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| priteau | mkarpiarz: I believe we have a meeting today, in 40 minutes | 13:18 |
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| mkarpiarz | Thanks, this meeting was set at 2PM in my diary. I'll fix this. | 13:21 |
| priteau | It's set in UTC so switches time when clocks change | 13:23 |
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| rafaelweingartne | hello guys | 13:53 |
| mkarpiarz | Hi, rafaelweingartne! | 13:55 |
| priteau | Hello | 14:00 |
| rafaelweingartne | #startmeeting cloudkitty | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 17 14:00:46 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rafaelweingartne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cloudkitty)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cloudkitty' | 14:00 |
| rafaelweingartne | Roll count | 14:00 |
| priteau | o/ | 14:01 |
| mkarpiarz | Hi! | 14:01 |
| jonher | o/ | 14:02 |
| rafaelweingartne | #topic Xena release | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Xena release (Meeting topic: cloudkitty)" | 14:04 | |
| rafaelweingartne | I guess that we are moving towards Xena releases. I think that it might be good to apply the agreement we had during the PTG meeting of merging things sooner than latter, and from the middle/end of the release cycle we can then focus on stabilization | 14:05 |
| rafaelweingartne | having said that, I would like to ask you guys to review some of the patches I have open, they are interesting for Xena release, I guess | 14:05 |
| rafaelweingartne | also, I have opened a specification for the reprocessing API that we also discussed in the PTG | 14:06 |
| rafaelweingartne | it would be important to get some feedback before I move on with the implementation | 14:06 |
| priteau | Agreed. If you can provide links and/or tag them as Review-Priority+1, I will allocate time for review | 14:07 |
| rafaelweingartne | sure I will tag them | 14:07 |
| rafaelweingartne | https://review.opendev.org/q/owner:rafael%2540apache.org+project:openstack/cloudkitty+status:open | 14:08 |
| priteau | Thank you | 14:09 |
| priteau | I've been a bit distracted from reviews, but for a good reason. I was working on a new cloudkitty collector | 14:09 |
| rafaelweingartne | and, this one | 14:09 |
| rafaelweingartne | https://review.opendev.org/q/owner:rafael%2540apache.org+project:openstack/cloudkitty-specs+status:open | 14:09 |
| mkarpiarz | Sure, I should be able to help with these as well. | 14:09 |
| priteau | I will try to contribute it soon | 14:09 |
| rafaelweingartne | BTW, do you guys know how to add an extra style in the pdf-docs job? | 14:11 |
| rafaelweingartne | When I run the job to build the pdf-docs in my laptop, it works | 14:11 |
| rafaelweingartne | and it works, because I added/installed one of the latex dependencies manually | 14:11 |
| rafaelweingartne | however, in the CI jobs this style does not seem to exist | 14:11 |
| priteau | Do you really need to? I am not sure people really look at pdf docs | 14:12 |
| rafaelweingartne | me neither... when I tested for instance, I only built the HTML ones | 14:13 |
| rafaelweingartne | but the CI jobs are runing the PDF build | 14:13 |
| rafaelweingartne | and this causes my specs proposal to receive a -1 from Zuul | 14:13 |
| mkarpiarz | Do we have the ability to disable PDF builds then? | 14:14 |
| priteau | I contributed the pdf-docs fix | 14:14 |
| priteau | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791624 | 14:14 |
| priteau | mkarpiarz: could you please review it? | 14:15 |
| priteau | It's an OpenStack-wide issue, the fix comes from ironic-specs | 14:15 |
| priteau | rafaelweingartne: It you rebase on top of d1803c94ef2ecb616d7bbb153eaa29bb2e51c6cd it should work | 14:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | I see | 14:17 |
| rafaelweingartne | I will do so then | 14:17 |
| rafaelweingartne | thanks for the tips | 14:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Rafael Weingartner proposed openstack/cloudkitty-specs master: Propose reprocessing API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791245 | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Rafael Weingartner proposed openstack/cloudkitty-specs master: Propose reprocessing API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791245 | 14:23 |
| rafaelweingartne | done | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cloudkitty-specs master: Update tox config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791624 | 14:25 |
| rafaelweingartne | Well, from my side those are the priorities | 14:26 |
| rafaelweingartne | do you guys have some other? | 14:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/cloudkitty-specs master: [ussuri][goal] Update contributor documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791320 | 14:26 |
| mkarpiarz | None at the moment. | 14:27 |
| priteau | As mentioned, I have written a new collector, which uses the Nova simple tenant usage API. I will need to write some tests before submitting it | 14:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | hmm | 14:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | this API is scheduled or planned to be removed | 14:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | right? | 14:28 |
| rafaelweingartne | it also only shows for how long a VM exist in the environment, and not the actual runtime | 14:29 |
| priteau | Is it planned to be removed? I've not heard about it | 14:29 |
| priteau | And yes, it has shortcomings, so it isn't a replacement for Gnocchi / Monasca / Prometheus | 14:30 |
| rafaelweingartne | well | 14:30 |
| priteau | However, it allows you to gather information about past usage data which isn't possible if you are missing metrics from the above systems | 14:30 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is what people told me when I proposed a change in the API | 14:30 |
| rafaelweingartne | to allow operators to configure the API to output more meaningful data | 14:31 |
| rafaelweingartne | priteau, exactly the same issue we had :) | 14:31 |
| rafaelweingartne | we thought about using it, but then, when we discovered that it only shows for how long a VM exists, it was not useful anymore | 14:31 |
| priteau | Do you have a link to your proposed API change? | 14:32 |
| rafaelweingartne | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/nova/+/711113 | 14:32 |
| rafaelweingartne | you can see the discussion there | 14:32 |
| priteau | Thanks | 14:33 |
| priteau | It was useful for us as we believe started and stopped instances should be billed in the same way. The main issue was shelved instances being included. | 14:35 |
| rafaelweingartne | ah, I see | 14:36 |
| rafaelweingartne | for the cases we have applied Openstack so far that is not a valid use case | 14:36 |
| rafaelweingartne | users only want to pay for actual usave of running VMs | 14:36 |
| rafaelweingartne | only volumes are billed no matter if the VM is running or not :) | 14:36 |
| priteau | Shut down instances consume the same amount of CPU / memory / disk resources as running ones ;-) | 14:37 |
| rafaelweingartne | well, they are down | 14:37 |
| rafaelweingartne | so they are not running | 14:37 |
| rafaelweingartne | I guess it depends on how one handle this situations | 14:37 |
| priteau | Yes but from a nova scheduler / placement point of view, they will still consume resources | 14:38 |
| rafaelweingartne | it depends on the perspective public cloud versus private cloud | 14:38 |
| rafaelweingartne | they are allocated, which means logically create in the system | 14:38 |
| rafaelweingartne | but not actually running in the hypervisor | 14:38 |
| priteau | Anyway, it's a small collector, not much maintenance, so I don't think it would hurt to include it | 14:39 |
| rafaelweingartne | but anyways, I just mentioned that because we tried to used this API for a DR, and in the end, it was useless for our context | 14:39 |
| rafaelweingartne | the more we aggregate the better, as long as we have a clear documentation | 14:40 |
| rafaelweingartne | which was the case in Nova | 14:40 |
| rafaelweingartne | people did not want to change this behavior of the API, but I suggested them, to at least clarify the behavior of the API | 14:40 |
| rafaelweingartne | Well, do we have some other priority for Xena? | 14:44 |
| priteau | Nothing from me | 14:45 |
| rafaelweingartne | I will open for general questions then | 14:45 |
| rafaelweingartne | #topic AOB | 14:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: cloudkitty)" | 14:45 | |
| priteau | rafaelweingartne: please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty/+/789727 (trivial) | 14:49 |
| rafaelweingartne | well, we are running of time | 14:51 |
| rafaelweingartne | and I guess that we covered most of the planned topics | 14:51 |
| rafaelweingartne | if you guys have nothing else, I will close for today | 14:51 |
| rafaelweingartne | Thank you guys for participating. Have a nice week. | 14:52 |
| rafaelweingartne | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rating component for OpenStack https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CloudKitty" | 14:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 17 14:52:13 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cloudkitty/2021/cloudkitty.2021-05-17-14.00.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cloudkitty/2021/cloudkitty.2021-05-17-14.00.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cloudkitty/2021/cloudkitty.2021-05-17-14.00.log.html | 14:52 |
| priteau | Thanks rafaelweingartne! | 14:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/cloudkitty-specs master: [ussuri][goal] Update contributor documentation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cloudkitty-specs/+/791320 | 14:54 |
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