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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @jesse.larrew why do you want a hyperstart agent instead of kata-agent? | 00:58 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> @bergwolf because I'm having trouble getting any output from the kata-agent when memory encryption is enabled, and I wanted to test if maybe gRPC had something to do with it. If switching to cc-agent restores functionality, then I know where to look next. | 01:14 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> If there is a way to use a kata-agent with gRPC disabled, that would work too. | 01:15 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @jesse.larrew No, gRPC is the very basis for kata now. OTOH, I do not think gRPC is really an issue for you. Can you check if the guest is up running with your new qemu command line? | 01:25 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> If I run qemu directly with the same command line options, then the guest starts fine. It's only when I run the guest from the kata-runtime that I stop getting output. Usually that means that some device is trying to DMA to encrypted memory without going through the memory controller. But like I said, the same command works fine outside of kata... | 01:45 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @jesse.larrew can you parse the command line here? both with and without kata if they differ in any arguments. | 01:57 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> Oops. I might have figured it out. My container kernel had an initramfs built-in that contained a cc-agent build instead of kata. Let me try without the initramfs... | 02:05 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> Ok. Here's the qemu command line from kata: | 02:25 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> home/amd/src/git/qemu-output/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 \ -name pod-4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e \ -uuid 6b72d04e-b3c1-4721-a933-1fbdb60ec4e5 \ -machine q35,accel=kvm,kernel_irqchip,nvdimm \ -cpu host \ -qmp unix:/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/mon-6b72d04e-b3c1,server,nowait \ -qmp | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | unix:/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/ctl-6b72d04e-b3c1,server,nowait \ -m 2048M,slots=2,maxmem=65313M \ -device virtio-serial-pci,disable-legacy=on,id=serial0,iommu_platform=true \ -device virtconsole,chardev=charconsole0,id=console0 \ -chardev socket,id=charconsole0,path=/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/console.sock,server,nowait | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | \ -device virtio-blk,disable-legacy=on,drive=image-c69088d28251cbcf,scsi=off,config-wce=off \ -drive id=image-c69088d28251cbcf,file=/usr/share/kata-containers/kata-containers-clearlinux.img,aio=threads,format=raw,if=none \ -device pci-bridge,bus=pcie.0,id=pci-bridge-0,chassis_nr=1,shpc=on \ -object sev-guest,id=sev0,cbitpos=47,reduced-phys-bits=5 \ -machine memory-encryption=sev0 \ -device | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsi0,disable-legacy=on,iommu_platform=true \ -device virtserialport,chardev=charch0,id=channel0,name=agent.channel.0 \ -chardev socket,id=charch0,path=/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/kata.sock,server,nowait \ -device virtio-9p-pci,disable-legacy=on,iommu_platform=true,fsdev=extra-9p-kataShared,mount_tag=kataShared \ -fsdev | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | local,id=extra-9p-kataShared,path=/run/kata-containers/shared/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e,security_model=none \ -netdev tap,id=network-0,vhost=on,vhostfds=3:4:5:6:7:8:9:10,fds=11:12:13:14:15:16:17:18 \ -device driver=virtio-net-pci,netdev=network-0,mac=02:42:ac:11:00:02,disable-legacy=on,iommu_platform=true,mq=on,vectors=18 \ -rtc base=utc,driftfix=slew \ -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=discard \ -vga | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | none \ -no-user-config \ -nodefaults \ -nographic \ -daemonize \ -kernel /usr/share/kata-containers/vmlinuz.container.sev.no-initramfs \ -append tsc=reliable no_timer_check rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 i8042.direct=1 i8042.dumbkbd=1 i8042.nopnp=1 i8042.noaux=1 noreplace-smp reboot=k console=hvc0 console=hvc1 iommu=off cryptomgr.notests net.ifnames=0 pci=lastbus=0 root=/dev/pmem0p1 rootflags=dax,data=ordered,errors=remount-ro rw rootfstype=ext4 | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | debug systemd.show_status=true systemd.log_level=debug panic=1 initcall_debug init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd systemd.unit=kata-containers.target systemd.mask=systemd-networkd.service systemd.mask=systemd-networkd.socket ip=::::::4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e::off:: agent.log=debug mem_encrypt=on root=/dev/vda1 rootflags=data=ordered,errors=remount-ro \ -drive | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | if=pflash,format=raw,unit=0,file=/usr/share/kata-containers/OVMF_CODE.fd,readonly \ -smp 1,cores=1,threads=1,sockets=1,maxcpus=240 | 02:26 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> Here is the same command run directly in qemu, but with the networking devices removed: | 02:27 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> home/amd/src/git/qemu-output/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 \ -name pod-4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e \ -uuid 6b72d04e-b3c1-4721-a933-1fbdb60ec4e5 \ -machine q35,accel=kvm,kernel_irqchip,nvdimm \ -cpu host \ -qmp unix:/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/mon-6b72d04e-b3c1,server,nowait \ -qmp | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | unix:/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/ctl-6b72d04e-b3c1,server,nowait \ -m 2048M,slots=2,maxmem=65313M \ -device virtio-serial-pci,disable-legacy=on,id=serial0,iommu_platform=true \ -device virtconsole,chardev=charconsole0,id=console0 \ -chardev socket,id=charconsole0,path=console.sock,server,nowait \ -device | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | virtio-blk,disable-legacy=on,drive=image-c69088d28251cbcf,scsi=off,config-wce=off \ -drive id=image-c69088d28251cbcf,file=/home/amd/go/src/github.com/kata-containers/osbuilder/kata-containers.img,aio=threads,format=raw,if=none \ -device pci-bridge,bus=pcie.0,id=pci-bridge-0,chassis_nr=1,shpc=on \ -object sev-guest,id=sev0,cbitpos=47,reduced-phys-bits=5 \ -machine memory-encryption=sev0 \ -device | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsi0,disable-legacy=on,iommu_platform=true \ -device virtserialport,chardev=charch0,id=channel0,name=agent.channel.0 \ -chardev socket,id=charch0,path=/run/virtcontainers/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e/kata.sock,server,nowait \ -device virtio-9p-pci,disable-legacy=on,iommu_platform=true,fsdev=extra-9p-kataShared,mount_tag=kataShared \ -fsdev | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | local,id=extra-9p-kataShared,path=/run/kata-containers/shared/pods/4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e,security_model=none \ -rtc base=utc,driftfix=slew \ -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=discard \ -vga none \ -no-user-config \ -nodefaults \ -nographic \ -daemonize \ -kernel /usr/share/kata-containers/vmlinuz.container.sev.no-initramfs \ -append "tsc=reliable no_timer_check rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 i8042.direct=1 | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | i8042.dumbkbd=1 i8042.nopnp=1 i8042.noaux=1 noreplace-smp reboot=k console=hvc0 console=hvc1 iommu=off cryptomgr.notests net.ifnames=0 pci=lastbus=0 root=/dev/pmem0p1 rootflags=dax,data=ordered,errors=remount-ro rw rootfstype=ext4 debug systemd.show_status=true systemd.log_level=debug panic=1 initcall_debug init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd systemd.unit=kata-containers.target systemd.mask=systemd-networkd.service | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | systemd.mask=systemd-networkd.socket ip=::::::4caed511774e5c8aa73be52825e174504dcf36480fa6a721073264adb0c89a8e::off:: agent.log=debug mem_encrypt=on root=/dev/vda1 rootflags=data=ordered,errors=remount-ro" \ -drive if=pflash,format=raw,unit=0,file=/usr/share/kata-containers/OVMF_CODE.fd,readonly \ -smp 1,cores=1,threads=1,sockets=1,maxcpus=240 \ -monitor pty \ -S | 02:28 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jesse.larrew> The above command boots properly, but the kata agent exits immediately. That's probably normal, since there is no proxy listening on the control sockets. | 02:30 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Morning/evening y’all | 14:07 |
| gwhaley | morning @eric.ernst | 14:15 |
| * gwhaley only has one eye on the channel right now... | 14:15 | |
| * jodh has tea | 14:16 | |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <anne> _quarter cup of coffee consumed. does not constitute alive yet_ | 14:17 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I don’t have a lot to discuss. I want to put some time in today to review @miao.yanqiang s patches | 14:19 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> yeah definitely the next PR to look at | 14:21 |
| jodh | might be a good idea to paste the URL. | 14:21 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> https://github.com/kata-containers/runtime/pull/214 | 14:22 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Wondering if @bergwolf ended up reaching out earlier today | 14:23 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <julio.montes> @bergwolf @jose.carlos.venegas.m please take a look https://github.com/kata-containers/packaging/pull/18 | 14:30 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I didn’t see an update on why zen is needed (now). | 14:32 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Autocorrect. Ugh. Xen | 14:32 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @eric.ernst - I wonder if we want to add the `release-gating` label to https://github.com/kata-containers/packaging/issues/1 ? It isn't *strictly* going to gate the tagging of the repos, but we'll need it immediately after that stage :) | 14:32 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Me goes and looks for documentation PR for release.... | 14:32 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @eric.ernst yeah about the packaging PR, I made a comment about that | 14:35 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> I don't know if we want to push a kernel config for Xen that we haven't been testing | 14:35 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @graham.whaley @james.o.hunt could you please take a look at https://github.com/kata-containers/runtime/pull/232 | 14:35 |
| gwhaley | I had a peek at 232 this morning - but I don't have time right now to gen up on the sandbox code enough to do it justice - best for others in that code to review... | 14:40 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @bergwolf around ? | 14:41 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> If we don’t support it, I don’t think we should add | 14:43 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Once we have xen added from a runtime perspective we can add follow in or | 14:43 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Follow on PR | 14:44 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> I agree, and I really don't like the fact that we couldn't test it | 14:44 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> weird to introduce something we didn't test first | 14:44 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> yeah. @julio.montes , okay with you? | 14:44 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> could I get some inputs on https://github.com/kata-containers/runtime/pull/213 ? | 14:44 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <julio.montes> @eric.ernst ok | 14:45 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <julio.montes> @eric.ernst @sebastien.boeuf done | 14:46 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> @sebastien.boeuf will take a look at it today | 14:47 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> thanks. I need a decision about this PR | 14:47 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> it improves things, but as @bergwolf explained, we could go with a more optimized solution that would not require lock | 14:48 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Why not just go with his suggestion? | 14:49 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> and as long as we keep this inside virtcontainers, we have to make the implementation generic, we cannot assume we will have container ID uniqueness | 14:49 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Harder or just layering? | 14:50 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @eric.ernst not hard, but it changes my PR again, and I want to make sure we all agreed first, otherwise I'll waste my time | 14:50 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> @sebastien.boeuf Have things changed since we last talked about it | 14:51 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> i see. Well, if it helps, I think what he suggests is pragmatic/makes sense. | 14:51 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> we agreed that we do not need any locking and things can be put under vc | 14:51 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I'd be curious if @james.o.hunt or others have input. | 14:51 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @archana.m.shinde yes things changed. I have realized that "There is only one case that is bothering me, how can we delete runtime-root/containerID directory safely ? Because at the time we'll do the delete, we never know that another pod could create the same containerID." | 14:52 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @archana.m.shinde I don't know how to remove the directory | 14:52 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> @sebastien.boeuf I like @laijs suggestion about creating a symlink | 14:52 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> from container dir to sandbox | 14:52 |
| gwhaley | @sebastien.boeuf: tbh, for 213, a small diagram or two might help with the architectural choices - it is hard to follow the whole flow of the chatter etc. and options | 14:53 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @sebastien.boeuf - both of those PRs are on my review list. I'll take a careful look first thing tomorrow (my time). | 14:53 |
| * gwhaley is more of a visual whiteboard scribbler - I understand that is not for everybody though | 14:54 | |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> I was harassing sebastien about this yesterday ;) | 14:54 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> yeah lol | 14:54 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> you just have to lure him to a whiteboard, which is hard sometimes, even in person :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:54 |
| gwhaley | s/lure/tie/ :-) | 14:55 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> :P | 14:55 |
| gwhaley | so, here is a touch of incentive - if we have a small arch diagram then we can start to form the arch doc that is missing from kata I believe (/cc @james.o.hunt) | 14:55 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> now I'm debating on how to draw the pictures -- I like @jose.carlos.venegas.m csv->diagram tool | 14:55 |
| gwhaley | yeah, those automated diagrams are nice, as we can check in the source and auto-generate again much nicer | 14:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Yes, that's on my mind too. Though I assume you mean kata and not jessie fraz ;) | 14:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> I understand the need for those diagrams but 213 is needed to fix openshift/k8s... | 14:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> yep - that would indeed be useful. And getting that doc together really should be a priority - we have an open issue for it. | 14:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> okay; i'm putting 1 hour on calendar to start a base one, anyway. | 14:56 |
| gwhaley | oh, is irc<->slack *still* translatin k a t a to jessie - sigh, thought we'd fixed that... | 14:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> yes. I find it enjoyable, personally. Lure her into slack :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:57 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @archana.m.shinde I have just seen the proposal about symlink. Not sure about how it'd work though | 14:57 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> re diagrams, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pic_language ftw! :slightly_smiling_face: | 14:58 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> @sebastien.boeuf right now you are creating dir under runtime/{containerid}/{sandboxid} ? | 14:58 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> oh heavens. | 14:59 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @jose.carlos.venegas.m - what did you use in the past? | 14:59 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @archana.m.shinde I am not, but okay let's say I do | 14:59 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <archana.m.shinde> @sebastien.boeuf I like to understand what your dir structure is | 15:00 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> right now, the code relies on a map with the mapping containerID->list of sandboxID | 15:00 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> first thing, we need to get rid of this map and use a tree of directory to avoid concurrent accesses | 15:01 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> and locks | 15:01 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @eric.ernst git says he used http://plantuml.com. | 15:01 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> but how does this symlink solution will work ? | 15:01 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> thanks jodh. | 15:01 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @laijs are you around ? | 15:02 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @james.o.hunt...or moving in the exact opposite direction: https://whimsical.co | 15:02 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <kata> whimsical is so dope | 15:03 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Yeah. But I only have 3 free documents left ;) | 15:03 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <kata> oh damnnnn | 15:03 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <kata> now im nervous | 15:03 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <kata> i havent kept track | 15:03 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> @eric.ernst - aargh - mine eyes! | 15:05 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> xD | 15:06 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @julio.montes - For the config / patch packaging PR, I still see "XEN" mentioned in the commit message, FYI. | 15:07 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> looks very purple and easy to use | 15:07 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <james.o.hunt> I love that quote! | 15:07 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <bergwolf> @eric.ernst, @miao.yanqiang couldn't update the network hotplug PR for the time being. Is there anyone on intel side wants to take over it? If not, I can look at it after I finish the sandbox operation APIs. | 15:09 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <julio.montes> @eric.ernst done | 15:09 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> @sebastien.boeuf are you still fixing the left golang1.10 issues or you want me to take our commit an continue? | 15:10 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> your commit* | 15:10 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @jose.carlos.venegas.m @james.o.hunt https://github.com/jodh-intel/documentation/blob/a070f18c2e2668202909c8bc3c7c92e2a4fc1df6/Release-Checklist.md looks oaky to me. | 15:10 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> Should we be detailing out the configuration of the OBS? Or, where should this go? | 15:11 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> And, are we creating an OBS package for qemu "vanilla" as well? | 15:11 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <raravena80> whimsical looks like a cooler lucidchart | 15:12 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> oops, lost jodh. I think the doc looks good enough for me right now. | 15:13 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> We can and will adjust more later... | 15:13 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> @eric.ernst agree | 15:14 |
| gwhaley | yeah, jodh had to drop and run I'm afraid | 15:14 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @jose.carlos.venegas.m not actively on it, you can fix all Go 1.10 issues :slightly_smiling_face: | 15:16 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jose.carlos.venegas.m> @sebastien.boeuf ok | 15:17 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> CRI-O PRs now officially gated by Kata CI :) | 15:19 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> take a look at https://github.com/kubernetes-incubator/cri-o/pull/1528 | 15:19 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @salvador.fuentes this is cool, thanks for taking care of this ! | 15:20 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <salvador.fuentes> yes :slightly_smiling_face: now lets take see if the job reports back as expected, but Im pretty sure it will | 15:20 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <sebastien.boeuf> @salvador.fuentes;) | 15:22 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> err, didn't really want to install java to make UML diagrams (looking @ http://plantuml.com/starting) | 15:52 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <jonolson> for sequence diagrams I am a fan of https://bramp.github.io/js-sequence-diagrams/ — that said, we have a hosted version of it internally and a plugin or our doc generator that uses it, so it mostly works out to “type text into web thingy, when picture looks right cut/paste text into actual doc” — I don’t think GitHub has similar support :S | 15:55 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> maybe i can just use the demo text box exclusively :slightly_smiling_face: | 15:56 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> hmm, wonders why they used another diagram generator to generate their..diagram :slightly_smiling_face: | 15:57 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> i see.. different diagram... | 15:58 |
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| * gwhaley requests any diagrams we make have a source format we can check in to github so others can re-create and edit, with open tools, pretty please :-) | 16:00 | |
| gwhaley | much though I love using Visio for its slickness, this is not the place :-) | 16:00 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> yup. Though the other one was very purpley and easy to use :slightly_smiling_face: | 16:00 |
| kata-dev-irc-bot | <raravena80> what about docs? do they need to be in LaTeX ? :slightly_smiling_face: | 16:04 |
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| kata-dev-irc-bot | <eric.ernst> @jonolson bramp looks pretty good (well, as good as any). Honestly, i'm not sure if we need ci/cd for the svg, so long as the pictures are reproducable and the "source" is maintained. | 16:06 |
| gwhaley | @raravena80 - heh - nowt wrong with LaTeX! But, our docs are in GithubFlavourMarkDown :-) Now we just need to figure out a nice way to make piccies | 16:06 |
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