to run db sync. Would it be better to make a new type of non-ha container that just runs once on upgrade anywhere in cluster? like cinder-config, nova-config, ...12:59
SamYaplevbel: I would prefer to handle that bootstrap case in as an environment variable in the container13:01
SamYaplebut you should see what others think13:01
rhalliseyya I'm not sure, I don't know the benefits and downfalls13:02
vbelSamYaple: I am ok with either, wonder if it could be cleaner for future updates/upgrades13:02
SamYapleim weary of adding a new container for things that can be handled with if switched personally13:03
vbelSamYaple: understood13:03
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kevsiHi.  I have a general Q re the Docker version Kolla plans to use:  do we believe Docker 1.7 will do for Kolla Liberty-3 or is the use of Docker 1.8 planned/foreseen ?  Thanks.13:33
sdake_1.7 has the features we need13:37
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kevsisdake: thanks13:40
sdake_1.8 will probably be where docker is stable with those needed fetures13:40
sdake_so wymmv ;-)13:40
kevsithat's OK, we use kilometres :-)13:42
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kevsiand seeing as I'm on a roll:   re Ceph (in for Liberty-2 milestone, though not currently started):  do we know what version of Ceph is targeted  - Firefly/Giant/Hammer ?   ( not mentioned on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/ceph-container  )13:48
SamYaplekevsi: currently no one has started that, but i dont see why that can't be configurable13:50
SamYapleHammer would be targeted because we like new13:50
SamYaplebut if yo uwant to build your own containers it is easy to change Hammer to Firefly13:50
SamYapleI will be doing the ceph containers after hte ansible things if no one else has grabbed it13:51
SamYaplesdake_: the ansible review has been updated and it is working in check mode (minus a few missing components)13:52
SamYapleI need to figure out how to pull in the gplv3 code13:52
kevsiSamYaple:  thanks for that..  Default of Hammer sounds good and I will see internally if we need to change config to build earlier versions ourselves  (depending on what's currently supported).13:58
SamYapleBuilding and deploying your own images should be seemless13:59
SamYapleyou will even be able to mix and match when deploying with ansible14:00
SamYapleso you can just use ceph with _your_ built images, but consume the kolla images for all the other services14:00
kevsigreat. thanks.14:00
sdake_who wrote th gplv3 code14:01
sdake_and what gplv3 ode re you speaking on (its purpose)14:02
kevsire gplv3, what's the issue - not tainting the OpenStack Apache License with GPLv3 ?  I'm not sure how licensing applies to DockerIImages14:06
kevsiwith RPMs previously, we assumed deployment as separate RPMs was enough to separate  the GPL components from a deployment point of view (and then not to have the libraries linked in was enough for runtime)14:07
sdake_ys er fon yesny lirndr ysinyinh14:07
sdake_yes we dont want license anting14:07
kevsihave any previous Kolla Docker projects got arond the GPL tainting issue ?14:09
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vbelservice_hosts.sh - is it only useful for kubernetes? Does Kolla link (in docker sense) any containers now?14:14
kevsiSamYaple: one possible way may be to have an isolated DockerContainer for the GPL portion, and because Kolla code would not be "linked" to this DockerContainer (instead, would use network sconnections/sockets), you might be OK.14:14
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SamYaplethe gpl code is in the form of ansible modules that are not in a tagged ansible release at the moment14:48
SamYapleim unsure of how licenses work14:49
SamYaplei do know i never use GPLv3 since its a PITA14:49
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kevsiand then they decided GPLv3 wasn't a big enough PITA, and so they created AGPL.  you can agree with their overall aim, it's just that it becomes impossible to work with in reality.14:53
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openstackgerritMichal Stachowski proposed stackforge/kolla: RabbitMQ container with HA support  https://review.openstack.org/19457815:04
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vbeldoes anyone run Kolla builds with proxy? I currently workaround the problem with modified base image - added proxy lines to yum.conf and curlrc though that could be not the best solution15:23
sdakehey guys sorry i am not providing much leadeship this week, I am in serious pain and really can't think straight15:23
sdakeI have dentist visit htis morning at 10:30 followed by a endotontist visit at some undefined time15:24
sdakeafter the endotontist + 2 or 3 days, I should be back in good health15:24
sdakeso until then, please don't as me hard questions :)15:24
sdakebut srsly, licenses need to be asl2.0 - do whate it take to make it so15:25
sdakemy recommendation would be to rewrite tehe code15:25
sdakevbel define proxy15:26
sdakeyou mean like a firewall proxy?15:26
vbelyes, http proxy15:29
sdakewhat is the use case for that precisely?15:29
vbele.g. I cannot run wget/curl/yum without setting http(s)_proxy environment variable15:30
sdakewhy do you need a proxy, is it an internal company process?15:30
vbelyep, many have it.15:30
sdakevbel sounds likea blueprint - could you file one15:31
sdakeand I'll set to discussion state15:31
mstachowIt will be great to have proxy support I think15:32
mstachowWe also have got similar problems here15:32
vbelhave done already :)  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-proxy-to-dockerfiles15:32
sdakeyes discussion blueprints are for people to discuss in the whiteboard what they thin should be done15:32
sdakeupdtedat https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/add-proxy-to-dockerfiles15:34
sdakemstachow feel free to chime in on the discussion15:34
mstachowI will :) !15:34
mstachowanyway, I'm looking for somebody to review our new rabbit-ha container15:35
mstachowexcept Jenkins ofc :)15:36
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sdakeok guys gotta get - need ride to the dentist15:36
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mstachowgood luck sdake15:37
mstachow!15:37
vbelgood luck!15:37
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sdakehey fols18:49
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_mstachowhow are You sdake?18:56
sdakefine18:56
_mstachowIt's good to see You alive18:57
_mstachow:)18:57
sdakeya my pain levels are from a 9 to about a 4 now18:57
sdakedentist xrayed my teeth my roots ar eall in perfect health18:58
sdakeso he is sending me to a specialist18:58
_mstachowhmm It's good to read that your pain is downgraded18:59
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sdakeits not good that i still have pain and the dentist doesn't now why19:00
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_mstachowbut It's lower - it's a progress. I also think that this situation has got some cons19:01
_mstachowI've also have hope that your pain will go away soon19:01
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harmwis there some architecture or something for how we want to aproach sourcebased containers?19:20
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sdakemke one up19:22
sdakeno need for spec for that19:22
harmwhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/install-from-source just read that :)19:22
sdakesort it out in the reviews19:22
sdakerefactor as necessary19:22
lothSamYaple: you around?19:22
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harmwcrap, Gerrit took a day off20:00
harmwah20:01
harmwserver unavailable, puh20:17
rhalliseyya it just died on me20:17
harmwgood excuse to get some sleep :)20:18
rhallisey:)20:18
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openstackgerritMerged stackforge/kolla: Add base image for oraclelinux  https://review.openstack.org/19101321:58
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sdakefinally dr filled a real prespetpion of pain meds23:07
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vinkmanand now sdake is floating two inches below the ceiling ;)23:27
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